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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Bjc could stand for lots of things.  It’s possible to suppose that it stands Baltimore Junior College.  It’s possible to suppose that c stands for chick, which is short for chicken.  

    Talk about a pink slip, yesterday, puts me in mind of being laid off, which puts me in mind of a retrospective.........

    And a topic header does require at least ten characters.......

    The allotted length for a thread is 40 pages...... giving us a chance to take the occasional breather...... as the show goes on.


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:27 am

    I’m just the simple mouthpiece of a powerful daemon.

    I know my place and I think they do indeed struggle with each other and the world reflects the deep conflict in us.

    I can’t prove it, it isn’t another layer of delusion.

    It’s real and I’m not.

    I can still work and walk around knowing this, so I don’t get locked away.

    You though, they have locked up several times, bahahahahaha.
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    Post by dan Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:32 am

    Yes, but I have a get out of jail free card.  

    I have three of them.

    You have four of them.


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:32 am

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    What must the awareness and world of the daemon be like?

    We only know it through vague impressions mostly.


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    Post by dan Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:34 am

    Don’t worry, we have his number, too.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:38 am

    It is humbling and embarrassing when one realizes what an ass and fool they have been.



    Daemon just stares through me.

    Those god damn 👀 of the abyss.

    “I had to fall to lose it all.”
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    Post by dan Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:46 am

    My Daemon is the Monad.  

    It has been programmed to eat every other daemon.

    Get over it 😤........ get used to it........


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:47 am

    I promise to give you indigestion.

    **burp**
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    Post by dan Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:53 am

    Not to fear........ smelly goat 🐐 💨 has given chick 🐥 plenty of indigestion.  

    That’s my job.  

    And you are already beyond the event horizon.  

    As are we all.  We are just beginning to wake up to that fact......... 🌅


    Yes, we are muppets alright.   But we are divine muppets.  That’s why we can’t live by bread 🥖 alone.  

    And we know that the fat lady is gonna sing 🎶.  

    The liberals thought they could buy us off with more bread 🥖.

    But we showed them...... didn’t we?!



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:29 am

    Entanglement reveals a world we can’t handle.

    Quantum is fuzzy.

    Photons exist in all possible states until measured.

    If they sent messages instantly, they would be 10k times faster than the speed of light.

    Humans don’t like fuzzy reality.

    Bell proposed superdetermism.

    No free will, already written, nothing spooky.

    Could all time and fate be predetermined?!

    Oh my.

    Whoooop, retro-causality baby.

    https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fphy.2020.00139/full

    Either way, no sweat, we can relax.
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    Post by dan Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:36 am

    Trust the chick 🐥.........

    Super determinism is gonna pull the rug right out from under good ol’ Charlie Darwin.  

    Hello Telos/teleology......... here we come......!

    We can hear the fat lady singing 🎶 already....
    Since the middle of the past century, progress in the foundations of physics has been driven by going to shorter and shorter distances, or higher and higher energies, respectively. But the next step forward might be in an entirely different direction, it might come from finding a theory that does not require us to hand-draw a line between microscopic and macroscopic reality.
    Little flower—but if I could understand
    What you are, root and all, and all in all,
    I should know what God and man is.




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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:57 am

    So must you be.

    You can not escape yourself.

    The seal develops as it lives.

    A force that binds and separates and only can be defined by negations.

    Eros is neutral, the stuff of being.
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    Post by dan Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:08 pm

    1910z........

    Eros is the cosmic graviton....... that which binds all flesh.  

    That which God hath joined together...... let no one put asunder.

    Agape is just Eros...... writ large.


    1940.........

    The eggheads were given a whiff of grapeshot, and now they are running about...... in an absolute frenzy.


    2040..........

    The more that I review the take of the commentariat on Wednesday’s insurrection, the more I come to the view that it provides all of us with a whiff of the Eschaton........ yes, the sky is beginning to fall...... the center is not holding.  

    Donald Trump ripped a scab off an old sore, and his nascent cult is not going to fade back into the woodwork.  

    If this were an isolated incident....... it would be one thing.  

    But, no, this turning our backs on secularity and the Enlightenment..... it has very definitely reached our fair shores....... reached the shining city on the hill.  

    Where may we look for the next beacon of hope?  

    Hope of what?  More Bread?  

    Wasn’t the internet supposed to provide us with more circuses?  

    It has....... in spades ♠.  

    Do we not live by circuses, alone?  

    Where is our River Jordan....... the one that chills the body, but warms the soul.  

    Where is our soul food?  

    What is the old wound that has been newly exposed.  

    Yes, it has something to do with our identity.  

    Is it merely about our racial/ethnic identity?  

    Surely, that must have something to do with it.

