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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Thu Sep 16, 2021 9:16 am

    Denying consciousness is tantamount to denying God…… and vice versa.  

    Our best and brightest have striven to deny the nose on their face…… a studied ignorance.  

    Is the cosmic Pleroma really between our ears……. talk about microcosms.

    We love nothing better than to compartmentalize the Truth.  

    It is death with a thousand cuts.  

    We mark out our territories on Monadnock 🏔.

    Good fences make good neighbors.  

    However, consciousness knows no boundaries.  

    Is there a vault that consciousness cannot penetrate?  

    We have codes that cannot be cracked……. except that they can.

    Store up your treasure not in Bitcoin.

    But we will forget.



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    Post by dan Thu Sep 16, 2021 9:52 am

    Each one of us is an I Am.

    Gottfried preached the identity of indiscernibles…….. which is to say that there is only one Soul.

    The Logos cannot be dissected…… try though we might.

    The Stoics understood this. They came up with the Logos Spermatikos/Atomos.



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    Post by dan Fri Sep 17, 2021 6:34 am

    1230z…….

    chick has alleged the existence of information Tinkerbell.  

    What little proof I have is mostly of a personal nature, ie. not fungible…… as is most all of this information.  If it were, we wouldn’t need the gold standard.  

    It is further alleged that Reagan, shortly prior to announcing, received this information, via two, along with information privy to Teller…… pertaining to Trinity.  

    Presumably, Reagan had access to his own information, in a fashion similar to what Trump might have had. You do have to bring something to the table.  

    chick had information Omega……. it weren’t nuttin.  

    Where does this leave Disclosure…… besides twisting in the wind…… as it has been doing for the last couple of millennia?


    1400……..

    The Taliban may figure into Disclosure, because they are honest and tough.  

    Chevre man is angling for an endorsement from Trump.  Three mediates.  

    Two concurs that completing the network, with maybe two more locations, would likely coincide with Disclosure.

    Talks with the Taliban could be held in Doha.  

    Flying on location is alleged to somehow be part of some aspect.  I have no clue.  

    How do we avoid crowding at the exits, or what if no one wanted to leave?  

    There will be logistical issues plus carrot and stick issues.  


    1500…….

    Do I believe in a personal God, like some father figure in Heaven that we might pray to?  

    I do pray, in rather informal, succinct manner.  

    I guess I believe in our better angels…… our higher selves…… our place holders in Heaven.  

    I suppose the jguy has a special spot.  

    But I wouldn’t want to second guess the I Am on this matter.  

    We have the logistical problems to occupy us.  

    Yes, we can sit down and have a beer 🍻 with the I Am, and probably already have, in one guise or another.  

    These things work themselves out, and probably already have……. sub specie aeternitatis.  

    And, in some sense, the SoT has also got to be the Antichrist….. most would see it that way.  


    2210……..

    Is the world descending into chaos?

    foot thinks not. The takeover of the Taliban has brought greater stability to Afghanistan, for instance.

    What about the financial system? No comment.

    Maybe bitcoins are the answer to global financial questions.



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    Post by dan Sat Sep 18, 2021 6:03 am

    Perhaps Chivo had finally come around, but it seems that it was too much for his system to bear.
    ……..

    If Chivo was emblematic of anything, it does not bode well for Disclosure.  

    Agnosticism, if carried to the extreme that Chivo carried it, can easily become an unbearable psychic burden.  

    My gestalt switch from materialism to immaterialism was blessedly short and sweet.  I was unencumbered with any professional responsibilities or expectations.  

    In the increasingly stormy weather we need some ballast to keep upright/oriented.  

    Trump provided that ballast…… that tether, for the many who had lost faith in any traditional or conventional worldview.  

    This is where personalism becomes a cult…… where we deny our own personhood.  

    This is where the cult leader preys upon our insecurities and confusions…… with an untethered belief in his own godlike powers.  

    Where does foot fit into this picture?  

