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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    First topic message reminder :

    This is the continuation of the Immaterialism 6 thread.......

    The original topic reminder post https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t320-immaterialism
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    Please remember to confine you dialogue to matters that are pertinent to the topic of immaterialism/disclosure.

    Thank you.
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    Post by dan Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:27 am

    Yes, I always said that smelly was smarter than he looked.

    He was deathly afraid that I was going to impose my Kingdom on muppetland.

    I am, of course, but not quite the way he feared.
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    Post by hobbit Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:30 am

    Whats mt monadnock to do with all of this?
    Been ten minutes looking up the meanings of some of those terms in Dans epic .

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    Post by dan Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:57 am

    Yes, hobbit, it’s just about time for you to start pulling your head out...... now that you no longer are being protected by smelly.


    ....... back to Anaxagoras and Aaron......

    It turns out that he Owen was wrong about appearances.....

    Our mission, should we choose to accept it, is not really about saving the appearances...... it is more about redeeming the appearances..... all the better to integrate them into the best possible world.  


    Dolan does understand that Disclosure can be controlled up until D day.  The control center is right here.  After D day....... things only get more interesting.  

    Me.....?  I’m sticking with the Princess.  


    So, what else is new........?

    99 thinks that Dolan is the cat’s pajamas on Disclosure.  

    She doesn’t realize that the cat is on the mat....... right here under her nose.  Who could possibly believe such a ridiculous thing?  

    99 and hobbit will be the last to get the memo.  AP (the person, not the principle) certainly got it.  

    Once you get it, you are allowed to walk away.  That might even be advisable....... all things considered.  


    3:50............

    It’s interesting that Abu Bakr shows up.  I believe that he’s been underfoot, all these years.  Well, I guess what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas.  

    What else is new........?  

    It does seem that things are pretty well under control.  

    Should we be more worried about Dday......?  

    When folks realize that ~10k persons have been sitting on information Omega, for decades, they will begin to realize that, yes, we, too, will be able to take it in stride........ hey, no problemo.  

    Are we gonna miss God?  

    Hey, God aims to please....... you aim, too....... please.  


    Yup, it’s all about persons....... all creation.  Should anyone have a problem with that?  Perhaps the intelligentsia will, but, guess what, I think they’ll be able to get over it, after they cry, for a few weeks, all the way to the bank, where they’ll be able to cash their pension checks.  

    The clergy is no problem....... 99% are social workers with collars turned around.  The only problem might be with fundamentalist theologians, and there sure aren’t many of them, except on YouTube debating a few lonely professional materialists.  I think they’ll be able to look out for each other.  They can tour the campuses, restaging their classic debates...... for auld lang syne.



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    Post by hobbit Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:19 pm

    Well t'old flower, thars as clear as muck.

    S'il vous plait....K.I.S.S.

    Fort simple.

    They will inherit the earth.

    Of't to top of't hill, mount monadnock, I likes limestone.

    T, hobbit
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    Post by dan Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:26 pm

    hobbit,

    We aim to please........
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    Post by hobbit Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:29 pm

    dan wrote:hobbit,

    We aim to please........
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sB3ieNhEsDY

    Lesson in't Yoksheer.

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    Post by dan Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:45 pm

    Yes, I guess I had better shut up, just about now.......
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    Post by SurfBum Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:51 pm

    lol

    K.I.S.S.

    **Muah**
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    Post by 99 Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:22 pm

    dan wrote:Yes, I guess I had better shut up, just about now.......

    I think that's a good idea.
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    Post by 99 Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:50 pm

    Once again, Cameron is my preference in terms of the Ufologist whom I agree with more often than not. My impression is that Richard Dolan's influence in the field is growing by leaps and bounds and that's OK because he has a lot of important things to say especially in the area of UFO Disclosure but for those long term members of the UFO community, Cameron is the top gun and always will be. 

    Here's his most recent video:

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    Post by 99 Mon Apr 29, 2019 6:20 pm

    "The only problem might be with fundamentalist theologians, and there sure aren’t many of them, except on YouTube debating a few lonely professional materialists." ~ dan


    Wrong. 


    According to The Pew Research Center. Evangelicals make up the most populated religious group in the US which is not surprising as after all, they played a major role in electing Trump into office. And it follows that their "theologians/clergy", out of all of the other Christian clergy and theologians out there, are the ones who are the most active on the internet and YouTube. There are also more of them than any other Christian clergy and theologians active on the internet than the other Christian clergy and theologians of other Christian denominations. 


    https://www.pewforum.org/religious-landscape-study/

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    Post by SurfBum Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:30 pm

    Go Mormons!

    Mormons are only 1.6?

    I thought we would be way more....

    My peeps need to catch up!
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    Post by 99 Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:48 pm

    Evangelicals (Fundies inclusive) do not consider Mormons "Christian".
    They don't consider Catholics "Christian" either.

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    "fundamentalist theologians, and there sure aren’t many of them"
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    Dan, I know you were being facetious when you said that. Just say'n.
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    Post by dan Tue Apr 30, 2019 1:41 am

    I know that you are trying to be helpful, here, 99, but often you’re not.  You are simply muddying the waters.  

