B - j - c67890

First topic message reminder :

Bjc could stand for lots of things.  It’s possible to suppose that it stands Baltimore Junior College.  It’s possible to suppose that c stands for chick, which is short for chicken.  

Talk about a pink slip, yesterday, puts me in mind of being laid off, which puts me in mind of a retrospective.........

And a topic header does require at least ten characters.......

The allotted length for a thread is 40 pages...... giving us a chance to take the occasional breather...... as the show goes on.

dan wrote:Chivo,

Could you sometime just show an ounce of concern for your fellow muppets?

I know how you love to posture, but would it kill you to come down off your mighty perch?  

Do you want to go down in history like poor Melania........ do I look like I care?  

We can fool all of the people some of the time.........

Rest assured that we will all succumb to cosmic agape in the end, but does that mean that we are entitled to thumb our nose at the cosmos, in the meantime?  

But, yes, indifference is a wonderful excuse to just sit back and watch the show....... with a bag of popcorn .  



(cont.........)

Don’t speak for me Dan, you speak about your own thinking feeling, you don’t know mine, nor understand it, nor need to.

Neither Cy or the Princess or you or foot or smelly speak for anyone but ourselves and to believe anything else is fantasy at best, psychosis at worst.

God is dead.

Good riddens.

I need no offensive salvation and I’m already condemned to live, but I am not in prison.

And of course all this evil and good are part of this.

Do gooders are mistaken and blind.

So are evil doers.

Who is all good or evil?

Who can be neutral, no one.

Do best for yourself and all others benefit.

This is the flow dude.

I’m not posturing, I’m just sharing the view.

I’m not indifferent, I’m 100% invested here in this life and anything else is a compromise.

My concern for other muppets is simple, relax.

Relax relax relax.

Have fun.

Don’t sweat any of this.

Make it count.

Make it mean something for you.

Forget anyone distracting you from your ease.  

I will never have any position than that.

Act from ease if you can.

A good reminder given the times we live in.

I’d want someone to remind me, I speak only to myself in any of you, not your egos.

You met one muppet, you met them all.

Got my popcorn right here.

I’d not lift a finger to alter events.

Do the work that comes to you well and you don’t need to sweat anything else.

No one is as interesting to me as myself.

I’m just honest about it among pretenders

Muppets tellin their stories.

As you are and will be.

Doesn’t matter what I say or do for anyone but those I’m bound to in love.

You know who you are.

The rest I never met or knew nor desire to.

Muppets just show up and I keep showing up every day.

Funz now until it hurts too much to live, then I’ll go by choice, by my own hand.

I rarely meet an honest person, are there any humans here?

Trump is gonna try martial law and insurrection act I bet.

Until then...Amor F*cking Fati.

Mmmm mmmm good.

Well, Chivo,

You speak not of Truth.  

For you, there can be only the comfort of the self, popcorn and all!

Salvation for us lies in the Truth, if we have the faith that the ultimate Truth is love.  

Cy does speak of Truth, but is silent about how the Truth will be revealed.

The Trumpers prefer martial law over an inauguration....... truth be damned.  

Might will make right...... they believe.  

In Cy’s mind, justice comes before truth.  

But how can that be?  What is justice without truth?  

Cy would gladly see justice dispensed at the end of a gun.  

Where is the spirit of Truth?  

In what form or fashion will the Truth come?  

I don’t think it will come at the end of a gun.  

What happened to speaking truth to power?  

And finally........ what is the truth?  

Where is the truth?  

If truth is not in our hearts, of what use would it be?  

Is not truth the ground of our innermost being?  

If it is not, then we are truly lost.  

With Cy, we would have truth squads.

She calls them Oath Keepers.

To whom do we pledge our allegiance?  

Would she put country before truth?

Whoever pledges their allegiance to anything other than truth and love is on the path to evil.  

Cy is caught up in the heat of battle.

She does not have time to stop and look around.  

Look before you leap, Cy, or we will all be leaping into the abyss.  

The plain truth is that Cyrellys may not know what the truth is.

Perhaps we should slow down long enough to talk about the truth.  

Before we leap into action, it behooves us to pause and ask who are we..... from whence did we come, and whither do we go?

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Those responses you were looking for Dan and the review that goes with them.


1. https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t398p675-b-j-c67890#34243

2. https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t398p675-b-j-c67890#34260

3. https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t398p675-b-j-c67890#34262

4. Dan: https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t398p700-b-j-c67890#34264

5. https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t398p700-b-j-c67890#34267

6. Dan: https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t398p700-b-j-c67890#34268

7. https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t398p700-b-j-c67890#34269

8. Dan: https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t398p700-b-j-c67890#34270

9. https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t398p700-b-j-c67890#34271

10. Dan: https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t398p700-b-j-c67890#34274


PROOF Prevalent Universal Globalist Repetitive Provocation:
https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t398p725-b-j-c67890#34361

Foresapire wrote:(snip) Pushing out the bridge and timeline with bigger rockets (yawn), a trickle of disclosure, a reduction in population, and a "tuning" of consiosusness with social programming is a practical approach. The population will be reduced, we have AI to extend life and therefore the timescale can be pushed out and adjusted. Two sides of a coin - the other side argues that due to the environmental climate crisis, and other predictive related factors, this timeline must happen now or be dramatically accelerated.

RELEVANT INTERLUDE? Simulated Ontology amid neurosis and narcissism. Knowledge of the Map creates the simulated reality. The relationship between the field of the finite and the quality of the infinite to that which is "truly alive". Phenomena and FiOs. What makes the Universe Complete...
INTERLUDE: Identity and our Tangled Web of Theory and Implementation - https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t398p700-b-j-c67890#34275

>>>identity and our tangled web of theory and implementation. Identity (CHOICE OF NATURE).

