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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:29 am

    First topic message reminder :

    Bjc could stand for lots of things.  It’s possible to suppose that it stands Baltimore Junior College.  It’s possible to suppose that c stands for chick, which is short for chicken.  

    Talk about a pink slip, yesterday, puts me in mind of being laid off, which puts me in mind of a retrospective.........

    And a topic header does require at least ten characters.......

    The allotted length for a thread is 40 pages...... giving us a chance to take the occasional breather...... as the show goes on.


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:04 am

    So sorry left foot.

    Nothing you ultimately predicted happened.

    All of this lies.

    Trump was all lies.

    The founding fathers were wise, but imperfect and they tried to give us a system that would improve itself.

    They are of much higher quality than our govt today.

    Biden has been sworn in.

    No one was arrested but liars.

    Many have been brainwashed, weak minded fools.

    And miraculously, the world keeps turning.

    So many incredible things happen we don’t notice.

    The water flows.

    The earth sprouts.

    The light shines.

    Creatures big and small crawl on the face of earth.

    That sounds just fine to me.

    The problem is in thought, not life.

    The division on earth reflects our deep inner division.

    The storm is just beginning.

    But the sun still shines.

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    Post by GSB Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:28 am

    Here you go Dan:

    When Joe Biden is sworn in as the 46th President of the United States on January 20th, he will be embarking on an undoubtedly stressful tenure as commander in chief. A raging global pandemic; escalating tensions with Iran; aggressive moves by China; increased Russian hacking; and, lest we not forget, that whole insurrection at the Capitol on January 6th.

    The soon-to-be president may not realize it yet, but there’s another challenge looming on the horizon involving a subject long relegated to society’s fringe. Viewed through the lens of history, however, it could end up defining Joe Biden’s presidential legacy.



    We’re speaking here of unidentified flying objects. Or in currently favored parlance, unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP).

    Right now, with so many more pressing and gravely serious issues going on, this suggestion may seem unhinged. Bear with us for a moment and let us explain.


    https://thedebrief.org/the-decades-long-ufo-taboo-the-biden-administration-will-have-to-face/



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    Post by GSB Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:31 am

    And then there is this:

    Our sources also tell us that the best data collected has come from measurement and signature intelligence (MASINT). Some of the most sophisticated and highly classified surveillance systems in the world have been able to gather diverse forms of data on UAP, including electromagnetic pulse, acoustic signature, electro-optical, unintentional radiation, spectroscopic, and dimension/feature profiling intelligence.

    We speak here of sources that, while well situated and reliable, remain cautious and never become overly specific with respect to classified matters. They are not “whistleblowers,” nor “leakers” in the usual sense. That they are willing to speak to us at all about these matters is a manifestation of how unsettled they are by some of the images, data, and analysis that they have seen. They have been forced to conclude that tangible aerial objects with remarkable capacities exist, that no prosaic explanation fits. They express that we collectively had best start taking this subject way more seriously, and fast.


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    Post by GSB Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:34 am

    By the way, how does Ron explain his precognitive failure re: Trump's 2nd term in office?

    What comes next will likely be bigger and more unexpected (the unknown unknown) than anyone can anticipate, myself included.


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    Post by U Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:52 am

    Yeah don't worry Gary, we'll whip you boys into shape. Buckle up!
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    Post by dan Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:04 pm

    1900........

    Yes,

    This Country...... this World has successfully transited a very significant portal.  

    In no small measure do we owe our sincerest gratitude to foot 🦶 and Princess 👸.

    Little chick 🐥 never had the slightest doubt.

    Even, especially, donny played his part...... all the way down to the wire....... bless his departed heart.


    2020..........

    The drama that we have just been witnessing has come down to us through the Aeons.  

    Yea though we walk through the Valley........

    From the comfort of our living rooms we have been privileged to stare into the abyss.  

    We had a close encounter with donny being able to declare martial law.  

    Perhaps we came within a very few minutes of that happening on January 6.  

    Don’t ever underestimate the depth of choreography of Source.  

    The Source has numbered every hair on our head.  

    And make no mistake........ every one of us has a finger in that pie 🥧.  

    And, yes, we have all been the victims of fake news........ for the past six thousand years.  

    Victims??!!........... our original ‘sin’ has been has been the best possible fake news.  

    The BPW has been the best kept....... and the worst kept...... secret of all time.  

    In fact, this secret has been the essence of our temporal dimension.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:56 pm

    GSB wrote:By the way, how does Ron explain his precognitive failure re: Trump's 2nd term in office?

    What comes next will likely be bigger and more unexpected (the unknown unknown) than anyone can anticipate, myself included.

    I thought you knew the future pretender.

    You haven’t done the work.

    So it is unknown to you.

    Know Thyself.

    Good luck muppet.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:03 pm

    Yah, psyche is just so confounding.

    You aren’t going to drive this, no one is.

    This is all decided beyond our awareness.

    I finally accept this.

    It kinda changes things quite a bit but nothing changes except we can live with more ease.

    I don’t think anything wants to hurt us.

    In fact I think this is all for the best.

    All of us are confounded and I am glad.

    Show me your fear.

    Let me see your teeth.
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    Post by dan Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:04 pm

    I apologize for Eric for not paying attention.......

    He is refusing to answer his phone.
    ...........

    2107.......

    Ok, I see Chivo is beginning wake up and smell the coffee ☕.


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:35 pm

    Dan says he called off martial law, but he had to sit on the edge of his seat until the Helicopter left, haha.

    Do I believe he believes this Ron?

    I don't know Ron, Dan seems to believe him.

    Now I know Dan is crazy, but he isn't stupid, usually.

    No one works for anyone but themselves.

    My favorite player was Mike Lindell, The My Pillow Guy, perfect shakespearean fool, getting involved in geopoltics and insurrection at the 12th hour, who thought that con muppet had it in him?!

