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Who's Disclosure is Disclosure?

Sun Apr 14, 2019 2:16 am by Cyrellys

The narrative war is in full swing. When there's a 100 different competing narratives, how is it possible to discern a disclosure?

Is it akin to which truth is Truth?




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    Post by dan Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:52 am

    First topic message reminder :

    Ok, here we go...... as I take a deep breath.......

    Well, this post will be reserved as the topical reminder.  Hopefully the discussion will last for more that one page.

    (Please keep in mind the links given in the fifth post on this thread...... https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t313-three-in-one )

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    Post by Guest Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:54 pm

    Dan,

    Just as you will die for the BPW, I will die for Trinitarian personalism... I agree that we are afraid of the infinite, but not some infinite that inherently lies within, which we are somehow ontologically a part of; but of the infinite "other."

    But we've been through this before.

    Smelly,

    Thanks for the poetryz.
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    Post by dan Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:10 am

    Sorry, dd,

    There is no infinite other.  I don’t know why folks are in thrall to the infinite other.  Clearly you have no clue about trinitarian anything.  You might want to find out what you are actually dying for.  

    There is no finite other, either...... in case you were wondering.


    I can tell you three secrets......

    1.)  there are no secrets

    2.)  us educated folks have educated ourselves into a corner

    3.)  the reason we did that is because it will feel so good when we uneducate ourselves.  

    In order to uneducated yourself, you’ll need a PhD in diseducation.  It’s not easy to get into the program...... that’s what they tell me.  smelly offers an online course at trump university.  

    The only dissertation topic offered is remedial muppethood.


    It is alleged that things are still progressing at the pond by the Lake. Any thoughts of a rollout, however, remain obscure.



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    Post by Big Bunny Love Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:52 am

    I have an idea, let’s not die for anything, let’s live it out til we drop with no expectations or desire just dropping flowerz everywhere we go?!

    You are going to die with no tomorrow.

    You never had a tomorrow.

    You were never promised a tomorrow.

    God loves you best with no tomorrows Wink

    For some reason seein Dan tell it straight brings a certain warm delight inside.

    I have a new word for you Dan...

    Let’s balter!

    (He will get the joke maybe)
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    Post by whoknows Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:11 am

    The Dormouse's world has and infinite of doors.

    You can't pass through them until you mind is ready to receive.

    Sorry to state the obvious again, and not to be too esoteric but haven't at least, the more experienced here noticed you can hear or read something many time but only when your neurons are properly aligned does the knowledge really shine in your awareness.

    IDN maybe it's just me...

    Feed your head.

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    Post by AtomicBrando Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:07 pm

    You can see the eternal in anything you look at it.

    If you reach this state, it all becomes an out of body experience.

    All becomes an aesthetic orgasm, you dance around like a doll.

    Music and poetry as true soul sharing.

    Our words are soul sharing.

    This is what it is to be a Shaman.

    You speak to and call out the soul in each you meet.

    That soul, if it is allowed to express, brings healing on all levels.

    Know and heal thyself.

    Maybe that’s kind of how you feel wk, if so, yah, I can relate.
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    Post by dan Wed Aug 01, 2018 7:46 am

    wk and AB,

    Very true.......

    That’s what I’m learning down here..... all we have to do is relax into Disclosure.  I’m just here to verify the relaxation.  

    I understand that Skai has been admonished for his new found loquaciousness.  I’m glad that John is preparing to take over my slot.  I anxiously await his arrival.  About that return trip....... I’ll be taking it under advisement.

    The world is indeed portalific. Some of us are a bit slow to wake up to that fact.



