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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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Immaterialism 3

Post by dan on Fri Nov 09, 2018 12:09 pm

[The original topic reminder post http://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t320-immaterialism
should be substituted here... ]
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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by dan on Fri Nov 09, 2018 12:19 pm

[this is a repeat of my earlier post...... http://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t336p100-immaterialism-2 ]

smelly,

Somehow, I have managed to almost never feel sorry for the Foot. I guess I don’t feel sorry for anyone. As you say, life is a gift. Some say that some lives are wasted. I don’t think that’s possible. Every single life is the best possible life, unto itself...... in its own cosmic context.

You can have one grain of sand on a ten mile beach, and that grain of sand is in the right place, at the right moment.


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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by dan on Fri Nov 09, 2018 12:22 pm

[this is smelly’s last post on the previous thread..... http://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t336p100-immaterialism-2 ]

Every life for me is fundamental also, as it is.

I agree with you that there are no mistakes.

The only seeming mistake is in our thinking, but then, maybe there are no mistakes.

We only think their thinking in error in comparison to ours.

Some of us think we are talking directly to our Self and assume this must be the best way to be Wink

We can't do that can we.

There must be the best amount of people doing so.

We can't judge anyone else then.
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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by dan on Fri Nov 09, 2018 12:28 pm

smelly,

Is it possible to believe anything else?

I’m going to be on the phone for a bit, to discuss Mormon eschatology and the keys of Enoch.
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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by hobbit on Fri Nov 09, 2018 1:08 pm

Dan,

A "key" is a device to open a lock.

A key is useless without the lock.

Thoth held the key in His open hand.

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Post by smelly on Fri Nov 09, 2018 1:25 pm

True dat hairy hobbitz.

“The fish trap exists because of the fish. Once you've gotten the fish you can forget the trap. The rabbit snare exists because of the rabbit. Once you've gotten the rabbit, you can forget the snare. Words exist because of meaning. Once you've gotten the meaning, you can forget the words. Where can I find a man who has forgotten words so I can talk with him?”

—Zhuangzi, Chuang Tsu: Inner Chapters

Thoth myth must have been the myth of Lucifer, the bringer of Light.

If my old Christian friends could hear me now, they cursed me into the deepest darkest hell for one reason, I opened my mind and heart.

That’s ironic and a nice cherry.

I did nothing to them but say I let my beliefs go for direct experience with no judgement, then I was the Devil.

They are brainwashed best I can tell.

Then my old non-Christian friends started liking me, muppet politics are too fucking funny.

Dan barely gave me a place to rest, but he hasn’t totally cursed me to Hell yet.

Dan is scary smart and he can do some Magick too.

My favorite part of Dan is hearing his wife yell at him.

Bahahaha

I love his wife yelling at him more than seeing Baphomet even Wink

I’ve read this guys books on Daimons and magic.

He’s something else.



Makes me think of hobbit.

Good fun writer, he hides in the open.

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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by Aaron on Fri Nov 09, 2018 3:56 pm

All your base are belong to us.



Nothing escapes a black hole.

Muahahaha!

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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by Foot Mann on Fri Nov 09, 2018 4:03 pm

Greatest extinction phase in the history of the planet. One life form that destroys all others. Yet several of you defend that Destructive Life Form. Perhaps it is a characteristic of the species. There is only one who is perfect. Now the HAND emerges, raised up by the Discloser & Disruptor. The DNA of the DLF in his blood, consumed by the many who share his bed. They are his children. They exist in symbiosis with the DLF. By the Blackness of Light they Shine Bright, yet they remain out of sight. The Disruptor must recover, take the hand of the HAND, and shake off his children. Only then he may walk with the WCM to the hill in the dessert.
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Post by dan on Fri Nov 09, 2018 4:06 pm

We had our little discussion on Mormon and Enochian cosmology....... 

I’d say that I was pretty well sandbagged by Enoch........


Footmann is referring to the bugs who may shared my bed, the eggs of which may be spotted with UV light. The perfect one is Aliyah..... her DNA is alleged to contain no (recent?) viral DNA.  

The HAND....... that emerges.......?  

It might be the hand of the Princess....... but he refers to the ‘hand of the HAND’. I’m not making sense of that.



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Post by smelly on Fri Nov 09, 2018 4:27 pm

I have no idea what Foot is on about, he is way over complicating this IMHO and coming off very hierarchical and authoritative, which is a sign he doesn't know what the fuck he is talking about, also IMHO.

Hardly anyone knows WTF or why they are saying or doing things actually Wink

The powerful spirits of the air are playing their creators like puppets.

I have also been studying Enoch and Cain synchronistically.

There is the big element of this BECOMING beyond words and language.

Don't see many poet warriors around here, oh yah, thats my area Wink

Check out American Gods by Gaimon if you want to a clue to what really is happening Wink

They fooled us real good.

Fun game.

"The New Gods seek to parley with Wednesday, but murder him at the meeting. This act galvanizes the Old Gods and they rally to face their enemies in battle at Rock City. Shadow is bound by his contract with Wednesday to hold his vigil by re-enacting Odin's time hanging from a "World Tree" while pierced by a spear. He is visited by Horus, who is mad from living too long as a hawk. Shadow dies and visits the land of the dead, where he is judged by Anubis. Shadow learns that he is Wednesday's son, conceived as part of the deity's plans. During this time Mr. Town arrives at the World Tree, ordered by Mr. World to cut a branch from the World Tree.