11. https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t398p700-b-j-c67890#34276

12: instruction to do: https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t398p700-b-j-c67890#34279 ....place the Interlude in the 'simulation' example marked INTERLUDE in this post sequential order: https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t398p700-b-j-c67890#34271

It's not about Trump. Reiteration: :How does one repair erring? Humble Practice without expectation of reward" (restraint of ego, neurosis, narcissism - an art form - art as a tool to transformation)..."the right action/behavior for the right and just reasons sake alone. You all missed Trump doing just that. The OTHERS did not." Target: Produce Choice of Nature - IDENTITY.

"you have departed from what I was taught to expect."

"The mapping of our spiritual progress..."

Presented with proof of paradigm..."Chee's dream eagle screamed in surprise."

Synchronicity, Synergy and unseen Partnerships..."Side by side they raced toward the earth, the ethereal eagle of the Jemez shaman and the broken starship."

When context in the landscape eludes. Loss of reason, despair of resolution in the presence of the unseen..."...an unfettered howl of elemental turmoil; a star-rending fury melded with a frustration no man could hope to understand."

Shockwaves in the fabric of all reality. They know not what they do. All life matters.

"Every man who walks the earth
casts a shadow on the world. [universe - a reverberating sound box in which EVERYTHING is heard]"

"How can we help our young
Who wait to cross the frontier
Between child and adulthood?"

"We've been waiting for you," the man said...

THERE IS YOUR DISCLOSURE.

13. Dan: https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t398p700-b-j-c67890#34274

Cy: Our Oaths upheld are evidence of choice of Identity.


14.Dan: https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t398p700-b-j-c67890#34280

"You may join in the discussion, if you so choose.

I am not looking back.

I am always headed forward....... toward the Truth."


Cy: I did and was joined in the discussion.

Dan: I did read all of your posts, but there was much unfamiliar jargon.

Cy: That was apparent. I am clarifying. This is a complex discussion. The imagery is necessary. Sequential context is necessary.


15. A. https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t398p700-b-j-c67890#34283

"Cy is a person of interest. I have absolutely no doubt."

B. https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t398p650-b-j-c67890#34212
"foot 🦶 has a thing for Cy....... rather like I have a thing for Princess . "

FROM DISCORD in Conversation:
Cyrellys (Mind Mix Radio USA)Yesterday at 7:41 PM
I recommended publicly last Saturday on my show for if Trump is serious about surviving this, the military must act and they need to dump the whole thing on the American Public without pulling the punch not even on the stuff they think the public can't handle. I said if they needed proof the public could handle this I asked my guys right then and there if I was a nut? They both said no. I said I seen the video of the 12yr old approx who'd been delivered over the border by his "parent" the parent murdered and then the boy gutted alive whilst lying attop the "parent" still squirming as the human trafficker stole the live organs from the child and slapping the kid for not holding still...his guts wide open. Yeah I watched that vid and my guys affirmed I did. I then told them to get the full disclosure done so if they're going to go head to head with the cretins everyone will remain on hold long enough to see them all do it. Them sorting the corruption vs us doing it. See I was banned from Twitter minutes after Trump because my wall was being read by him "Chieftain" and I was responding to post by those speakers sending out comms to the public as way of acknowledgement we were listening. Twit nuked me for it. [Twit neurosis. Shrug.]
[show referenced up above] https://www.bitchute.com/video/PQHj17y7H68g/
I am under Oath since 1996 Navy but I've never served. Not in an official capacity. I've been working the paradigm in the same capacity my grandmother the last Ollamh Mor do Aes Dana Willamette did for First Navy IC group instituted by Old George Washington in early America.
IF they do this, we might not have to go kinetic or if it is not enough on their part we in theory at least won't be alone
Cyrellys (Mind Mix Radio USA)Yesterday at 7:49 PM
Yes. In 2008 on a USAP I coined the term for that separation: The Rift. We are currently in the Reckoning....a blowback that happens in a bottleneck. We all together citizens and whitehats are making the collective choice to plow the road up the middle of the bottleneck which makes it possible to avoid a ELE global war.
No one left behind.
It will still be messy. Prior Proper Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance. That prior planning may still be needed and will make a difference. To be a People we must act as a People. We must join against the evil on common ground and make course correction happen
Cyrellys (Mind Mix Radio USA)Yesterday at 7:55 PM
I've taken alot of flak for telling them Mark K is right. When they said the People were "too toxic to deal with" I disagreed and told them no. When fail safe was instituted I said it was a mistake to dive for the bushes and hide...the time is now to stand in the wind. Return to the table and make this work. They did.

16. DAN: https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t398p725-b-j-c67890#34313

"We think we’re living in a four dimensional world....... but it is more like an infinite dimensional world. Physicists call it Hilbert space, but never mind......."

17. Cy: https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t398p725-b-j-c67890#34316

DANs BINGO.

18. Dan: https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t398p725-b-j-c67890#34324

Cy: The Cosmos is part of the very real simulation. A simulation with choices, authors, causes, consequences...that result in Identity and Transformation.

We be of ONE blood thou and I, means of God aka universal [causal] consciousness. We are of ONE family by identifying choice of nature. A parent can produce a child, but that doesn't make the child part of the same soul family. Actions made by choice speak louder than words.

Only opportunity is guaranteed. Each individual is born endowed with potential in the infancy form of rights. These rights are universal. Whether you uphold them, respect them, or abuse them is again choice which becomes proof of nature.

