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Post by GSB Mon Aug 16, 2021 8:12 am

"Beam me up Scotty!"

https://arxiv.org/pdf/2102.01064.pdf


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Post by hobbit Mon Aug 16, 2021 8:16 am

144, such a pleasant number.
1.618.
.618.

Spiral in.
Spiral out.

Golden.

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=golden+spiral&qpvt=golden+spiral&form=IGRE&first=1&tsc=ImageBasicHover



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Post by hobbit Mon Aug 16, 2021 8:33 am

Aaron,
Have You Your rod, cut whilst in bud?

We can build an Ark to golden ratio proportions, no need for any tape measure, divine measure is best.

We will power it with an ark of the covenant device, also built to divine measure.

Read up about Reichs accumulator to gather the materials, basically it's about layers of conductors and resistors.



I will then show You how to locate the ark with it's displacement device onto the divine matrix.

Bring Your rod We will keep it in the displacement device.

Then I will show You how an hobbit can focus upon wherever in the divine You so wish to displace to.


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Post by hobbit Mon Aug 16, 2021 8:50 am

Aaron wrote:We have a Hobbit with a rod and Ark building skills.

This could be useful for the ensuing floods.

I’m hoping that my raincoat and galoshes will be enough.

But it could be worse than I envision.

The planet is full of water, it depends on the rate of implosion over outrush the level that water raises or settles to.

Compression causes a raise in temperature.
De compression lowers the temperature.

Thus if the implosion from the sun lowers the waters will rise and flood the surface and then freeze.
If the implosion from the sun raises then deal in sun creams, and stock up on water.

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Post by hobbit Mon Aug 16, 2021 11:13 am

Aaron wrote:We have a Hobbit with a rod and Ark building skills.

This could be useful for the ensuing floods.

I’m hoping that my raincoat and galoshes will be enough.

But it could be worse than I envision.

———

Gary has some partial information on portal tech maybe.

Traversable wormholes are just a metaphor however.

Each one of us has a built in portal.

It’s called the logos spermatikos.

The 👸 is the keeper of keys from the other side.

You have to have two keys, one set from this side, which is the logos, and one set from the other side.

Me, I’ll be somewhere in the back of the line on the Ark with chick as we work to get 144,000 of us safely over to the other side.


"Two keys" is akin to a radio and a transmitter, or radar pinging back to origin.

Thus if We all have one key it is a matter of tuning to the same key to ping back to source.

I know I keep talking about dowsing, but that is ALL about tuning.
It is our natural ability to tune into whatever We choose to.

This though requires a recognition of the desired target as such.

If I am in a forest of trees I can instantly tune to any individual tree I focus upon, or if I am in an area with no trees i can focus upon trees and will then follow My rods towards the nearest tree.

Our thoughts flow through our hands, hence the buddha sat with a raised hand palm pointing at You.


Everything in universe ( 3D) is within it's own field of consciousness, and all fields are in direct contact with all other fields.

If I were out at sea and focussed upon a specific direction and specific location it would matter not how the sea and wind blew my vessel off course as I would simply focus upon that direct line and travel back to it, I am totally confident of been able to travel from a sixpence sized point on one side of the Atlantic to another such on the other side and return to the same sixpence, as the wise salmon does, it's bloody well simple.
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Post by hobbit Mon Aug 16, 2021 12:31 pm

Aaron,

It has been a hard slog keeping focus on the how, and I have worn many shoes out tracking and plotting the how.

And by adhering to K.I.S.S means I have had less distraction, to throw into the pot the why is better left to such as You and few others on here.

I have always recognised the lack of understanding about describing a non visible and not taught concept, most class Me as eccentric and worse.

But when staying highly focussed upon the how a strange communication arises from the why, which is ultra humbling.

lI reckon the why likes been attuned to.


