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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    First topic message reminder :

    This is the continuation of the Immaterialism 6 thread.......

    The original topic reminder post https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t320-immaterialism
    should be substituted here......

    Please remember to confine you dialogue to matters that are pertinent to the topic of immaterialism/disclosure.

    Thank you.
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    Post by SurfBum Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:10 pm

    Jung was not messing around

    He got out of the way so the Powerful One could come and cut through all the entanglements with a sword
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    Post by SurfBum Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:49 pm

    https://terebess.hu/zen/Chao-chouHoffman.pdf

    wow

    okay

    Joshu happens

    Joshu detests abstract concepts such as "the Way," "the
    Truth," or "Buddha." When still a young monk, he asks his master
    Nansen for "the Way." Nansen replies that "The moment you aim
    at anything, you have already missed it." Many years later, when a
    young monk came from far away to ask Joshu for his "teaching,"
    Joshu replies, "You have just entered the gate. Well then, let me
    spit in your face."

    If you run across Joshu and he spits in your face.....

    happy happy joy joy
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Apr 25, 2019 8:09 pm

    The natural state.

    Suspension of all judgment.

    Not liking or disliking anything.

    No names for any thing.

    There is nothing you are supposed to do.

    You just receive the buzz of life.

    A person of Tao unlearns every day.

    Until you arrive at non-doing.

    Rest in this awareness.

    It’s just about the most soft feeling.

    Floaty.

    Primordial.

    Like a warmness oozing over you.

    The words the words.

    The flow of things.

    No names here or prophets or visions.

    Just being.

    What use is this to the world?

    This is being with life.

    I didn’t learn anything.

    There is just nothing between you and the happening.

    Using models is poisonous to mind.

    That poison spills everywhere.

    Imagination can be terrible and innocent.

    The background of life is silence.

    But if you listen, you can hear that bell sound right below your perception.

    The always on ringing.

    Nothing is ever truly silent, just vibrating at different wavelengths.

    Your body is emitting photons right now in the infrared.

    I can’t say we will merge into nothing.

    I am surrounded by all things.

    But inside, underneath, I am groundless.

    Eeeeeek!

    What I do and what happens is part of the same process.

    From here it all flows.

    Like a spring erupting in a desert.

    You are not born, nor will you die.

    You happen.

    To have a point is to have a purpose, to be is the point, entanglement is the meaning.

    To entangle is to confuse.

    Look at how things are entangled then.

    Is it so depressing not have a point?

    Clinging to ideas and thoughts, to stories, isn’t the way.

    Eros will dissolve your connections.

    Not too much then, just enough.

    The ego is vicious and diabolical.

    I had to doubt all of it and even my self.

    We literally are made of serpents.

    We are the expression of our DNA.
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    Post by SurfBum Thu Apr 25, 2019 9:38 pm

    The snakes get into everything
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    Post by U Thu Apr 25, 2019 10:57 pm







    "You must learn to walk backwards, talk backwards,
    THINK BACKWARDS!"
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    Post by SurfBum Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:11 pm

    Oh ya?

    I better get on that...

    Bahahahabaha!
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    Post by U Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:20 pm

    Like you haven't already....

    Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa


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    Post by SurfBum Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:22 pm

    **smaks U in the head with a stick**
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    Post by U Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:25 pm

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    Post by SurfBum Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:27 pm

    Down boy, down!
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    Post by SurfBum Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:40 pm

    Happy Flower Power
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    Post by SurfBum Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:51 pm

    Call it what you want...

    Christ consciousness

    Buddha mind

    Atman

    There are probably a dozen more words or concepts or names for it

    It is simply what is

    You can't get outside of it to point to it

    Just go to work and eat your three meals

    The sun comes up without exception

    What could be said?

    Happy Flower Power

    Everyday arrisings

    Ordinary juu juu
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    Post by U Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:58 pm

    3 hats and a cat...

    What else ya need?









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    Post by SurfBum Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:06 am

    UFOs are noise

    Listen to a flower

    Or better yet, listen to Jazz
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    Post by U Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:09 am

    You know what's even noisier wolf boi?

    800 hundred pounds of antediluvian terror breathing down your neck!

    But what if anything would I know about that?
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    Post by SurfBum Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:19 am



    All that Jazz baby!

    It's all around

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    Post by 99 Fri Apr 26, 2019 2:37 am

    Aaron wrote:Call it what you want...

    Christ consciousness

    Buddha mind

    Atman

    There are probably a dozen more words or concepts or names for it

    It is simply what is

    You can't get outside of it to point to it

    Just go to work and eat your three meals

    The sun comes up without exception

    What could be said?

    Happy Flower Power

    Everyday arrisings

    Ordinary juu juu



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    The monad/The Powerful One within us has not been contaminated by the "poison" referred to earlier which is Narcissistic personality disorder as we would be devoid of consciousness if that were not the case.

    "There is no consciousness without discrimination of opposites" ~ CG Jung
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    Post by SurfBum Fri Apr 26, 2019 8:31 am

    When the sun shines on my face I feel it's warmth

    It is better to masurbate then to meditate
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    Post by 99 Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:58 am

    To Aaron the fake Mormon...I can smell your draaaaagon energy from here even though I'm almost 2,000 miles away ... and it stinks.

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    Post by SurfBum Fri Apr 26, 2019 10:08 am

    Oh?

    That's the stench of flower power dude!

    So what do you smell like?

    A delicate rose?

    I like roses...

    ...


    Okay

    I'll blend in more



    Better?

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    Post by jofo Fri Apr 26, 2019 10:34 am

    it's fun to watch humans put a toe in the "flow" when you're free to just dive straight in

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    Post by SurfBum Fri Apr 26, 2019 10:41 am

    What could be said of the way?

    The way is everyday mind.

    What arises includes and transcends language

    Radical Zen is not for the crowds

    Who could know this spontaneous arising?

    What comes comes

    A UFO

    A Flower

    A Dan

    A smelly

    A 99

    what is the meaning of what arises?

    Who could know?

    And yet, what arises arises.

    The way to cut through being and non-bieng is radical Zen

    What is radical Zen?

    Ordinary beauty

    A flower

    A tree

    A face

    A rock

    A mountain

    The meaning is in the appearance

    You can charm the snakes with a flute or you can just smack them on the head

    Who is this message for?

    Wink
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Apr 26, 2019 11:17 am

    You can kiss them too.



    I am going to die.

    Bam, hit me between the eyes too.

    I am still reeling from the shock of my death.

    What does it mean that death has come to me?

    Today I was lying in bed and I saw someone stoking ashes in a crematorium, they were my ashes.

    I saw the bones breaking down, I saw the red coals of my bones.

    I saw the iron pokers being used to separate the sections not burned right down.

    Imagining your cremation is very strange.

    It happened spontaneously.

    I looked at my ashes in the urn after and I thought, ah, my life reduced to nothing.

    It was very satisfying.

    Follow your bliss.

    Smile like you mean it.

    Amor Fati
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    Post by SurfBum Fri Apr 26, 2019 11:32 am

    There are many bone churches in the world

    I prefer visiting the forests

    Church is for the crowds

    Happy Flower Power

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