This is a core part of the ensouled experience -- choice of nature. The soul choices provide ongoing journey and transformation. In this sense life is evolutionary, but not for the physical body per se for that is only the container for the true body.

The amount of interconnection we all have in the journey and in life is only limited by readiness. Perception expands transforms when milestones are reached. The pursuit of All Being is the journey thru ongoing transformation of the soul. You don't go back to God, you are all already an integral part of He/She/IT. IT is pervasive in the fabric of our reality, but it RESPECTS free will. Thus choice is the key to transformative experience in the fabric. FORCE is not.

There is your Universal Paddle.

19. Dan: https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t398p725-b-j-c67890#34362

"Cy,

Clearly you align yourself with the forces of light.

I wonder what assurances we have that good will triumph over evil?"



Cy: Assurances? There are none. Everyone is in this together. Having procrastinated for decades it now requires the many to choose and make the choice stick to the proverbial wall.

If mankind suicides you also destroy all those who came back to help. The so called advanced among mankind. Each individual is held responsible for their choice, not success or failure in the fight between good and evil...that's just the landscape where the decision is laid out. Winning matters yes in the sense of the proof required. All Life Matters. This is your tree and it has yet to attain the height of others in the universal forest...having taken longer than others the same age is not a true indicator of final achievement or failure.

To achieve, each needs to remember who they are and believe in their own endowed potential received from God/Source. Intent circumscribes the Universal Causality. It's like a core subroutine in a computer system which the system as a whole cannot live without...because function depends upon it.

DAN: Does God not know the outcome?

Cy: What God/Source knows is not our business right now. Concern for it is distraction. IT respects free will. Yet it partners with those youthful honest true efforts...it's the hand up not the hand out. You refer to this partnership as blessings.

DAN: Does not this drama repeat itself on the myriad planets?

Cy: In a myriad of ways. Yes. Variety is infinite in the essential sense.

DAN: I’m not quite sure I see the point of multiplying the evil here, on an infinity of other worlds.

Is there not a point of diminishing returns, in terms of the lessons learned?

Cy: There is no limit on lessons to be learned. This is the pursuit of All Being. There are other beings out there who've made advances well beyond where we currently are and those who not yet reached what we've so far achieved. Some will never move beyond certain points.

DAN: And what about the worlds where evil triumphs?

Is that just the luck of the draw?

Cy: It was never about luck. Yes there are worlds where evil triumphs. Many components accumulated to result in that. It is a sad fact not all chicks survive to fly the nest.

DAN: And so you were parachuted in here, to save our sorry asses.

How many planets are serviced in this manner, we might wonder?

Cannot God put all her eggs in one basket 🧺, and then watch the basket carefully?

Cy: I am one of many. Aes Dana call it "TWICE BORN" although it is figurative not literal...in terms of many lives. There are established rules wrt young worlds and young races. In that sense the Star Trek theme is no incorrect. But we're an odd case because the prior MENTORS to many young races in the universe and beyond, are on the cusp of their next transformation and so eventual replacements were fostered. The very same ANCIENTs with that stake in our creation who were involved helping SOURCE with our creation and existential birth, perceived a problem. The cannot violate the rules with a direct intervention. But those who originated here can return for another lifetime outside their normal cycle. This is intervention. It does not excuse everyone from doing the work...this is not something the walk-ins were sent to do for us (we had to commit to this level...do not pass GO, Pay$200 and skip your turns to begin again at that position. Whatever happens to the board; choice/outcome, we suffer the same as everyone else. That was the deal.

What can I tell you about the bottleneck?

a. YOU HAVE TO WANT TO LIVE. Some choices are made collectively.
b. Others in the universe their survival depends on you being there eventually. Remember what I said about worlds where evil triumphs? Living is a adventure filled with choices that build your identity. Worlds are lost or worlds are saved by those dangers dragon braved.
c. If you don't embrace your potential and the learning courses encountered...someone else will take your place. That someone will not be the same choice of nature. That which currently vies for that position/career/responsibility you are slated to inherit [Mentors] based on your imbued potential are MUCH closer to you than you realize. Abdication is not a good option unless you are as heartless as it.

Existence has many greater stories. If mankind suicides, you will miss out. There are types of termination which result in absolute destruction of ensouled beings. Some things cannot be undone once happened.

You are greater than you know. What were the champions like in their infancy? I don't know yet, why don't we ask them? [mankind in the mirror]

DAN: You, Cy, claim to be closer to God than the rest of us, poor sods, down here.

How many layers of evolution are between you, and the rest of us?

And how many layers between you and God?

Has God ever been down here to check up on us?

Cy: There is no "closer to God". There is only soul evolution. At one point in time, I was just a little further down the road. All those who returned were. They/We gave all that up to be here....for our origin family, that no ONE is left behind.

Of your second question, I cannot say. My memory is deliberately limited. We are not allowed to bring our knowing/advancement entirely with us.

There are no layers between ANYONE and God. IT/Source saturates everything. And remember Mind is but a fledgling participant in Universal Creative Consciousness aka God. And mind is not limited by time, space, or place. You just haven't gotten your full drivers license just yet...learners permit? Maybe. Let's see what you do with this much information. Keep the vehicle under the speedlimit...the Watchers are already exasperated with cleaning up you all's chronic train wrecks.

Has God ever been down here to check up on us? Are you serious? That's like asking if the soup visits the vegetables in the pot of vegetable soup. WTF?!!!

Rest assured you are children of God and a number of Others technically speaking of the team. You are not spawn...good grief.

And wrt God, you have never been alone. You're just terrible at listening. Practice makes perfect.

God doesn't plan Disclosure. That's a human job. You all need to quit going thru life not talking to each other. It's bizarre and creepy.

