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Who's Disclosure is Disclosure?

Sun Apr 14, 2019 2:16 am by Cyrellys

The narrative war is in full swing. When there's a 100 different competing narratives, how is it possible to discern a disclosure?

Is it akin to which truth is Truth?




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Post by GSB Wed Jul 21, 2021 6:28 am

Note: the output solution to the above process is the number 42 ;-)

And thanks for all the fish!


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Post by dan Wed Jul 21, 2021 6:55 am

Alright, smarty pants,

I see how you do struggle.  

And, yes, the struggle is well worth the effort……..

However, you’ve neglected one little detail about cosmic asset value…….

The first shall be last, and the last shall be first.
………

Ok, I hadn’t seen your last message, before I posted this one.  

It appears that you may have already anticipated my biblical retort, by way of your fish 🐟 story.  

Go fish………  


Meanwhile, Princess was trying to reach Doug A, and she reached chick 🐣 instead.  

As regards the Feugal episode……. it is just episode #537 of ufo 🛸 gossip girls 👧.  

When we reach episode #639, I should give her a call.  

Princess is quite unimpressed by the potential John W connection.

And maybe foot will be taking it off the table…… over the Feugal incident.

The games we attempt to play.

It is a small sandbox.



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Post by Foot Mann Wed Jul 21, 2021 7:34 am

Son of Satan called Robert Kiviat and presented a fabricated story that Dr. Pandolfi had admitted to twisting Brandon Fugals' arm to fund Keith Kloor. Mr. Kiviat then called Dr. Pandolfi with a suggestion that he test whether Son of Satan is just mentally ill or also a blatant liar. Dr. Pandolfi called Son of Satan who confirmed he was a blatant liar who fabricated the entire story with ill intent. Dr. Pandolfi demanded Son of Satan call Robert Kiviat and confess. He did, but later that day he posted more blatant lies on this Loon Blog, "foot was rather upset with me, yesterday, when I suggested to Bob Kiviat that Ron might be encouraging Brandon Feugal’s support Keith Kloor’s ufo investigation." First day on the job, and already I am disgusted by having to respond to this Satanic disinformer. May he soon return to his Father in a Trinity of Evil with no physical presence in this Small World.
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Post by dan Wed Jul 21, 2021 7:50 am

I have great powers of perception.  

I perceive that I’m not wanted down here.

And here I was……  just hoping to sail into the sunset 🌅…… off the coast of Patagonia……. with the Princess 👸, of course.  
……….


Back to smarty pants 👖…….

Obviously, smarty pants has an authority issue……

It’s called oppositional defiance disorder (ODD).

It comes from trying to fight city 🏙 hall too much.

Resistance is futile, pants 👖.  

The more you try to resist, the harder you will fall.  

The Borg/Monadnock 🏔 will get you in the End.  

You are already well beyond the event horizon.  

Gary is afraid that someone is going to steal his soul, while he’s gone.  

I have a news 📰 flash⚡, Gary, your soul never belonged to you, in the first place.  

Who does it belong to?  

You are time sharing your soul with the I Am…… and with the other 10^10 of us.    

Yes, you do have oodles of personal memory.  

Will you be able to recover your personal memories?  

Simple answer is…… no.  

Your memories are totally 💯 entangled with the best possible world 🌎.  

However, they have been optimally packaged 📦 in the form of the Logos Spermatikos or the cosmic seed crystal.  

So, pants 👖, to recover your assets, you’ll either have to come back here or there…… and you won’t be able to come back down here 🌎 again, until you’ve checked back in, up ⬆ there.

Sorry Crying or Very sad, that’s just the way it is.  



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Post by smelly da goat Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:22 am

Immaterial, scientific, material, objective, subjective/personal.

These are all valid ways of knowing.

Then there are ways of not knowing, intuition.

We have to meet folks where they are, not where we think they should be.

Me, I like it on Cold Mountain.

Few come this way.

