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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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Immaterialism

Post by dan on Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:52 am

First topic message reminder :

Ok, here we go...... as I take a deep breath.......

Well, this post will be reserved as the topical reminder.  Hopefully the discussion will last for more that one page.

(Please keep in mind the links given in the fifth post on this thread...... http://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t313-three-in-one )

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Post by 99 on Fri Sep 07, 2018 9:53 am

Dan, do you mean gumshoe as in a "private dick"? I totally agree!
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Post by dan on Fri Sep 07, 2018 9:54 am

We’re trying to be nice to buddy. He’s seen his share of hard times.

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Re: Immaterialism

Post by whoknows on Fri Sep 07, 2018 9:57 am

smelly wrote:I think PK is AP.

Hmmmm.

What does Truth feeeeeel like?

Well fellers and gals, the Dude don’t know about any high falutin philosophy.

For the Dude, life needs no explanation.

The phonomena come to play, are you having fun?

Have you become a Steppenwolf?

Your work is not done until you find the ‘grin’.

This is the gut speaking Dan refers to.

The gut is where it is all really happening.

The Dude don’t know about no Illuminati, he just wants his rug back man and White Russian thank you very much.

Put the Dude in any room and it will be a room with a Dude.

Get it, bahahaha.

Here is an experience, lose yourself in the experience.

Go get lost, that’s how to walk backwards into the deep dark wood.

All together now...let’s hum a few bars together.

The secret is to live, eat and breathe the music.




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Re: Immaterialism

Post by dan on Fri Sep 07, 2018 9:58 am

Remember the rules, wk.

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Re: Immaterialism

Post by whoknows on Fri Sep 07, 2018 10:07 am

Nothing but naked derision. How does that jive with your calls for love?

Where's the Love I ask you... You can't answer so many things because you don't know.

Good luck Dan and fare the well.

I'm a born anti-authoritarian. oh well.

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Re: Immaterialism

Post by smelly on Fri Sep 07, 2018 10:15 am

You all want to have an experience, well, guess what?!

You are the experience.

You are already here having one.

Enjoy.

Do make the most of it and turn the lights off when you’re done.

We need to turn the volume all the way up for those who can communicate with music Dan like wk.

He is a true Dude in Blue.

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Re: Immaterialism

Post by whoknows on Fri Sep 07, 2018 10:26 am

Control like power only corrupts when people think they hold it.
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Re: Immaterialism

Post by Earthling on Fri Sep 07, 2018 10:33 am

dan wrote:Pk,

I’m glad to have such a big fan on board.  

What can we do for you......?



Quite a bit happened between then and now.  Long story.  Very hard to summarize, which is part of the point.  

I can say all I want on the forum, and no one will be the wiser, except for those who have been briefed.

Buddy, for instance, thinks he’s really in the know, but he has no clue.


(cont.......)

I haven't a clue either. Just bits and pieces over an extended period of time, but the history is right here and I am hitting the forum as you did the physics books.

The Princess and I have had some discussions over the past 6 months, and the main reason for this is because I was tired of the drama class actors that tend to muddy up the waters here. I reached out to the Princess and she took me under her wing, not cluing me into much except acceptance.

So I cant help but feel like the Princess has blessed me with a bit of knowledge that was intended to keep me curious about the most intelligent source of information I have come to discover over the past couple years regarding the BPWH and disclosure. I feel I am set on the path that I need to be on at the exact time I need to be there.

I hope that I can keep up this time, without becoming discouraged. The truth is not that others were turning me away so much but that I was not ready at that time to engage in this forum activity. Heck, I was still experiencing my own personal portals, no where near time for me to try and comprehend interpersonal portals.

I came to find out that the answers are not with Tom Delonge or even Steven Greer but with Dan himself and his close minded, yet open minded to others, hypotheses. Half of what I read here again makes me feel like Dan in his physics class, yet like Dan, I was too also led to the Princess.

I'm not part of the intellectual society and even though I have a degree in philosophy I and not well versed in the practice. Dan, you can also say some brilliant things in a very easy to understand way, it's the references and acronyms that keep me busy, to tell you the truth. Half my time trying to catch up is finding out what the hell these all stand for. Bare with me please and try not to get too annoyed if I ask stupid questions.

