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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:51 am

    First topic message reminder :

    This is the continuation of the Immaterialism 6 thread.......

    The original topic reminder post https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t320-immaterialism
    should be substituted here......

    Please remember to confine you dialogue to matters that are pertinent to the topic of immaterialism/disclosure.

    Thank you.
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    Post by hobbit Thu May 09, 2019 11:04 am

    I don't read such as this link, I scan fast and stop where I sense to.
    http://falundafa.org/eng/eng/pdf/Zhuan-Falun-2018.pdf
    This is fabulous...
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu May 09, 2019 11:23 am

    wk, your personal preferences are irrelevant.

    I don’t discriminate.

    I have no position to defend or questions or answer.

    I don’t delude my self, it takes effort and seeking to do so.

    I resonate with his talk.

    Live honestly.

    Are you?

    Who knows or cares.

    I suffer delusion with a smile, as I do with my life, the ultimate delusion.

    As I do my deluded family and friends and coworkers and culture.

    Surrounded by a myriad of delusions.

    You can cry and scream, but that takes effort.

    Smile like you mean it.
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    Post by whoknows Thu May 09, 2019 11:31 am

    smelly wrote:Who knows or cares.

    Not I.

    Then why do you even respond.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu May 09, 2019 1:16 pm

    It was just a general comment applied to everyone.

    You aren’t special.

    ...

    Chuang Tzu with his bamboo pole was fishing in the Pu river. The prince of Chu sent two vice-chancellors with a formal document: We hereby appoint you prime minister.

    Chuang Tzu held his bamboo pole still.Watching the Pu river, he said:“I am told there is a sacred tortoise offered and canonized three thousand years ago,venerated by the prince, wrapped in silk,in a precious shrine on an altar in the temple.

    What do you think? Is it better to give up one’s life and leave a sacred shell as an object of cult in a cloud of incense for three thousand years,or to live as a plain turtle dragging its tail in the mud?”

    “For the turtle”, said the vice-chancellor,“better to live and drag its tail in the mud!”

    “Go home!”, said Chuang Tzu.“Leave me here to drag my tail in the mud.”  

    http://www.osholeela.com/poetry/chuangtzu/

    Taoists see the way like this.

    It is very simple.
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    Post by U Thu May 09, 2019 11:22 pm

    hobbit wrote:If You use google …..look up NINE gods of the underworld, or better still many references to nine.

    The trees know better than humans.

    Nine flows of consciousness.

    hobbit

    U slithers his way back in:

    As for THE NINE,

    http://metaphysicalarticles.blogspot.com/2017/07/the-nine-and-new-age.html?m=1


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri May 10, 2019 12:32 am

    All of the gods are cons and liars as well as Captain Spoonbender.

    It’s easy to see through them.

    If you shine the light on them, it shines right through.

    Smelly farted on the nine when they spoke to him and immediately he was enlightened and God in these parts.

    He quit though and gave some old man the title.

    No gods here to be found anymore, they seem to have departed looking for other deluded muppets.

    Someone asked, "Going straight on the path-what is that like?"

    Joshu said, "Going straight on the path.”


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    Post by U Fri May 10, 2019 12:37 am

    S T R A I G H T

    O N
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri May 10, 2019 12:39 am

    To nowhere and nothing.

    To the delusional, that’s terrifying.

    Good.

    Quake in your muppet boots.

    If you don’t care, welcome.

    “Relax, no one is getting out of here alive.”
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    Post by U Fri May 10, 2019 12:43 am

    Somewhere

    Something


    Nowhere


    Nothing



    What's the difference?
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri May 10, 2019 12:51 am

    It’s all HERE!

    Flap and wave your arms and make a racket if you like.

    Here...just being.
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    Post by whoknows Fri May 10, 2019 8:23 am

    smelly wrote:It was just a general comment applied to everyone.

    I found resonance with the quote I posted, nothing more.

    You on the other hand did seem to take it personally, I mean after all your post was directed to me.

    Where as mine was not directed towards anyone. If anything I think I was thinking of Dan's post when I posted that quote and comment.

    Sorry "Dude," your judgment was misplaced again.

    You aren’t special either. On the other hand, I've never felt I needed to denigrate others to boost my ego or for any other reason.
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    Post by dan Fri May 10, 2019 8:31 am

    wk,

    I don’t think smelly is quite as dumb as he looks.......
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri May 10, 2019 8:32 am

    whoknows wrote:
    smelly wrote:It was just a general comment applied to everyone.

    I found resonance with the quote I posted, nothing more.