There is no better place to be than where you are and no one better to be with than who you are with.
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Post by smelly da goat Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:24 am

Foot Mann wrote:Son of Satan called Robert Kiviat and presented a fabricated story that Dr. Pandolfi had admitted to twisting Brandon Fugals' arm to fund Keith Kloor. Mr. Kiviat then called Dr. Pandolfi with a suggestion that he test whether Son of Satan is just mentally ill or also a blatant liar. Dr. Pandolfi called Son of Satan who confirmed he was a blatant liar who fabricated the entire story with ill intent. Dr. Pandolfi demanded Son of Satan call Robert Kiviat and confess. He did, but later that day he posted more blatant lies on this Loon Blog, "foot was rather upset with me, yesterday, when I suggested to Bob Kiviat that Ron might be encouraging Brandon Feugal’s support Keith Kloor’s ufo investigation." First day on the job, and already I am disgusted by having to respond to this Satanic disinformer. May he soon return to his Father in a Trinity of Evil with no physical presence in this Small World.

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Post by dan Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:25 am

Cold Mountain and Monadnock may have a few features in common.

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Post by aaron Wed Jul 21, 2021 12:51 pm

Like wind 💨

I’ll bet they have wind in common.

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Post by aaron Wed Jul 21, 2021 1:05 pm

A FatThorDude

Haha!

That’s a pretty good one

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Post by aaron Wed Jul 21, 2021 1:10 pm

At the end of the day it’s just another archetype abstraction,
but I like it.

It’s one way to face this anyway.

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Post by aaron Wed Jul 21, 2021 1:18 pm

The closest to this is no way, no plan, no mission.

The old goat FatThorDude way, one might say.

That’s why disclosure is a distraction and lie.

UG would say your creation of the answer to the world in the form of what you call disclosure, is the very thing that creates the nonexistent problem that something needs to be disclosed
In the first place.

This is why the mind is ensured of its continuity.

Trust me, there is nothing to disclose

Anyway, ignore me. I’m a pointless point.

Just passing gas...


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Post by smelly da goat Wed Jul 21, 2021 1:20 pm

Good to see you out and about Ack!

This new Satan hating left 🦶  is a bit dense me thinks.

The dragon 🐉 with many feet.

Lucifer is the source of much in us.

Thinking and reading and writing are other gifts or curses.

The Luciferians would prefer we all be robots as I understand the myths.

They wanted us to avoid evolution.

The Ahrimanic forces are trying to make it all material, cutting off our connection to the other side of the abyss as the myths go.

Machine interfaces are Ahrimanic.

Well, they couldn’t block the path to Cold Mountain.

I don’t know how long that way will remain open.

Gnostics are interesting.

If I were a clueless muppet, I wouldn’t waste time on anyone else’s Heaven or Hell.

Certain mysticism is dangerous to the individual.

Being an automaton doesn’t sound too fun to me either.

Why don’t you all come to cold mountain and we can sit awhile in the wind.

Is my only choice Christ or bust?!

Naaaaaa

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Post by aaron Wed Jul 21, 2021 1:23 pm

Lol

Yeah, I’m with ya old goat

This new Satan hating foot 🦶 does seem quite dense.

......

Christ or bust?



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Post by dan Wed Jul 21, 2021 1:44 pm

ftgm thinks I should beat around the bush with jw, and trade information.  

I told him that was stupid.  

I have only one thing to offer…….. background on foot.

My first card on the table would be the 1980 meeting.  

He can decide if he wants to hear any more.

If so, I tell him the core story.  

If he’s done any homework, he’ll already know both of these things.  

That will make for a short meeting.  

Perhaps he has something to tell me……. I’m a bit skeptical.  

In other words, we don’t need to beat around any bushes.  

I have only two cards to play in this game…… take them or leave them.  

If he’s interested, it might turn into a lengthy meeting.

If not, we don’t need to waste our time.  

The core story would lead off with utsoro bune.  

To get back to the beginning, what is his background on the R&D show, starting with R, of course.  

Within a couple of minutes, I’ll know if the meeting will be productive.  

foot has threatened to invite the Chèvre man to the meeting.  