The Greater Community are puzzled and exasperated with humanity. Is there anyone in your sphere of interconnection you have not confused, exasperated or pissed off? Nice track record so far. Like I said you all need to quit going thru life not talking to each other. It's bizarre and creepy.

Especially in a nation/people who espouse TRUTH as one of its highest valued ideals. You all have problems because you make exceptions for profiteering with secrecy and circular logic by manufactured authoritarians. Duh.

DAN: Are you going to have to defeat the bad guys before we are allowed to see the Truth?

Cy: In a nutshell? YES. Because every time someone attempted to do your Disclosure, they ended with a bullet in the back of the head. And much worse. The corruption has festered so long, the Reckoning must now be dealt with either first or at the same time. Heaven help us if the Greater Community comes waltzing in here whilst the world is in this ugly knock-down-drag-out brawl.

Hopefully the non-humans who live here and the other ones who use this place as a transit, will be able to explain the ruckus and the mess if necessary whilst the business is being sorted.

Some in the Greater Community already believe humanity is too rabid for this world. Are you? Or will we fix this despotism so we all can get on to bigger and better things?

God DID NOT WITHHOLD THE TRUTH FROM YOU. THAT you all did to each other. Don't blame someone else for your own inequities. Or I will call you jackass and verbally berate you over the head with the term in old fashioned human style.

The BIBLE was not written by Jesus. It was written by those who received the recounting of the tale from students of his students. Keep that in mind. It's like genetics...after seven generations out, you don't exactly resemble the point of origin in question. Don't believe me? Do a seven generation test on verbal memorization accuracy for the volume of the Encyclopedia Britannica. You will be hard pressed to memorize it all the first time let alone assure the accuracy seven human generations later. I can say that because THAT is what the Ancient Irish did after the RETURN when they went agrarian. The current cultural edition even in the presence of high civilization is recounting venerated ancestors as gods, leprechauns, and freaking fairies. ALL of the technical knowledge is GONE. 2000 years after the lifetime of Jesus and you all should see yourselves. Religion was never his intent. Values, mores, human potential yes...not what has been done with those teachings. That's RIGHT OUCH!!!! [for those who don't get it, I just kicked 'christians' under the table in the shins, kinda like jesus who walked up to the money changers and started flipping over tables]

I'm not calling anyone bad. I'm not calling the Bible bad or worthless. I'm saying there's some problems both in content and historical application. Those problems should be sobering but not a nullification. What all I've said before touching on your Bible question, is more important so don't waste your time fixating on it. Some people still need the book to remain vertical or to digest valid necessary points. Respect them. It still generally works.

20. Dan: https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t398p750-b-j-c67890#34367

"Salvation for us lies in the Truth, if we have the faith that the ultimate Truth is love.

Cy does speak of Truth, but is silent about how the Truth will be revealed. "

CY: Read up. Yes salvation lies in Truth, and one of the ultimate Truths is love; but TRUTH is Logos/Word/Divinity.

I said over the course of this whole posting: Disclosure is a Human task. This and these lives is and are a journey thru a landscape of choices which establish the proof of the chosen identity/nature as part of soul evolution and transformation. You can choose not to ever grow up by suiciding the human race...and then another will slide into your spot and wreak havoc that will have irreversible consequences for many you will never get to know because you didn't care about what God gave you...effectively throwing EVERYTHING back in His/Her/ITs face. That is an option. I don't recommend it.

You have to WANT to live. You're already in the bottleneck. Don't screw it up. Ye race of such storied legendary Potential who have a history of screwing up the MOVING PARTS OF ROCKS. [hint: rocks don't normally have moving parts so that's pretty damn messed up!]

Ok so enough of this. You want a truth? Those who know you in the universe so far, the majority of them think you're all fuk-ups in opposition to what God thinks. Keep pretending to be nonsensical violent idiots and prove them right when you nix yourselves. OR you could turn the light on upstairs, repair your roof, and clean up your own mess for once.

21. My final reply in this particular peculiar conversation - Two Vortexes and Setting the Stage For Loves Thought System: https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t158p750-uncommon-thoughts-on-common-things-cyrellys#34358

There you are. Have fun.

Cy

1200z........

Cy,

I will grant you that you are an earnest young woman.  

But we don’t need to go any further than your #2 above where you quote someone, ‘DANIEL’, who is advocating mass arrests for election fraud.  

Really, Cy?  

Are you, yourself, advocating mass arrests?  

If so, you are on the same page as Ron Pandolfi.  

Yes, this is truth at the end of a gun.  

I’m sorry, Cy, truth will not come from a gun.  

Truth will only come from the heart.  

With the rest of your post, above, you seem to be hopeful that you can filibuster the Truth.  

Well, science, for the past four centuries, has been doing just that, with considerable success, I might add.  

But all our filibusters come to an end.  

The Truth will come out...... from the heart.  

Eric Garza is also hopeful about filibustering the Truth, coming from the other side of the political spectrum.  


1400......

On her own thread 🧵, Cy is touting Joseph Farrell @ Nefarium.

Joseph suggests that the massive arrests, starting in this country, for election fraud will then be going global.  


1500..........

If you wish to understand where Joseph’s head is at, you have only to take a glance at his book...... Cosmic War (2007).  

Plot spoiler........ it is your basic Star Wars plot line......

The forces of light and dark are entangled in a cosmic struggle that has been and will be going on....... forever.  

Cy and her Celtic crew have been parachuted 🪂 onto the Earth in anticipation of the coming Armageddon.  

It’s kinda like the return of the bird tribes....... or return of the Jedi, if you will.  

Hey, sports fans, it’s be here or be square.  

And, hey, I definitely subscribe to that philosophy.  

