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Who's Disclosure is Disclosure?

Sun Apr 14, 2019 2:16 am by Cyrellys

The narrative war is in full swing. When there's a 100 different competing narratives, how is it possible to discern a disclosure?

Is it akin to which truth is Truth?




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    Post by dan Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:29 am

    First topic message reminder :

    Bjc could stand for lots of things.  It’s possible to suppose that it stands Baltimore Junior College.  It’s possible to suppose that c stands for chick, which is short for chicken.  

    Talk about a pink slip, yesterday, puts me in mind of being laid off, which puts me in mind of a retrospective.........

    And a topic header does require at least ten characters.......

    The allotted length for a thread is 40 pages...... giving us a chance to take the occasional breather...... as the show goes on.


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    Post by Araneidae Mon Nov 23, 2020 9:05 am

    Pick up a shoe and screw on a pew
    To build a house raw is to open a few
    You might wander a little and fall to the side
    But to bicker with the flicker is to change the channel
    FAIL to press enter is a question for November
    Didn't you ask who would remember?


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    Post by dan Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:25 am

    Aran,

    I do attend to your infrequent missives, although they do remain just beyond my meager grasp.  

    Don’t give up, orb weaver.


    The I Am might best be seen as an orb weaver....... spinning her not always so tender trap.

    Aran once asked for whom the bell 🔔 cohered. It coheres for both the spider and the fly.


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    Post by Big Bunny Love Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:20 pm

    It is known that the senses are used by the mind to make inferences about our environment and guesses the world.

    You can prove this with some exercises demonstrating the blind spots in our sight and how the mind infers the missing parts.

    The mind is guessing about what is around us.

    Our mind fills in lots of our sense data, amplifies it making inferences.

    We only sense a ‘web’ of signs around us that the mind infers reality from.

    How is noumena connected to this sense data?

    The sense world works following the laws of physics.

    What laws does the noumena seem to demonstrate?

    What is real?

    What my thinking does not effect?

    So we never see or experience reality, we only have inferences of inferences.

    We are literally guessing and we stick with what works.

    Freedom, immortality, justice.

    These are human conceptions, metaphysics.

    So the above is the pragmatic attempt to solve Kant’s problems.

    An attempt to do away with the mystical.

    But not so fast.

    The noumena ain’t going quietly without a fight.

    If someone loses their balance inside, they are likely to struggle in the sense world maybe.

    And muppets speak of certainty based on inferences?!

    I don’t know, this all humbles me.

    What can we really know if all the world is a projection, like a computer desktop?

    In a fractal world I guess inference engines make sense.

    One comes to the fire 🔥 in the temple crawling on your belly like a snake 🐍

    What distinguishes a person from a word?
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    Post by Big Bunny Love Tue Nov 24, 2020 12:19 am

    I am helpless before you Dan, as I can’t transform you into what you already are, nor you I.

    We are ‘approximations’ of being.

    Maybe we are some finely engineered wet tech.

    Doesn’t matter.

    The task as I see it Mr. Relativist is to work out some balance between my inner sense of being, the physical sense world and our meta-narrative within it.

    Not to understand it or define it or work it out with a pencil, but simply to go on with the show, no?

    I can’t think we will ever pass that mystical abyssal wall within accept in our imaginations.

    We will feel this anxiety being in time and hopefully learn to live with it and then the approximation is returned to whence it came I guess.

    That means you die.

    No Jesus died and validated my life before a god.

    It just isn’t true in any sense.

    It’s just another untrue grand narrative.

    It’s a total misunderstanding of where and who and how we are.

    It’s so fucking cowardly and inauthentic to plead to one’s gods.

    Rise to meet them, don’t beg for help. Die with a nod, not a scream.

    We are here being and that monotheism stuff is all nonsense.

    It’s a kaleidoscope baby.

    I am not a person or individual, I just pretend to be a me to get supplies to live, I am what I am and I do what I do.

    It doesn’t matter what I think about it, but that I let thinking do not do.

    Being is not nothing, it’s something.

    I’m not going to make a federal case about the muppets’ beliefs because they are mostly insane.

    I can’t keep up and uproot my own beliefs fast enough, I can police the beliefs of others?!

    It does take courage to let one’s questions and answers dissolve into silence.

    Chivo is disturbing silence.

    But silence is much more powerful that my words and I know this.

    Words may be the same as persons.

    But words can’t express the ineffable we know.

    So words are not all of it.

    Words produce concepts and many words produce many concepts.

    Silence eats individuals and persons. Silence is not nothing and we are the expressions of it.

    How does formless silence wear a mask of form?