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    Post by whoknows Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:13 am

    I've always like Hendrix, saw three live show, and after I posted All Along the watchtower yesterday, it brought back memories of 7/4/70 little race track outside of Atlanta
    It was getting to be around midnight and it had been a freakin hot day. With a day like being in a sweat lodge and a head full of what evers, it all seemed pretty surreal already and then Hendrix came out on stage. Didn't care to much for what he did with the first number "Light My Fire," way to fast from what it normally was. after that it really flowed. Talk about Portals!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-wJfR6GJEE

    One of my fav song by Hendrix  
    "May This Be Love"

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    Post by 99 Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:19 am

    Dan wrote:Skai has been admonished for his new found loquaciousness.

    Oh give me a break. What a bunch of creampuffs! I was waiting around for the next random plot twist to show up in Skai's continuing saga, especially the ones that show up at a critical moment just to save his bacon... not to mention updates for those 'things' they planted and how the heck he can drive a jeep, shoot off his gun at bad bandito's while gulping down a bottle of tequila at the same time.... What's not to like?
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    Post by Sign Wed Aug 01, 2018 10:02 am

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    you've been watchin too many John Wayne films...  Very Happy 


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    Post by Big Bunny Love Wed Aug 01, 2018 10:15 am

    whoknows wrote:I've always like Hendrix, saw three live show, and after I posted All Along the watchtower yesterday, it brought back memories of 7/4/70 little race track outside of Atlanta
    It was getting to be around midnight and it had been a freakin hot day. With a day like being in a sweat lodge and a head full of what evers, it all seemed pretty surreal already and then Hendrix came out on stage. Didn't care to much for what he did with the first number "Light My Fire," way to fast from what it normally was. after that it really flowed. Talk about Portals!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-wJfR6GJEE

    One of my fav song by Hendrix  
    "May This Be Love"


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    Post by whoknows Wed Aug 01, 2018 10:44 am

    Smelly,

    You now what they say about sailors. If I had any biological children, it never got back to me.

    But there was this one time at a hot spring in New Mexico, A beautiful girl came and camped right beside my VW pop top, actually I had met her before in Silver City we seemed to connect at the time but never expected to see her again. But, that night under a bright moon she invited me to come lay with her under the stars. She left the next morning with not much more than a kiss.

    Years later I was in a walmart of all places in Silver City and saw a boy may be 15 or 16 would have been around the right age. The family resemblance was uncanny. The things you never really know for sure... Man I've been time tripping a lot he last couple of days.

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    Post by hobbit Wed Aug 01, 2018 11:24 am

    whoknows wrote:Smelly,

    You now what they say about sailors. If I had any biological children, it never got back to me.

    But there was this one time at a hot spring in New Mexico, A beautiful girl came and camped right beside my VW pop top, actually I had met her before in Silver City we seemed to connect at the time but never expected to see her again. But, that night under a bright moon she invited me to come lay with her under the stars. She left the next morning with not much more than a kiss.

    Years later I was in a walmart of all places in Silver City and saw a boy may be 15 or 16 would have been around the right age. The family resemblance was uncanny. The things you never really know for sure... Man I've been time tripping a lot he last couple of days.

     


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    Post by whoknows Wed Aug 01, 2018 11:33 am

    hobbit wrote:Petit monde.

    Been a lot of that goin around. Maybe because it's getting nearer. It may not be an easy birth for many though.

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    Post by hobbit Wed Aug 01, 2018 11:46 am


    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/sep/22/usa
    "A slap in the face for sanity"


    Sometimes I wonder if Americans can sleep at night?
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    Post by dan Wed Aug 01, 2018 12:12 pm

    We’re doing flight testing...... outdoors on a soccer/football pitch.  It’s quite gusty, but the inertial guidance was up to spec.  

    This is the hard work.  Once you figure out the boots on the ground..... wings in the air is easy, or that’s what the Princess tells me.

    John is on blog silence.  Ron gets nervous in the service.

    Part of the the trick is figuring out who is to brief who.... about what.  The Princess is the pivot point...... can teach drones, will travel.  I’m guessing that John coming overland is essential to the task.  Just not sure what the task is..... are we?

