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The narrative war is in full swing. When there's a 100 different competing narratives, how is it possible to discern a disclosure?

Is it akin to which truth is Truth?




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Post by Foot Mann Tue Sep 07, 2021 7:32 pm

Definitely one of your better poultry blog days -- glad there was no Left Foot left to capture the prize.

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Post by aaron Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:30 pm

Bozo the clown.

Let the old man do his thing in peace.

We’re all on the same team here.

What do you know about love?

Love all of it.

Loons, crooks and all.

Shoo shoo!

Gassy goat

Gassing the girl is not the optimal way to love her.

#RiseUp
#KissesNotGas

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Post by aaron Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:17 am

BewilderedBird wrote:
Now get behind me pretender.

Already am.

My feeble old-man heart makes me slow.

I fell in love with a goddess.

You have no clue.

It turned me into molasses.

My bliss is full.

Ahhhhhhhh

🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴😑😑😑😑😑

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Post by Jesus Thu Sep 09, 2021 9:13 pm

I like the idea of God, but don’t believe in its existence. There’s evidence that human beings are biased towards the existence God(s) nowadays as a result of genetic engineering done thousands of years ago. It was supposedly a way for Reptilians in ancient times to get people to listen to them before being beaten by greys. Human beings were left to advance on their own as a result. There may have been projects by aliens to improve humanity in more recent times. I believe Jesus was specifically engineered as part of a project to teach humanity, and was extremely loving as a result of being genetic engineered.


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A challenger approaches!

I like this guy!



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Post by dan Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:36 am

1430z……..

I have spent the last couple of days reviewing Bernardo Kastrup, starting with his latest, Science Ideated.  

He is so near, yet so far.  

He is our best known contemporary idealist, but, while taking scientific materialism to task, he will not touch cosmology.  

He refuses even to touch the Anthropic Principle.  

Is this a calculated refusal, or is it his unwitting bargain with the Devil?  

In all of postmodernism, modern cosmology and Darwinism remain sacred cows.  

This leaves only one alternative……. an acosmic Buddhism.  

In as much as it is a calculated maneuver, it is evil.  

As a result, he recognizes no ontological status for the person, despite his very personal style of writing and story telling.  

Persons……. either they are absolutely central, or you strain to ignore them, altogether.  Buddhism does that……. despite all its introspection.  

It can’t see the forest, for the trees.  

Kastrup calls himself an analytic idealist, which is also known as objective idealism.  


1620……..

I tend to see mysticism as idealism without persons.

Kastrup is a mystic, in that regard.  

However, as I examine the many and various labels for idealism, I’m finding that they make very little sense.  

Ideas are had by persons.  

Idealism is necessarily ‘anthropocentric’, in its nonbiological, personal sense.  

Otherwise, one ventures into incoherence, which might also be called mysticism.  

An incoherent idealism is tantamount to an oxymoron.  


1730……..

A key feature of idealism is its monism.  

However, it seems that ideas and perceptions are many and varied, often incoherent, in themselves.  

Persons also come in seemingly infinite variety.  

The basic idea is that ideas hold persons together, and persons hold ideas together.  

Wherever there is a person or an idea there is a subject.  

Subjectivity…….?  Is there not some essential universality?  

Where there is an infinite variety, is there not also an infinite depth?  

I haven’t mentioned the Logos.  


2000……..

Then there is memory……..

Is there anything of the world or about the world that the memory cannot hold?  

If nothing else, the mind is a universal receptacle.



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Post by dan Sat Sep 11, 2021 7:27 am

1330z…….

Science has succeeded beyond our wildest expectations, but, at the same time, it has also failed miserably.  

Science has succeeded in the quantity department, but not so much in the quality department.  

Well, who could argue that science has not improved our quality of life……. in every material aspect?  

The potentiality and actuality of global communication is far beyond all precedent.  

So, we’re all dressed up and outfitted, but we have nowhere to go…… well, except out into the void.  

Many of us, however, still manage to cling to the spirit, in almost every possible way……. new and old.  

Science has done its darnedest to quash our spirits…… with  marginal success.  

Yes, the intelligentsia has turned away from traditional religions, but there have been a plethora of alternatives to a full embrace of scientism.  

Science has failed to capture our hearts and minds.  

Most of us are ok ✅ with that.  

Most of us are not out searching for the next big thing…… in fact, there is much trepidation in that department.  

However, does anyone really expect us to sit on this third rock 🪨 from the Sun 🌞, contemplating our navels, waiting for the Sun to go out?  

The existential human condition is that we only have only one foot 🦶 planted on the Earth 🌎.  

But where is that other foot 🦶?  

Where, indeed?!  


1500……..

Our bipedal, existential stance does seem to predispose us to some sort of dualism.  

But science, itself, has blocked such an easy way out.  

The quasi omniscience of science makes it increasingly difficult to draw any ontological lines in the sand…… such as between the sacred and the profane.  

The continued thrust of science is always pushing us toward a single footed monism.  

Science leaves no stone unturned…… no corner unexposed.  