If so, my portion of the meeting may be even shorter.  

Joe and I have zero overlap in our interest, and the only thing in common is foot.  

John will have to sort out his priorities, rather promptly.  

If Joe is coming, he ought to arrive first, and have his say.  

Joe and I ought to have a preliminary phone chat, and get a couple of things straight between us.

It might save a lot of time.



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Post by aaron Wed Jul 21, 2021 5:26 pm

Zen merges the inside and outside worlds.

A useful tool for a clueless muppet.

It’s not that there is really nothing to disclose, it’s that the work of disclosure is coming to terms with the reality of the world as it is.

The image of the statue carving itself out of the block
of stone comes to mind.

It could be said that disclosure is removing what disclosure is not.

As simple and complex as that really.

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Post by smelly da goat Wed Jul 21, 2021 6:42 pm

No one could be right about what to do.

What works has to be our guide.

I don’t think the elite or those in power care about what works for you or me.

They care about their own self interest.

So we don’t know nor can we know the motivations behind disclosure and related manipulations.

Making this public now is a manipulative act.

There is an agenda at work here.

I don’t trust anyone but those I trust.

The elite may think the rest of us are idiots and they think they know best.

Mining space perpetuates a world I don’t believe in.

I’m not too excited about us going into space.

I’m more concerned with living together on earth.

There is no where else for us but here.

No one knows what is best for you.

That’s for us to figure out together.

We all have equal right to know what’s happening.

I do not trust spies or the industrial military complex.

They do not love you.

They would sacrifice you.

They killed Kennedy for pushing.

The last president to challenge them was openly killed as a lesson to the rest.

We still fight those assholes and the organizations who did that.

They will use and abuse you for their imagined agendas.

I don’t trust myopic scientists too dumb to live in their hearts.

I listen to thoughtful heart centered people.

Those people are transparent.

Get naked or stfu with your opinions really, I mean that generally.

Is there a spiritual battle under way trying to deny us access to our higher mind?

I think there is.

Just look at how religion has been morphed into politics trying to manufacture consent for a small group of people to hurt the rest of us.

Yes, there is a way of flesh and blood and a war of ideas, but not a war for your heart.

In your heart, you love each other, that doesn’t support the program of separating us and making us hate each other.

So consider your sources.

You think Trump loves you and wants the best world for you?

Some love truth, most love their own truth.

Solipsism rules the days.

You think Q loves you?

Or Gen Flynn?

Has Q gotten naked?

They are liars.

Those who love you, don’t want to lie to you.

Ron and/or left foot hide, can’t be trusted.

No one person knows what’s happening.

So who can you trust?

Who do you trust?

If you know thyself, then you trust thyself.

How can you know if others know themselves?

If you know, you know.

Crossing the abyss is hard to explain if not impossible.

But you know who is full of shit once you know your own shit.

You know how easy we are to fool.

But challenging each other to our best is another matter.

Challenging you to think clearly is an act of love.

People pushing lies are pushers of lies.

I do not believe in or accept noble lies.

What can a FatThorDude or a chicken do about anything?

Nothing really but ask themselves the questions the others don’t think about.

What is the love of love?

Wisdom.

So yah, I found the path to incorruptibility.

No one can corrupt you but yourself.

Why would you corrupt yourself?

That’s a good question.

Why do we deny ourselves the heights and depths of experience and knowledge?

Why do we prevent ourselves from living transparently with each other?

Trust.

What is taboo?

Nothing.

What is possible?

Anything any moment.

How shall we best live then?

What should we trust?

Should we trust unfalsifiable science as anything more than opinion?

Should we trust any religious idea?

Should we trust mystical experiences?

Should we trust certain philosophies and not others?

Can we ever really trust anything?

What politics is best?

There is no single answer maybe and that’s confusing to us.

Can we live with confusion and not knowing?

Not without a lot of self discipline.

Nothing is easy in life really.

This is hard stuff.

One should take care how they live.

One should beware of their own answers and especially easy answers from others.