Even Chivo is a subscriber....... after his own fashion.  

No wonder that Cyrellys and little chick are cosmic soulmates.  

And I have another plot spoiler for you....... the good guys are gonna win.  

But, wait, if this struggle is going on forever, how can anyone ever win anything more than a Pyrrhic victory?  

In the best possible world, Mama don’t allow no Pyrrhic victories.  

We only allow the best possible victories........ win-win..... everybody wins.  

Yeah for us, muppets!!

Oh, dear........ how boring!  

How can we prevent boredom in the best possible world?  

Easy...... just keep us barefoot in the winter and ignorant in the summer.  

The God of Revelation must also be the God of Concealment.  

And trust me, sports fans, we have concealment coming out of our ears.  

If we, ufologists 🛸, know anything at all, we know Concealment.  

And we will know Disclosure when we see it.  

Hmmm........ I wouldn’t be totally sure about that.  

It’s sort of like Christians being totally sure about recognizing the ante Christ.  Hmmm ..........

If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened.

Hmmm....... for the sake of the Elect?

For the sake of the 1%?

Best possible world?  Hmmm.......

Something is not computing.......

Little chick suspects that every last one of us, muppets, was elected to be here, now.  

Just ask Chivo.  

This is gonna be the greatest show on Earth.  

Fasten your seat belts, and hang on to your hats 🧢........

And don’t forget the popcorn !



(cont........)

dan wrote:Well, Chivo,

You speak not of Truth.  

................ [snip] ..........

For you, there can be only the comfort of the self, popcorn and all!

Salvation for us lies in the Truth, if we have the faith that the ultimate Truth
Perhaps we should slow down long enough to talk about the truth.  

Before we leap into action, it behooves us to pause and ask who are we..... from whence did we come, and whither do we go?  

.

You and Cy full of and you always were.

Your BS is epic and your truth is a poison.

Logos is a poison.

Now it’s up to your eyes

Nothing is coming, this is what it is.

Nothing means anything to us but what we love.

You and Cy are not speaking of what you love.

You are both just what you are.

Little muppets who have lost their way.

Stay close to what you love.

Chivo,

You outdid yourself on the other thread........ talking about Jung.

Great insight.  

One day you might even refrain from kicking poor little chick .......... on the road to Damascus.

As usual Dan, you are so incredibly incorrect and off in left field, primarily because you gloss not read.  There is no conversation that can be had with you. 

What was it I asked you about Daniel?  I asked you and Ron "who" daniel is.  I said the clue to that is right in your face in the message.  I never asked you to fixate on how he is advocating handling the situation.  I never once said to you how I would advocate handling the situation.  HENSE you did not read.

In light of the above revelation for your readers (who do read), I want to ask you if Universities are in the habit of just giving out scholarship degrees in physics just for showing up?  I have a hard time wrapping my mind around your "two" degrees in physics when you don't read, and you don't exercise simple reading comprehension in relating pieces of information EVEN when being led point by point?

Shrug.

There is a difference in your illustrative activities here vs influential activities in paradigm.

Cy

Poor Cy,

She is already halfway down the rabbit hole , and, just like with Valerie....... https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/17/technology/qanon-meme-queen.html , there is no escape.

Donald is disappearing into the woodwork.  

Who will be in charge now?  

Will it be Valerie?

Back when....... when we were banished from the Garden 🪴, we thought we had made a clean 🧼 break.  

But, no, we never made it beyond the event horizon...... of the Monad.  

Like a cannonball, we have merely reached the apogee of our easily calculable trajectory.  

We are heading back to Source, with an accelerating velocity.  

There is no turning around, now.... and there never was.  

Little chick is declaring hisself to be the new Q, going forward.  

There will not be an official declaration, but it appears that foot 🦶 has shutdown his version.  

There has been a bit of a handoff.  

The antechrist has had his 3 1/2 years.  

Now, things will begin to get serious.  

chick will not change his stripes.  

But the word of mouth will prevail....... in due course.  

Part of that handoff will be via Keith, who is composing a significant debunkery of chick ....... detailing my excursions to the looney bin, for instance.

Oh, yes, Cy....... you are absolutely correct..... there is a global cabal.

But, each in our own way, we are all part of it.

Each of us, in our own way, was born into it....... every last one of us, muppets. chick merely has a bit of seniority...... 1,2,3,3.5, etc.......



(cont.........)

dan wrote:Chivo,

You outdid yourself on the other thread........ talking about Jung.

Great insight.  

One day you might even refrain from kicking poor little chick .......... on the road to Damascus.

We are so close here together, yet so far.

We only have the ground and air in common.

Yes, psyche is in contact and there may be nothing but psyche.

It comes to me.

Mother Mary.

You hear the song on the wind, in the silence.

I think Jung is farther than anyone down that rabbit hole.

And any muppet would be wise to listen.

But I don’t want to go so far down I am writing red books and carving on stone.

What a torture to write things only ones hundreds of years beyond us here now really understand.

Someone lives and pushes the ball and we all run to catch up.

I think Jung explains our world now exactly.

He explains Cy exactly and me and Dan.

Psyche appears to us as god, the source of all.

Do I dare say, I don’t have to believe, I know?

That would spoil the funz.

I know I am a friend of the One and have nothing to fear.

It isn’t what you know, it’s who you know.

I do not consider equality with god a thing to be grasped.

This is lived.

Shall I tell you my secret?

We charming thieves always aim at the

Chivo,

You, me and Cy have already been sucked into the cosmic conspiracy.  

All of us, muppets, are well beyond the point of no return....... we are only very gradually waking up to that fact.  

We are sleepwalkers, walking on the edge of the the Abyss.  

