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Immaterialism

Post by dan on Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:52 am

First topic message reminder :

Ok, here we go...... as I take a deep breath.......

Well, this post will be reserved as the topical reminder.  Hopefully the discussion will last for more that one page.

(Please keep in mind the links given in the fifth post on this thread...... http://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t313-three-in-one )

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Post by Z on Sun Jul 22, 2018 1:00 pm

One of the most amazing experiences of my life
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Post by dan on Sun Jul 22, 2018 2:42 pm

dd,

What is the big deal?  

I don’t think I have any choice here..... not in the last 41 years... not since the Sophia/John encounter.  

In 1977, came the Omega in the Prophetic tradition.  My only clue, at that point, was the anthropic principle.  I was still dealing with the big world. My gestalt switch to immaterialism and the small world did not come until after another five years of struggling with the mind/matter dichotomy, and realizing that the Omega/Eschaton would never make sense in the astronomical universe.

In retrospect, I can’t explain why I took it personally.  Was that a character defect?  Maybe.  But there has been a considerable amount of water under that bridge.  



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Re: Immaterialism

Post by Z on Sun Jul 22, 2018 2:52 pm

How about a couple big miracles ?
Just to seal the deal...
Isnt just saaaaaaaaying you are Jesus is a lil too soft-sell
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Post by dan on Sun Jul 22, 2018 2:58 pm

Well, AP,

Don’t you know I’m just a one trick pony?  My only trick will be to save the world.

My miracle will be to explain the portals..... to explain how the portals offer proof of immaterialism and the small world.

The Princess, even if she disowns me, is my personal proof, even if she is just a proxy for someone else.  There is a Queen of the Hive.  

So, until the real Jesus taps me on the shoulder, I don’t think I have much choice in the matter. Otherwise, I don’t see where the competition might come from.  Is anyone else angling for the job, this side of the loony bin?  Are we just going to shove the Prophetic Tradition into the dustbin?

The Prophetic Tradition is showing us the way.  What is that Tradition without a prophet or two?  If Sophia and John were not egging me on, they did manage to fool me.  There are worse jobs than being a clown for God.  

The only thing I can’t rationalize about the BPWH is the puny fact that I might play any role...... just a piece of darned luck..... a toss of the dice...... sorry about that.  

If it’s any job at all, it was a setup job, from the git go.

So there’s really nothing else to see, here.  We just move on......


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Dan wrote: The only thing I can’t rationalize about the BPWH is the puny fact that I might play any role...... just a piece of darned luck..... a toss of the dice...... sorry about that.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/05775132.1961.11469341?journalCode=mcha20


Luke 18:9-14 New International Version (NIV)

The Parable of the Pharisee and the Tax Collector

9 To some who were confident of their own righteousness and looked down on everyone else, Jesus told this parable: 10 “Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11 The Pharisee stood by himself and prayed: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other people—robbers, evildoers, adulterers—or even like this tax collector. 12 I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.’

13 “But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, ‘God, have mercy on me, a sinner.’

14 “I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For all those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.”


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Post by desertdweller on Sun Jul 22, 2018 7:32 pm

GSB/SSR,

Great text on justification by faith alone, apart from works. That right there is the summation of the prophetic tradition.

Dan has some interesting ideas. Some a little out there. But being a half nuts philosopher does not a Messiah make. Especially since it is a virtually uncontested fact that a physical return of Christ is one of the earliest dogmas of Christianity. Reincarnations, or another incarnation, is not part of the ball game. The consummation of the BPW by the God-man, the word made flesh is what’s on the table.
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Post by dan on Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:01 pm

Thank you, Gary,

If immaterialism is correct then maybe I can be a proxy for the Source.  

About that, there is a glass ceiling that needs to be broken for all of us.  We’ll see if I can assist.  All over us can and will assist.  

The point here, dd, is that we are all God men and God women.  That tail needs to be pinned on the donkey.  

Does this diminish Jesus’ role?  I believe that his role can only be amplified.  Would Jesus really want us to stand on this ceremony?  There is work to be done.  

That is what is on the table, dd.

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Post by Tarotted on Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:17 pm

Does perception produce structure? If the underlying force of nature is fundamentally a unifying force, maybe, then the localization of self awareness is the point. Physicality could be reduced to a generic medium, light. The force of perception could displace/distort the ordering of the machinations which produced it.

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Post by dan on Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:42 pm

Tarot,

Feel free to elaborate your thoughts.  There may well be some light.

Machinations........? An interesting choice of words.
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Post by dan on Mon Jul 23, 2018 3:29 am

Many of us are sitting on our thumbs, waiting for the Second Coming.  

We are waiting for new instructions from God.

In the meantime, we should be aware of the many similar prophecies, such as 4M/K/SoT.

It is considered blasphemous to suggest jumping any one of those guns.  

Am I being blasphemous to suggest that this may be an opportune time to consider jumping every gun, especially in the context of an impending MoAPS and an impending Tribulation, along with the apparatus of Rapture?

That is the question I am posing to you.  Am I to be condemned for including my personal context within the the global, interpersonal context?  I could just as easily be remiss for not doing so.  

Are we to hide our light under a basket?  Are we not to share the good news, sports fans?  

After all, my immediate interpersonal context appears to include said ‘apparatus’....... namely, the alleged ‘portals’.  

If someone hands me a loaded starter’s pistol, and I find myself standing on an apparent starting line, along with expectant spectators and participants..... well, what should we expect?  