    There is no transmitter, no one to receive the transmission and nothing to receive.
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    Post by dan Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:11 am

    Poor Chivo 🐐,

    How he struggles.  

    He just can’t imagine how, in the best possible world 🌎, every sincerely held belief could be given its proper due.  

    How can we have God without God?  

    In the best possible world, we have the amalgam of our higher selves.  

    How can we pray to an amalgam?

    Our prayers are an essential part of that amalgam.  

    And don’t forget the I Am.  

    And don’t forget bjc........ Baltimore junior college.  

    I pray to bjc every day....... the bguy, the jguy and the cguy.  

    And, of course, to the cosmic mother........ who might be the I Am...... the mgal.



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    Post by GSB Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:23 am

    The other day a random thought bubble popped up from the subliminal depths that donny had been indicted.


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    Post by dan Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:28 am

    Gary,

    I don’t think so, and I hope not.

    As late as this morning, foot 🦶 is expecting a November surprise, today or tomorrow, and, away from the dark web, it will show up first on OANN....... later in the week.  

    donny and foot are out on the south lawn, waiting for the sky to fall. I guess that little chick 🐥 should be there in spirit.



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    Post by hobbit Tue Nov 24, 2020 9:04 am

    dan wrote:Gary,

    I don’t think so, and I hope not.

    As late as this morning, foot 🦶 is expecting a November surprise, today or tomorrow, and, away from the dark web, it will show up first on OANN....... later in the week.  

    donny and foot are out on the south lawn, waiting for the sky to fall.  I guess that little chick 🐥 should be there in spirit.  



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    Dan,
    You keep waffling on about the J guy, but what about His opposite....the D guy?

    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=klaus+schwab+great+reset&&view=detail&mid=4DD2EAFD327553DF457D4DD2EAFD327553DF457D&rvsmid=67A187B7C217CFC15C2A67A187B7C217CFC15C2A&FORM=VDQVAP

    Ziz klaus would be My idea of the devil, with Gates a close second ( oh He's Your buddy though???)

    He will kick Your constitution in the ballocks.


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    Post by U Tue Nov 24, 2020 9:20 am

    Channeled from the cybersphere.

    https://www.oann.com/trump-campaign-continues-to-fight-as-more-evidence-of-voter-fraud-emerges/
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    Post by Big Bunny Love Tue Nov 24, 2020 10:22 am

    dan wrote:Poor Chivo 🐐,

    How he struggles.  

    He just can’t imagine how, in the best possible world 🌎, every sincerely held belief could be given its proper due.  

    How can we have God without God?  

    In the best possible world, we have the amalgam of our higher selves.  

    How can we pray to an amalgam?

    Our prayers are an essential part of that amalgam.  

    And don’t forget the I Am.  

    And don’t forget bjc........ Baltimore junior college.  

    I pray to bjc every day....... the bguy, the jguy and the cguy.  

    And, of course, to the cosmic mother........ who might be the I Am...... the mgal.  



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    Sincere belief = sincere delusion.

    Most are filled with prejudice, a side effect of belief.

    You remember what Diogenes did to Plato don’t you, he plucked a chicken naked to show we don’t know what we are.

    Don’t pray, silence your lips, stand up, dry your tears.

    On your knees, praying, unworthy of life and your mind and body.

    It is belief that has no place at the table, none at all.

    This is immanent.

    You are here happening.

    My struggling days are way behind me friend.

    I have no future I grasp.

    Today, I’m having fun.

    Things happen as they need to to keep things moving.

    My body is preparing for my death.

    Everyday I weaken a little more.

    I await my redemption.

    Who should I pray to or what?

    This is hella fun being in life.

    Tears?

    Fears?

    Tears for Fears!

    I’m a dead man at play.

    I am invited to taste all the golden fruit.

    It is just laid out before me every morning.

    The daimons go and come and bringing their treasures before me.

    I share my bounty.

    I want nothing from anyone.

    I only point to the amazing lightness of being.

    It is not a burden, my god, this is a revelation.

    And you can’t see it!

    You really can’t.

    I see now, you sweet old man, you simply don’t know at all what I mean.

    That’s ok.

    I am generous with this.

    I am laughing with this.

    I am not crying 😭

    Boo hoo

    It is bubbling bubbling bubbling.

    No nets, no gods, no problems.

    Words about this will always end in circles.

    But it is fun to draw circles in the sand while I await my body’s death.

    You are gonna be taking a dirt nap most likely a lot sooner than I will.

    Bahahahahahaha

    Tell me what it’s like Dan being dead when you get there.

    Put a good word in for me.

    I’ll be smiling back at you.