    Given his alleged background, you would think he would be able to see through the pretenses of any mortal politician.  

    I suppose that he does, but he is also able to blend in with most any political crowd.  

    Whether deliberate or not, his political leanings certainly provide chick 🐣 with ample cover……. rather too much, most would imagine.  

    Chivo’s prospective disappearance, does nothing to reduce my exposure.  

    Meanwhile, I continue to ride shotgun for the Truth……. with no replacements in sight.  

    Bernardo Kastrup demonstrates the difficulty for any professional to grasp onto more than one aspect of the Truth…… or to put it into an historical context…… to see the rather obvious Metanarrative.  

    I certainly don’t doubt that the Eschaton is able to bide its own time.  

    It was some time ago that I gave up on a pre-Millennial advent of the Truth.  

    It is reasonably clear that no imaginable mundane society will survive a full-frontal with the MoAPS.  

    It’s only a question of whether anything resembling a graceful exodus can be orchestrated.  

    It could well be that our Exodus will entail a close encounter with the Abyssal depths.  

    We may be lucky if we can just avoid entanglement in a cosmic Knot 🪢 on our way back to the Source.  

    Encountering our Dark Night of the Soul on a global scale will be our nightmare scenario.  

    Surviving for three and a half years of such a Tribulation would be optimistic, indeed.  

    Could even a global Taliban provide any shelter in that storm?  

    We might consider ourselves blessed, if the full onslaught of the Tribulation can conclude as swiftly.  



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    Post by Foot Mann Sat Sep 18, 2021 11:26 am

    With the fat ugly guy temporarily absent from the blog, I will proceed with accepting applications for a new Left Foot. No limp wrist liberals need apply. I am looking for someone who can stand with the Taliban and engage the Chick in a substantive debate. Only in this manner can the events unfold that must.

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    Post by dan Sat Sep 18, 2021 12:48 pm

    I don’t know what there is to debate, at this point.  

    We have to understand what situation we are facing, before we can decide how best to deal with it.  

    Are we here by some evolutionary accident or not?  

    If we are here by accident, I have nothing to contribute to the discussion.  

    It will simply be a negative-sum game of survival, with the spoils going to the most ruthless.  

    Once our infrastructure starts breaking down, I would except a dieback of 99%…… and a nearly complete collapse of civilization.  

    The only thing to look forward to is a repetition of the breakdown process every few generations, and that is being optimistic about a species survival, at all.  

    On the plus side, the problem of climate change would be dealt with in a hurry.  

    On the other hand, if we are not here by accident, we have many possibilities to discuss…… at least until we examine them more carefully.  

    I examined the obvious possibilities for about five years, until I was able to rule out any sort of Cartesian dualism.  

    I was unable to make any sense of any dualism, Cartesian or otherwise.  

    If there is to be a common ground for discussion, there must be a common ground to our being.  

    And, if the common ground is not to be found in matter, it must be located in our minds.  

    Before any substantive discussion is even found to be possible, we necessarily agree that mind provides the foundation of reality…… that mind is the ground of all being.  

    If mind is epiphenomenal within Natrure, the centripetal forces pulling us apart can hardly be tamed, other than in the most contingent….. the most fragile of circumstances.  

    If our cohesion is to be robust, it must be based on a commonality that is rooted in our whole being.  

    If we are looking for commonality, we must start from a metaphysical monism.  This monism is to be found in mysticism, almost by definition.  

    The opposite of mysticism is gnosticism, which does tend to be divisive, and that is putting it mildly.  

    Right away, this division pits the East against the West, certainly from any historical perspective.  

    It is only thanks to scientific materialism and secular humanism that global intercourse has been possible.  

    The question before us is whether secular humanism will suffice to bring us through the impending turbulence.  

    If the answer is even doubtful, then we, metaphysicians, have our work cut out for us.  

    If scientific monism comes up short, our only alternative is metaphysical monism.  

    The radical nature of our existential predicament demands that we think outside the scientific box.  