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    Post by 99 Wed Aug 01, 2018 12:47 pm

    Oh, so you're sending a drone out for a flight test. That sounds like fun!
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    Post by Big Bunny Love Wed Aug 01, 2018 1:37 pm

    Hobbit, hit the YouTube icon above the text box and paste in the youube link and insert.

    It puts a YouTube tag around the URL.

    Wk, very vivid descriptions today, please continue...

    As always, I don’t have any idea what Dan’s alternate personality in the dream world is up to.

    He seems more relaxed than usual, that’s good for his blood pressure.



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    Post by Big Bunny Love Wed Aug 01, 2018 1:56 pm

    Ok, maybe I was trolling Disclosure 99.

    Smelly did it Wink
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    Post by dan Wed Aug 01, 2018 10:43 pm

    The theory is that the Princess is the queen bee.  Every personal world should have one or two.  The BPW would be no exception.  She seems up to the task.  What if she weren’t?  Who made her queen?  Was it the luck of the draw?  I doubt it.

    She is queen...... because she is wound up.  She never stops going.  She hit ground running.  She is where the rubber meets the road.  She is boots on the ground..... a one woman band.  The face that launched a thousand Jeeps.  

    I believe that John might be Don Juanning in the jungle, only because I think I know the Princess.  

    The Monad is a humanitarian, because it’s going to eat us in the end. That’s amore/agape...... that’s the bottom line of immaterialism. Everybody understands this intuitively. They just don’t like to boast about..... becoming One with the Monad. I blog about it. That’s why I’m blogger mouth.



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    Post by Big Bunny Love Thu Aug 02, 2018 8:37 am

    dan wrote:The theory is that the Princess is the queen bee.  Every personal world should have one or two.  The BPW would be no exception.  She seems up to the task.  What if she weren’t?  Who made her queen?  Was it the luck of the draw?  I doubt it.

    She is queen...... because she is wound up.  She never stops going.  She hit ground running.  She is where the rubber meets the road.  She is boots on the ground..... a one woman band.  The face that launched a thousand Jeeps.  

    I believe that John might be Don Juanning in the jungle, only because I think I know the Princess.  

    The Monad is a humanitarian, because it’s going to eat us in the end.  That’s amore/agape...... that’s the bottom line of immaterialism.  Everybody understands this intuitively.  They just don’t like to boast about..... becoming One with the Monad.  I blog about it.  That’s why I’m blogger mouth.  



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    Post by whoknows Fri Aug 03, 2018 8:55 am

    Sure is quiet around here today.

    Suspect! they probably got Dan drunk last night took him to the temple...

    I tried to tell him; RUN Dan RUN!
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    Post by dan Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:49 am

    Seems like maybe things are getting back to normal.
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    The lyrics, not that they matter start at 1:20
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    Post by dan Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:01 am

    (I do apologize to the Vice President for having been referring to him as ‘jim’, throughout this post. It’s very fortunate that I’m not a politician. I’m very bad at remembering names.)

    This morning, Ron is touting the speech that Pence is scheduled to deliver tomorrow at the pentagon.  According to Ron, it has been reviewed by both Kevin and Joe.  Ron claimed not to have seen it.  

    Ron claims that this speech will be a significant step in disclosure. He volunteered that it would contain a ‘religious’ component.  I questioned the juxtaposition of religion and defense.  This was one reason that jim, rather than donny, would be delivering it.  

    The impending speech was mentioned in response to my observation that I would be hard put to put a disclosure spin onto the Yucatan trip. However, most of the conversation was spent trying to convince me that I had attended the dinner with Maria and her family.  I still don’t believe I was present.  It was in conjunction with the second turtle release, which I did not attend, so I don’t know why Ron was so insistent that I had attended the dinner.  Sometimes he gets like that.  It was mainly intended to divert my complaint about the lack of progress.  


    1:20...........

    The fact that Joe is being extended the opportunity to preview the speech leads me to conclude that it is intended mainly for disinformation.  