    You on the other hand did seem to take it personally, I mean after all your post was directed to me.

    Where as mine was not directed towards anyone. If anything I think I was thinking of Dan's post when I posted that quote and comment.

    Sorry "Dude," your judgment was misplaced again.

    You aren’t special either. On the other hand, I've never felt I needed to denigrate others to boost my ego or for any other reason.

    Dan wk is the most defensive one I’ve come across here.

    I really tweaked him.

    His jealousy seethes.

    I love it.

    Keep it up inauthentic moron.
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    Post by whoknows Fri May 10, 2019 8:35 am

    LOL
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri May 10, 2019 3:47 pm

    Maybe have a thicker skin wk.

    See through things.

    You can’t be this stupid or maybe you are.

    You are the easiest target on OMF because you are lying.

    I know you are deluding yourself.

    I can smell it.

    You keep being delusional, I’ll keep bashing you with my stupid stick.

    Don’t come back or be authentic.

    I won’t stop while you persist being stupid.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri May 10, 2019 6:17 pm

    Here I engage in Dharma Combat.

    I took on a pseudo Disclosure and won.

    I have wasted every muppet moron who stepped into the ring with me.

    I am the greatest!

    Few pick up on the game.

    Wk definitely doesn’t.

    Dan is something else.

    He fights me.

    I fight him.

    We sharpen each other.

    If you get in the way you get minced.

    No one can match me here.

    Let the muppet show themselves who stand in their true nature.

    And I will fart.

    That’s how we greet each other.

    We speak to each other illogically.

    No one has any thing to teach.

    So we beat the shit out of each other’s appearances.

    Fun, huh?

    Pffffft

    You can throw me out.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri May 10, 2019 6:40 pm

    So everything we know, is a product of the mind, even mind itself.

    They found this long ago.

    It is hinted at by many.

    It is hidden from the moron.

    Anything that descriminates and supports preference is not real.

    Dualism.

    Dualism dualism dualism.

    You like the this, you don’t like this.

    Is bullshit!

    That I is just a Dream.

    Others may teach you to bark like a dog, but zen will bite you on all fours.

    Wuf Wuf
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    Post by SurfBum Fri May 10, 2019 7:37 pm

    I can match you

    Bark bark bark

    Easy peasy
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri May 10, 2019 9:37 pm

    Pfffffftttttt!!!

    Not even worth the attempt...

    Weeble wobble.



    Look...dem weebeles wobble.
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    Post by SurfBum Fri May 10, 2019 11:35 pm

    True

    Not worth the attempt...

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    Post by dan Fri May 10, 2019 11:40 pm

    If you cling to your life, you will lose it; but if you give up your life for me, you will find it.

    This is dharma combat.

    I lost my wallet on the train on Thursday.  Yesterday, I obtained my RealID from the state of Maryland.  And now smelly teaches us about dharma combat.  

    In the meantime, we all struggle for our sanity.  

    This is something they don’t quite teach in dharma combat....
    the eternal and inherent nature of reality, regarded in Hinduism as a cosmic law underlying right behavior and social order.
    Hmmm......

    Need a ufologist concern himself with the underlying nature of reality?

    Need anyone?  Need smelly?  

    We are people who need people.  

    Modern man lost his soul to science.  

    We gave up our souls for truth’s sake.

    Someone must incarnate Truth, to give them back to you.  

    Is it any wonder that scientists struggle to grasp Truth.  

    There is just one hitch. I only have one soul to give back to you.

    You all will have to share.


    (cont.......)
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    Post by hobbit Sat May 11, 2019 12:51 am

    U wrote:
    hobbit wrote:If You use google …..look up NINE gods of the underworld, or better still many references to nine.

    The trees know better than humans.

    Nine flows of consciousness.

    hobbit

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    As for THE NINE,

    http://metaphysicalarticles.blogspot.com/2017/07/the-nine-and-new-age.html?m=1


    D O N T    K N O W

    Thanks for that link.

    Having had three way conversations with myself ( physical 3D, local field in 4D and etheric 5D) I can concur with much in that link.

    Hobbit thrice.
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    Post by whoknows Sat May 11, 2019 8:12 am

    I was thinking about civilization last night. One of the roots of the word is, civilis.

    (figuratively) Courteous, polite, civil, affable, urbane.
    (substantive) courtesy, civility.

    Seems to me we have fallen back to barbarism.
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    Post by dan Sun May 12, 2019 6:26 am

    Yes, in as much as we are losing our faith in the future, we are falling back into our default mode of existence, which is tribalism.
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