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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

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Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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Immaterialism 2

Post by dan on Sun Sep 09, 2018 12:03 pm

First topic message reminder :

[The original topic reminder post http://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t320-immaterialism  
should be substituted here... ]
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(cont......)


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Re: Immaterialism 2

Post by GrandCru on Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:35 pm

Dan-

I would like to know the nature of the friendship between Ron and Chris Mellon? Why is Chris so enthusiastic about this.
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Re: Immaterialism 2

Post by smelly on Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:33 pm

Ladies and gentlemen, the smelly goat met a chicken tonight and the goat had his mind blown, again.

Talk of witches and spies and Thelema and a small world and rabbit holes and princess and raw and sarfati and a third drawer and angels and Daimons and space and FRB and black holes.

Then my wife got in on it and proved it was fresh.

This old fucker might not be totally crazy.

The sky is falling down and it’s merging.

This must be the beginning of reunion.



Here is what I am doing...

I have someone to Love

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Re: Immaterialism 2

Post by smelly on Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:36 pm

Hey, look over yonder...



Dan said something about sunfish.

And here comes the Sun over yonder...

This is a Magick carpet ride...

I’m going to the center of the galaxy!!!!





Far out dudes...



Maybe Dan is the Sun, or he is seriously fucking with me.

And I’m an intense fallen care bear learning the meaning of love.

Sure, WTF not, to the center of the galaxy on my Magick carpet.

Get on board...

Wu Wei babies, Wu Wei, don’t row, go with the flow.

You don’t know how real your Dreams are until you see them play out before your eyes.
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Re: Immaterialism 2

Post by dan on Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:43 pm

Yes, smelly, this is the Old Minds Forum.

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Re: Immaterialism 2

Post by cwallatruth on Fri Oct 12, 2018 6:51 am

Couple year old song I just came across. The hook is incredibly catchy. Can't help but think how it might apply to Smelly getting sucked in by Dan. We all want to be read in Dan.... b/c we're WEAK.... AND WHAT'S WRONG WITH THAT!?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LCOiwtCAZE
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Re: Immaterialism 2

Post by GrandCru on Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:21 am

What is the nature of the "friendly" relationship between Ron and Chris M?
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Re: Immaterialism 2

Post by 99 on Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:39 am

dan wrote:Yes, smelly, this is the Old Minds Forum.    
Dan, most of us here are not in the "vintage baby boomer" gen like you are. Not that anything is wrong with that but let's not change the name of this place to Old Minds Forum, ok? Thank-you. lol
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Re: Immaterialism 2

Post by smelly on Fri Oct 12, 2018 9:09 am

We sucked each other into our orbits.

I’m just going to say, the world becomes very small the closer to the Sun you get.

And where does the Sun lead?

Now that is a hint about Space and Big Mind and maybe all of it.

And Aleister Crowley is maybe the key to all of it somehow.

I didn’t mention the funny and interesting synchronicities in detail popping around this.

The red pill Dan, but you tempted me to stick with the blue pill after last night.

How did I get so lucky?

This isn’t about me or ‘my journey’, this is ‘The Journey’ into the Heart of Darkness on a Ship of Fools.

We are on a rock orbiting a Sun apparently, what is not apparent is non-local.

Do we have any real 3rd world problems, I don’t think so.

God has the whole world in his hands, but there is no God, that’s just silly muppet talk.

Read yourselves in, it can be done.

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Re: Immaterialism 2

Post by cwallatruth on Fri Oct 12, 2018 10:06 am

On good and evil:

A soldier named Nobushige came to Hakuin, and asked: "Is there really a paradise and a hell?"

"Who are you?" inquired Hakuin.

"I am a samurai," the warrior replied.

"You, a soldier!" exclaimed Hakuin. "What kind of ruler would have you as his guard? Your face looks like that of a beggar."

Nobushige became so angry that he began to draw his sword, but Hakuin continued: "So you have a sword! Your weapon is probably much too dull to cut off my head."

As Nobushige drew his sword Hakuin remarked: "Here open the gates of hell!"

At these words the samurai, perceiving the master's discipline, sheathed his sword and bowed.

"Here open the gates of paradise," said Hakuin.

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Re: Immaterialism 2

Post by cwallatruth on Fri Oct 12, 2018 10:07 am

The link between Dan and Smelly summed up nicely:

Yamaoka Tesshu, as a young student of Zen, visited one master after another. He called upon Dokuon of Shokoku.

Desiring to show his attainment, he said: "The mind, Buddha, and sentient beings, after all, do not exist. The true nature of phenomena is emptiness. There is no relaization, no delusion, no sage, no mediocrity. There is no giving and nothing to be received."

