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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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Post by dan on Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:52 am

First topic message reminder :

Ok, here we go...... as I take a deep breath.......

Well, this post will be reserved as the topical reminder.  Hopefully the discussion will last for more that one page.

(Please keep in mind the links given in the fifth post on this thread...... http://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t313-three-in-one )

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Post by smelly on Wed Aug 08, 2018 3:20 pm

Whatever happens happens.

We will have no influence on the flow.

You will fight it or embrace it.

More of the same confusion here.

SWH BWH, nonsense...

Back to normal.

It is all clear geometrically.

There are these little muppets with delusions galore lying to each other to obtain large amounts of currency walking around on the third rock of this star.

They have no idea how to live or what they are.

They follow thoughts and feelings and other clueless dead muppets as gods.

Oh and they have the power to end all life on earth.

It’s best to leave them be and act casual while whistling.

But if you want some fun, just laugh at them and show them your butt.

Maybe they will realize they are buttheads.

The smelly goat is happy to talk to pence and poop on him.
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Post by Course Catalog on Wed Aug 08, 2018 5:48 pm

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/the-pentagon-is-moving-toward-establishing-trumps-space-force/2018/08/08/92988760-9b1c-11e8-8d5e-c6c594024954_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.696cb08820df

In a speech at the Pentagon on Thursday at 11:15 a.m., Vice President Pence is scheduled to lay out the administration’s plan. The Pentagon is also expected to release a congressionally mandated report on the plan.

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Post by Ackbar on Wed Aug 08, 2018 7:24 pm

Kevin called me.

We spoke on the phone for an hour or so and he seemed like a cool guy so I decided to just go and meet him and say Hi to Joe also. I met Joe almost a year ago and we spoke several times over the phone but it had been a while since I had said Hi to him.

I had no agenda or purpose honestly. It just happened spontaneously and I went with the flow just for fun. Just to meet Kevin and say hi to Joe. We live so close to each other and I've heard so much about Kevin but never met him so I figured, hey, why not.

We talked a little about God and a few other things but I told him I just believe in Me and doing my best to stay focused on the present and on my family and that ultimately I had to let go of all concepts because I feel they were a distractions from just being with myself here and Now in the present.

I trust that whatever I need will be given me when I need it without having to give much thought to the future or past. Love is letting go of fear and accepting the world and yourself as is here and now. The past and future do not even exist. There is only this Now.

There is only wholeness without judgment.

If you fall in love with the path, you will forget the destination.

Fall completely in love with the path.

To do this is to discover the timeless perfection to which nothing can be added, from which nothing can be taken away. In it, all desires and fears are absence, not because they were given up, but because they have lost their meaning.

"The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit." -John 3:8

In my opinion, scriptures are just words on a page, nothing more. Just fingers pointing at the moon like everything else. They are not special. Everything is special. Existence is special. Everything is a reflection. Everything is you. I am Me. I am this Now. I AM.

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Now to finish off with some Tao Wink

The master has mastered nature not in the sense of conquering it, but by becoming it. 

In surrendering to the Tao, in giving up all concepts, judgements, and desires, her mind has grown naturally compassionate. 

She finds deep in her own experience, the central truths to the art of living, which are paradoxical only on the surface. 

That the more truly solitary we are, the more compassionate we can be. 

That the more we let go of what we love, the more present our love becomes. 

That the clearer our insight into what is beyond good and evil, the more we can embody the good. 

What is a bad man, but a good man's teacher? 

What is a good man, but a bad man's job?

Until finally she is able to say, in all humility, I am the Tao, the truth, and the life. 

Do not try to discover the way, the truth, and the life.

You are the way, the truth, and the life.



Okay...enough words.

I wish you all peace and tranquility.

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Re: Immaterialism

Post by Ackbar on Wed Aug 08, 2018 7:35 pm

smelly wrote:Whatever happens happens.

We will have no influence on the flow.

You will fight it or embrace it.

Wise words me thinkz

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Re: Immaterialism

Post by smelly on Wed Aug 08, 2018 7:42 pm

the moon flower opens its white
trumpetlike flowers at eventide



Really, I love Ack.

