Immaterialism

First topic message reminder :

Ok, here we go...... as I take a deep breath.......

Well, this post will be reserved as the topical reminder.  Hopefully the discussion will last for more that one page.

(Please keep in mind the links given in the fifth post on this thread...... https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t313-three-in-one )

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hobbit,

That is the difference in our approaches.   The BPWH can be disseminated much more readily, using language and concepts that don’t rely so much upon individual skills.  This is the because it follows the pattern of the paradigm shift, thus the MoAPS.  And to understand this MoAPS, you have to understand the coherence theory of truth, CohTT.

If you understood the CohTT, then you would understand that personalism is an essential feature of immaterialism, and an essential feature of personalism is the small world hypothesis, SWH.

You just have to understand how these three concepts..... personalism, small word and immaterialism, naturally cohere....... it’s all totally natural.  


11:40.........

I spoke with the Princess. We are pretty much in agreement on everything. She is my main rival for queen/king of the world, so we work together. Then there is Kashmir, waiting in the wings.

It about boots on the ground and wings in the air. With the Princess and her portals, we control the high ground. Being, both of us, biological entities, we also have our boots on the ground. Who is going to match that?



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Dan,

This cohTT is why I quoted from two different books, and in both I recognise truths, they find Me and sort of jump out of the jumble of words that books are to Me.


99,
I have strong Viking links, and thus have Dupuytrens contracture hands.



https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1305903/

Mix in a strong southern Ireland part. and You bake an hobbit.

They can't puzzle out how the Vikings and lots of other tribes navigated the seas, I know exactly how, and clouds and weather systems matter not, no compass needed.

I could sail to America in both directions and land You on the self same sixpence location each time, no matter where the wind may take You.
It's how birds and fish navigate, how the wise salmon can return across the Atlantic to the exact spot it was created at.


It's so simple, but it needs a simple mind to attune to the matrix.

Your tuning dial is heart centred.


https://wakeup-world.com/2014/10/12/heart-centered-awareness-our-portal-to-joy/



hobbit

Ok, hobbit, you will be our truth magnet, our truth dowser.  And that is what Coherence is all about.... dowsing the Truth.

The portal/dowsing team is ready to take over the world..... to turn it on a dime, as it is on the verge of the abyss.  

Ron mentioned, just a few weeks ago, that the portals are opening naturally, anyway. Us Earthlings might only be getting in the way.

My only point is that we do need to point to the way.



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dan wrote:Ok, hobbit, you will be our truth magnet, our truth dowser.  And that is what Coherence is all about.... dowsing the Truth.  

It is, but I operate from My heart field, which is why brain field world is so difficult for Me to operate in.

Humans have become locked into their brain field, I can, and have to operate in this brain dominated system, but switch instantly onto my heart field to attune to what all others are operating from.

Humans are masters of the brain field, but the heart field is far far more powerful, and I can measure this of all in creation( at our scale is easiest, micro is hard)

Smelly is heart field, You are brain field, it causes friction.

The planet is heart field.

hobbit

smelly and me friction ....... Nah...... we’re all on the same team.  

It’s just a question of trust.  

You suppose that the truth and brain field are opposed.  They are not.  It’s just that we have, with science, used the short end of our brain field to grasp the truth.  With Coherence, we will have much greater reach.  

You do have to open your mind to Truth, which is just love, by another name.  It is holistic.  Science has tried to take a reductionist path to truth.  It very effective, technologically, but it totally misses the boat when it comes to the larger questions.  There are attempts, like Systems Theory, to amend things, but amendments are not going to be sufficient.  There is a whole new paradigm, and it’s not about atoms in the void.  

We are afraid of words and ideas because the intellectual community has been using them against us..... to control us.

The intellectual/academic community swallowed into the scientific paradigm, hook, line and sinker. It turned out to be a dead end.... a hole. They don’t know how to did their way out.


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hobbit wrote:Dan,

This cohTT is why I quoted from two different books, and in both I recognise truths, they find Me and sort of jump out of the jumble of words that books are to Me.


99,
I have strong Viking links, and thus have Dupuytrens contracture hands.



https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1305903/

Mix in a strong southern Ireland part. and You bake an hobbit.

They can't puzzle out how the Vikings and lots of other tribes navigated the seas, I know exactly how, and clouds and weather systems matter not, no compass needed.

I could sail to America in both directions and land You on the self same sixpence location each time, no matter where the wind may take You.
It's how birds and fish navigate, how the wise salmon can return across the Atlantic to the exact spot it was created at.


It's so simple, but it needs a simple mind to attune to the matrix.

Your tuning dial is heart centred.


https://wakeup-world.com/2014/10/12/heart-centered-awareness-our-portal-to-joy/



hobbit

How fascinating! Will check out those links and thanks for sharing!

Words, words ,words.....

I should have used tension instead of friction, as it is all about torsion fields not attuned to each other.

Women are far more heart centred, men are predominately brain centred.
Hence the tensions that occur, men in love suddenly are swept into their heart fields, love is the truth.

Pregnant women are suddenly two heart centred and the new creation field is enormous , some women become depressed when they are no longer within that new heart field, and crave to be with the new creation, whilst brain field men often can't understand the fuss.

hobbit

hobbit wrote:Words, words ,words.....

I should have used tension instead of friction, as it is all about torsion fields not attuned to each other.

Women are far more heart centred, men are predominately brain centred. Hence the tensions that occur, men in love suddenly are swept into their heart fields, love is the truth.

Pregnant women are suddenly two heart centred and the new creation field is enormous , some women become depressed when they are no longer within that new heart field, and crave to be with the new creation, whilst brain field men often can't understand the fuss.

hobbit

Indeed.

