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Aaron wrote:We have a Hobbit with a rod and Ark building skills.
This could be useful for the ensuing floods.
I’m hoping that my raincoat and galoshes will be enough.
But it could be worse than I envision.
Aaron wrote:We have a Hobbit with a rod and Ark building skills.
This could be useful for the ensuing floods.
I’m hoping that my raincoat and galoshes will be enough.
But it could be worse than I envision.
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Gary has some partial information on portal tech maybe.
Traversable wormholes are just a metaphor however.
Each one of us has a built in portal.
It’s called the logos spermatikos.
The is the keeper of keys from the other side.
You have to have two keys, one set from this side, which is the logos, and one set from the other side.
Me, I’ll be somewhere in the back of the line on the Ark with chick as we work to get 144,000 of us safely over to the other side.
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Aaron wrote:
dan wrote:2230z……..
Chivo,
Our sitting around the campfire singing cumbayah would be wonderful, but, at present, we’re not heading that way, in case you hadn’t noticed.
There is a corner that will have to be turned.
Chivo is a man without a plan for turning the Corner.
Since he doesn’t have his own plan, he can think of nothing better than to belittle and otherwise denigrate the only person who does have a plan.
0130…….
chick has the best possible vision for the future.
Yes, this is the vision of the bridge from here to Eternity.
I invite any who would like to compare visions to step right up.
(cont………)
Aaron wrote:In one statement you say there is no creator responsible and in another you say the logos is the creator.
You then state that humans have been veiled from their ability to attune into this system and that it is time to tune in again.
I am simply suggesting that the logos is responsible unto itself to create the best possible world and best possible path back to source.
You say what is being veiled is a system.
I‘m saying the system is a lie.
I don’t believe in any system.
I only believe in persons.
Persons are fundamental.
At the end of the day, the dowser is still just a person with personal problems and personal experiences.
I think we can do better than unveiling a mechanical system.
I am suggesting the logos is responsible unto itself to unveil the Truth.
A personal truth one can relate to as a person.
We attune to the truth, each in our own time, with the help of deep time, love, and reason.
Foyan wrote:Just now an assistant came and announced that the rain isn’t stopping, and people may not be able to hear if a meeting is held in the rain.
Supposed the rain stopped right now— then
would you hear?
I say it’s best when the rain doesn’t stop. Why? Because you
are not deliberately trying to listen.
How about when they say the sound of the rain has given
you a sermon? Is that correct? I do not agree; the sound of the rain is you giving a sermon.
But do you understand?
Clarify it directly then what else is there?
People who go journeying to study Zen today should bring a statement to harmonize with the teacher. Why do you pain yourself and cramp yourself as you do?
Let me also ask you, what teacher would you harmonize with? If you want to harmonize with a teacher, just get to know your own mind.
Let me ask you, what is your mind?
And how do you know it?
Here you cannot force an understanding; you must actually look inward and discover it.
The ancients had no choice but to make provisional explanations where there is no explanation, employing expedient means where there are no expedients.
One day when Xuansha went into the mountains, he encountered a tiger. His assistant told him there was a tiger there, but Xuansha just said, “It’s your tiger.”
Now with mountains and rivers crisscrossing the land, domains of existence everywhere, discriminating thoughts branching off in a thousand ways and diverging in a million ways, how can you explain this logic of “it’s yours?”
If you don’t understand this, you will be fatally obstructed everywhere. It’s just because you have been following material senses and been influenced by things since time immemorial. You try to point out— what are things, and what are you?
This is why a seeker asked Xuansha, “I have just entered the community; please show me a way of access.” Xuansha said, “Do you hear the sound of the valley stream?”
The seeker said, “Yes.” Xuansha said, “Gain access from here.”
Nowadays people do not clearly understand this story, simply saying, “The essence of mind is omnipresent; who else hears?”
What relevance has this sort of discourse? You must be completely naked before you will attain realization.
For now I ask you, have you dressed? You can be so shameless!
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dan wrote:Chivo/ftd,
Zen is trying to play pretend with the Eschaton…… with being one with the One.
The Eschaton is not personal…….. it is interpersonal.
Individuals can only pretend.
Reality is interpersonal.
The Zen pretense is the best possible pretense.
It got us through the darkest hours.
Chivo doesn’t quite realize that we are all soulmates……. we are time sharing on the one cosmic soul….. the I Am.
(cont………)
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