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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    First topic message reminder :

    This is the continuation of the Immaterialism 6 thread.......

    The original topic reminder post https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t320-immaterialism
    should be substituted here......

    Please remember to confine you dialogue to matters that are pertinent to the topic of immaterialism/disclosure.

    Thank you.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Apr 26, 2019 11:49 am

    Death is smiling in the flower

    A tragic beauty

    If you might be around

    Upon my death

    Please stoke my bones

    In the flames they burn in

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    Post by SurfBum Fri Apr 26, 2019 11:55 am

    I don't want to drive or fly all the way to cali just to stoke your bones

    But can you have Marisa send me your teeth when you get old and die?

    I'll make a necklace with them and wear them while dancing around a fire under a full moon with drums beating

    Then I'll channel root node and reanimate you in the flames

    How's that for stoking your bones?

    **stoke stoke**

    does the stoker tickle?
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:11 pm

    It was a general poem, anyone nearby can stoke them.

    In Tibet, your body is put on a mountain for the vultures to eat.

    I like that.

    I was shopping for urns today.

    It is very interesting, you can take out funeral loans to cover your death, hahahahaha.

    I found some dude making custom art from ashes.

    I can plant myself in an orchard.

    I want them to get a nice fine ash.

    I think there are some independent natural services where they burn you in a wood fire.

    I'd love to have my friends and family over for a funeral BBQ, I will not be on the menu.

    But it should be a fun party at least.

    I hope someone reads at least one poem and a little music.

    Maybe I will write my best stuff during an eclipse over time, but maybe I just want to get...

    BAM!!!

    Shrug.

    Straight on.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:49 pm

    All my words are lies
    I am a dung patty
    Put me on the fire
    And I may yet provide
    A little useful warmth

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    Post by SurfBum Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:56 pm

    dung burns pretty good
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:59 pm

    burn
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Apr 26, 2019 2:01 pm

    Ashes and Dung

    Good death metal band name.

    Anyone want to start a death metal cult?
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    Post by SurfBum Fri Apr 26, 2019 2:24 pm

    the purpose of gardens is gardens

    anyone want to start a garden cult?

    Happy Flower Power
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Apr 26, 2019 2:38 pm

    I worship at the
    Altar of nature
    In every breath
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    Post by SurfBum Fri Apr 26, 2019 2:54 pm

    *heavy panting*
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    Post by SurfBum Fri Apr 26, 2019 6:23 pm

    jofo wrote:it's fun to watch humans put a toe in the "flow" when you're free to just dive straight in


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    Post by GSB/SSR Sat Apr 27, 2019 6:12 am

    We simply drop the usual positivistic philosophical baggage and look at the equations: in particular
    we stop pretending that particles don’t exist when no-one is looking at them. To do this, change the
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    Post by dan Sat Apr 27, 2019 6:55 am

    Yes, Gary,

    Thanks for reminding us of Bohm......

    Jack Sarfatti was a Bohm aficionado.  Using Bohm, Jack was going to explain consciousness..... until he didn’t.  

    Bohm eventually saw the light.  Jack has not.

    Pilot wave mechanics is much more convoluted that Newtonian mechanics.  Bohm eventually admitted that pilot waves were over the top, ontologically, and had to be replaced by an implicate order.  

    The implicate order is a Jungian archetypal realm applied to the collective unconscious...... the noumena.  

    The original Bohmian mechanics is a mathematical model gone berserk....... it is explicitly non local.

    There is nothing wrong with non local, but it makes more sense in the realm of consciousness than in any arbitrarily objectified world.  

    But the young Bohm is not my problem...... real physicists don’t take him seriously.  

    My problem is smelly.........

    smelly is playing hard to get.  

    smelly is exploring the final hangout for the non believers.  Aaron is his confederate in the land of Oz....... where smelly tries to cut off his own head.  

    smelly claims that he cannot be labeled...... that he has transcended beyond all labels.  He cannot be corralled..... he is beyond the sky.  

    smelly is welcome to transcend the Logos.  But then he must remain silent.  smelly doesn’t know how to shut his mouth...... that is his fatal flaw.  