    We will soon get to see just how open minded we are.  

    Yes, of course, most everyone will continue their political and economic discussions and power plays….. our absence will hardly be noticed.  

    However, if there is any longer range hope for humanity, it will have to be found in a dimension beyond the material.  

    And then we can circle back to the Taliban.  

    Surely they have found a cohesion beyond the material.  

    They have just taken over a whole country…… barely firing a shot.  

    However, they would have looked rather silly without their M16s.  

    Prophetic fundamentalism diametrically opposes mystical monism.  

    But just how deep does that opposition really go?  

    It seems that our religious fault lines are only being drawn deeper, on an almost daily basis.  

    Hope is always a long shot, but especially now.  

    Desperation, however, can focus the mind.  My mind focuses on portals.  

    How could portals overcome millennia of spiritual warfare?  

    Well, how is scientific materialism like a balloon 🎈?  

    One portal, and it’s all gone.  

    Modernism is a mile wide and an inch deep.  

    I’m suggesting that the Taliban have access to a portal.  

    Yes, this is an extreme instance of speculation on my part, but let’s go figure…….



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    Post by GSB Sat Sep 18, 2021 8:01 pm

    "Are we here by some evolutionary accident or not?" asked the woolly one.




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    Post by GSB Sat Sep 18, 2021 8:13 pm

    "If there is to be a common ground for discussion, there must be a common ground to our being.  And, if the common ground is not to be found in matter, it must be located in our minds. Before any substantive discussion is even found to be possible, we necessarily agree that mind provides the foundation of reality … that mind is the ground of all being."

    "So big and flat and round, it needs a wide sounding name ... like ou, ound, round, ground, that's it! Hello ground!"



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    Post by dan Sat Sep 18, 2021 11:51 pm

    Before we do portals, we need to know what we’re talking about.

    First and foremost, a portal is not an object.

    It’s a zone…… you know when you’re in the zone.  

    It’s very personal.

    It’s a very personal sort of synchronicity…… your ducks just line up.

    It can easily verge into a twilight zone.  

    Yes, you have to throw yourself into it, but you can’t imagine doing anything else, and you don’t want to quit.  

    The tumblers on the combination lock fall into place.  

    You find the sweet spot.  

    This is how the Taliban took over Afghanistan…… they found the sweet spot.  

    This is how entrepreneurship comes about.  

    Technology has very little to do with it, but technology will come along for the ride……. technology can grease the skids.

    So, now you know.

    There is one thing you absolutely cannot do…… you cannot force a portal.

    You cannot rush the gates of Heaven.  

    They will open when they are good and ready.  

    You will know when the global synchronicity gets underway.

    It will be slow at first, but it will be unmistakable.  

    Then you’ll be wishing it would slow down.  

    This is how Disclosure will come about.

    We have a design on Disclosure…… make no mistake about it.  

    And who is ’we’?  It’s easy to say. It’s hard to say.

    But, hey, it’s just like magic.  

    They were the best of times…… they were the worst of times.

    11Then Pharaoh also called the wise men and the sorcerers: now the magicians of Egypt, they also did in like manner with their enchantments. 12For they cast down every man his rod, and they became serpents: but Aaron's rod swallowed up their rods. 13And he hardened Pharaoh's heart, that he listened not to them;



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    Post by GSB Sun Sep 19, 2021 6:42 am

    "It’s a very personal sort of synchronicity…… your ducks just line up."

    But do your woolly ones?

    Deus ex machina -- a plot device whereby a seemingly unsolvable problem in a story is suddenly and abruptly resolved by an unexpected and unlikely occurrence (aka ask the whale).


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    Post by dan Sun Sep 19, 2021 7:03 am

    Sorry, Gary,

    I’m not following you, here.
    ……….


    Of course, there can also be negative synchronicity, depending on your PoV.  

    The abduction phenomenon can be that, although there is speculation that the ‘victim’ may have volunteered, on another level, but then things get very complicated very quickly.  This is certainly not a justification for rape and murder, for instance.  