    It will be assuming the big world hypothesis (BWH)...... in the context of LDS cosmology.  As Joe explains that cosmology, there is no discernible metaphysics..... or non materialistic ontology.  

    I doubt there will be any mention of Joe.  Is jimmy aware of Joe, or of LDS involvement?  I doubt it.

    The only public awareness of this angle is likely to be this blog.  

    What then might be the ‘religious’ angle?  I would suggest that Jim should mention something that sounds vaguely or implicitly Christocentric.

    Ron tells me that Jim is definitely aware of the Joe’s enterprise, and of the LDS involvement, there with.  


    3:40 (ft ~ gmt-3).........

    Ackbar understands the distinction between Mormon and Christian cosmology.  

    Joe Firmage doesn’t understand..... or, more accurately, Joe assumes the accuracy of the Scientific/BWH(big world hypothesis), and he assumes that anything resembling the SWH is simply due to ignorance and/or superstition.  

    IOW, Joe is a philosophical/ontological illiterate.  

    A way to describe the Mormon/Christian distinction in terms that the modern/scientific mind might grasp is to make reference to the Rare Earth Hypothesis........ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Rare_Earth_hypothesis

    Mormons believe the MWH/BWH....... many (inhabited) worlds.  

    Christians, on the other hand, would favor the REH/BWH.  In other words, we have a snowball’s chance of evangelizing the entire cosmos.  

    IOW, Christians, by definition, believe that the only path to personal salvation is to have a personal relationship with Jesus.  

    I am here to expedite that personal relationship from an historical perspective.  

    I have not previously stated my mission quite so explicitly...... but there you have it.  

    Ok, so how should jim handle this sensitive matter ....... this ‘p*ssing match’ between me and Joe......?

    1.)  He might just ignore it.  

    In reference to the Space Force, Joe suggests that the Force has two missions.......

    a) defense..... against visitors with evil intentions re: the Earth.  

    b) space exploration.  

    jim might well agree with both a) & b).  

    How, then, might he signal his distance from the Mormon cosmology.....?

    2.)  He would have to downplay the defensive aspect of the Space Force.  However, if he alluded to a possible missionary aspect of the Force, the intelligentsia would make him a laughing stock...... more than he already is amongst that crowd.  


    He could simply emphasize that it is strictly for defense against our terrestrial adversaries.  I don’t know what has already been stated, in this regard.  

    IOW, he simply ignores the entire Morman project..... the entire religious aspect.  This puts us right back to option 1.).  That’s the wimp option.  

    That would make Ron’s information incorrect...... hardly the first time.  

    jim could emphasize the possibility for a breakthrough in the propulsion/transportation dimension.  

    This breakthrough could have an evangelical aspect....... it could be part of our manifest destiny....... a cosmic destiny with clearly religious/teleological implications.  

    jim would then implicitly be denying the ETH...... embracing, rather, the Fermi Paradox as proof of our special cosmic Destiny....... they do not have the wherewithal to come here....... we go to them.  

    If jim wants to be taken at all seriously, he would need to make reference to the REH.  

    Teleology & REH.......... this is the only way to remain Christocentric.  Otherwise, he might as well convert to Mormonism and start worshipping Joe as the SoT.  


    6:30........

    Understand that smelly was contributing to Ackbar’s despondency.  AP and Kevin had to intervene.  He will be visiting the lab later today, he told me.  


    Otherwise, jim would need to tell the truth about the Space Force...... it is actually a cover for our portal initiative.  That would be a politically risky move...... unless portals are merely assumed to be technological..... some sort of space warp technology.  

    This is what Joe believes.  

    Any move by jim to introduce a theological dimension into Trump’s SF initiative is going to be politically risky.  I empathize.  

    Most evangelicals assume that the visitors are demonic.  Our best/only defense is prayer.  

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    Post by Course Catalog Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:19 am

    Religion and defense? Time to read Redfern's Final Events again I guess. These people are going to get us killed.

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