    As long as someone is talking, they belong to me..... the spirit of the truth. Too bad, smelly...... your fate is sealed..... along with the fate of the rest of us.



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    Post by SurfBum Sat Apr 27, 2019 8:06 am

    I am no one's confederate

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    Post by dan Sat Apr 27, 2019 8:14 am

    You are a little bit weak minded, and smelly is smarter than you.  

    He is using you to help obfuscate the Truth.

    smelly believes himself to be a master obfuscator.  

    He may well be, but you don’t want to bring a knife to a gunfight.  

    It is true that smelly has no sense of shame, unlike most folks, so that does make him a harder nut to crack.  

    I recognize that there are a lot of folks out there who will not wish to kiss my feet.  smelly is Everyman, in that sense.  

    If I can crack smelly, I can crack the world.  Isn’t that right, Aaron?  

    Here’s a label....... smelly is an iconoclast.  As a child, smelly had icons rubbed in his face.  He was abused with icons..... with idols.... with golden calves.  

    He’s not about to let that happen again.  

    What he cannot quite get through his little noggin is that I’m a fellow traveling iconoclast....... that’s why I will also be perceived as the Antichrist...... because I’m just about to take down the Big Boy.

    IOW, I’m about to rationalize Jesus.

    Obfuscation is a very dull knife. The Logos is a very sharp sword..... and I’m about to wield it against Jesus.



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    Post by SurfBum Sat Apr 27, 2019 8:37 am

    If you try and crack nuts with your teeth the nutcrackers will have nothing to do
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    Post by dan Sat Apr 27, 2019 8:46 am

    Exactly...... I am putting every labor saving device right out of business.

    There is no shortcut back to the Monad...... all paths lead through Jesus.  Wrt to Jesus, you have two choices....... you can either believe or rationalize...... you just can’t deny.

    smelly and 80% of the world think they can deconstruct Jesus...... that they can smash that Idol. They have another think coming.



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    Post by SurfBum Sat Apr 27, 2019 8:54 am



    Who has a date with Jesus?

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    Post by dan Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:01 am

    Every last one of us does, Aaron.

    Every last one of us has a date with the SoT, and the SoT points to the jguy........ I’m just the gofer for the jguy.


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    Post by SurfBum Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:06 am

    And what about Buddha?

    Do we swipe left or swipe right for Buddha?
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    Post by dan Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:08 am

    Buddha who........?  

    I never heard of her.  

    Oh, wait....... that one.....

    That one...... he’s a minor actor in the greatest story ever told.

    His main claim to fame will be as the one who led smelly astray.  

    Wait, again....... maybe I can be a bit more generous.......

    He led smelly into immaterialism. Immaterialism got smelly halfway back to the Monad...... but close only counts in horseshoes, and we’re not playing horseshoes.



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    Post by SurfBum Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:15 am

    Dan is just the best possible used car salesmen in a very small world.
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    Post by dan Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:18 am

    Aaron,

    There are smarter folks than you who will be reading this blog.  

    I’m writing for them.

    Eventually you will be led to understand...... but you will have to be led...... as you have been led by the Princess and smelly.  

    You are trying to drink out of a fire hose..... it is not recommended.



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    Post by SurfBum Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:23 am

    I’m not writing for anyone, true



    ......


    Wait no, I forgot....zen makes it easy

    I don’t have to choose if I’m writing for anyone or not

    I can write for both and neither at the same time

    Happy Flower Power

    I would put zen donkey Joshu up against Jesus any day of the week.


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    Post by dan Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:32 am

    You are taking up some high rent bandwidth.

    If you have nothing to say....... why don’t you say nothing....... just a suggestion......

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