If we’re gonna come out into the daylight, we’re gonna have to come out fighting.  

We’re going to have to declare a total war.  

If that isn’t immaterialism, we have no idea of what it could be.  

All paths of retreat have been blocked off.  

Modernism was a one-way passage.  

We are not going to turn the clock ⏰ back on modernism……… try though the Taliban does……. to put the toothpaste back in the tube.   

I will say this for modernism……. the battle now is between smart phones 📱…….. don’t bring a gun to a phone fight.  


1630………

Materialism is not going to be a pushover.  

It’s not going to be easy to crack…….. not without a portal……. or two.  

And portals don’t grow on trees……. in case you hadn’t noticed.  

My kingdom for a portal opener.  

The last time I checked, she was in no rush.  

Perhaps scientific materialism will collapse under its own weight.

Scientism is already running on fumes.

However, the greatest barrier to immaterialism is not that materialism refuses to give up the ghost……..

The greatest barrier is that folks know a shaky bridge when they see one.

Shaky bridge?



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Post by dan Sat Sep 11, 2021 10:45 am

1640z………

You folks have my blessings.  

What will be the message?  

How far can you get with no message?
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The shaky bridge……..?

Yes, it is a shaky bridge……. to Nowhere.  

Well, it is a suspension bridge, but the other end is lost in the fog.  

And that’s being a Pollyanna about it.  

The other end is the Abyss.  


1800……..

Modernism turns out to have been a bridge to nowhere.  

Modernism is a teleology without a Telos.  

How long was that going to last?

Well, the Telos was always there……. it was just lurking 👀.  

It was lurking behind all the obtusity of the Fundamentalists…… bless their hearts.  

It was lurking behind all the modern polish that had been applied to image of the jguy.  

It was lurking behind the mountain of dinosaur 🦖 fossils.  

Weren’t those fossils going to protect us from the words of a few old, sand-blasted desert prophets?  

Maybe the Taliban have a message for us, after all.  

Perhaps they know, instinctively, that there must be holes in our shiny new modernism.  

Perhaps the Telos is lurking behind all their guns and bravado.  

Is the Taliban riding shotgun on the Apocalypse?  

Certainly, Osama was……. all the way to the Twin Towers.  

Had Osama failed to get the memo 📝 on radio carbon dating?  

Certainly, modernism contains ample seeds of the Apocalypse.  

Sow the wind……. and reap the whirlwind.

Yes, on the one side we have the Taliban, and on the other side we have the Donald Trumps of the world.  

Meanwhile, number three bides her time.  

What was Ronald thinking when he attended that fateful meeting at Walter’s house?  

Just how thorough was that briefing?  

Did anything get left out?


2030………

If there is a cosmic mind, it does a rather good job of sequestering itself between our ears.  

It must be very bashful.  

The closest thing to a giveaway might be the Logos, but it is a rather parsimonious gift……. say, compared to the Sun, for instance.  

It’s rather easy to miss, as we drive by in our shiny new cars.  

In physics, the Logos takes the shape of the Anthropic Principle.  

Physicists have managed to cruise on by, barely breaking their stride.  

But where, exactly, does the mental world end, and the physical world begin?  

How about at the retina of our eye 👁?  

Is it really that simple?  

What about the rest of our body?

What about the cane 🦯 of the blind person?

Is all of our perception really just indirect?



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Post by aaron Sun Sep 12, 2021 5:20 am

Well said

Feeling the same vibe here

Like ….. WOW 🤩🥰😍

I love the way you said it.

Beautiful


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Post by dan Sun Sep 12, 2021 8:44 am

Although they don’t know it, scientists are direct realists.  

Nature is the translucent veil of the Big Bang.  

If it weren’t for Nature, we’d be blinded by the Big Bang.  

Of course, as an immaterialist, I don’t believe in the Big Bang.  

I believe in the Big Love.  

If it weren’t for hate, we’d be blinded by the Big Love.  

Hate casts the shadows that point us to the Big Love.  

An immaterialist is necessarily a directly perceiving monist……. all that we can ultimately perceive is cosmic Agape.  

Atoms and persons act as prisms of that blinding light.  

We are the step down transformers.  

Was the I Am just Narcissus staring into the Abyss?  

Out of that reflection came Creation.  

The rainbow 🌈 is the promise that, one day, we will be one with the One.  

But that’s not quite right……

The center of gravity of our beings is, necessarily, the One…… clones that we are.  

This is what the Logos is about.  

We are born knowing this…….. we come from down from Heaven, trailing clouds of glory.  

How do ‘they’ manage to keep us down on the farm?  

You might think that our heads would explode 🤯.  

They do…….. and they do.

In our rush to get back through the gates of Heaven, we are constantly bashing each other over the head…… trampling each other.

Unless we manage to be good little Buddhists, and contemplate our navels.

And who the heck does chick 🐣 think that he is?

Well, I found this help wanted ad in john 16. That was day one with Sophia. I had barely a clue, but I did cry for three days. A little bit odd, I thought.

It was a long way from portals and princesses.