Horus finds Easter and convinces her to bring Shadow back to life. Shadow realizes Mr. World is actually Low-key (Loki) Lyesmith and that Odin and Loki have been working a "two-man con". They orchestrated Shadow's birth, his meeting of Loki in disguise in prison, and Laura's death. Loki had arranged for Odin's murder so that the battle between the New and Old Gods would serve as a sacrifice to Odin, restoring his power, while Loki would feed on the chaos of the battle."

Let's go New Gods, I'm comin for ya.

Are you all ready to be judged by Anubis?! ABR, Always Be Ready if you don't know what to do, always be ready to die.
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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by Aaron on Fri Nov 09, 2018 4:37 pm

I don't agree with everything he says in this video, but for the most part I think he is on point.



The planet isn't fucked, we are, at least in our current human form.

Pack your shit folks.

Wink


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Post by dan on Fri Nov 09, 2018 4:44 pm

smelly,

I’m hopeful that the Foot is trying to be supportive.  But this, of course, may be just another false flag operation.  

I attempt to roll with that punch by raising the flag of the Antichrist.
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Back to Enochian cosmology.......

I claimed to be smarter than Enoch...... that got the fur flying.....

How dare I......?  

They didn’t quite understand that I put this hypothesis forward as a friendly challenge...... as a way to keep them on their toes..... that’s all.

I need to put that sort of challenge earlier in the conversation, so that there is sufficient time ameliorate it....... to pose it as rhetorical strategem....... rather than a bald faced assertion.

But the niceties are too easily lost in the heat of the battle.



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Post by smelly on Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:07 pm

I’m smarter than all of you who have ever been, so...

I still poop in a toilet.

I raise my own flag to my own standard.

I need no other to carry anything for me and I certainly don’t carry anyone else’s flag.

I am not an idolator.

Most worship idols.

There isn’t anything to do but stand up and look those scary mother fuckers straight in the eye or whatever they see from.

Fierce, isn’t he, bahahaha.

Cerberus is my lap dog.

Anubis is my boy.

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Post by dan on Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:14 pm

smelly,

Are you going to put Marissa up against Aliyah?  

I don’t think Marissa would wish to throw her hat in that ring........ but feel free to ask.

Actually it would be Kashmir against Marissa. I would advise against it. It would be terribly lopsided.


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Post by Aaron on Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:15 pm

Hmmm.....

I could be wrong....

Maybe the Queen Bee can save the world in human form....

It doesn't matter.

All that we have is the here and now.
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Post by dan on Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:21 pm

Ack,

The Royals and I claim to have a tag team.  

Let’s have smelly and and Aliyah have a fight.  

Who would your money be on?

Nolo contendere.........?  I think so.  

Pick on someone your own size, smelly....... maybe the foot, but Princess....... you might want to reconsider.

Don’t you agree, Ack?



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Post by smelly on Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:37 pm

My temple is pure and strong.

I’ll face any eye to eye.

I speak for no one.

And I have no need to fight any fight.

So I always win because I’m ready.

I’m always ready here now.

It isn’t about power it’s about focus and wholeness.

I can face anything in Creation.

Whomever I face better know the same or they will dissolve as a hollow person with no strength.

I have gathered all my strength and focus here, now.

Bring all pretenders and I’ll show them what they really are Wink

I am the Eternal Flame moth boy.

Protection?

Get some.

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Post by Aaron on Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:45 pm

How to you pit the Tao against the Tao?

It doesn't make any sense.





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Post by dan on Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:50 pm

Well, smelly, you’ll have trouble facing the truth, simply because you don’t believe it exists.  

How can you face something nonexistent?  

That’s not so easy.


Aaron,

Tao v the Tao......... not really.

It’s Jesus vs the Tao.



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Post by Aaron on Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:51 pm

The Tao is the truth Dan.

Smelly is the truth and so is The Princess.
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Post by Aaron on Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:53 pm

A Zen buddhist priest was attending a dinner party one evening. The guests were all seated on the floor around a low rectangular table. On the table in front of each guest was a small hibachi grill filled with hot coals. The diners were cooking their own servings of meat and vegetables, which they took from various bowls on the table.

Several geishas were serving the guests. The priest noticed that one of the geishas conducted herself as if she might have had some zen training.
He decided to test her, so he called her over.

The geisha knelt across the table from the priest and bowed. The priest bowed in return, and said: "I would like to give you a gift." Using his chopsticks, he reached into the hibachi, picked up a hot coal, and offered it to the geisha.

She hesitated for a moment, then finally pulled the sleeves of her kimono down over her hands. She grabbed the coal, ran into the kitchen, and dropped it into a pan of water. Her hands were not hurt, but the beautiful kimono gown was ruined.

The geisha went back to the table and knelt across from the priest. She bowed to the priest. He bowed in return. Then she said: "I would like to give you a gift too."

"I would be honored," the priest replied.

She picked up a pair of chopsticks, removed a hot coal from the priest's grill, and offered it to him. The priest reached into his robe and took out a cigarette.

As he leaned forward to light his smoke he said, "Thank you. That is exactly what I wanted."
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Post by dan on Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:53 pm

The truth must be personified.

Jesus personified the truth.

Big difference.......
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Post by smelly on Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:54 pm

I have given you all the clues.

It takes a swagger moth boy.

Be cool fool.

If you ain’t got that grin, sit down when the divine child is around and listen and watch.

Don’t fear death or any princess.

They fear the heat, believe that.

Cocky?!

Oh yah, I can be and should be!

Dramatic?

Oh yah, the more drama the better.

Confused?

About no thing.

I have planted many seeds.

My Garden is going to grow.


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Re: Immaterialism 3

Post by Aaron on Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:55 pm

Jesus said, "I am the Way, the Truth and the Light".

The Tao is the way the truth and the light.
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Re: Immaterialism 3

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The Princess has Swagger and a Grin like you ain't never seen before muppet.

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