He’s a beautiful Dude.

Fuck man, he makes me cry today.

All I or any of us have to do is just to be happy, to love each other and to fucking just blow away dudez...



You see of course don’t you?

I’m trapped.

I was drawn to the darkest spot on Earth I see now.

This is IT, right here.

Gods and fools mix here, guess which one I am muppets, ha!

I could destroy the world with a word you ants, but no, I’m one of you nowz Wink

We are all just runnin in the dark.

Dark forcez and light mix and alchemize here, as above, so below and as withinz.

Luckily I am a master Alchemist and I do my work well.

If the darkness didn’t need the light as much as the light needs the darkness, I’d leave this place and time foreverz.

You all cause me great painz, but life is pain and I’m addicted to pain and life.

I will endure and abide for my love of you, who is me and Me is We.

I’m sucking down the black hole.

I can’t escape ITz gravity.

Don’t hold on tight.

Let it all fucking go.

Or it will rip your fucking armz off, hee hawz...
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Post by dan on Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:12 am

Please note that I have added my apology to yesterday’s lengthy post for my referring to the Vice President as ‘Jim’.  It will not be my first or last confusion of names.  Please bear with me.  

Last night, continuing this morning, on my part, there has been a lengthy texting exchange between Joe, Kevin and me, concerning Cosmology and Theology, inspired in part by the prospect, alleged by Ron, that Vice President Mike Pence may include a religious component in the speech he is scheduled to deliver on the nascent Space Force.  

It is my understanding that both Joe and Kevin have been afforded the opportunity to review Pence’s speech.  Both Joe and I are claiming to be the Spirit of Truth with respect to any impending Disclosure.  

There is a stark contrast between the two truths that Joe and I are offering.  His purports to be the Mormon truth.  Mine purports to be the Christian truth.  

It certainly appears that Joe and the Mormon Church have the inside track with regard to today’s speech by Mike Pence, if, indeed, that speech is intended to be a vehicle for Disclosure.  

My recommendation to the Vice President is that he not inadvertently embrace the Mormon cosmology by way of embracing the concept of a breakthrough space faring technology, which is what Joe believes that his device represents.  

My recommendation is that Mr Pence make, at the least, an implicit reference to the Rare Earth Hypothesis, if he is to make any reference to the existence of extraterrestrial life.  


10:30(forum time/gmt-3)........

The speech is scheduled for 11:15EDT.  In yesterday’s article in the Washington Post about the proposed Space Force, the Force was mentioned only in the context of defending our space assets from terrestrial threats.  

There is no hint of any breakthrough technology that that might turn the Space Force into an interstellar force.

Nor is there any hint of a ‘portal’ technology.  

As far as I know, John S constitutes the entirety of our weaponized Portal Force.  That is more than enough armed defense, by my estimation.  

But, yes, Mr Vice President, I do hope that you include a budget item in the Space Force budget to include a salary and weapons maintenance for John.  

John might play the role of the Swiss guards at the Vatican, with respect to any miscreant Visitors.  

Otherwise, I am fine with the progress that Joe is making with any device by the Lake.  I would just reverse the adage of Asimov....... magic may well appear to be advanced technology.  This alleged ‘technology’ may be the best cover for the metaphysics of the Endtimes.  

In short, if the Vice President were to make any mention of exotic technology, it would be opening a metaphysical Pandora’s Box.  I would suggest, rather, continued facilitation of the WoM/MoAPS, along with a merely conventional continuation of the designated Space Force.  

Otherwise, we are looking for a religious confrontation.  


12:10.........

I’ll watch it live on the PBS website.......

I’m watching on the CBS news site......


12:50........

I think it’s fair to say that Vice President Mike Pence followed my advice to not open the metaphysical Pandora’s Box of exotic technology.

(cont......)