    Enjoy.

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    Post by U Tue Nov 24, 2020 11:02 am

    That's so weird, I was just thinking about that song.

    It's one of my all time favs Wink
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    Post by Big Bunny Love Tue Nov 24, 2020 4:06 pm

    Some good pointers...

    "Those who rely on words,
    trying to strike the moon with a stick, scratching a
    shoe because they have an itchy place on the foot,
    what concern have they with reality?"

    "He said one day to his monks, “The supreme thing is like the spark from a struck flint, a flash of lightning; whether you grasp it or not, you cannot avoid becoming a corpse and losing your life.,> A certain monk asked, “If a man really grasps it, will he also lose his life, or not?” Hofuku said, “Leaving aside the previous question, have you yourself grasped it, or not?” The monk answered, “If I hadn’t grasped it, how could I avoid being laughed at by everybody?” Hofuku said, “Bright fellow! Bright fellow!” The monk said, “What’s the idea?” Hof uku said, “You’ve had a dipperful of urine thrown in your face, and yet you don’t know it stinks !’’

    The important thing in Zen, as in humour, and love (at first sight) and poetry (intuition), is speed. If we can always be quicker than (any foolish) thought or emotion, this is to be always in Paradise. Hofuku, to prevent dichotomous thinking, says that whatever you do, however fast or slow you may be, it's no good anyway; death and Hell are your portion. The monk then asks, “How about an enlightened man?” Hof uku will not deal with hypothetical cases, and asks, “How about you; are you enlightened or not?, The monk answers facetiously, but expresses his actual feeling in the matter; his answer has some Zen, that is, some humour in it, and Hofuku praises him for it. However, when the monk asks him whether he is praising or blaming him, Hofuku says, 'Blaming, of course, you conceited booby.'"

    I like the zen, they are always laughing and farting on relativity balancing on the head of a pin.
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    Post by Big Bunny Love Tue Nov 24, 2020 4:11 pm

    U wrote:That's so weird, I was just thinking about that song.

    It's one of my all time favs Wink

    It happens.

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    Post by U Tue Nov 24, 2020 9:18 pm

    Araneidae wrote:Pick up a shoe and screw on a pew
    To build a house raw is to open a few
    You might wander a little and fall to the side
    But to bicker with the flicker is to change the channel
    FAIL to press enter is a question for November
    Didn't you ask who would remember?

    I thought about whatever this thing is too recently.

    I remember it.

    Kind of weird huh?



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    Post by dan Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:16 am

    1820z........

    Perhaps the key to the small world is to be found in the stories it’s made of.  

    These are our stories.  

    Then there is the story of all the stories.  

    That is essential for any of our stories to make sense.


    1950.........

    Poor Chivo and donny, they don’t have any stories ..... they have no vision.  

    Even Buddha had a story........ but he really wasn’t supposed to.  

    Everyone has a story, even if they don’t want to.  

    What are we without stories? We are not persons.



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    Post by Foot Mann Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:23 pm

    One must see to perceive vision. The Chicken is blind. No time for transition. He has no mind.
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    Post by Big Bunny Love Thu Nov 26, 2020 10:51 am

    I am very thankful for my life and my coming death.

    “We bring the past into the 1000 eyed present.”

    Truly, we are all blind, who can admit it?

    Those who let their vision be pierced by love.  

    We only know an inference of reality.

    We are all guessing.

    The fool claims truth.

    Bang bang bang

    These days, I only really value sincerity considering the illusion we move within.

    Left Foot, seeing is only an approximation of this.

    You can’t trust your senses, realizing this is true seeing and true perceiving.

    A goat knows more than you and all your Phds by not knowing this.

    I would guess you have no idea what I mean.

    I would be happy to be surprised.

    I love surprises.

    Life doesn’t seem to have many surprises in light of death.

    Careful how much you perceive, you can spoil the game looking too deeply.

    Just enough is good enough for ole smelly el chivo.

    You know what’s weird Dan, I notice how certain philosophers changed in their life over time. I notice how I have appeared to change over time, but only the ghostly parts. The best were kind and humorous. I think the heart broken ego is the most vicious. The self hating become shadows of themselves. Why this progression from ignorance to despair to bliss to ease back to being?

    Why all the fuss and matter?

    I guess I ask the same question we always have.

    I am the answer to that question.

    Damn.

    You all take er easy.
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    Post by dan Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:28 am

    Well, if there is a truth, it must be personal and it must pertain to a small world.  

    Science could possess the facts.  I believe that it does have a plethora of correct facts.  

    But science can only try to save the appearances.

    It can try to tell how things happen, but can’t say why.  