    Does it have something to do with our old time religions?  

    Sure, that, too.  

    We seem to have lost our footing...... as we float free from our moorings.

    Where next will we pitch our tents?  


    2250........

    Is the Monad going to warm our souls........ brrrrr!  

    Will DMT?  

    It does something to our souls...... but warmth is not quite the word.  

    What did religion ever do for us?  

    Many religions are austere...... remote omnipotence.  

    The jguy was a bit of an improvement on that model.  

    I speak of Agape, but it does not bring out our passions.  

    Ok..... the best I’ve got...... so far...... communalism, or the revival thereof.  

    Is this our final participation?  

    Is it any substitute for hearth and home...... for family?  

    Nirvana is touted as mainly an escape from suffering.  

    Communalism is the recognition of our soulmates........

    Eros >> Agape....... the recognition of the Divine in each of us..... how we break bread together...... smoke that peace pipe.  

    Eros, alone, is the source of a great amount of competition.

    What Chivo describes to us sounds something like being born again.

    It has been described as almost into a mother’s arms....... rocka my soul......



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    Post by dan Sun Jan 10, 2021 7:17 am

    Ok, I’m getting a better verbal handle on agape........

    It’s not at all unlike motherly love.

    And, speaking of mothers, Cy is back.

    She is almost 😅 our prodigal child 👶.

    foot 🦶 has a thing for Cy....... rather like I have a thing for Princess 👸.

    I mean, we could do a four way........ this is what I mean by agape.

    Passion is like water...... agape is like blood 🩸.

    Blood flows thicker than water.




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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:51 am

    Can’t really imagine a 4 way like that, but whatever rings your bells Wink

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    Post by dan Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:57 am

    In other words, Chivo, the gang is all here!

    Do keep in mind that my sister, Louise, was the den grandmother of the Montana militia. Cy is the den mother.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Jan 10, 2021 10:55 am

    You are all a bunch of loons Wink

    Let me just say, militias and insurrection, not final participation.

    A few points:

    - Lawmakers, police and the corrupt new pentagon leaders colluded with Trump to incite an insurgency. They must be arrested, all of them.
    - They would have burned the ballots if they could have.
    - They would have taken the legislature hostage.
    - They would have have killed members of Congress.
    - There was no protection or preparation to defend the capitol, unreal.
    - Foreign agents of course were in the mob also inciting them, no doubt.
    - I think we have many foreign agents online fomenting rebellion. The true patriots would be resisting them.

    The militias have always been evil. They are dead wrong. They now are the threat. They always were. They are insane.

    I want to know how they got them out of the capital? Who pushed them out? Those are the heroes.

    Yes, from another angle, one could say they protected a corrupt system, but it’s the best we have, come up with better ideas.

    You can’t just yell louder and shoot.

    They were brainwashed and those who brainwashed them are my enemy and I’ll fight and die to stop them.

    I stand against the tyrrany of other’s awful delusional ideas and authoritarians.

    We don’t fight each other with guns, the guns have to go.

    The people can’t be trusted with them.

    We use politics, not guns, to resolve our differences.

    All of this was based on lies, all of it.

    All of this was pushed by Bannon and those he represents are traitors and should be arrested and neutered.

    Anyone anyone in intelligence, not a smart one among em, who allowed this, should be arrested and tried, if that was left foot, especially his type.

    I’m a patriot, I love our country for the chances it’s given us, but our system is imperfect and is open for abuse.

    We work to perfect it together.

    But the founder’s protections have held so far.

    We cannot demonize each other, but you are accountable for your actions and no one reaches final participation until they accept responsibility for their actions.

    How dare we turn on each other?!

    We don’t deserve America.

    The human ape kind on earth does not deserve to be in charge of earth.

    We should be removed and maybe finally totally removed from being.

    I do not think the human being in its current form is worthy of final participation or is anywhere close.

    They are as far from themselves as they have ever been.

    Princess, don’t let one of us in.

    It might take millennia.

    We have to get along and have much more in common than not.

    Where is love your neighbor?

    Where are the Christians asking what would Jesus do?

    These people don’t know or love Christ or have any conception of that love.

    I think it’s clear, America and its evil religion, is an absolute total sham and the right lunatics certainly are not worthy of it, neither are the left extremists.

    This is the worst it’s ever been.

    I’m ashamed to be part of these idiots’ species.

    This is nothing but chaos.

    If you don’t raise your standard, then who will?

    If you don’t stare evil down, then who will?

    If you won’t let your anger go, then who will?

    Yes, today I’m angry.

    But I stand with it and give it voice instead of shooting a gun or stabbing with a knife.

    The smelly goat is not a pacifist, we will fight and die for the chance to know this as ourselves, as Marcus Aurelius did.

