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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Wed Apr 17, 2019 10:51 am

    First topic message reminder :

    This is the continuation of the Immaterialism 6 thread.......

    The original topic reminder post https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t320-immaterialism
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    Please remember to confine you dialogue to matters that are pertinent to the topic of immaterialism/disclosure.

    Thank you.
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    Post by dan Tue Apr 30, 2019 7:44 am

    Yes, it is rather difficult to deny one’s personhood.  

    The path of least resistance would just be to accept it, and move on.  

    It is true, however, that personhood can seem burdensome, at times.  

    That’s why we have each other to lean on.


    Vortimond,

    Are you really still worried about 9/11?

    Hey, you came to the right place, Brother. We have stories to tell you about 9/11......


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    Post by SurfBum Tue Apr 30, 2019 7:48 am

    It has to be shared, there is no other option but to share.

    Eternity has been bootstrapped into the best possible world

    Yes we are only helping ourselves to remember, but that is still sharing in my book

    You can be a person and still be one with eternity

    What is the difference between the finite and the infinite?

    Nothing

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    Post by vortimond Tue Apr 30, 2019 8:01 am

    The biggest secret i know of is that the hunter, the princess and the writer of the story are all one. And the one is you.
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    Post by SurfBum Tue Apr 30, 2019 8:09 am

    Shhhh

    Don’t tell
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    Post by dan Tue Apr 30, 2019 8:12 am

    Yes, Vortimond,

    I think you have just broken your Global Security Oath.

    The men in black are already on their way........!

    They’re gonna put you away for a long, long time...... maybe for Eternity!


    Aaron,

    Bootstrapping Eternity....... Yes, I like that......


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    Post by vortimond Tue Apr 30, 2019 8:24 am

    Well, there is also the fear. That is the devil of course. What else could it be?
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    Post by hobbit Tue Apr 30, 2019 8:32 am

    https://www.thisiscolossal.com/2017/12/17-story-dragon-temple/

    The dragon construction is to show that which is there, but not visible.

    It's how consciousness spirals in/out, enter the dragon=enter a portal.


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    Post by dan Tue Apr 30, 2019 8:34 am

    V,

    Fear is what gets our engines started.  Love is what keeps them going.


    hobbit,

    So, portals mostly have a spiral structure. Is that what you’re telling us?

    You, too, may have violated a security oath.......!



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    Post by vortimond Tue Apr 30, 2019 8:38 am

    Love can be very dangerous. That's the reason why Jennie from Blackpink has angel wings in this video.
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    Post by dan Tue Apr 30, 2019 9:00 am

    V,

    Yes, playing with cosmic love is definitely playing with fire.  

    Just ask Aaron about the queen bee, and how she can sting.

    9/11 was an act of cosmic love, didn’t you know?


    We have been on a long sojourn from home...... ever since we got booted from Paradise, and down the rabbit hole...... our perinatal re-enactment.  

    And, now, here we are, on the edge of the abyss.......

    Are we cancer or chrysalis?  Are these our death throes or birth pangs?  

    We are the baby chick, tottering on the edge of its nest.... wondering where our wings are...... grabbing for a ripcord...... Geronimo.....!

    smelly is just one kool chick...... his eyes are wide shut.



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    Post by vortimond Tue Apr 30, 2019 9:28 am

    Well, if someone is telling you "stop smoking right now", he is limiting your freedom. He is basically telling you that your next cigarette is something like a symbol of your freedom.
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    Post by dan Tue Apr 30, 2019 9:34 am

    V,

    If you are addicted to anything besides love...... well, it’s never too late..... but those chains can bind.

    But don’t mistake me for a drug counselor..... I don’t even play one on tv.

    To see the subtleties of portals, you must be clear eyed.  

    Portals are mainly subjective....... a gestalt switch... a paradigm shift.  

    And, when you go to the wishing well, be careful what you’re wishing for.  It can be a long trip back.  

    Special ones are inter subjective. That is what the princess deals with.

    The Earth is an inter subjective portal. It is our best possible Creation. The Big Bangers will want to convince you, otherwise. They will point to deep time and deep space. You can just point to your head...... and to the nearest portal or ufo.



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    Post by vortimond Tue Apr 30, 2019 9:46 am

    I was given this message: Don't change anything in your life under the influence of "the others" because they will control you. They think you are just a monkey.
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    Post by 99 Tue Apr 30, 2019 9:56 am

    A crazy Mormon, a nasty blue-blood
    Apple, nuts and dell and sloe
    Landed at shore before the flood
    From a ship of strange cargo!