I'll try to contribute but I will do so in a not so distinguished way if there are no objections. The not-so-intelligent people of the world should not be denied the privilege of this forum. I know Dan would agree. Coherence is something that comes from the heart, and I continue to find this in Dan and the Princess.

One thing I have a lot of is real life experience and hardships conquered. I am a poor man. And a generous man. I suppose this gets me in the gates then?... even if I breath through my mouth while staring at them.

So please open your arms to a poor layman and I will do the same.
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Post by smelly on Fri Sep 07, 2018 10:43 am

Earthling, you are here having a life, congrats.

You are as qualified as any of us to share your experience of being.

But not wk, he should shut up, bahahaha.

I was asked, you, you there, will you throw yourself into the breach?

You will surely die.

Yes, with no thought, I threw myself into the breach and sailed across the Abyss of my soul.

To conquer your fear is all that is required to truly die and thus truly live.

There is a difference.

You are on one side of the Abyss or the other.

I can smell the fear of the pretender.

Fear has no place in eternity.

You all do the math muppets.

APretender, Disclosure isn’t on video or in secret papers.

You and grant are transparent.

I’m enjoying the show.
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Post by dan on Fri Sep 07, 2018 1:10 pm

Currently, I’m on the phone, mixing it up with AP, the Princess, Earthling, Steve and Joe.  

I’m not sure whether it is a circus or a rodeo, nor who is riding whom.

Would anyone else like to join?
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Post by smelly on Fri Sep 07, 2018 1:36 pm

No need, nothing to say.

I leave it all on the field.
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Post by dan on Fri Sep 07, 2018 1:40 pm

Here I am, sitting in the Goucher college library, waiting for the phone to ring.......

Which lucky person will be the first to call?  

443799 seven two oh one........

What should the prize be.......?  Instant disclosure?

But are you sure you want Disclosure?


4:50(gmt-3)........

And, please, please, don’t all call at once.......


(cont........)
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Post by Earthling on Fri Sep 07, 2018 2:07 pm

Dan,

As Joe once said to his visitor, when asked why he should have the opportunity to travel in space, and he replied, "Because I am willing to die for it." That's one thing i would agree upon. Are you offering this opportunity? Maybe that's the lure you need.

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Post by smelly on Fri Sep 07, 2018 2:12 pm

Maybe just sit there Dan and enjoy the silence.

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Post by hobbit on Sat Sep 08, 2018 12:43 am

smelly wrote:Maybe just sit there Dan and enjoy the silence.
https://www.facebook.com/physicsdashastronomy/photos/a.600209953514028/1002933833241636/?type=3&theater

Under a tree, hope this one doesn't produce apples, it sure would knock some sense into anyone it hit ( newton)

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This is fucking stupid

Post by Reptile on Sat Sep 08, 2018 12:57 am

Hey fam, I'd love to play but I guess I have to wait a week! Open Minds is the worst why! do I have to wait a week to post YouTube Songs halp "Illuminati", halp!?!?!?
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Post by smelly on Sat Sep 08, 2018 1:06 am

A bit of dense writing about the Correspondence and Coherence theory of Truth and it’s relation to Aristotle and Zen I came across synchronistically.

Consider it or not, help youself you can wrestling with koans and such, but do not lose touch with persons.

Warren Zevon came to me. He died 9/7. I didn’t know that Until 9/7.

That’s a big clue.

Things happen when they should.

It all is happening as it should.

But are we?

The Cosmos constantly authenticates itself.

http://www.thezensite.com/ZenEssays/Philosophical/Truth_and_Zen.html

If we don’t argue about what we should think about, Dan and I can coexist Wink

For I cannot and never will deny my experience as the pureest way of knowing and authenticating my experience.

You don’t need to know all this really, but you are being led to it to learn to judge falseness.

You are here on OMF to learn something so important, the world hangs on it.

What is true and what is false.

You can find weapons here to attack falseness.

You are ultimately your own authentication, it can hurt the head.

Some false here have no idea they are because they lack the context and the delusion exists within them.

The world is true as it is.

You must wrestle with it.

Surely you must.

Are the UTs then personal or impersonal, true or false?

My head hurts, but my heart says, BOTH.