We don’t want to make any fast moves.  

We don’t want to trigger the trap door........ that’s where we panic and end in a cosmic knot 🪢 of fear.  

A knot that would take aeons to disentangle.......

But, wait, that’s exactly what we have been doing down here, for the past millennia.

We are now ready to open the cosmic trap door....... and the Princess is doing that, at the best possible time.  

OMF is the opening.  

We don’t need to stand on any ceremony.  

We have only ever been standing on the Truth.  

Folks are gradually waking up to these circumstances.  

There is a critical mass....... there will be the mother of all chain reactions....... we call it the MoAPS.  

Yes, we begin to wake up to the fact that it is a small world, after all.  

It has always been obvious that the radical left and the radical right were after the same truth.

Like an Ouroboros, eventually we would have to bite our own tail.  

That’s exactly where the spirit of truth was going to be...... waiting patiently.  

In effect, donny was the sacrificial lamb .  

He knew exactly what was going on.   foot 🦶 and Princess always had his ear....... and still do.  

Wuhan was the best possible virus 🦠.  donny was the best possible Antichrist....... get over it ....... get used to it.  

chick can only keep saying....... it is a very small world.

When the sky fell, it was gonna have to fall on someone’s noggin.



(cont.......)

That asteroid that came from outside the solar system is thought more to be a disk.

The disk has been seen throughout history.

When virtue fails, Vishnu will come forth.

The mandala is nothing less than that disk.

Symbol of law, motion, change.

Whirling motion.

The symbols of unity and completeness.

They are not ufos, they are whirling disks.

The psyche throws these disks into form like boomerang 🪃

A mysterious whirling symbol from the beginning of time, at the heart of religion.

It’s all through our art.

A subconscious power symbol.

A symbol of power superior to man.

But we are of the same stuff.

The thrower of the disks may come again, who can say when or if it only will be a psychic return.

Science is helping define the new folklore.

The new religion is much bigger than we have had before on earth.

It will seem like a social movement.

But it is a move of leviathan.

Prof. P is right, we are in the middle of a new spiritual revolution and religion.

An archetypal religion.

Materialism is no escape from psyche.

It is psyche itself.

We just can relax, get it, relax relax relax.

We can never be free of religion.

None of us fully represents or knows mind.

But no one knows more than you do about your mind.

Those 100k read in are not read into anything.

They are pawns ♟  and fools

Stuck in wheels within wheels.

Like Jack Sarfatti and you, stuck like flies in minds eye.

I have experienced telepathy and we will only get better at it.

This works because of the emanation of form from mind.

You have to read yourself into this muppets.

Superstition and prejudice block your way.

Let all that go.

Witness the birth of psyche in form, through history.

Hello final participation.

When we all get gobbled up, but allowed to exist in ourselves.

The whirling wheel of Vishnu is coming for you.

Projected straight out of psyche.

Oh my.

Is the BPW gonna help ya, it’s closer to you than your breath.

Can you feelz it?

The precious?

https://indica.medium.com/i-lived-through-a-coup-america-is-having-one-now-437934b1dac3

Indica is my fav way to chill with psyche.

Could thought show up on radar?!

Of course.

Thought is as real as you are.



The whirling disks of the Aquarian age.

We are just getting the band warmed up, you wait.

The archetype is being projected over our time.

Smelly The Goat (El Chivo) has not nor ever will be alone.

The current insurrection is from psyche.

There is no economic or political or religious cause.

This has been bubbling since, always.

This is final integration, we will know the unknown and mysterious is our friend and when we stray, we are shown this.

Janus shows up when needed, destruction and creation.

We are being assessed, measured, separated.

I’m optimistic, now, more than ever.

This coup is sacred and holy.

It leads to wholeness.

Within the destruction is the way through.

All of form is a psychological test.

The mysterious dot in the sky is an ink blot.

What do you project onto it?

That is the test.

What do you project onto the insurrection?

That is the test.

We are being moved from one state to another.

Wow, it is something to realize and feel.

The Daemon is awake, best to get down with the sickness.

What has come over me, phew?!

Any disagreement we have with others is simply animus and anima fighting and crossing swords.



It’s what we do.

This is love play, we all have a relationship, we just have varying degrees of awareness of it.

I have learned in my 3rd marriage and maybe 20th job that no where else is better than here and I have to stick with it.

And son of a bitch, didn’t life open like a flower

If you stick with this and pull back your projections upon others and give it all a fair shake, you can truly have a relationship.

If you see nothing holding you, you move on.

We project on others so much of what we hate in ourselves.

I think this is the lesson psyche brings through insurrection.


We are fighting in flesh, on the surface, listen up, I am in the deep it says, come.

Wanna know what the daemon in me pushes me to do.

To stick with this.

It has never steered me wrong, it is only myself, the shadow, that has poorly understood my place.

We are still fighting shadows.

But the personal shadow MUST be faced, it has to be this way, trump is its face, have no doubt.

Religions, causes, sciences, arts, maths, handy work is great for those who cannot face the abyss of loneliness.

The nameless never changes, but faces do.

And we have a past and it is deeply connected to being here now.

It is unwise to let your past go.

We need myths to live.

Our religions are degenerate.

Creeds block you from experience.

Religion is a lifestyle, a state of mind.

Jung found alchemy was a complete myth.

Doing this work has amazing political power, work with what shows up, where you are.

I was zapped by Alchemy on Ayahuasca.

In a flash.

You can regenerate yourself and I think have to do this to live your life.

Hope to save the world is a childish illusion.

If you want to know yourself and help best, become yourself.

You will have to reckon with all of it.

It’s shadow time now.