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Post by 99 on Thu Aug 09, 2018 9:34 am

Watch Live @ 11:15 am EDT: VP Mike Pence Details Military Space Force

https://www.space.com/17933-nasa-television-webcasts-live-space-tv.html?utm_source=notification
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June 18 Trump announces new “Space Force” military branch


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Replay of Mike Pence's outline for space force


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Post by whoknows on Thu Aug 09, 2018 11:13 am



"The Wrong Side"

Is it done or is it drag?
Waking up stressed, great
Stepping out into a person
Is you about today
Well, the universe, it tipped a bit
And left me with half a share
And the children love the box again
The animals, right there
And the voices from the past
They say the future will be kinder
They're living all our memories
Some of us need reminding
Glad I didn't stay back in a bitter embrace
There's a fire that needs putting out
With the sun on our faces

Oh, there go the followers
Right under our feet
Come back, we'll be lovers
You're on the wrong side
On the wrong side
On the wrong side
On the wrong side

Just tryna bathe on these dusty roads
And watch the day race
Can be untouched out here
Happier than we've ever been
[?] it's been to
I'm bending it a different way
And all of it's falling in
There's a presence coming up ahead
Let's stop and play a game
You guess which way is back
And I'll guess when we're leaving
There's always a way out
The thing that we make is love
If you can't see that you have it all
Won't hurt to get out

Oh, there go the followers
Right under our feet
Come back, we'll be lovers
You're on the wrong side
On the wrong side
On the wrong side
On the wrong side

There, there go the followers
Right under our feet
Come back, you missed the best part
On the wrong side
On the wrong side
On the wrong side
On the wrong side
I'll be

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Post by Ackbar on Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:12 pm

I watched the speech.

What a fucking racket.

Establishment warmongers.

Neocon sheeple.

Puppets of the military industrial complex, all of them.

Eight billion dollars on a Space Force, ha, what a joke!

Can you hear the fat cats dancing and laughing?

It's all about money and power...greed born from fear and uncertainty.

As long as people value security more than freedom they will be slaves.

Fuck security!

Give me liberty or give me death!

"With the exception of the military industrial complex, we all want a more peaceful world." - Ron Paul

Somebody is making a lot of money from this nation of fear infected sheeple.

Then our esteemed V.P. goes and throws in a little "God's hand will guide us" at the end of his speech. Ha!!!

I say fuck God if God's hand is guiding this bullshit racket of greed!

Who is God? Where is God? Why is God? When is God? How is God?

God is a concept and nothing more.



I am this now, what else do you need?

The military industrial complex is using the concept of God to keep this nation of sheep asleep.

Meh, what can you do?

Just have to go with the flow.  Very Happy

All is well.

Find your inner goats and smell the flowers.

I'm going back underground, this shit is bananas! hahaha!

Have fun and take it easy!

Don't mind me, I'm just walking on by with the walking man. I have no seed to sow.

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Post by 99 on Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:11 pm

Dan wrote:Ron claims that this speech will be a significant step in disclosure. He volunteered that it would contain a ‘religious’ component.  I questioned the juxtaposition of religion and defense.  This was one reason that jim, rather than donny, would be delivering it.  

It sounds like both of you agree with Mattis's opinion on it last year... here's what he said:

When the proposal for a separate force was broached last year, Defense Secretary Jim Mattis resisted it. He wrote to Congress that it would “likely present a narrower and even parochial approach to space operations.”
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/08/09/space-force-pentagon-announces-plan-create-sixth-armed-service/945365002/

Mattis has since changed his mind.

My view is that anything that Trump gets tangled up in, chaos ensues and, in this case, the formation of a Space Force that's separate from the Air Force may get the Disclosure ball rolling.
Just like Ron said, Pence's speech today might be the beginning of that process.
Very telling that they had Pence give that speech today. Will the new civilian director of the Space Force share Pence's parochial sentiments politically and philosophically too? If so, what does that tell us in terms of what they know and 'believe' about UFOs and the "others"?
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Post by dan on Thu Aug 09, 2018 5:56 pm

Mike offered only a touch of God and our manifest destiny in space, at the end of his speech.  

But, poor Mike, I had already advised him not to open the metaphysical can of worms.  