Maybe we have to earn reality.

I wouldn’t value anything I did not suffer and fight for and choose of my own free will.

Humans need to be challenged to be our best.

Believing in conspiracies and living in fear and anger is not our best, but may be a step to find our best.

I’m not angry anymore about being lied to.

I think the stoics had a pretty good answer.

“It all comes down to turning our focus away from external circumstances that lie beyond our control and toward the inner refinement of our own character.”

Are you talking about and exemplifying how best to live?

Are you exposing your struggles with others?

Are you being honest with yourself?

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Post by dan Thu Jul 22, 2021 4:06 am

1000z…..….

Ok, I finally figured out where three is from.  She is from krypton…. a place that is also familiar to us as cheetah land.
Years before the destruction of the legendary Man of Steel's home planet, Superman's grandfather, Seg-El, fights to redeem his family's honor after the House of El is ostracized and shamed over Seg's grandfather's false claims of a world-killer coming to Krypton.
 chick would like to know when krypton was invented, to see where it fits into the timeline. It was invented in 1938.  Hmmm 🤔.  How does that fit?  krypton would also be another name for Atlantis, New Jerusalem, ShangriLa, etc……..

So, yes, she would be the time traveler of utsuro fame.  


1120……..

So, with jw jr and sr both having worked with foot, how much would they not have been able to connect the dots between krypton and new swabia land, in connection with high jump?  
Jacques Vallée in his book Confrontations mentions a "spurious story" about "'holes in the pole' allegedly found by Admiral Byrd", when he quotes Clint Chapin of the Copper Medic case as believing the UFOs came from inside the earth.
And when was new Swabia connected with the BPWH and three?

What did they know……..

They must have known that everything was operating under a timeline.  

How much do they know of the timeline?  

How much did Jerry Siegel know of the timeline?  

How many folks have some degree of inside knowledge relative to the timeline?  

That’s what we’re about to find out.

I would guess that it’s somewhere between one and hundred k.

But there would be many more who are just able to smell it, even besides the fundamentalists, and who understand, nevertheless, that there is a choreography.

Along with the choreography, there is also tasseography.  

And we all have a built in crystal ball 🔮.  

What I need to know, with regard to jw……. how familiar is he with the Anthropic Principle, immaterialism, etc……?


1300……..

What jw needs to understand is that Disclosure is, necessarily, a package 📦 deal.  

He must already sense as much.

We need to know is what are his inclinations besides being the spokesperson?  

Does he happen to have any designs on the SoT/chick 🐣 spot?

4m/k/sot/x2? 1,2,3?  

What has he been thinking about our resource situation?

About the advent of the internet?

About personalism?  

How much is he already on board?

What did he know, when did he know it?  

Is he also an experiencer, in any way?  

What did his dad know about the briefings of the POTUS?

What are his spiritual dispositions?  

Potentially, we have a great deal of ground to cover.

Please, let’s not waste each other’s time.  

What took him so long to make the scene, having already known foot for quite awhile?

When did he first suspect anything about foot?  

Is he ready to face the heat?  

Does he believe that he knows anything of great significance that I don’t already know or strongly suspect?  

Does foot understand that any such meeting would place us deeply into the End game, with our options being correspondingly narrowed?

This will not be put back in the bottle.  

When did he first start hearing stories from his dad?  

When did he first suspect that he would have a role to play?  

Did this suspicion come mainly from the outside or the inside?  

When did three come onto his radar as a potential PoI?  

These are all questions that I have to be ready to answer, myself.  

How many members of his extended family want nothing to do with this?  


1850………

FTGM is almost gleeful to tell that the potential meeting with John Warner has been canceled, according to his information.  

He may well be correct, but I don’t understand his joy.  


The second part of John’s second interview with Listz gets into the dark side of ufology, including transhumanism.  

I was disappointed.  I wonder what it take to overcome that mindset?  

More than one meeting in 1980, evidently.  

As see below, with Chivo and hobbit, for instance.  

foot may have wanted me to just pick John’s brain, but that was not my intent.  