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Post by aaron Sun Sep 12, 2021 8:50 am

Yes, you believe in persons and the Big Love.

Obviously
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In other news from nowhere, spectre had his first real encounter with Sophia yesterday in the form of a cat. 🐈

Turns out she is very wise.

Imaginal that.
🙂

One day one with the One?

Yes

And it turns out that one day lasts for eternity.

dan wrote:That was day one with Sophia. I had barely a clue, but I did cry for three days.  A little bit odd, I thought.

It was a long way from portals and princesses.
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Post by dan Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:20 am

Yes, as we contemplate the night sky 🌌, we are having a direct experience of cosmic Agape.

Science has done its best to obfuscate our vantage.    

It tells us that we are having a direct experience back to the Big Bang.  

I used to believe that.

That was a deliberate deception.  

It was the best possible deception.  

We are having a direct experience of the artfulness of the cosmic mind.  

All the other stuff……..?

It is the relativity of Being.

There is no rest for the weary 😮💨.

It is Monadnock or bust.



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Post by Foot Mann Mon Sep 13, 2021 4:36 pm

The Chicken is the sole survivor of a long list of those who touched the RAM. How does the Chicken walk through pandemics and protected relics? During a recent funeral, one of the attendees attempted to knock off the Chicken with toxic stew. The Chicken stumbled a bit, but soon was back in order.

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Post by dan Tue Sep 14, 2021 5:06 am

We’re down on the Blue Ridge…… southern Virginia.  

Very little reception down here.

Even the chick 🐣 has managed to undersell consciousness.  

Folks talk about the unity of consciousness…… meaning many different things.  

The modern person thinks he wanders around inside his own little head, watching the Cartesian theater between his ears 👂.  

What a silly thing to think.  

But if that’s not right, what the heck is going on?  

Who are we, and what is the world?  

We are not lost in space…… we’re lost between our ears.

It is a bit claustrophobic.



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Post by GSB Tue Sep 14, 2021 1:26 pm

Ah, so!

Hi Gary,

I wish you would avoid broadcasting such nonsense.

Ron


On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 6:15 PM, Gary S Bekkum wrote:

Recently Dan Smith relayed at https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t175p1005-hello-cy-omf-ii-part-2  that Ron Pandolfi was currently involved in preparing a test of the GN device:

Things started out with a bang, with my being labled a Chicom fellow traveller, all because, when confronted with Gordon Novel's RAM redivivus, I resorted to making a phone call to BL on the advisability of jumping ship.  

Yes, BL is in the pay of a notorious Chinese finacier who has designs on the Mainland....... more power to him or her.  What do I tell BL that I don't already blog?  Well, you provide Bill with personal insights that might not come across on the blog.  Hmmm........ So some Chicoms will pay big bucks for personal annecdotes relative to the R&D show!  Wow.  Maybe they're not as stupid as they look.  

Back to RAM, replicated alien mechanism.  After decades of declaring Gordon's insanity, I am told that he was sitting on a goldmine, all along.  Don't we know it.  And, Ron, our national hero, is, with the help of a New Mexican and a Frenchman, one named Toby, within three weeks of going operational with the real RAM.  And, somehow, this may mitigate the worst of the calamity that is still scheduled for September, 2016.

Co-conspirators are Buzzy and Cookie, the Krongard, Blackwater/CIA, brothers, local Gilman boys, and James Woolsey.  In this RAM intrigue, the brothers wear the black hat, and Jim wears the white hat.  

Also close to the RAM truth are the Pauls, Price and Murad.  The former has written three books on RAM, and his SCAIF 2012 talk was introduced by Murad.  

How am I to contend with this Heavy Metal??  Do I have to throw myself in front of the Alien Machine?  


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Post by dan Thu Sep 16, 2021 12:57 am

Physics and consciousness were destined to collide.  

The ground zero of that collision was going to be the smart phone 📱.

Persons are going to survive the collision.  

Persons are going to come out on top 🔝.  

We will learn that there is only one of us.  

We will learn that there is only one consciousness…… universally shared.

There is only one I Am.  

Well, there are two, but they are joined at the hip.

This knowledge will metamorphose us from the cancer ♋ to the Chrysalis, as we become one with the One.  

Was every one of the 10^10 of us essential?

Make no mistake……. God has numbered every hair on our head.

The 10^10 of us exist in Eternity, alongside the One.

We are joined at the hip.

Go ahead and disbelieve that the Truth is One, and that the Truth will out……. much sooner than later.  

The Truth is love…… is Agape.  

The best possible Everything is Pratītyasamutpāda.  

Hate is parasitic and self defeating.

The Truth was only biding it’s time….. for the smart phone 📱.

See, and you will believe.



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Post by dan Thu Sep 16, 2021 1:53 am

Walt will come through…….. in a pinch.

Yes, give the I Am an IPhone…… and it’s just about all over.

All we need now is a fast train 🚂 to Mongolia 🇲🇳.

Oh, wait……. I think they already have one……

All ye, all ye, in free…….

The first shoe 👞 dropped some time ago.

Folks have been waiting for the second one ☝…….



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