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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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Immaterialism

Post by dan on Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:52 am

First topic message reminder :

Ok, here we go...... as I take a deep breath.......

Well, this post will be reserved as the topical reminder.  Hopefully the discussion will last for more that one page.

(Please keep in mind the links given in the fifth post on this thread...... http://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t313-three-in-one )

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Re: Immaterialism

Post by dan on Thu Sep 06, 2018 9:57 am

99,

Lodestar.......?  That sounds like an interesting job description.  I think I’ll volunteer....... pick me.... pick me.

The knife edge is called a critical point. The universe, according to the Anthropic Principle, exists at a critical point with respect to life.

Individual cells maintain themselves, in us, at a critical temperature.... 98.6.

Life/history is the high wire act we perform between the Alpha and Omega. We are totally vulnerable, but we make it, all the way to the End. Our circus act is rigged. We are not going to fall. The Princess came to save us, just in time...... to help us open up the portals. They are our belance bar.



(cont......)


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Re: Immaterialism

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Re: Immaterialism

Post by whoknows on Thu Sep 06, 2018 10:11 am

LOL smelly now you just be silly. if that's the direction we're goin to go, pirat  Dan's gonna get made at us again.

BTW guys this is still a discussion about beliefs or has something happened while I was away? Not that we're not pretty much saying the same thing anyway. I was mostly just asking for clarification... LOL got more than I bargained for but then that's always the case here at OMF.

That was just a cautionary note there. Time to turn people on not off!



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Re: Immaterialism

Post by ParanoidFactoid on Thu Sep 06, 2018 10:30 am

dan wrote:Yes, smelly, we need not be afraid to open the portals.  The good will come with the bad.

(cont......)

If my experiences with OBs are any indication (and I'm not saying they are), there's a lot of stuff out there we should be cautious about. It's not all Candyland on the astral plane.
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Re: Immaterialism

Post by 99 on Thu Sep 06, 2018 10:32 am

Ok, Dan is our LODESTAR and I'm fine with that!

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Post by whoknows on Thu Sep 06, 2018 10:38 am

99 wrote:Ok, Dan is our LODESTAR and I'm fine with that!


Sorry the concept to me is archaic as the word.

I am interested in everything people have to say from on extent to another but I follow no one. I have my own personal experiential filters that guide.
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Re: Immaterialism

Post by ParanoidFactoid on Thu Sep 06, 2018 10:41 am

Course Catalog wrote:PF - They really twisted themselves into pretzels to get TARDIS as an acronym.  Doesn't seem like time well spent.  

Have you ever spent time in a theoretical physics lab? These guys spend all day and most of the night scribbling nonsense on slate blackboards. If they were normal - out drinking and getting laid - we'd still be stuck with horse and buggy to get around. They take what weird fun they can get. We should be thankful it's not more nerd kitsch.
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Re: Immaterialism

Post by dan on Thu Sep 06, 2018 10:55 am

wk,

Turn people on.....?

Yes and no.  Disclosure is designed to be boring.  If people were turned on, we would wake too many sleeping dogs.  We are at a critical point of critical points.  We are at the point of the hundredth monkey.  You would not wish that monkeyship on a dog.  

Do any have free will, here?  We are free to come and go.  We tell ourselves that, and we believe it.  But we all have a rendezvous with the Truth, if Truth there be.  

Trust and truth amount to the same thing.  


Lodestar.......?  Well, I was thinking more along the lines of lodestone...... a piece of magnetic stone that can serve as a compass, when floating in water.  

You use a lodestone to steer by..... to maintain your course by..... not to point your way.  You choose your own way, but now you know which way you are going.  


(cont.....)


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Re: Immaterialism

Post by whoknows on Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:08 am

Dan wrote:Trust and truth amount to the same thing.

Mmm No. some peoples truth i don't trust at all!

Dan wrote: But we all have a rendezvous with the Truth, if Truth there be.

Truth is we really don't have much of a clue.. No, no that's not being fair. Truth yes but truth can at this point in our awareness is pretty malleable.

Dan wrote:Yes and no. Disclosure is designed to be boring. If people were turned on, we wake too many sleeping dogs. We are at a critical point of critical points. We are at the point of the hundredth monkey. You would not wish that monkeyship on a dog.

LOL It at least has to be shinny enough to catch the eye of the monkey or doggy ( can we say awwww) even if it rapidly loses interest. dang where is my monkey emoji...

So anyway, you don't want the other monkey's to know they can wash their sweet potato in the stream? http://www.worldtrans.org/pos/monkey.html


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Re: Immaterialism

Post by ParanoidFactoid on Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:29 am

Speaking of nerd kitsch...

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Re: Immaterialism

Post by dan on Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:35 am

wk,

I’m simply claiming that there is a magnetic pole.  

