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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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Immaterialism 2

Post by dan on Sun Sep 09, 2018 12:03 pm

First topic message reminder :

[The original topic reminder post http://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t320-immaterialism  
should be substituted here... ]
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Re: Immaterialism 2

Post by 99 on Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:29 am

Well, there seem to be a lot of things happening now that seem to go against the BPWH.

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Post by hobbit on Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:36 am

99 wrote:According to Malachi Martin, who has read Third Secret of Fatima, the reason why the BVM was focused on the consecration of Russia is because of their work in the area of scalar energy. In the wrong hands, a country like Russia would not hesitate, if they deemed it necessary, to use a powerful weapon to annihilate whole populations of the world so as to complete their agenda for world domination. According to Martin, the BVM said in the third secret of Fatima that  a new kind of energy is going to play a big role in an upcoming end world scenario. That energy is scalar energy. Russia has weaponized it hence why the BVM requested that the pope consecrate Russia. But no pope has done that so far and the reason why is because the cabal that's at the top of totem pole controls the Church via their banking system. They run the Vatican Bank. No pope has wanted to jeopardize their position and that of the Church by going against that cabal. So it's not just Russia that has weaponized that energy because it's also that powerful cabal. 

All of this was written about in his books. He was under oath to not reveal the contents of the Third Secret but he did nevertheless reveal that info indirectly in various ways.




http://www.angelfire.com/oz/cv/scalarweapons.html

The "grid" they mention is that which I can detect, it nests in scale.

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Post by hobbit on Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:39 am

dan wrote:CC,

ELE aspects of my philosophy........?

No, I was simply reporting what I hear from the royal household.  

An ELE simply does not fit into the scheme of the BPW.  Our fertility will continue to gradually decline to well below the replacement level, leaving us with 144 million at the Omega.  We started out with the canonical 144 thousand at the Alpha, thus completing our singular, closed timelike curve (CTC) that we call history.  

An Extinction Level Event is the most arbitrary imaginable event.  It would be the antithesis of the Best Possible World.  It would be the proof that we were merely a cancer upon the planet.  This is the opposite of the concept of the chrysalis.  



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0,1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55,89,144

You can tune into this on radio 1.618, also on .618.


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Post by 99 on Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:27 am

Thanks Hobbit... I'll read over that link! Smile
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Post by dan on Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:03 pm

99.......
Well, there seem to be a lot of things happening now that seem to go against the BPWH.

The best possible world hypothesis (BPWH) is not something to be reckoned from day to day, from person to person or from city to city.  

It is simply the statement that, given the entire arc of human history, every single event plays a necessary part in the optimization of the grand design.  Nothing can be understood outside of the larger context.  

One premise of the BPWH is the all sapient creatures are soulmates.  Individually, we are all time sharing the same cosmic soul.  And, to hobbit, I don’t mean to exclude any other beings from that sensorium.  

In Creation, the first shall be last and the last shall be first.  

The BPWH is similar to the principle of optimal action in the quantum real, wherein every possible trajectory enters into the optimal sum over all histories.  Every trajectory is a necessary part of the total.  

Of critical importance is that there would have been no Creation without the apparent separation of creatures from Cmreator/Source.  Our superficial ignorance is the sine qua non of our existence.  As our blinders are removed, we are finding our way back to the Source...... one step, one portal at a time.  

Getting there is half the joy.........
I'll keep working my way back to you, babe, with a burning love inside.....



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Post by Reptile on Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:37 pm

CC, the idea of R&A knowing about an upcoming die off bothered me too but I have tried putting it in perspective. I don't know Foot & Princess but I wouldn't rule out that they may carry that knowledge with a heavy heart and though they may wish to prevent it, they might see that it is something unavoidable and inevitable. Accepting knowledge such as that would be very difficult. Speaking for myself, I would try not to let it consume and destroy me. Maybe the best I could do is drop a few hints.

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Post by hobbit on Mon Oct 29, 2018 2:04 pm

Just ignore the sales pitch by these kiwis, and concentrate on how You operate.
Then realise how You could be discharged.

We are electric beings in an electric universe, keep Your charge up.

Location, location, location.

Our ancient ancestors knew where this was.

https://altered-states.net/index2.php?/lmwo/lmwo.htm







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Post by Reptile on Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:01 pm

I'm not pitching anything to anyone besides maybe myself, I'm trying to not be engulfed in negativity as I have in the past. You are right though hobbit, the inner reflects the outer and I'm learning we may just be able to save the world if we save ourselves.
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Post by dan on Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:10 pm

R&A could not be accused of being humanitarians..... not in any conventional sense.

They labor under the impression that the Creator made a big mistake in creating us, humans.

Needless to say, I do not share this view....... I struggle to take it in stride....... the devil’s advocate I know.......