    I was drawing a distinction between preachers and theologians.  Quite evidently, this distinction was lost on you.  I’m sorry for that, but I’m not writing these words primarily for you, 99, so, please, don’t feel compelled to chime in, each time I make a distinction that goes over your head.

    For the sake of argument, 99, you may assume that I am God, returned to Earth, after an absence of 2,000 years.  

    By some miracle, you were chosen to witness this event.  Your first role here is to observe.  Try to keep your eyes open, 99, and be holding your breath at the same time.  I do understand that some of us find this chore to be taxing.  

    Thank you..... and let us proceed.....
    ........

    In saying the above words, do understand that the basic tenet of personalism is that each one of us is an incarnation of God.  It just so happens that I am likely to be the firstest with the mostest, in this regard and at this particular juncture of history.  Let us please proceed on that assumption until a better candidate arises.

    Furthermore, please understand that, while you may be holding your breath on this account....... please forgive me that I’m not holding mine..... as all good folks come to the aid of our higher selves.  

    And let’s do allow a thousand flowers to bloom...... nay, let’s let seven billion flowers to bloom.



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    Post by vortimond Tue Apr 30, 2019 2:56 am

    Vortimond,

    I’m not trusting you to post anything to this thread, other than your own words. Please do not force me to ban you from the whole forum.

    - Dan Smith, moderator

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    Post by vortimond Tue Apr 30, 2019 5:50 am

    I don't care.
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    Post by dan Tue Apr 30, 2019 6:13 am

    I understand, sports fans, that an occupational hazard of being God, these days, is that you’re liable to get very little respect.  

    But, if seven billion flowers are to bloom, we are going to have to afford each other every possible respect, and you may start by practicing that with me, even though we all know that, deep down, we’re all chips off the same block.  

    My particular situation is just the result of a small conspiracy towards that larger end.


    Vortimond,

    I do care about you and every other person.  

    I hope that is ok with you.  

    This caring is why I am God, for now, and why you will be God as soon as you can find it within yourself to care, likewise.

    Of course, most of us already do care about other persons, but, as soon as we understand about the BPWH, we will be empowered to raise our caring games to a whole new level.  

    What has brought us to this mother of all paradigm shifts (MoAPS), is the Cosmic conspiracy ...... the Grand Deception followed by the Great Apostasy.

    There are ~10,000 people who have presently been briefed on this conspiracy.  And what you see unfolding before your eyes is the ground zero of the subsequent Disclosure.  

    The Grand Deception was the artificial appearance of Deep Space and Deep Time.

    The Great Apostasy was the modern adoption of Scientific Materialism.

    It is the existence of portals that is opening our eyes to the actual immaterialism of reality. This dreamscape was created by us, for us. Why? Because we care.


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    Post by SurfBum Tue Apr 30, 2019 6:53 am

    7 billion flowers will bloom in the twinkling of an eye
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    Post by dan Tue Apr 30, 2019 6:56 am

    Amen, Brother!


    The cosmic irony is that the portals are awakening us to the reality of our Dream.

    Sweet Dream...... Home, sweet Home!


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    Post by SurfBum Tue Apr 30, 2019 6:58 am

    We are the apple of Gods eye

    Ground zero is a good place to get your hard hats on

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    Post by dan Tue Apr 30, 2019 7:10 am

    Yes, the portals that have been dropped on our head by the Princess, are reminiscent of the apple that was dropped on Newton’s head, thereby dispatching all of us, moderns, into our subsequent slumber of materialism.

    It’s time, now, for us to wake up and smell the cosmic coffee.

    And, yes, remember to wear your hard hats, because the sky will definitely be falling on our little noggins...... ouch!

    And, if I’m reading my notes right, the sky will be falling especially hard on every tin horn dictator, from here to Timbuktu.

    A word to the wise, donny, you might want to come in out of the hailstorm...... ouch, again!


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    Post by vortimond Tue Apr 30, 2019 7:23 am

    7 billion Gods is just another illusion. All is one. And the one doesn't care.
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    Post by dan Tue Apr 30, 2019 7:30 am

    Vortimond,

    It does sound as though you’ve copped a page out of smelly’s book.  

    smelly’s book has some merit, seeing as how our Fate has already been written in the stars.

    Even if we all went on a sit down strike, the sky would still be falling on our heads.  

    Me.......?  I just like to sing about it.  

    Please, don’t mind my singing...... hear.....

    And don’t forget, it’s all just news from nowhere.


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    Post by SurfBum Tue Apr 30, 2019 7:37 am

    Of course it cares

    Why is there something rather than nothing?

    because it cares

    If you try to cut persons out of the equation you are left with nothing

    If that’s where you stand then you would have to be silent

    You post here because you care

    Caring is natural

    Nature cares



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    Post by vortimond Tue Apr 30, 2019 7:43 am

    We had two towers in New York, but those towers went down and now there is only one. It's all about freedom really. It is something that can't be shared.

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