    It operates on the premise of a sequence of mechanical causes and effects.  

    Teleology, for instance, does not figure in its explanatory scheme.  



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    Post by Big Bunny Love Fri Nov 27, 2020 12:34 pm

    If you fight this, you lose.

    If you fight others, you lose.

    If you fight yourself, you lose.

    How many times do you have to lose to learn, quite a bit, this to me explains life.

    Don’t be a loser.

    You’re a winner.

    Take er easy everyone.
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    Post by Big Bunny Love Fri Nov 27, 2020 12:52 pm

    dan wrote:Well, if there is a truth, it must be personal and it must pertain to a small world.  

    Science could possess the facts.  I believe that it does have a plethora of correct facts.  

    But science can only try to save the appearances.

    It can try to tell how, but can’t say why.  

    It operates on the premise of a sequence of mechanical causes and effects.  

    Teleology, for instance, does not figure in its explanatory scheme.  



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    I have removed must from my vocabulary.

    Nothing must, this is.

    Fight it and lose.

    This is where the terms cancel out.

    There is no answer.

    You can’t and never will have the right set of concepts.

    You are just guessing and abstracting.

    This is living and being.

    These words don’t matter at all.

    But we still scratch out our symbols.

    Saving the appearances is smashing the idols.

    It is very difficult until it isn’t to make it beyond good and evil.

    In silence I find no belief or meaning.

    We are not meant to be silent and without meaning, we just start and end there.

    We need a focus.

    "Opposition is impossible because postmodern culture has no boundaries to push against; it is tantamount to pushing against smoke. Further, the acting subject is equally as amorphous. Thus, according to Baudrillard, there’s little place in postmodernity to grab ahold of and make a difference. Most things turn out to be innuendo, smoke, spam, mistakes ... a smooth surface of meaninglessness and seduction. Baudrillard leaves us with a few responses: play, spectacle, and passivity."
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    Post by dan Sat Nov 28, 2020 6:00 pm

    We are composed of atoms and stories.  

    I don’t take atoms seriously........ their being is suspect.  

    They provide a very clever residue of our lives....... of our life stories.  

    They provide the frame for our lives....... the warp and woof, but not the substance or sustenance.  

    Our lives are of the Logos.  Yes, we must feed our heads.  

    The feeding of our bellies is our common currency....... our lingua Franca.  And, of course, we do not live by bread 🍞 alone.  

    The existentialist will say that we are thrown onto this stage..... where we compose our own stories.  

    This is the modern story.  



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    Post by dan Sun Nov 29, 2020 7:41 am

    1440z.......

    I have been stressing the I Am aspect of cosmology, but that is not a very ecological way of looking at it.  

    We are very used to having an Alpha without an Omega....... Big Bang modernists that we are.  

    But, if there is a Logos, the Metanarrative must be lurking close by.  

    How can there be words without a story?  

    Am I saying that the I Am, like Athena, sprang from the Abyss fully formed?

    In a word....... yes.  

    From whence did the Mandelbrot spring?

    Wait, doesn’t the Mandelbrot prove the objectivity of the infinite?

    In what sense do the unobserved aspects of the Mandelbrot exist?


    2130.........

    It seems like Chivo might be inching his way toward the BPW, but don’t hold me to it.  


    If astronomy has been set for eternity, why do we need telescopes...... can’t we scope it out in our heads?

    Without computers, we could hardly scope out the Mandelbrot.  

    I’ve said the same of telephones relative to telepathy.  

    We might as well ask why farmers need plows.  

    We could say that telescopes were invented at the same time we invented stars....... part of the epistemological/ontological ecology.  

    In the BPW there would be no distinction between epistemology and ontology..... ultimately.

    We use computers to plow through the data...... with its ‘heavy iron’.



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    Post by Big Bunny Love Sun Nov 29, 2020 10:38 am

    We are the music and the music makers in this comedic tragedy.

    One can show this to themselves, because all mirrors reality.

    I’ve been talking to myself.

    You have to follow the fractals back to their root.

    You don’t have to do anything really.

    You could just sit under a tree and just chill out until you die.

    But why enact death in life more than one needs to?

    You sit under the tree awaiting your death like an idiot and then a bird flies by and says, hey, watcha doin?

    And you shoo it away.

    The bird keeps coming back every day to you as you sit under the Bodhi trying to be Brahman.

    One day, feeling bored, you start to talk to the bird.

    Life is motion and interaction.

    Socrates preached against relativism.

    He figured opinion could be checked through dialogue.

    Really?

    I think, in his death, he found the error in his ways.