It’s just really difficult for folks to get their hopes up, especially in public, because their hopes have been dashed so many times.  

And what might it take to assuage our fears with respect to the unknown, as represented by portals?



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Post by smelly da goat Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:54 am

The power of Ahriman compels you.
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Post by hobbit Thu Jul 22, 2021 1:06 pm

FatThorDude wrote:The power of Ahriman compels you.
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Along with His friend gates who is enabling ahriman to turn humans into slaves who reject spirituality, thus when ahriman incarnates shortly a race of zombie like drones will do it's bidding.

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Present!

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U wrote:Present!

jocolor

So are You ....
Ahriman?
A zombie?
Or a zombie Ahriman?

Hobbit

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Post by aaron Thu Jul 22, 2021 3:40 pm

We can transmute ourselves with the powers that compel us through love sincerity and authenticity.

We face corruption every day, it breathes down our backs moment to moment, so what choice do we have but to work through it with what appears?

You can burn down your house with fire, or you can light a candle in a cave.

It only maters to us what we do with it for ourselves.

That power can compel one to murder or worse.

It can corrupt the weak and strong.

At a deeper level, it can compel one to do the work to deepen the quality of oneself and the world within and without.

The power that compels us is always here moving us to act.

How we harness, manage, and move with that power matters.

Over time people have given it various names and personified it with various myths and ideas about it.

Here it is should be clear that these, of course, are all abstractions for the same unknowable force.

What we do with that force matters.

The elite would only use it to advance their own agenda in the world.

The wise would use it to transmute themselves and deepen the quality of their being.

You are the only one that can step up and face it.

Fear and shame won't do.

Your inner Pooh-bear is one response to your inner Ahriman.

Oh what a blustery day.

Cold Mountain winds make the aspen trees glimmer.

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Post by smelly da goat Thu Jul 22, 2021 4:58 pm

hobbit wrote:
U wrote:Present!

jocolor

So are You ....
Ahriman?
A zombie?
Or a zombie Ahriman?

Hobbit

Maybe hobbit, maybe.

Maybe U, that would be nice if we knew Ahriman a bit.

I’m no enemy of evil.

I respect chaos and its dark sibling evil.

Evil lives in consciousness.

Ahriman must incarnate.

I imagine the ufo religion will be Ahriman’s people.

The materialist humanists.

Look at how powerful it already is behind the scenes.

200 years coming and then some.

I’d like to get a good look at evil.

Not too close though.

I have to fight Ahriman, yay, lucky me.

I won’t be a full Jedi until I face Vader.

Until I face...MY MOTHER!

My old age will be preoccupied by this evil most likely.

I suppose if I was going to choose when to live, it would be to stand against Ahriman and Lucifer coming to earth.

I guess I’ll play Christ incarnate.

Don’t see any better candidates around, so why not.

Dan didn’t realize he was preparing the Christ child.

Bahahaha


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Post by smelly da goat Thu Jul 22, 2021 5:02 pm

The best place to meet Ahriman is on Cold Mountain.

FatThorDude will be ready.

Smelly says he’s backing me up.

The power of smelly 🐐 compels me.

I ask the wings of the Daimon to brush me.

The Big One ☝

The enemy of your enemy is your friend.

Could use your help now Pan too.

I guess that’s why you sent me Christopher Hyatt.

I believe this may be of assistance to some of us.

Eat up muppets.

http://www.pauladaunt.com/books/Christopher%20S%20Hyatt_Undoing%20Yourself%20With%20Energized%20Meditation%20And%20Other%20Devices.pdf

Scooby Dooby Do

We have some work to do now.

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Post by aaron Thu Jul 22, 2021 6:00 pm

Up on Cold Mountain near the edge of the tree line, the Christ child enjoys the company of an ancient Chimera.

Call it his spirit animal or what will you.

The old sages sent it there to play with and protect the Child.

Lots of steep cliffs and storms.

A fall from those cliffs would be disastrous for the little tyke.





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