Personal shadow is storming the capital.

We hang by a thread.

You have to want this.

Will and routine only can’t find this.

We can’t plead ignorance.

We can’t ignore this or the deep or the world will just get worse.

Jung saw vast stretches of the world destroyed by the shadow at the end of his life, but there was a slice of life left.

We may just scrape by total catastrophe, but I think we must be honest, it’s likely going to be a big fall.

We have no choice but for as many as possible to do their work on their fear now.

Straight on.

1510z..........

foot and Princess are maintaining radio silence.  

In the last few days, chick has tested the breezes, just on my rolodex...... something does seem to be stirring...... besides just revolution.  It does go deeper, as Chivo suggests.  

The global psyche may be stirring.  

And there is anticipation of more than just riot.  

Something this way comes?  

Something bubbles in our subterranean depths?  

Perhaps .

Oh, yes........ we can do chaos.  We are good at that.  

Of what else are we capable?  

We are seeing re-enactments of original/tribal participation.  

Will we see seeds of our final participation...... Logos Spermatikos?

Chivo outdoes himself at preaching against fear.  

Yea, I tell you that the only antidote to fear is hope.  

Chivo is a bit rusty with his hope shtick.  

Chivo wraps his soul in darkness, and declares warmth.  

Oh, yes, I acknowledge the Abyss.  

We approach the Abyss.  I call it the Eschaton.  

We had best tread carefully.  


1600.........

The Abyss is also an illusion...... but a very effective one.  

It mesmerizes the nihilist.

Is not the Eschaton also an illusion?  

Yes and no.  

The Eschaton is the transition Omega >>> Alpha.  

The Eschaton is our transition back to the Source........ when the chrysalis metamorphs into the butterfly .  

The Alpha is when the caterpillar metamorphs into the chrysalis....... and so we have Owen’s three stages of consciousness.  

You might wish to hang on to your hat 🧢.  

It is impossible to escape beyond the event horizon of the Monad...... even if you travel at the speed of light.  

As chivo likes to say....... amor fati.  

This process will be hard to describe.......

I had a dream last night about waking up dead........

It was rather lucid....... but already it is a bit hazy.  

I found myself in some sort of frustrating situation.  

I was complaining, but the person I complained to was just staring at me, quizzically 🤨.  

It dawned on me that I must be dead, and I began trying to think back to when I must have died, but then it occurred to me that maybe this was my life.   So I said to myself, hopefully....... well, I guess I’ll just have to keep following the light .  

That’s when I awoke.  

Chivo might appreciate this story.  

Chivo supposes that the light is entirely within.  

Little chick supposes we need to see the light reflected in others, in order to be able to navigate 🧭 between the beacons.  


1700..........

Navigation is that simple...... and that difficult .  

Can’t we just crawl in a cave and meditate 🧘‍?  

Were that the case, the good Lord would have made us cave dwellers.  

Even bats have to forage.  


1900........

Those who are rioting around the world........

In some significant measure they are rioting against the fake news...... that we are supposed to live by bread alone.  

The secular humanists have blood on their hands.  

Some of them should know better....... some of them will be pilloried..... for obstructing Truth.  

However, were there not so many obstructors, little chick would not have the bully pulpit.  

Praise the Lord.

TTSA had a partial truth....... but, nay, the Truth will be a package deal.  

Package, package....... who’s got the package ?  

What will it take for the ufologists 🛸 to understand this?  

And the skeptics........ when will a piece of the sky hit them on the head?  

Well, the more they resist, the harder they will fall.  

When will the Princess come down off of her mountain ?

Is donny going to have to slink away....... by the back door of the White House?

Did he really think he could upstage the Truth?  

When will the Royal palace break its radio silence?  


2000.........

Is the Princess going to take her football and go home ?  

Little chick would just have to cry a lot...... stranded on the island .  

Princess was always like........ beam me up, Scotty.  

I would miss the Princess, but this is my home away from home.

Truth will just have to find another Spirit.  

I don’t doubt that it would be a better one.  


I think I’d better review this one........ Alfred North Whitehead, Rudolf Steiner and Owen Barfield: a Conversation....... https://southerncrossreview.org/41/cruse.htm



(cont........)

Dan,

Your comment on what Mr Stone is saying, please.

hobbit

Thank you, hobbit,

There were several of his video/articles that I was unable to view.  

I gather, by connection the dots, that he subscribes to the standard model of cosmology.  

He also believes in an independent dark force that controls the planet.  

Sacha certainly does not believe that this is the best possible world.  

But he does seem to understand that we are approaching a major opening.  

So, yes, he’s about half right.  

Thank you for bringing him to our attention.  

However, I have not yet had a chance to review his videos on ‘cracking the dream code’........ it smacks of immaterialism.  

If so, he is begging the question of how he reconciles immaterialism with the standard Big Bang cosmology.  

Maybe he follows Amit Goswami’s Science Within Consciousness.  

Amit, somehow, manages to smuggle the actual Big Bang into some sort of panpsychism.  I never could make sense of it.  


I have not had a chance, yet, to review Alfred North Whitehead, Rudolf Steiner and Owen Barfield: a Conversation.  



(cont........)

It was worthwhile to read the McClure/Cruz conversation about Barfield, etc, above.  

Being academics, they have to tread very lightly on the eschatological implications of Owen’s revamping of history.  They make a commendable critique of Darwinism.  


In his section....... https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t338p500-livin-your-best-life#34410 , Eric/Chivo offers a review of Jason Jorjani going off the rails over Donald Trump.  Intellectuals are so easily seduced by power.  

Jason sees himself as a prophet within the prophetic tradition.  