The question is how clear is your mirror, things happen, can you roll with it and flow?

Something has shifted...did you notice and feel it?

Bahahaha



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Re: Immaterialism

Post by Reptile on Sat Sep 08, 2018 1:23 am

Do you? It could be me, just me before yesterday. But if I really have to wait 7 days, well expect me like a bad f-ing hangover! There's that smelly ol goat! And thanks for noticing me Danpei! Unless this stupid restriction on YT for a week is real? Well between now and Sept15, i can't play ????????????so sad... Unless of course the rest of you know a different day to play?

Bad rules not like any Laws!

Still any help is appreciated to use this non user friendly little forum!
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*Danpai
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Post by dan on Sat Sep 08, 2018 7:27 am

smelly, what’s going on with KoL, pray tell.....?

I was on the phone with Joe F for nearly six hours yesterday.  Bottom line, Joe will be the first front person for Disclosure.   He’s got the hardware, he’s got the connections, he’s got the films lined up.

But I warned that it was going to be big world v small world.  

On the downside, debbie has left home, temporarily, I hope, but she did take her phone charger.  Her complaint is that I’m going crazy..... again.  Anybody who talks to Joe for six hours must be crazy.  I only went through one bottle of wine and one bag of potato chips.  I have a call into the Princess to help me get debbie back.  

I do recommend that you peruse some of Joe’s many web sites...... particularly manyonecentral dot org.  He has trailers for some of his feature length, HD films.  Some are not unlike Steve’s.  

And I hope to be going to jail next week, if Ramieka at Goucher has anything to say about it.  They are still celebrating the graduation of their first student from the program, last June.  He now has his Goucher diploma...... to add to his resume.  I’ll be teaching physics and metaphysics.  I keep trying to go to jail.  Maybe I’ll finally succeed.  

The real winner of yesterday’s call-in contest was...... of course, the Princess, which is slightly ironic because the prize was supposed to be instant Disclosure.  Was I bringing coals to Newcastle?  

Everyone who did call got the same booby prize....... instant Disclosure.   The reason why we haven’t had Disclosure is because it’s a three-fer...... a poison pill, a can of worms and a hot potato.   After we get past all of that, it’s the best possible world...... after.....

I was speaking mainly with David and Ted...... that’s Earthling and nunia.   We talked about the clips, which were the very deniable hot potato/can of worms.

Then it’s onward and upward......


Back to the small world........

Yes, I told Joe that he would be the first one out of the blocks, but amongst us disclosers, it was going to five against one.  I do believe that Kevin, Ron, Aliyah and Kashmir are on the side of the small world, but I still have my fingers crossed.  Kevin is writing a report on Joe’s project for me, next week.  


(cont.........)

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Post by ParanoidFactoid on Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:41 am

dan wrote:

I was on the phone with Joe F for nearly six hours yesterday.  Bottom line, Joe will be the first front person for Disclosure.   He’s got the hardware, he’s got the connections, he’s got the films lined up.

Will there be anything written and submitted for peer review about this device?



But I warned that it was going to be big world v small world.  

On the downside, debbie has left home, temporarily, I hope, but she did take her phone charger.  Her complaint is that I’m going crazy..... again.  Anybody who talks to Joe for six hours must be crazy.  I only went through one bottle of wine and one bag of potato chips.  I have a call into the Princess to help me get debbie back.  

I'm sincerely sorry for your personal troubles. I hope it works out.


And I hope to be going to jail next week, if Ramieka at Goucher has anything to say about it.  They are still celebrating the graduation of their first student from the program, last June.  He now has his Goucher diploma...... to add to his resume.  I’ll be teaching physics and metaphysics.  I keep trying to go to jail.  Maybe I’ll finally succeed.

Good luck with your class.
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Re: Immaterialism

Post by Reptile on Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:41 am

Dan I'm trying to figure that out myself, I don't think that smelly old goat knows either though I think I'm stressing myself out too much, I better just take a deep breath and relax though it's difficult. I suppose it's all just IMMATERIAL

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Post by hobbit on Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:58 am

Dan,
Who is Joe F?
Could You post a link to his youtube.

Puzzled it out...firmage.
I have never been too interested , so I just skimmed over it all.


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