    A combo that lives on dragon's blood
    When drinking it you hear them crow
    Dragging all they meet through mud
    Ring a ding a dong dillo!

    Welcome to the show! Ho, ho!
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    Post by dan Tue Apr 30, 2019 10:00 am

    Yes, 99 has had more than just a glimpse of our little show boat......

    And she has stuck around for the ride.......


    V,

    Freedom is the recognition of necessity.  

    I would be lying to you, if I told you that you’re not destined for the Monad.  

    Once you understand that, the world is your Oyster.  Please treat it gently.

    As persons, each of us holds the whole world in our hands.  

    It’s as if you were walking around with an AR15 loaded with Cupid’s arrows.  

    Those poor folks who feel they must tote steel, are looking at the world through the wrong end of the barrel.  They are looking at the world from the bottom of the wishing well.  


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    Post by vortimond Tue Apr 30, 2019 10:06 am

    I feel like I have won the game. Because otherwise I would be probably paying for some scientology sessions to give me back my "clear" status. It's all about the reactive mind really.
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    Post by dan Tue Apr 30, 2019 10:14 am

    If you managed to find your way, here...... all the way to ground zero..... you cannot be totally lost.

    I trust that you will find it worth the price of admission.

    Feel free to go forth, and to fear no more......


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    Post by vortimond Tue Apr 30, 2019 10:17 am

    I'm not here to stick around. Thank you for the experience and goodbye.
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    Post by dan Tue Apr 30, 2019 10:22 am

    V,

    You are welcome back, anytime you feel like a topping up........

    ...... anytime you want to catch up with the news from nowhere.

    ...... and thanks for the music......!


    The next dispatch could be coming from anywhere, but I would also be paying attention to the axis between Vegas and the Lake..... between TTSA and ManyOne.  


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    Post by whoknows Tue Apr 30, 2019 10:38 am

    Dan wrote:I’m not writing these words primarily for you, 99, so, please, don’t feel compelled to chime in, each time I make a distinction that goes over your head.

    How can she know not to chime in if it's goin over her head. Or anyone for that matter. just sayin.

    Me thinks you've chosen a hard row to plow kimosabe. It's hard to say something in a way that everyone can understand. To be able to do so would be miraculous would it not.

    Remind me, who was it came to separate everyone from every one and what was the remedy?

    Me I'm going to sit back and listen to B's 7th. So complex but everyone can understand it. LOL some don't like what they hear. Go figure.
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    Post by dan Tue Apr 30, 2019 10:45 am

    wk,

    If someone feels that I’ve said something really stupid, they could be right.

    But, before shooting from the hip, they might wish to peruse those ‘offending’ words, just one more time.
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    Post by whoknows Tue Apr 30, 2019 10:53 am

    I don't think you said anything stupid Dan. Actually, i think it was post 497, was one of your best.

    I have a hard time communicating in a way that can easily be understood, that being no one fault but my own.




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    Post by hobbit Tue Apr 30, 2019 10:57 am

    "Oath"

    ttps://www.bing.com/images/search?q=spiral+ziggurats&qpvt=spiral+zigurats&FORM=IQFRMLh
    What oath?

    All of these constructions are for the few.
    The few capable of interacting with consciousness.

    We should all be doing such.

    Those who take oaths of secrecy, are the easily controlled, the sheep.

    I'm a hobbit

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    Post by whoknows Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:01 am

    Dan

    Just have to ask though who are you talking to. Is it 1% or 20%. of the people that come here?

    I don't necessarily disagree with anything you've said, that is what I've understood.
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    Post by dan Tue Apr 30, 2019 12:27 pm

    wk,

    Our words are hostages to the future.  

    I speak to Eternity...... to what else.....?

    I speak to the Logos.  We speak to ourselves.  

    Is the Logos not already a verbal pleroma?  

    Yes, but our speaking and our silence is an essential part of that pleroma.  Every word, every being is a microcosm of that pleroma.  

    There are many ways to see the world...... one may focus.... another may defocus.  

    As to our oaths of secrecy...... our self revealing God is also, necessarily, a self concealing God.  There are two sides to that street.  


    Despite the recent uptick in disclosure, a long time source suggests that a tap that can be turned on, can also be turned off.  I gather that he does not believe in a point of no return.  

    This self same source might also be an alternate channel.  Nature does abhor a vacuum.  

    He also suspects a foundational aspect.... and even not discounting an apian aspect quite as much. How far from Vegas to the Lake?



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