Why is there suffering on Earth...no reason.

There is no reason for this suffering but weak will, this is a battle of will.

Fear and greed won’t make it over the finish line, hearts will.

Well hobbit, my heart is attuned to my will, I know exactly what you mean.

It shines bright as the Sun.

It is in the heart, Dan can only meet us in the Heart and us him.

We shall wait for you Dan.

The Cosmos has brought you a goat and hobbit, and you barely know what to do

Why was I born in this dark age, oh yah, this is why.

Ok, the tension is that smelly and I are are trying to stretch the two sides of the portal that we all need to walk through.  He is paranoid about my participation..... about my ambitions.  

I have ambition for the Truth, and both of you are afraid that you are going to be swallowed by the Truth.  


Ok, smelly, you admit that you are afraid of me and my ambitions for the Truth. You deny the Truth so the you can deny me.

This is a team effort. I’m not going to give up ‘my’ Truth for anything, anyone. This is not some personal quirk.


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Do you really think hunk hobbit and the goat are afraid Dan?

That is misreading the signs completely.

Sorry Dan, the Truth is the Heart and mine is gobbling you up

But I’m happy to pull this portal open wide with you, I have the strength of Atlas available to do so. And the fire of Prometheus burns at our center, white hot and cold.

I think it’s clear the goat and hobbit are meant to be on your team whether you like it or not.



Let’s be friends Dan.

So why do you have to be oppositionally defiant.  

Relax...... accept the larger truth.  It is larger than all of us together.

You are waiting for me to give you the secret handshake...... to deny the Princess...... to bow down to you as the king of the world.....?

What is it, smelly......? Spit it out........


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Do you see hobbit and I tearing you down?

We bring things back to the center, into the Heart is all.

Is this a battle of heart and mind?

We do not oppose you, we are hugging you and you are squirming away.

I suppose the Truth is bigger and smaller than anything.

Dan, we are just waiting for hug.

We have no requirements from the materia.

If the Princess be centered, then we are her here now with you.

I just saw the princess in my mind with a goat an hobbt by her side.

You must be here too.

smelly,

You don’t understand...... to love me, you have to love my Truth.

Why can’t you grok on that?

Dan, we are speaking of and pointing to the same thing.

Can’t you see that?

This is funny.

You deny the power of thought and imagination.  

You deny the Vision.  I am the Vision. I am the Spirit of Truth.  

I know what your problem is.  

You are denying Jesus.  Jesus is my heart.  I am Jesus’ mind.  

It’s all in the Bible.  Yes, smelly, you threw out the baby with the bath water.  

That’s what is really going on here.

Admit it, smelly. I do believe I have your number..... your real obstacle with the Vision. You are looking for love in all the wrong places. Look to Jesus and you will understand my heart and my Vision.

Now you sound like those fundamentalists.



Aren’t the heart in mind in the same body?

They are always arguing

Let us for a moment agree that we are all connected.

Can we synchronize?

If there be the will, we can.

I will it, so it must be.

I am obviously, using your words, part of the heart and mind of Christ. Jesus is a folk hero invented and used.

It’s a tainted form.

I feel the same energy that lashed out at the princess here now.

Maybe this isn’t about saving anyone but your self.

I have no argument with Jesus, but you do, smelly.  Get over it..... get with it.  

You are never going to take the Jesus out of me, no matter how hard you try.  


Jesus has got to be our point of synchrony...... no substitutes will do.  

Don’t leave home with the j-guy.  

That’s all.  And you cannot stand it.

You think you have saved yourself. You are that arrogant.

I’m here to teach that we are not self-contained.

Not without the j-man and the Truth.

That is a bitter pill for you to swallow. You, and many, have set your hearts against Jesus.

Dan,
http://www.egyptian-scarabs.co.uk/weighing_of_the_heart.htm
Maat.

They worshipped the scarab beetle as a god.

It rolled a ball of dung along an east west line, and at a certain point where a north south line bisected it, it digs a hole, lays an egg and drops the ball of dung on top of it.
From this hole in the ground there crawls a new scarab beetle.

The ancient Egyptians were dowsers supreme (view their hands)


hobbit

I’m not trying to

I am the heart of Christ before you.

Will you do what every age has done?

Deny me?

I am speaking to my self in you.

I see it in you too.

A hobbit, spy, goat, physicist and princess walk into a bar fight together.

Let’s not fight each other.

I don’t name it, but come on man, it’s obvious what’s happening here, no?

Sorry, smelly, no substitutes will do.


What, hobbit........?

Are you comparing Jesus with a dung beetle. You’ve got to be nuts!

So let it be known, the hobbit and goat do not oppose anything.

We are here for you Dan.

We are here together to honor the ancient contract.

I have you Dan, in full embrace.

Love wins.

Shhhhh

Love me...... love Jesus..... love the Truth.  

Jesus is the way the truth and the light, and he ain’t no dung beetle.  

I’m merely pointing to Jesus.  The Truth led me to Jesus and Jesus led me to the Truth.  

When you deny Jesus, you deny all of human history...... you deny Humanity.

That is your basic problem, smelly and hobbit.  

You deny humanity, and God’s plan for us.

You deny that we are, or that we could possibly be, part of someone’s plan.  All your heart talk is for nought, if you don’t know who we are and why we are here.  

We are here, smelly and hobbit, because someone had the Vision of the Best Possible World. I am the shadow of that Someone.


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This site has a god name....Ha ha my bad I wrote good.




http://www.truthbeknown.com/mithra.htm

Hobbit

Ok, hobbit, so what is your point, exactly......?

That Jesus is a walking plagiarism?

Very good you two.

It’s all unfolding as I have seen it

Dan, don’t be such a name dropper.

Don’t know, straight on.