    One can show themselves everything, is there any other way, nope, but don’t take my word for anything, you have to find this yourself.

    Nothing can give you meaning outside yourself.

    Why look to the skies, while you are imploding?

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    Post by dan Mon Nov 30, 2020 5:14 am

    1210z........

    Ok, sports fans...... what’s the greatest story ever told?  

    The greatest story ever told is that my story is gonna eat your story.  

    Almost.........

    The greatest story is gonna eat the world 🌎!  

    Golly, it’s only taken me 30 years to figure this out.  

    The problem was that I couldn’t figure out the opposite of materialism.

    Yes, literally it is immaterialism, but I couldn’t put a name to it.  

    The reason I couldn’t was because the name didn’t exist.  

    The name is ‘storyism’.  

    Storyism is the opposite of atomism.  

    The Metanarrative is going to eat every other story..... and the world 🌎 along with it.

    The Metanarrative is gonna eat everyone’s lunch.  

    The Metanarrative is the not always so tender trap 🪤.  

    The opposite of materialism is idealism, by some accounts.  

    But what is an idea?  

    An idea is nothing, if it is not essential to the Logos...... if it is not uttered from/out of love 💗.  

    Or, as the bguy would say....... anatta, sunyatta.  

    The only response to sunyatta is agape.  

    Agape trumps sunyatta........ every time.  

    Agape trumps Trumpism....... before our very eyes 👀, sports fans.  

    The virus 🦠 was straight outta Compton.  

    We could call it the ‘Compton’ effect, and get away with it.  

    And that would be the only news that’s not fake news.  


    1700........

    Ok, I have to report the latest prognostication, or is provocation.......?

    There will be no Inauguration, as the election will be overturned..... presumably by the SCOTUS.  

    The voting machines will have been deemed to be compromised.  

    In the meantime, joe and kevin have been assigned to an undisclosed facility.  

    The Utah monolith was mostly made of hollow plastic...... installed for that single photo op.  

    I’m supposed to be contacting tiger jeffrey...... a one time associate of Joe Exotic...... allegedly located in Vegas.  The head of the Vegas branch of the Sinaloa, anthony, will be able to locate him.  

    jeffrey met joe F at a pool club at the lake.  jeffrey is suspected in a death at that club, but don’t hold me to it.  

    jeffrey can provide access to leopards 🐆 that will help train drone spotters for a KWF project.

    You might recall my blogging about meeting a backpacker at an Arlington luncheon for George Wingfield ~1992.  

    Later I was told that this individual disappeared 👻 on a camping trip in Glacier np.  He was found with a note 📝 in his backpack 🎒 that set off alarm bells 🔔 back in DC....... naive chick 🐥 assumed it involved an alien alien abduction.  

    I don’t recall this morning’s segue back to that story, but here is the updated version..... He got lost after a tiff with his camping partner.  The diary found in his backpack, indicating that he was not a straight shooter.  foot claims that none such are allowed in the agency...... even now, in accord with tradition.  

    One might wonder about his assignment of sitting next to me at the lunch...... and how it now came up.  

    What else do you wish to know?  

    foot is seldom at a loss for stories.  

    Neither are any of us...... especially not Chivo.  

    Even Buddhists must believe in stories.  

    Buddhism ☸ has a strong sacred tradition...... replete with stories..... but these are only meant to help us escape our mundane samsara.  



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    Post by Big Bunny Love Mon Nov 30, 2020 10:55 am

    Let there be light!

    Stories are illusions.

    That joe and Kevin have been assigned shows you their delusion.

    They are totally lost.

    That Dan thinks he’s a prophet is delusion.

    That foot thinks he has any control is complete delusion.

    They are just a bunch of crazy muppets.

    Nothing is happening to anyone.

    No one is living a life.

    Life just is.

    If one can let this be, great, if not, so what?

    All is happening.

    There isn’t anything to do about it.

    Relax.

    Have a margarita.

    This is all unconditional love.

    You just see it for what it is.

    And yuh smile at the those whose minds are moving so fast.

    So fast they don’t want to relax.

    So fast they think they can break through to other side.

    Bahahahahahahaha

    My role in the story is to tell you you have missed it and yuh all are insane.

    You will die and these delusions will die with you Wink

    This is why death happens, so god can turn the page.

    Much more fun to have a new planet of muppets every 100 years.

    Infinite novelty.

    Well, you can write your own story.

    No one wants to know this.

    It is my joy to tell you all, you are utterly full of 🐐 💩

    But you already know you are a figment.

    You know you are fart 💨

    Be the fart
    Love the fart
    Now the fart is gone

    Enjoy.

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