    Encore! Encore!

    I do believe people think they work for unseen forces.

    These are basically idiots.

    I work for myself.

    I watch the idiots.

    That QAnon could have been believed by so many, is the measure of how much of humanity is asleep.

    They should fool as many as can be fooled as long as they can, until they can’t.

    Why would someone not see through QAnon after reading one post?!

    Taker easy everyone, have fun, the dude abides pretending idiot muppets and QAnon too.
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    Post by dan Wed Jan 20, 2021 3:49 pm

    Of course, Chivo is very likely to go down as the biggest fool in history.......

    But notice that even our biggest fool is able to come around.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:25 pm

    No one is anyone’s problem.

    If I am your fool, I am doing pretty good.

    Dan thinks the outside world is way more important than it is.

    He refuses to go to the source.

    That’s his loss.

    No one is aware really of what they are doing or why.

    In this, we are all equally blind and all equally fools.

    It brings me great satisfaction to know you are all full of it, especially the ones acting like they have any clue what is happening.
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    Post by U Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:04 pm

    True enough, you said it yourself though Chivo, some myths do hold weight.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:46 pm

    As long as we remember it is all stories, our story, we can make out well enough.

    All the myths and stories together are true.

    You can really feel we went through a portal.

    That’s interesting.

    The genius of Trump’s turmoil was to expose our ugly shadow.

    And he did, and it is ugly.

    But we can’t turn away from it, if we embrace it and integrate the shadow, we will do just fine I think.

    To continue to ignore why they rose up will surely doom us.

    But life is hard enough without lies, do we have to lie so much to ourselves?

    It appears more believe the lie.

    We are being awoken by our deepest will.

    That is no small thing and places us uniquely in time.

    If anyone wants to be a radical, go for it.

    If that’s how life drives you, who is anyone else to convince anyone otherwise?

    I just like to argue with Dan, ignore me.

    The Devil sent me to torment him apparently Wink

    Bon Jovi is singing Here Comes The Sun 🌞 in the inauguration.

    And I say...it’s all right.

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    Post by dan Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:12 pm

    Little chick 🐥 is already beginning to feel sorry for poor donny.

    Somebody had to play the fall guy.

    It couldn’t have happened to a more deserving guy.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:37 pm

    I don't think people are targeted, I think our actions slot us into roles in the simulation.

    He was a mean bully, he was perfect for his role.

    His actions selected him.

    It doesn't matter if he was aware of it or not.

    As soon as I started writing this, incredibly load ringing started in my ears.

    Phew, just passed, I wonder what that ear ringing thing means sometimes.

    Prob random Tinnitus, but I have made a commitment.

    Jung and others challenged me to see everything as a sign from myself.

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    Post by U Wed Jan 20, 2021 9:24 pm

    I used to have tinnitus but I don't anymore after that funny thing that happened.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:16 pm

    It’s all wonderfully funny.

    That is the only reason I have any hope left.

    Because when you boil humans down, we re fun and joyful and artistic and lazy and wonderfully curious.

    Watch the great apes to see who were and still are.

    Most are just chill.

    But there is a rage in some.

    Just like us.

    Reason can’t contain the rage.

    We are the AI created by the genes maybe.

    And we can override our maker.

    Our creations will override us.

    Dan doesn’t like being artificial.

    He doesn’t like being a gene machine.

    Dan thinks he’s smarter than dumb genes who made his brain to spread themselves.

    Maybe genes have planned to take us multi-dimensional since the beginning.

    Dan doesn’t have as good as an imagination as I have.

    He’s old and getting senile.

    Happens to us all.

    🐐

    That push to make oneself is what drives us.

    It can burn 🔥 like a sun 🌞 if you let it.

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    Post by hobbit Thu Jan 21, 2021 4:54 am

    I wonder if Your new president is singing this?


    As Their temple is ringed?

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:43 am

    Wheels within wheels.

    Seen one ring, seen em all.

    Met one muppet, met em all.
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    Post by hobbit Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:23 am

    Smelly El Chivo wrote:Wheels within wheels.

    Seen one ring, seen em all.

    Met one muppet, met em all.


    OKEY DOORKEY,
    As our expert RING prof, please describe the ring.

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    Post by jofo Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:27 am

    yawwwwwwn...is it over yet?
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    Post by Foresaperire Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:41 am

    Smelly El Chivo wrote:It’s all wonderfully funny.

    That is the only reason I have any hope left.

    Because when you boil humans down, we re fun and joyful and artistic and lazy and wonderfully curious.

    We are the AI created by the genes maybe.

    And we can override our maker.

    Our creations will override us.

    Dan doesn’t like being artificial.

    He doesn’t like being a gene machine.

    Dan thinks he’s smarter than dumb genes who made his brain to spread themselves.

    Maybe genes have planned to take us multi-dimensional since the beginning.


    Now we're jamming Basketball
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Jan 21, 2021 12:33 pm

    hobbit wrote:
    Smelly El Chivo wrote:Wheels within wheels.

    Seen one ring, seen em all.

    Met one muppet, met em all.


    OKEY DOORKEY,
    As our expert RING prof, please describe the ring.

    Hobbit( why did I choose this name?)

    Describe yourself.
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    Post by hobbit Thu Jan 21, 2021 12:51 pm

    Smelly El Chivo wrote:
    hobbit wrote:
    Smelly El Chivo wrote:Wheels within wheels.

    Seen one ring, seen em all.

    Met one muppet, met em all.


    OKEY DOORKEY,
    As our expert RING prof, please describe the ring.

    Hobbit( why did I choose this name?)

    Describe yourself.

    Thats a total cop out.

    I am a 71 year old male that lives in the shires of England.

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