After chastising me for giving Joe a hard time last night about the big vs small world, Ron went on to suggest that the only way to do politics is to do it yourself.  Ergo, the only solution is for Chicken Little to run for President.  Throop suggested that I could enter the New Hampshire primary when driving to Montreal, next month.   I mean, look, there is a Maryland Congressman who has already campaigned in every county in Iowa.  Ron, as Q, would be my campaign chairman.  The Princess would logically be Vice President.  Then she might have to reveal the secrets of the Hive.  

I would be running on the Green Party ticket...... the party of the little green men.  I’m not sure what smelly would be....... perhaps the dog catcher in chief.  Or, he could run for the director of the cia.  He has all the inside knowledge.  

Aliyah only has to tell Foot which of the thirty-two Vectors to pull, on the other side.  

Joe would certainly be our civilian director of the Space Force.  They would send unmanned holographic rocket ships into virtual space.  Kashmir would be in charge of the Stargate.  


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Post by 99 on Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:20 pm

If you're gonna do it Dan, now's the time to do it because if Trump is re-elected in 2020, no one will be able to run for president after that. That's a given.
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Sounds like you've got the 'dream team' already set up... go for it! Count me in for setting up the Cleveland office for your campaign!
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Post by dan on Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:29 pm

There we go, 99, we’re off and running........

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Post by whoknows on Fri Aug 10, 2018 9:18 am

Green Day - Holiday with lyrics! (Brains on Holiday)

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Bahahaha

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Post by dan on Fri Aug 10, 2018 2:43 pm

smelly,

Are you suggesting that Abide should be our campaign slogan?  How would you like to campaign manager?  


wk,

And thank for our campaign song........ can we get permission to use it, as such?  

I have not asked the Princess to be my running mate, yet.  Could somebody on the question of not native born, or not even being a terrestrial?  

Right now, AP is my acting campaign manager...... well, he’s the chairman of my exploratory committee.  Ron is my liaison to MJ12.  

Buddy and I were discussing strategy........

There are several others in the ufo field who would be more obvious candidates/nominees for the Disclosure party.  Shouldn’t we be combining forces behind them?  

Quite possibly, we should........

However, Buddy and I are aiming a bit higher.........

We are exploring the possibility of using the political arena to Disclose the Truth within.    


6:20.........

Well, smelly can be our anti campaign chairman.  


The election in 2020 is expected by some to be the last election before the ushering in of God’s Kingdom.  It’s the last chance election..... the election to end all elections.  

Clearly, then, Buddy and I are forming an exploratory committee for bringing God down to Earth.  We are the harbingers of the Kingdom Come.  

Who’s going to vote against God’s Kingdom?  

I’d like to see any whistle blowing ufologist beat that.  

I had to admonish Buddy about his zealous pursuit of phenomena.  Look, we have nothing against phenomena...... we say, bring it on.....

We mere point out that any and all phenomena serve as Vectors to what already is, or should be, happening between our ears.  

Yes, sports fans, as smelly is wont to remind us, the Kingdom is within........ is there something wrong with voting for that?  

So, there you have it........

How can we possibly lose?  

Now we all have an action item...... vote early, and vote often.



(cont.......)


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Post by smelly on Fri Aug 10, 2018 3:13 pm

Division and separation is how the elite win, why they are leet.

Of course you should join up, duh.

Don’t let them.

You have to find your own contentment and wholeness before you can become incorruptible.

Then we can really fuck their shit up, Disclosure is only the start.

No one has been gypped by life.

Remember when you are fretting and near death even, the Dude is out here taken it easy for all of us.

You can love life and all the things in it.



No missions here, I’m talking to the missionaries.

I’m taking it easy for all you muppets.

Life is good in the garden with my love.

Join me.

Drop it all, let it all go.

That’s the Way.

I’ll never say anything different Wink

And you will always be unbalanced until you are here now.

We will be waiting.

The Dude abides...



Settle it for yourself.

Then create the world you can.

Create your self in partnership with phonomena.

You can do any of it.

Be any thing.

Don’t want to be anything and you will then have everything and then you won’t care anymore about what Dan is caring about.