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Post by hobbit Mon Aug 16, 2021 1:42 pm



Vibrations.
In the beginning was a word ( a vibration)

We are electrical/magnetic beings created by such, with universe as the orchestra, right this moment jupiter is playing quite a tune and the vibrations will create earthquakes and volcanoes to respond.

This is close by a full moon giving it's musical inputs.

On this OPEN MINDS FORUM I am quite happy to say that there is no creator responsible, no separate anything or anybody.

That all in creation is local memories of dual circulating fields of consciousness that chases itself eternally( ouroboros).

That all information is carried by consciousness and responds to the specific signals created by the emerging seeds ( logos)

That humans have been systematically veiled from their ability to closely attune to this system by control crazy weak forces that have used this to control the human population by dumbing them down to be slaves.

It's time to tune in again.


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Post by hobbit Mon Aug 16, 2021 1:53 pm

https://cassiopaea.org/forum/threads/planetary-alignments-are-ominous-for-2021-2024.49777/#:~:text=Beginning%202021%2C%20the%20earth%20and%20other%20planets%20will,into%20the%20magnetic%20field%20created%20by%20that%20alignment.


There is no such force called gravity, it is all about field interactions.
With the spiral nature of the planets following the spiral route of the sun those field interaction consequences are going to be very powerful now and in the near future.



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Post by smelly da goat Mon Aug 16, 2021 5:22 pm

So here is a funny thought.

Not original I’m sure.

Bagger teams abduct folks.

All ufo sightings play into the hands of MJ12.

They are run by us intel.

All to get us to support their industrial complex.

Most likely possibility.

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Post by smelly da goat Mon Aug 16, 2021 5:28 pm

Hobbit we made some dowsing rods.

Fun fun.
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Post by smelly da goat Mon Aug 16, 2021 5:31 pm

Aaron wrote:


Just watched this other day,

Weird synchronicity.

Not seen movie since it came out.
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Post by smelly da goat Mon Aug 16, 2021 5:37 pm

dan wrote:2230z……..

Chivo,

Our sitting around the campfire singing cumbayah would be wonderful, but, at present, we’re not heading that way, in case you hadn’t noticed.  

There is a corner that will have to be turned.  

Chivo is a man without a plan for turning the Corner.  

Since he doesn’t have his own plan, he can think of nothing better than to belittle and otherwise denigrate the only person who does have a plan.  


0130…….

chick 🐣 has the best possible vision for the future.  

Yes, this is the vision of the bridge from here to Eternity.  

I invite any who would like to compare visions to step right up.  



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No plans old man.

We do it in the moment.

And you should spend more time around the 🔥

You are lost Wink

But it’s fun to be lost.

I’m always here.

Can’t get lost unless I want to.

I’m fine watching you go in circles Surprised:

Foyan has a message for you.

Pay attention now with your old ears and waning heart.

Step back and see why you don’t understand.

“Thinking will not do
Not thinking will not do either
I tell you just step back and look
Phhheeewww
Sure gives muppets trouble”

You aren’t really any good at this game.

But I AM

My spontaneous knowing will beat you and your clueless friends for eternity.

Clueless muppets.

As if they could reach FatThorDude on cold mountain!

Bahahahaha

I can’t wait to tell han-shan.

We will have a good laugh over tea.
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Post by smelly da goat Mon Aug 16, 2021 10:01 pm

Aaron wrote:In one statement you say there is no creator responsible and in another you say the logos is the creator.

You then state that humans have been veiled from their ability to attune into this system and that it is time to tune in again.

I am simply suggesting that the logos is responsible unto itself to create the best possible world and best possible path back to source.

You say what is being veiled is a system.

I‘m saying the system is a lie.

I don’t believe in any system.

I only believe in persons.

Persons are fundamental.

At the end of the day, the dowser is still just a person with personal problems and personal experiences.

I think we can do better than unveiling a mechanical system.

I am suggesting the logos is responsible unto itself to unveil the Truth.

A personal truth one can relate to as a person.