I’m sure that hobbit might agree with R&A, on many counts.
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Post by Aaron on Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:56 pm

"Not a single grain of sand in this universe is in the wrong place." - Alan Watts
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Post by Reptile on Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:42 pm

The non-conventional seems to be where some of us thrive, myself included. I'll admit, I've gone so low as to hate humanity at times and sometimes I wonder if I am fully human because there is much about them I don't understand. There is no good reason to hate though, so I'm dropping that and I can begin to understand them, maybe even love them. Even still, the Earth is my home and I do love it here, it can be challenging though. I've never been accused of being a humanitarian myself but I must do the best I can to keep the Earth, my home clean. If the Princess is a visitor that means her home is elsewhere, same maybe for Foot. To that I would say "I welcome all with good intentions into my home."
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Post by Aaron on Mon Oct 29, 2018 6:07 pm

Reptile wrote:If the Princess is a visitor that means her home is elsewhere, same maybe for Foot. To that I would say "I welcome all with good intentions into my home."

lol.

Nice one.

I see what you did there.

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Ayyy, I'm full of surprises!
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Post by Foot Mann on Mon Oct 29, 2018 6:30 pm

Difficult days, some people say, perhaps they should all go away. Discloser Dan is here to stay, while the world grows Small and others prey. When all are gone Dan will say, Best Possible World now come what may.
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Post by Aaron on Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:58 pm

Hmm....

Okay then...

Memento Mori

Amor Fati

Hold onto your butts...

Let's see what the next chapter holds...

Thanks for everything Dan!



Thanks Foot...

Peace!


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Post by hobbit on Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:57 am

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/264785921_The_Cosmic_Ether_Introduction_to_Subquantum_Kinetics

That is Paul Laviolette.

Quantum entanglement is about opposite spin fields been in touch wherever they are.
IMHO,

Relative to this galaxy....

All in creation is created from galaxy core spin, and forms satellite locations , earth been one.


Everything then craves rest at galaxy core.


In the most simple of terms it is Yourself at galaxy core .


I can detect the ANU field about anything, so I can recognise such when others describe it, I therefore have this unique gift/curse that I cannot ignore.


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Post by dan on Tue Oct 30, 2018 5:52 am

hobbit,

Please, do not waste bandwidth on an immaterialism thread talking about galaxies.  

Have you no clue as to how stupid that is?

Here, hobbit, we talk about how many mansions are in our father’s house...... how many compartments are in mother’s hive.

Try getting with the program.


Die back.......? I bet hobbit would be all for that. I’m not. When are folks going to figure that out? When will Aliyah figure that out?

When will I go over to Towson University?

Goucher is just too insular.


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Post by hobbit on Tue Oct 30, 2018 9:35 am

Whatever picture You keep trying to paint me into, stating this and that, is garbage.

This planet can hold as many humans as they can make.

Hobbit.....off for a ramble.

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Post by dan on Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:15 am

hobbit,  

This planet can hold as many humans as they can make.
What do you mean by ‘they’, Kemosabe?  

And do really mean ‘can’?  If you change ‘can’ to ‘will’, I would absolutely agree with you.

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dan wrote:hobbit,  

This planet can hold as many humans as they can make.
What do you mean by ‘they’, Kemosabe?  

And do really mean ‘can’?  If you change ‘can’ to ‘will’, I would absolutely agree with you.

I do hope You are not talking in Apache?

They are the creative forces.
The sun/water/wind.
Father/son/holy ghost.



All in creation are co-creators...thus We reap as We sow.

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Post by dan on Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:44 pm

hobbit,

I will take that as a ‘yes’........ the Earth will easily accommodate as many children as we decide we want.

Wonderful....... we are in absolute agreement......
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https://youtu.be/GE2bwuU_irw


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Post by cwallatruth on Wed Oct 31, 2018 12:21 pm

"Guides at each level above ours pretend to be God as long as you believe them. When you finally get to know the guide, well, God is really the next level up. God keeps retreating into infinity."
-John C. Lilly

Dan,
What are your thoughts on John Lilly?
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Post by dan on Thu Nov 01, 2018 4:50 am

cw,

So that’s why we have incarnations, every once in a while.  


A foray onto the campus of Towson University indicates the difficulty of Disclosure......

Along the way, I attended a class by Anne Ashbaugh on Plato’s theory of the Self....... enlightening.  

His theory was incomplete in the sense of Parmenides, Maslow and transpersonal psychology.

Also, to paraphrase Robert Bowers, maybe it’s time for me to go in......


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Post by GrandCru on Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:52 am

dan wrote:cw,

Also, to paraphrase Robert Bowers, maybe it’s time for me to go in......


Paraphrasing an anti-Semitic mass shooter who kills the handicapped isn't a "thing" Dan. You're not the shock jock of eschatology IMO.

On another note, Grant Cameron was interviewed recently mentioning a conversation between Kit Green and Rendlesham Forest experiencer John Burroughs. John says:

"I got woken up...early in the morning & he [Kit Green] tells me...he goes, 'Are you sitting down? You need to sit down. [Based on DNA testing,] you & your son are two of the most unique human beings on Earth.'"

EVEN MORE STARTLING...is the fact that John was encouraged to meditate and do yoga in hopes of strengthening a possible connection with the "others".

Supposedly, John stated that meditating worked. This means to me that John Burroughs is in contact with a non-human intelligence IMO. So my question to Dan is, is there truth that the Rendlesham Forest incident might be taking front stage very soon. Could these upcoming revelations about Rendlesham serve as the conduit for major disclosure details?

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