However, he somehow identifies this tradition as being essentially an artifact of the Indo/European culture.  

That’s where he goes off the prophetic rails.  

In other words, prophecy pertains solely to the prophetic culture.  

That still doesn’t explain why he misses the essentially global dimension of prophecy.  

At the same time, he denigrates Islam as having trespassed on his favored Persian culture.  

It seems that Jason wishes to micromanage the outworkings of prophetic history.  


Nonetheless, Jason’s actions point to the messianic core of prophecy, which is so tempting to the megalomaniac....... harboring a messianic complex, as so many of us do.  

Does the prophetic tradition necessarily lead to Fascism?  

That would certainly be the case with Jason.  

This tendency is embodied in the notion of the Antichrist.  

There was only supposed to be one of them, but we seem ‘blessed’ with an over abundance.  

However, if there is going to be a paradigm shift..... a vision, is there not going to be a visionary?  Visions hardly ever emerge from committees.  

If you purport to have the mother of all visions, it would be more than a little disingenuous to deny the the spirit of truth.  

Yes, it was foot 🦶 who then presented me with the offer of sunfish.  

What was a poor little chick to do?  

Could I just ignore the obvious logic of that juxtaposition?  

Could I just walk away from it, once it reared its ‘ugly’ head?  

I’ll wager that there are any number of individuals who have come to the vision of the BPW, but who were able to choose discretion over valor.  

Perhaps there simply was no foot 🦶 to provide the swift kick in the butt.  

Be that as it may, here we are, sports fans.  

What’s a little chick to do?  

Run away as fast as his little legs will carry him?  



(cont.......)

Run where?
The borg know where every individual is at all times.
hobbit,

hobbit

2150z.........

hobbit,

Hey, I never had to call foot in the first place, or I could have refused his calls thereafter.  

But, no, I was the moth drawn to the flame .  

There were times when I thought....... yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow......

I honestly just never considered walking away.  There was no pressure.  

I just never felt out of place.

What will happen next, I have no clue.    

foot has tied himself to donny.  

With donny gone, can foot go back to business as usual?  

That seems unlikely........ but can he be replaced?  

Do we need another foot?  It’s hard to imagine a Disclosure without foot being involved.  

Are Luis Elizondo or Chris Mellon going to step in?  

Possibly, but that does seem a bit of a stretch.  

Maybe folks just need to start over from scratch.  

And what about a gatekeeper?  Is Princess going to take her football and go home?  There would be plenty of questions.


2250.........

Or, as Chivo suggests, maybe there is nothing to disclose.

Or it is best in piecemeal....... although I’m not sure what you say, after saying that you have a secret. Is it et’s or ut’s? Is it prophetic or not?

After about the third sentence, you’re gonna be in deep doodoo.

You won’t be able to put the cat back in the bag.

Or we just turn on the OM spigot a little wider....... or shut it down all together.



(cont........)

No, I’m the one eyed fool.

I keep one within and one out here.

It’s of the same stuff.

Life is a beautiful adventure and everyone is looking for Nemo.

Sometimes you gotta kick the shoes off and put your feet in the water and relax.

That’s when anyone truly knows me.

I do not believe anything entirely, another misunderstanding.

See how Dan projects, it’s so cute to watch him think

Can you imagine how Dan would be dead?

He would be like, well, I want to talk to the big guy, pronto.

And the angel will say, well, that’s you chicken.

What do we do now they all ask together?

Bahahaha

Dan wrote: Chivo wraps his soul in darkness, and declares warmth.

Bahahaha, that’s a good one and partly true.

What would it cost me to have hope in mind?

Cause psyche is too powerful to conceive and how can I know anything unless it showed me.

And what what muppet can be believed as far as what they hear?!

And there you have it.

We just can’t know anything for sure, so one must remain optimistic and pragmatic, oh yes, oh yes

Don’t you fear death, oh no.

If it’s nothing, won’t know it, you will just be gone forever.

That’s a fucking lonely and I would say terrifying thought.

It is so hard to face it.

But, I think if you face it and don’t lose your mind, you pass on through.

To the other side?

Perhaps Dan dreams of his coming crossing or oblivion.

It’s a win win I say, either way.

hobbit wrote:

Run where?
The borg know where every individual is at all times.
hobbit,

They don’t know where this is.

Where the compass 🧭 needle only spins.

Our best trick.

Just can’t pin us down to any time and space.

Cause time and space are only projections and we are the paint, not the point.

Dig too deep and no more stories, just nakedness.

So you can stop on whatever level of story you like, but they are all just stories.

Your friend in the vid makes the mistake of many.

Just projection.

He is so off my friend, can you not smell that?!

Dan, why can’t hobbit smell the projection in the muppet vid?

He hasn’t pulled his projections in yet and shared naked awareness.

He is speaking about what he thinks he knows, not what he is.

That’s final participation.

You own it.

All of it.

What’s the point if you have not done that?!

Just playing pretend.

Cause people don’t know what they don’t know.

Your inner light has to show you, but fear obscures it.

That’s how you can easily see who the fools are and who can be  ignored.

You don’t just use a dowsing rod, you use your nose too.

Fascism has no joy or compassion, you can’t make a cake without kindness.

These Antichrists are the aborted attempts at integration.

There is a better way.

The way is within and that sews it all together now.

What is happening now in the world was seen hundreds of years before by those who knew psyche directly.

There is no fix that exists in this world, in that, I feel as Jung.

It’s kinda been roughly worked out, it just has to play out.

The Indians saw their doom too.

Does it matter really how the cookie crumbles?

It crumbles.

It has to for the next thing to come.

Same for death.

We are just blowing through.

Relax and enjoy.

Amor Fati