We attune to the truth, each in our own time, with the help of deep time, love, and reason.

This was pretty good. ^^^

You’re touching on something deep here.

How can the mind see the mind?

It can’t.

It reminded me of one of my favorite zenists.

The great Foyan.

“I will settle something for you right now: the ultimate rule is to see your own mind clearly.

An ancient said, "The mind does not know itself, the mind does not see itself."

So how can you see it clearly?

Mind does not see mind; to get it, you must not see it as mind.”

Foyan Qingyuan [1067-1120]: Instant Zen: Waking Up in the Present, translated by Thomas Cleary, 1994

Dan, Zen is about just doing it.

But it is not just random doing.

It is the best amount of doing in the moment.

You just know what to do and when to do it.

I have practiced 5 years and I have barely begun to not understand Foyan.

He studied decades with masters until he got it.

I prob won’t ever get it as good as he did.

You have to do better than the Zenists in my opinion and you aren’t even close.

Now here is a great koan imho.

This book dissolves in your hands.

That’s the best kind of logos.

https://terebess.hu/zen/FoyenCleary.pdf

I told you, you have to be naked to get anywhere near this.

The ancients agree with me.

Naked (Direct) Realization

Foyan wrote:Just now an assistant came and announced that the rain isn’t stopping, and people may not be able to hear if a meeting is held in the rain.

Supposed the rain ☔ stopped right now— then
would you hear?

I say it’s best when the rain doesn’t stop. Why? Because you
are not deliberately trying to listen.

How about when they say the sound of the rain has given
you a sermon? Is that correct? I do not agree; the sound of the rain is you giving a sermon.

But do you understand?

Clarify it directly then what else is there?

People who go journeying to study Zen today should bring a statement to harmonize with the teacher. Why do you pain yourself and cramp yourself as you do?

Let me also ask you, what teacher would you harmonize with? If you want to harmonize with a teacher, just get to know your own mind.

Let me ask you, what is your mind?

And how do you know it?

Here you cannot force an understanding; you must actually look inward and discover it.

The ancients had no choice but to make provisional expla­nations where there is no explanation, employing ex­pedient means where there are no expedients.

One day when Xuansha went into the mountains, he encountered a tiger. His assistant told him there was a tiger there, but Xuansha just said, “It’s your tiger.”

Now with mountains and rivers crisscrossing the land, domains of existence everywhere, discriminating thoughts branching off in a thousand ways and diverging in a million ways, how can you explain this logic of “it’s yours?”

If you don’t understand this, you will be fatally obstructed everywhere. It’s just because you have been following material senses and been influenced by things since time immemorial. You try to point out— what are things, and what are you?

This is why a seeker asked Xuansha, “I have just entered the community; please show me a way of access.” Xuansha said, “Do you hear the sound of the valley stream?”

The seeker said, “Yes.” Xuansha said, “Gain access from here.”

Nowadays people do not clearly understand this story, sim­ply saying, “The essence of mind is omnipresent; who else hears?”

What relevance has this sort of discourse? You must be com­pletely naked before you will attain realization.

For now I ask you, have you dressed? You can be so shameless!

Naked is the only way.

You can use me as a measure Dan.

Naked is the only way.

What do I mean by that?

It’s a koan.

Realization is direct and instant, it can come in a moment naturally or take decades or never.

Nothing needs be said after, but you can chat about it forever or smile to another who has realized.

Smiling like you mean it.

You enter cold mountain 🏔  through the sound of the stream.

You will never ever ever understand portals until you have realized your mind.

Never.

A Philosophical study group ain’t gonna do it, ha, but it can help you see your doubt.

You can’t cheat.

It’s not in a book or word.

It’s gloriously elusive to the corrupt blind materialist.

You shall not pass, ever, as a material being.

Only after you are naked and your doubt is shattered.

