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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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Immaterialism 2

Post by dan on Sun Sep 09, 2018 12:03 pm

First topic message reminder :

[The original topic reminder post http://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t320-immaterialism  
should be substituted here... ]
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Re: Immaterialism 2

Post by Aaron on Sat Oct 27, 2018 3:25 pm

Armagedon like dieback huh? 

Well, you know what they say, mother knows best.
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Re: Immaterialism 2

Post by Cuan Scott on Sat Oct 27, 2018 3:39 pm

Mothers definitely know best!

Are mother's not the most loving though?
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Post by Aaron on Sat Oct 27, 2018 3:48 pm

They are the most loving CS, I can testifying to that.

Love is both strong and gentile.

Maybe armagedon dieback is a form of strong love.

What do you think Dan?

What might Armagedon dieback look like? 

Will we have internet after the Armagedon I wonder?
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Re: Immaterialism 2

Post by Cuan Scott on Sat Oct 27, 2018 3:59 pm

I too would welcome Dan's perspective Smile

I am voting that mum will still make Apple pie (or as we say in Ireland, Apple tart) post Armageddon
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Re: Immaterialism 2

Post by dan on Sat Oct 27, 2018 4:24 pm

The way Aliyah describes it, the Armageddon is the final solution for the human species, being an ‘all inclusive portal’.  It is the Eschaton, in other words.  

I believe that she may be conflating Disclosure with the Omega, which will occur some thousand years hence, after the Millennial Kingdom.  

I have never had a chance to discuss the BPWH with her, in any detail.
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Re: Immaterialism 2

Post by Aaron on Sat Oct 27, 2018 4:27 pm

Dan, 

There is a powerful gravitational anomoly in the Halls of Amenti beneath Atlantis.

It may have recently been triggered by a powerful Pizza portal at the pond.

Your twin sister might be involved with the anomoly.

It might be time to gather there.

If it is, I'll see you there.

99, says I'm digging myself into a hole.

This may have sometthing to do with the excavation through Atlantis into the Halls of Amenti.

Anyway, I'll see you there Dan...

Maybe...

Wink


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Re: Immaterialism 2

Post by Aaron on Sat Oct 27, 2018 4:55 pm

When you arrive Dan, Thoth make ask you to show him a sign.

Just give him a wedgie. Don't tell him it was my suggestion though.
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Re: Immaterialism 2

Post by dan on Sat Oct 27, 2018 5:19 pm

Thank you, Ackbar,

This is the first I’ve heard of the game/story....... whatever it is.  

I will attempt to find out. I’m looking at the ascension glossary.....
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Post by Course Catalog on Sat Oct 27, 2018 5:45 pm

Dan, You have never discussed your BPW hypothesis with the Princess?????!!

Seems like you might want to run it past her some time.

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Re: Immaterialism 2

Post by dan on Sat Oct 27, 2018 6:57 pm

CC,

Nor with Ron. Funny thing, isn’t it?
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Post by Cuan Scott on Sat Oct 27, 2018 7:12 pm

I sense Dan it will happen at the best possible time Smile
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Re: Immaterialism 2

Post by Foot Mann on Sat Oct 27, 2018 7:46 pm

Discloser Dan is here to stay, perhaps at least for another day. In Small Bird he has no role to play, having led MS-13 in Small World pray. Now POJG stalks the Discloser's Gang. Their world grows smaller with each Bang, as WCM drinks stale Tang.
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Re: Immaterialism 2

Post by Aaron on Sat Oct 27, 2018 7:55 pm

Let's dance as we circle the drain.

What better way to go out than dancing?

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Re: Immaterialism 2

Post by dan on Sat Oct 27, 2018 9:16 pm

The ascension glossary is an impressive collection of material, not unlike other collections of spiritual and channeled materials...... the law of one and the Urantia book come to mind.  

The main problem is a grossly excessive number of entries without a clear overview.  

I hope I have been more concise with the BPWH.  The main point of which is it’s adherence to the coherence theory of truth.
.........

I have barely a clue as to what Foot is on about, in the above post. This is similar to my take on many recent such posts.