    I don’t let it simmer and grow.

    I have to vent too.

    Locking them up would probably just make it bubble over into full civil war.

    This was all from the prince of lies.

    I will admit he has power over the weak minded.

    He can have them.

    But I know the greatness in us and I am committed now more than ever to making sure the spark in us will not be snuffed out in my heart while I have breath.

    We need some comedy 🎭 about now.

    Instead of fear, this inner flame 🔥 is being fanned into a great flame.

    I don’t know what’s going to happen and that doesn’t make me fear.

    I know I can face it and may die sooner than I’d hoped, though many of us can’t. Well, they can stand behind me then until they can face it.

    I just wanted to live in my lil goat shack with my pack and make love until I die, in peace, but I’d gladly fight and die for love.

    Straight on.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Jan 10, 2021 1:10 pm

    When you have studied the logos deeply and let it intertwine with your innards and imagination, you know this must be divine milk from mother.

    We are renewed by it.

    But then, the logos and all gods within become serpents and you feel its bite.

    Reason was the gift of logos to help us, but it becomes a poison.

    We want to educate all the world around us into reason, but we only spread the poison.

    Thinking and feeling in secret begin to worship the logos.

    The blind one would tyrannically inflict the logos on all.

    You will become cold if you bring beauty down.

    Men always want to destroy the beautiful outside themselves.

    The god is afraid of man.

    We pull on each other.



    The enlightened make the worst poison.

    They are surrounded by a dark cloud and are paralyzed.

    We burden ourselves with the gods until we let this go.

    The burden lifts you up.

    Fantasy is the other reality, the imaginal.

    Transmuting the gods into fantasy allows us to interact and not be destroyed by their weight.

    When the god comes near, the literal rave and go crazy. One fears the coming god in the other.

    Oh my.
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    Post by dan Sun Jan 10, 2021 1:16 pm

    I’m attempting to chat with Chivo.

    I’ve been out on a Sunday drive.


    2025........

    I’m having difficulty establishing communication with Eric.  

    Princess 👸, is donny about ready to turn things over to the chick 🐥, or would he still like to go another round??




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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Jan 10, 2021 1:27 pm

    I’m out with the pack unavailable atm.

    As you were.
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    Post by dan Sun Jan 10, 2021 1:49 pm

    I’m still here.

    The question of the hour is how best to preempt the 17th.
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    Post by dan Sun Jan 10, 2021 2:34 pm

    Testing.........

    It appears that some of the social media are being shut down......
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Jan 10, 2021 2:47 pm

    Only the seditious parts Wink

    If they were serious they would shut down godlikeproductions.com 4chan 8chan and many others and dark web shit.

    They would have to shutdown messaging apps.

    It would be a huge operation.

    We just got hacked, we can’t manage it.

    Parler is a cesspool where they planned insurrection.

    Trump and qanon Twitter was nonstop lies, good riddens.


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    Post by Foresaperire Sun Jan 10, 2021 2:54 pm

    There is a debate around Lucifer, Satan and Prometheus.  Lucifer is not Satan. Part of the debate revolves around what I've coined TBE (The book ends) of the Bible.  The first story we are told is that a "serpent" or Seraph's intent was to illuminate or enlighten Adam and Eve and was punished for doing so, and it was woman's fault for the fall of humankind (this is quite a twist!).  The last book in the Bible, tells us that we should be weary of the one who comes to unify and create peace on the planet....this person is in fact "the antichrist."  In essence, human progress and enlightenment was originally banned and the original sin was woman's fault...and the last story we are told before bedtime is to keep an eye out for those that would seek peace and unification on the planet. \\\TBE/// Hmmm....I think we need a new story to tell our children.  

    The "gods" were angry that Enki would defend the human species and the eternal flame that is in each one of us.   Prometheus is pro-human.  Jesus is pro-human.  Lucifer is pro-human - all in their actions and intent.  One must ask themselves...if someone is not on the side of humans who's side are they on?

    What does Cynthia S. have to do with all of this?
    *Dan, please do not delete my post because of my avatar for lack of understanding...I'll just spell it out for you so it's easy for you to grasp and to avoid your preemptive actions without seeking understanding first.  It is the Raven who stole the Sun.  Google it.


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Jan 10, 2021 2:56 pm

    Only within can one settle it, healing their blind god.

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    Post by dan Sun Jan 10, 2021 4:52 pm

    Fores is asking about a Cynthia S.  

    I don’t know any Cynthia S.

    I was referring to Cyrellys Griebenbach, the owner of OMF.  

    Fores has truly not been doing his homework 📚.  

    It appears that Cy’s pages have been taken off of Google.  

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