Dokuon, who was smoking quietly, said nothing. Suddenly he whacked Yamaoka with his bamboo pipe. This made the youth quite angry.

"If nothing exists," inquired Dokuon, "where did this anger come from?"
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Post by smelly on Fri Oct 12, 2018 10:14 am

No anger here anymore.

It is not sustainable, it ebbs away, but rises now and then.

But very true and I had to learn, the real is here in our experience.

Nothing is or ever could be objectively real.

Our universe is in each of our heads.

That’s why it’s good to compare notes with the universes around you you can.

And very good cw, Paradise and Hell are just states of mind.

A lot of muppets are going to be disappointed with no payoff in the sky, wait, no they won’t.

Thy will be fucking dead and then it’s too late.

That does cause me sadness on a level.

So much wasted Time one could be sad about, but I must accept the best amount of time has been used.

I just know they would all love to live an inch off the ground.

Can’t beat it really if you are going to be on Earth.

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Re: Immaterialism 2

Post by cwallatruth on Fri Oct 12, 2018 10:24 am

smelly wrote:No anger here anymore.

It is not sustainable, it ebbs away, but rises now and then.

But very true and I had to learn, the real is here in our experience.

Nothing is or ever could be objectively real.

Our universe is in each of our heads.

That’s why it’s good to compare notes with the universes around you you can.

What sustainability are you looking for?
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Re: Immaterialism 2

Post by Aaron on Fri Oct 12, 2018 10:40 am

dan wrote:Btw, Sloth, my instructions this morning are to pay for a fancy dinner for you and your wife and Joe and Kevin.

This will be Kevin’s consolation prize.  

Thanks for the offer, honestly, but that won't be necessary.

Maybe we can all get together in another life when we are all cats.
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Post by smelly on Fri Oct 12, 2018 10:40 am

It takes energy and cognition to veer away from peace.

I personally seek nothing, this is what comes to you or you come to rest in IT.

Peace can be sustained because it is our resting state.

It is effortless, doing not doing is the Way.

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Re: Immaterialism 2

Post by cwallatruth on Fri Oct 12, 2018 10:51 am

TheSloth wrote:
dan wrote:Btw, Sloth, my instructions this morning are to pay for a fancy dinner for you and your wife and Joe and Kevin.

This will be Kevin’s consolation prize.  

Thanks for the offer, honestly, but that won't be necessary.

Maybe we can all get together in another life when we are all cats.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjDn0-fIlgI
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Re: Immaterialism 2

Post by smelly on Fri Oct 12, 2018 11:16 am

Rather than finding your place in the world, find yourself and you will be the master.



The shadow is erupting...

Don’t hold on, let go, don’t row, flow.

Let it flow through you.


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Re: Immaterialism 2

Post by dan on Fri Oct 12, 2018 11:21 am

There has been a generous proposal by the Princess to host a gotomeeting......

Chicken Little Will the Sky be Falling?

https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/846140717  at 1:30 pm EDT, in very few minutes, but it may be a very brief one.  Also (312) 757-3121.

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Post by cwallatruth on Fri Oct 12, 2018 11:34 am

dan wrote:There has been a generous proposal by the Princess to host a gotomeeting......

Chicken Little Will the Sky be Falling?

https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/846140717  at 1:30 pm EDT, in very few minutes, but it may be a very brief one.  Also (312) 757-3121.

Is this happening still?
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Post by dan on Fri Oct 12, 2018 11:36 am

It may not be........

Don’t worry, it’s not because the sky is falling.

It does appear that there have been insurmountable technical issues on our end. But thank you for your patience, in any case.


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Re: Immaterialism 2

Post by cwallatruth on Fri Oct 12, 2018 11:37 am

dan wrote:It may not be........

Don’t worry, it’s not because the sky is falling.  

Haha. What prompted the impromptu?

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Post by cwallatruth on Fri Oct 12, 2018 11:41 am

So it’s not happening?
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Post by smelly on Fri Oct 12, 2018 11:41 am

Now Dan, don’t pull punches.

Something wonderful and terrifying is upon us.

Nothing will contain it and it doesn’t matter what we do.

Only that stillness in us is real, the rest of this, well, it’s a pretty light show.

Imagine the implications of that or you can experience it.
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Re: Immaterialism 2

Post by dan on Fri Oct 12, 2018 11:44 am

Well, smelly, things are all quiet on the Eastern front.

I believe that this was just a test of our early warning system.

It’s time to sound the all clear.........


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Re: Immaterialism 2

Post by smelly on Fri Oct 12, 2018 11:47 am

Wink

Get used to the Quiet

Times up

The Absolute does not experience time.

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Is this meeting happening or no? Any updates ETA if so?

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