You can take your plans and Ron’s plans and mj12’s plans and the evil industrial complex’s plans and wetiko’s plans…roll em up, sprinkle some marijuana on them all and some zen fairy dust and smoke that shiat.

Your plans are like hardened monkey monkey crap 💩

That’s what me and Foyan think of all the ufo talkers.

“An ancient said, “The mind does not know itself, the mind does not see itself.” So how can you see it clearly?

Even though it’s your own mind, it’s hard to see. All the sages since time immemorial have been people who clearly saw their own minds.”

You have to break through your doubt to see your mind.

You can only attain realization if you stop deceiving yourself.

And then you will never deceive anyone again.

You are still deceiving yourself and doubt.

I have no doubt, never did.

My conditioning created the illusion of doubt.

Keep at it, take your time and don’t rush, but maybe put a rush on it.

You don’t have long left!

“Egotism toward others is the busi­ness of mediocrities.“

If you are annoyed, you are ego and you are a fart 💨 that will pass soon enough.
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Post by hobbit Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:39 am

Aaron,

I have never said the system is mechanical.
it is multi dimensional , the only mechanical to our senses part is the created 3D which is at rest in the planets memory.

It's good to have have Your class input back here.

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Post by hobbit Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:45 am

Fatty,

Dowsing rods are reactors to the streams of Your thoughts emanating through Your hands.

The learned trick is the calmness to focus on whatever without Your thoughts been splattered about thinking of so many other things.

I play football with our dog, Her senses are totally focussed upon that ball.
I can't beat Her.

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Post by dan Tue Aug 17, 2021 3:50 pm

Chivo/ftd,

Zen is trying to play pretend with the Eschaton…… with being one with the One.

The Eschaton is not personal…….. it is interpersonal.  

Individuals can only pretend.  

Reality is interpersonal.  

The Zen pretense is the best possible pretense.  

It got us through the darkest hours.  

Chivo doesn’t quite realize that we are all soulmates……. we are time sharing on the one cosmic soul….. the I Am.  

In the End, Chivo will be no better than the ‘muppets’ to which he shows so much disdain.



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Post by smelly da goat Tue Aug 17, 2021 4:40 pm

dan wrote:Chivo/ftd,

Zen is trying to play pretend with the Eschaton…… with being one with the One.

The Eschaton is not personal…….. it is interpersonal.  

Individuals can only pretend.  

Reality is interpersonal.  

The Zen pretense is the best possible pretense.  

It got us through the darkest hours.  

Chivo doesn’t quite realize that we are all soulmates……. we are time sharing on the one cosmic soul….. the I Am.  



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“Egotism toward others is the busi­ness of mediocrities.“

Muppet work, all yours grandpa.

You really don't know what you are talking about in this area.

Because it's beyond talking.

As a muppet you have two big hurdles before cold mountain.

Doubt and self deception.

Until you overcome those, you are deceiving yourself and others.

Wetiko won't let you pass.

But Zen is one way to bypass wetiko.

Don't let the devil know you are coming.

This is learned by seeking how best to live on earth, something you have given up on apparently chasing phantoms.

Mistake, but it doesn't matter really.

Be nimble and agile and flexible, 3 things you are not.

I realize I am working with a child, that's half way there though, hehe.

You stick to your old craggy ways.

I'll try not to beat you with my zen shit stick too bad.

Leave the hard work to the goats.

The hard work has always been done by the goats.

Luckily we like the work.

But no plan will work out or come to pass.

And thinking will not help.

Oh my.
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Post by dan Tue Aug 17, 2021 5:03 pm

And Zen refuses to recognize that history is not an illusion.  

Zen denigrates history.

History is our punishment for our attachment to the world.  

Love plays no role in Zen.

Zen denigrates any Creator and any Creation.  

Zen has no clue about Agape.  

Zen is basically a negative/escapist philosophy.  

Zen is all about Sunyatta and Anatta.  

In Buddhism, everything has a negative reason.

In Christianity, everything has a positive reason.  



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