It is in each of us, to one degree or another.  Each of us also has our oun lodestone..... our own scrying tool, our own dowsing rod.

The magnetic pole is our Source.   We come from it and go back to it.  Every path leads to and from Rome, but each of us is on a different path.  

Otherwise we are atoms swerving in the void.  I don’t think so.

Two things held Kant in awe..... the starry sky above, and the moral sense within. That’s our compass. That’s all.

Some say that our moral compass evolved at random. Others point to teleology and a Telos. I’m a Telos person. It makes more sense.


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Re: Immaterialism

Post by smelly on Thu Sep 06, 2018 12:10 pm

Some dowsing rods are better than others, it’s a matter of taste Wink

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Re: Immaterialism

Post by whoknows on Thu Sep 06, 2018 12:10 pm

I can grok Telos.

Just see no dissolving back into the river thing happenin.

Multiple personality disorder? No, and I don't see this as a morality story either. just a learning curve. A very steep one.

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Re: Immaterialism

Post by cwallatruth on Thu Sep 06, 2018 2:07 pm

Dan,
What would the BPWH say about eating meat and/or how we treat livestock?
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Post by Course Catalog on Thu Sep 06, 2018 2:53 pm

Dan - What is AP talking to Steven Greer about?
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Post by dan on Thu Sep 06, 2018 3:25 pm

cw,

The BPWH prescribes only love.  

It doesn’t prescribe how to achieve that end.  In fact, cw, the BPWH does not even prescribe love.  

The BPWH is simply a prophetic system.  It has no Commandments.  

The impact upon us will be the better understanding of our existential situation.  

Will we be able to get rid of militaries and police forces?  Will criminality and hatred vanish from our lives?  

I was about to say that this is the ultimate goal, but that would be inaccurate.  

There are no goals, in the BPWH.  There is teleology.  We are a chrysalis, from whence the monadic butterfly will emerge.  Each of us will contribute to that emergence....... not by individual deliberation, but by individual spontaneous acts of love...... through our creative imaginations....... in our imagination lies our freedom.  

Our actions may reflect our imagination, but not in a cause and effect sort of way.  


cc,

I don’t know what AP will talk to Steve about. I gave him Steve’s phone number.  We’ll have to see what happens.  

AP was interviewed by Kerry C, today, again.  He was trying to defend me relative to the Chris Bledsoe incident..... speaking of deontology and the BPWH...... an interesting case study, to put it mildly.



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Re: Immaterialism

Post by Earthling on Thu Sep 06, 2018 4:57 pm

cwallatruth wrote:Dan,
What would the BPWH say about eating meat and/or how we treat livestock?

I believe we are given animals as a food source, and therefore are not guilty of animal cruelty unless we are the cruel offenders.

In this BPW the animals will have there day in court, and that day may not be today but it will come, as will all good things in the BPW.


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Re: Immaterialism

Post by ParanoidFactoid on Thu Sep 06, 2018 4:57 pm

Dan,

I think I know why those supposed UFO lifting 'tractor beams' are radiant blue. Care to hear my speculation?
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Post by smelly on Thu Sep 06, 2018 9:23 pm

Holy shitake mushrooms Batman!!!

I went to post and wasn’t watching what I was typing and the word ‘Evil’ had been automatically typed.

OK Evil, what’s your favorite sandwich?



Dan, the universe gave me the loudest message I ever received tonight.

You are going to die...
Enjoy every sandwich!

Peace Warren...

Hobbit, look what the inflow and outflow showed me.

Kind what you said

https://phys.org/news/2018-09-hidden-prime-crystal-like-materials.html

Respect.

APretender ain’t got shit on the hobbit.

It’s all connected Dan, please continue...
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Re: Immaterialism

Post by Reptile on Fri Sep 07, 2018 12:32 am

Is this where the "Illuminati" come to have their little group therapy sessions?

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Re: Immaterialism

Post by hobbit on Fri Sep 07, 2018 1:12 am

The Keeper Of The Laws wrote:Is this where the "Illuminati" come to have their little group therapy sessions?


Howdo?
Is that a selfie of You?


Illuminate.....
I like that word.


Shine on You crazy diamond.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWGE9Gi0bB0






Imagine the crystal numbers refracting back the illumination in just one direction??


Chitin.



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Post by Reptile on Fri Sep 07, 2018 1:23 am

I suppose in a manner of speaking my little friend but baby steps though. I'm just here for the show, got my front row seat, the popcorn, everything I need. Wouldn't miss this tale for The Best Possible World...
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Re: Immaterialism

Post by ParanoidFactoid on Fri Sep 07, 2018 1:56 am

The Keeper Of The Laws wrote:

You've already taken the local crazy bath. You'll fit right in.



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