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Re: Immaterialism 2

Post by student on Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:57 am

A dream about immaterialism:

I used to read a lot of Phantom comics when I was younger, about the Ghost Who Walks.

Recently I had a dream where I was reading one I hadn't read before. In my dream I can clearly recall a panel with the Phantom saying:

"But, who said you have to be a ghost to enjoy the immaterial?"

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Dan, where might I find the ascension glossary?
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Post by dan on Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:02 am

Student,

Where........? the only place to find anything........ google.  


Every book that is not a science text is about magic, in one form or another.  

As the wannabe Antichrist, my job is to consort with the spirits.  I went right to the top.  I choose to consort with Ron and Aliyah.  Our mission, should we choose to accept it, is to manage the majic.  

We do like to play with fire.  We try not to get our fingers burned, too badly.  

As 99 suggests, my precaution is to carry Jesus in my back pocket.  

But I take it back, about science........ science is also about managing magic, and science also has Jesus in its back pocket...... it’s just too embarrassed to admit it.  

To understand where science is with regard to the j-man, you have to understand where science is with regard to history........

To understand history, you also need to understand the b-man and the m-man...... also magicians of the first water....... all three employed different shades of magic.  Is there any question as to whose magic was the most powerful?  

And where did Majic come from.......?  

My contention is that it came straight from the j-man, and nowhere else.  That’s why we spell it with a ‘j’.  

With Buddhism, they have a narrow path and a ‘broad’ path...... well, excuse me very much, Sid, but your, so called, ‘broad’ path is much too narrow for the fat lady........ or for the Antichrist.  

Our path makes the Santa Monica freeway look like a cow path.  

Do keep in mind that Jesus was all about not consorting with the spirits....... suffer the children to come hither, and suffer the witches to burn...... holy smokes..... or burn, baby, burn.  

Only now, with two masters degrees in physics under my belt, is my magic powerful enough to take on the Ronster and his Consort in Chief...... the bobbsey twins of Majic.  

If you listen carefully, the Princess will explain to you about the entanglement of portals, and especially of the rattling portal by the pond, by the Lake.  

Instead of cosmology, AC, we do Hivology, all around the world.  And speaking of coincidences, Aliyah just happens to be the queen bee..... what a coinky-dink.  

I haven’t seen her shape shift, but I have seen her teleport, in front of the Dali museum, just north of Barcelona.  

It’s not always what you know, AC, is it?  

Am I gonna share the Princess......?  

Do I look like I have a jealous bone in my body.....?

The burning of the witches was absolutely necessary to make straight the way for the coming of Scientism.  Majic makes straight the way for the coming of the Antichrist...... thank you very much.  

So, now, it’s time to reopen the portals.  The squeaky old hinges need some witch tallow.  The Las Vegas brand will do, in a pinch.  

What will be our next trick.......?  To Aliyah, I just say, surprise us.  

Actually, that’s what Chris Straub, of the SSCI, said to me...... well, Dan, I guess you’ll just have to surprise us.  

So, it’s one way or the other.  

Any other questions, AC?
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12:40(gmt-4)..........

Our biggest problem going forward is going to be to..... manage the magic.  Too much magic, especially of the wrong kind, will spoil the show for the rest of us.  

The Earth is our magic carpet.  We don’t want a bad actor to pull the rug out from under us.  Do we.....?

Ok, plot spoiler....... that’s not gonna happen.  

But folks like Rocket Boy do keep us wondering.  

donny also likes to play with fire, but we know what his biggest problem is going to be.  

Our biggest problem is that we have no problems.  We’re now just on the clean up crew.  And it is a pretty big mess out there.  We’ve had more than our fair share of confusion....... dont’ya think?  

Once we slice through the knot of confusion....... well, it’ll be relatively smooth sailing....... Omega, here we come..... if the Princess wouldn’t play quite so rough.  


1:45.........

I think our biggest loss will be our loss of faith.

Faith is our most precious commodity. It will go right out the window.....

Our consolation prize will be love. Love will still require faith, just not quite so much cosmic faith.

Cosmic faith, in its turn, will be replaced by agape. That won’t be too hard to take....... will it?