Let the Marathon begin....... that’s what I say.  Or we could say...... gentle folk, it’s time start your engines.... please......

What is a body to do...... pray tell?

Here I stand..... I could do none other.  My thesis is nailed to the door...... or is it nailed to the Portal?  Perhaps we should consult with the Queen bee.  

Or, I simply pose as a visionary with a vision...... a rather comprehensive and coherent one...... if I may say so, myself.  Or, dare we say, a vision of biblical proportions?  

Some folks want an inclusive vision.... others want an exclusive vision.  If you’re one of the later folks...... well, I could tell the story about the guy in the flood.......

There’s this guy, a god fearing Christian, living on an island in a river.  It starts raining, and the river starts flooding.  A person paddling a canoe comes by and asks if he would like a ride over to the to the river bank.  No thanks, he said, the Lord will protect me.  It keeps on a rainin’, and the river keeps on a risin’.  Now our god fearing Christian is up on the roof.  A person in a motor boat comes by, and motions him to hop in.  No thanks, says our intrepid believer, God has promised to save me.  Well, the poor guy drowns.  He gets up to heaven and sees God sitting on his throne....... why didn’t you come to save me, our guy asks.....?  I think you know the rest of the story.......

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Re: Immaterialism

Post by Tarotted on Mon Jul 23, 2018 8:42 am

[Please save space. Not necessary to post Dan's long post which is the one before this one. It's already assumed that you are commenting on his post. Thanks, 99]

Oh, this not my type of (Edit:) thread.

Edit:

There is a necessary reversal of the analytic process to grasp, in a relatively simple manner, the impetus of "God" already present.


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Post by 99 on Mon Jul 23, 2018 8:50 am

My policy is to "live each day like it's your last". I've also conditioned myself to live fully in the moment and it took me many years to get to that point because being a type A personality, I spent most of my life running around like a chicken with its head cut off trying to make time run AHEAD of everyone else to be there first and SUCCEED. I was very goal oriented. That's how I was brought up but it wasn't until years later that I realized how much I was missing because I never stopped to smell the flowers.
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Post by 99 on Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:06 am

Tarotted, if you think this isn't the thread for you, you can always start up a new thread somewhere else in this forum.... and I hope you do! Smile

Dan doesn't just stay here in his blog. He comments in other threads too sometimes.
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Material or immaterial?

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/video/viral/chinese-citizens-film-ufos-over-chongqing-city/vi-BBKUDKL?ocid=se


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Post by hobbit on Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:18 am

Dan,

Does any of this ring any bells relative to the princess?




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Post by 99 on Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:20 am

Gary wrote:Material or immaterial?

That's a good one!

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Post by whoknows on Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:23 am

Dan
this side of the loony bin?

LOL love it. So what side would that be Dan?  

Lot of seeming goin on here and not much being, it seems.

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http://www.insidematterstalk.com/are-you-an-indigo-reclaim-your-powers/lesson-1-reclaiming-your-indigo-power/


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Post by dan on Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:27 am

wk,

Now that you mention it....... whoknows ?


The Princess brings to my attention ‘chicken pizza’........

Chicken pizza is also known as Chichen Itza.  

Chichen Itza is the home to the feathered serpent or Quetzalcoatl/Kukulkan.  

I’ll tell you who Quetzalcoatl is.......

Firstly, it represents the Milky Way...... the river of souls.  It also represents the Creator.  

In my estimation, Quetzalcoatl is the Ouroboros.... the CTC of BPWH fame.  It’s the Alpha and Omega, also known as the Chi Rho/Cairo, as a matter of fact.

The Ouroboros is the tail eating serpent...... also the Milky Way. Ouranos/Uranos refers to the starry sky and heaven.


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Is there a chance the Ouroboros will ever disconnect? Just wondering.

And what would happen if it ever did that?
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MATERIAL...
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It's both. The immaterial can still manifest paraphysically at various densities.

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Post by hobbit on Mon Jul 23, 2018 10:19 am

IMHO.

Quetzalcoatl is a representation of how consciousness operates .
Centripetal and centrifugal spiral points that ALWAYS reside along side of each other ALWAYS spin in opposite directions, this creates detectable serpent like routes that have smaller spiral routes feeding in/out of them along the route.


At larger scale this will be how galaxies interact.

At the point locations a reversal occurs as consciousness spins in the opposite direction in/out of the point location.

Compression leads to heat, and that's where I consider this planet is nearing, then a reversal will occur.

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Post by dan on Mon Jul 23, 2018 10:29 am

hobbit,

Please, this is not an astronomy class.  

On this thread, the cosmos is just God’s cosmetic.

Here, we are not cosmologists.  We are cosmeticians.  

Got that, hobbit?  

Good.  


99,

Is there a chance the Ouroboros will ever disconnect......?

It’s already/eternally ‘disconnected’.  

We are the Connectors/closers of the CTC.  

I guess that makes me the discloser of the Closure.  

The j guy, the alpha and omega, is the Closer personified.  

Our Rapture is the spark that closes the air gap in the CTC.  

We ‘reset’ the Earth to its primordial state.  We maintain the continuity across the air/spark gap.  


Please keep in mind, though, that we’re not talking about any Eternal Return, here.......

This is the best possible Singular Circuit.  Every present moment is the Eternal Shining Presence (ESP).  This is what smelly was trying to tell us. He just couldn’t or wouldn’t let the words out.  He still has stuff bottled up.  



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Interesting... thanks Dan! (also for extrapolating more on that)


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