Bahahaha

Then we can turn off the lightz.
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Post by dan on Fri Aug 10, 2018 3:59 pm

smelly is our self appointed anti campaign chairman.  He will be in charge of ripping down our campaign signs....... and turning off the lightz.
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Post by smelly on Fri Aug 10, 2018 4:18 pm

Let me beginz...

I think every piece of your possible tech is shit, same for our words Wink

Throw all the tech out, all of it!

Back to 1700s steampunk pre-industrial society with free energy this time.

Then we might all have a chance, a chance!

‘Things’ will never ever solve our problems, nor any thought!

EVER!

Throw the books out, burn em, burn em all.

Then we might have the smallest slightest chance!

If the UTs are telling you the truth, they will say tech is our destruction, go another way.

I wonder if you techies and phd engineers ever met Malcolm?

Muppet morons are running around in an insane world.

This is literally Hell.

We may be the muppets of Daimons.

Hell’s always on cable network, 24/7 muppet insanity.

This will be fun!



So, you live in hell and our entire culture is doomed.

Turn all tech off and go withinz....

Auuuuummmmmmmmm

Maybe maybe, just maybe then, we have a chance to see the great irony of being.

Then, at the moment, when all the world is laughing, click....

I’ll turn the lights off.

“Some of us think holding on makes us strong; but sometimes it is letting go.”  ~Hermann Hesse

Oh and run a nameless candidate, call them Me.

No more names shall be given to anyone born from now on.

No more names.

Have you imagined that world?

No names.

They may choose an identifier later.

Who the hell are we to choose a name for anyone but ourselves?!

We are totally facing the wrong way.


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Post by GrandCru on Fri Aug 10, 2018 4:34 pm

smelly wrote:

Turn all tech off and go withinz....

Auuuuummmmmmmmm


Yes Smelly, unplug your computer, remove the battery from your laptop and phone, and go within and don't return to this hell. Hell has no use for you or your words of salvation. But your little muppet heart can't stop you from coming back, the addict you are. That's why I love you.
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Post by smelly on Fri Aug 10, 2018 4:36 pm

GrandCru wrote:
smelly wrote:

Turn all tech off and go withinz....

Auuuuummmmmmmmm


Yes Smelly, unplug your computer, remove the battery from your laptop and phone, and go within and don't return to this hell. Hell has no use for you or your words of salvation. But your little muppet heart can't stop you from coming back, the addict you are. That's why I love you.

GC quickly has gone from a bruh, to the biggest moron on OMF.

Good, progress...
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Post by GrandCru on Fri Aug 10, 2018 4:51 pm

Your muppet judgements bother me not. I wear them with pride "See, look what smelly thinks of me"

I'm still your bruh, see through the weeds.
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Re: Immaterialism

Post by smelly on Fri Aug 10, 2018 4:53 pm

GrandCru wrote:Your muppet judgements bother me not. I wear them with pride "See, look what smelly thinks of me"

I'm still your bruh, see through the weeds.

But that was good smelly trolling GC, you learned well grasshopper, I bet you are Ack.

You are still a little stiff. You will get nowhere I’m sure!

I hope you don’t take any of this shit seriously, no offense Dan.

I know your messing around, just like whoknows.

We are all friends here bruh.

Smelly poops on everyone equally, if people engage me, I figure they want to play.
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Re: Immaterialism

Post by dan on Fri Aug 10, 2018 8:00 pm

Aliyah informs me that it Maria, at our Thursday(?) dinner who first suggested I run for pres.  I remember distinctly having lunch with Maria, but not dinner.  Aliyah has photos.

My present plan is to also campaign for a Constitutional convention to allow Aliyah to run with me on the Chicken Little/Kingdom Come ticket.  

Donny must already be shaking in his boots.

If the Princess is actually the Queen of the Hive, well, hang on to your hats, sports fans.

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Re: Immaterialism

Post by smelly on Fri Aug 10, 2018 8:52 pm

Dan for Pres!!!

I’m behind you 100% Dan!!!

Below is smelly goat’s brother...Hermann.

He could be your mascot, but I guess you will need a chicken for that.

He’s available.

He’s a good goat, even the Hardy Boys, AP and Doug, could stand him.



Partying down on the mothership...


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