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Re: Immaterialism 2

Post by hobbit on Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:38 am

Exodus 22:18


https://www.biblestudytools.com/exodus/22-18.html

This shite is due to men been terrified of right brain dominant women who can attune to more than left brain dumb men.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrzMhU_4m-g

If anyone threatens to burn Me, I will turn them into a toad, warts and all.


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Re: Immaterialism 2

Post by dan on Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:17 am

And then you’ll be the death of Scientism.
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Post by Aaron on Sun Oct 28, 2018 12:41 pm

Maybe the only way to manage Majic is with Majic.

Pay attention friends.

Poseidon comes for the sea and Ping-ting comes for fire.

https://youtu.be/Jy3vzdtiXF4

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Post by Aaron on Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:00 pm

Too much Majic ruining the show for he rest of us?

How much is too much?

Can there be a ruined show in the BPW?

Who are the rest of us anyway?

After the armegedon die off there is an explosion of life.

Hasnt the Princess seen the end of Moana?

Do me a favor Dan and give the Princess a Cheshire Cat grin for me, like the one she gave you at the Dali museum.

I ensure you all, the show will not be ruined.

I may not be the driver of the disclosure bus, but I’m riding shotgun, no rock.

I’ll keep my yapper shut though...mostly...by sipping chamomile tea with the Tillerman.

https://youtu.be/FHlo_N34vuo
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Post by U on Sun Oct 28, 2018 7:18 pm

After reading up on some of the information about the Aviary, it's past members and it's relation to the eschaton event, I'm starting to see why majic must be managed. I'm surprised I came to this realization but perhaps some of you really are trying to prevent the sky from falling or at least preparing to help pick up the pieces if it does. The clean-up crew as Dan says...
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Re: Immaterialism 2

Post by 99 on Mon Oct 29, 2018 6:10 am

While we’re on the topic of  “end world”  events, there’s a CIA document  on the CIA site on Scalar Waves that was published on that site sometime last year (though the document itself is older). Here’s that page: https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00792R000500240001-6.pdf

Scalar waves is the basis of the so-called “The Black Weapon".

Supposing there’s an entity that’s operating outside of the political arena that’s far more powerful than any country out there that has effectively weaponized this form of energy?
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Post by 99 on Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:22 am

According to Malachi Martin, who has read Third Secret of Fatima, the reason why the BVM was focused on the consecration of Russia is because of their work in the area of scalar energy. In the wrong hands, a country like Russia would not hesitate, if they deemed it necessary, to use a powerful weapon to annihilate whole populations of the world so as to complete their agenda for world domination. According to Martin, the BVM said in the third secret of Fatima that  a new kind of energy is going to play a big role in an upcoming end world scenario. That energy is scalar energy. Russia has weaponized it hence why the BVM requested that the pope consecrate Russia. But no pope has done that so far and the reason why is because the cabal that's at the top of totem pole controls the Church via their banking system. They run the Vatican Bank. No pope has wanted to jeopardize their position and that of the Church by going against that cabal. So it's not just Russia that has weaponized that energy because it's also that powerful cabal. 

All of this was written about in his books. He was under oath to not reveal the contents of the Third Secret but he did nevertheless reveal that info indirectly in various ways.


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Post by Course Catalog on Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:54 am

I must say that I have always found the dieoff and ELE aspects of Dan's philosophy very disturbing. It seems Footmann and Princess share in this breezy acceptance of genocide as a means to an end.
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Re: Immaterialism 2

Post by dan on Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:53 am

CC,

ELE aspects of my philosophy........?

No, I was simply reporting what I hear from the royal household.  

An ELE simply does not fit into the scheme of the BPW.  Our fertility will continue to gradually decline to well below the replacement level, leaving us with 144 million at the Omega.  We started out with the canonical 144 thousand at the Alpha, thus completing our singular, closed timelike curve (CTC) that we call history.  

An Extinction Level Event is the most arbitrary imaginable event. It would be the antithesis of the Best Possible World. It would be the proof that we were merely a cancer upon the planet. This is the opposite of the concept of the chrysalis.



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