    In an immaterial world all phenomena derive from other dimensions.

    They are pratītyasamutpāda.  

    Everything is magical at its base.

    Physics has demonstrated this…… beyond reasonable doubt.  

    So what is there to disclose?  

    The MoAPS is old news.  

    The Eschaton has to be disclosed.

    In many regards, the sky 🌌 is already falling, but not quite definitively….. so says chicken little 🐣.  

    We’ll know when it starts….. definitely.  We will be able to pinpoint the start……. retroactively…… personally.  

    There will be an SoT/X2.  

    I’m wondering what a plane, a small plane, in particular, might have to do with it.  

    In the lore, there are tarmac events.  

    Why would there not be events aloft?  There probably have been.  

    In a military transport to the Canaries, my dad noticed that they were an hour late.  On the ground, the pilot was visibly relieved 😅.  By some stretch, it might have been a portal event.  This was reminiscent of my first solo….. cross country….. cherokee six niner whiskey, do you have traffic at nine o’clock……. american two eleven, do you have a cherokee at twelve o’clock?  Synchronicity was brought to bear.  Afterwards, chick 🐣 gave NYC a wide berth.

    Will a Doha round come to pass?  Que passa?  

    We are all walking portals of the Source…… of the I Am.  

    Atoms are portals, not in their own right, but if you factor in their role in the Logos Atomos.  
    ……..


    How do we account for the phases of matter, if not with objective atoms ⚛?  

    How do we account for terra firma?  

    We do need a level playing field.  We do need a literal ground of Being.  

    Do we need food?

    Do we need to reproduce?

    An immaterialist affords first priority to the why questions.  

    Where there is a will, there will be a way.  

    So, yes, we do need a Logos Atomos.  

    We do need binary bits.  

    We do need legos.  

    It would be amusing to see the Taliban out in front on Disclosure.  

    Do they deserve to be?  Yes, to a degree.  

    What group might be second?  

    Israel would have to be in the lineup.  They were promised a straight up messiah.  

    The jguy, admittedly, necessarily, was a curveball.  

    Every traumatic event is a portal, even by definition.  

    The initiation of Disclosure may be traceable to the green light given by three.  Ostensibly that was a few months ago.  

    Could there be more than a year before it hits the wire services…… in one form or another?

    I wouldn’t bet on it.  

    How unmistakable will it be?  

    It will be something more definitive than tic tacs.  

    That was a bit of a false start.  Someone may have been trying to jump the gun.  

    When will the Eschaton join the parade?

    It will be the 800# gorilla 🦍 breathing on the curtain.  

    Joe Firmage could be the sacrificial lamb 🐑.  

    If Trump so much as breathes his name, he would be outed in less than a day.  

    Many ducks have been lined up……. take your pick.  
    ………..


    What will portals be, after Disclosure?

    Will they become more objective?

    Yes, certainly in the sense of being inter subjective.

    They might become comparable to abduction scenarios.



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    Post by Foot Mann Sun Sep 19, 2021 6:49 pm

    First day on the job and I want to begin by discussing the difference between disclosure and disinformation. Disclosure is a noun for the action of making veridical information known. Disinformation is false information which is intended to mislead, especially propaganda issued by a government organization or the media. Discloser is a person who provides  information. So is the Chicken a discloser of veridical information or disinformation? Based on what I have seen today, I must conclude that the Chicken is a discloser of disinformation. The Princess shared communications with at least one candidate for the US Presidency that included information provided to the Chicken from the 8 hours of testimony by experts on the COVID vaccine. It included a set of rather complete quotes including those by Viral immunologist and biologist Dr. Jessica Rose. Despite that the veracity of these quotes could easily be determined by comparison with the transcript, the Chicken twice denied veracity of these quotes, instead referring to disinformation from the New York Times. The Chicken may know Jesus, but he is not Jesus. His mission is not to disclose veridical information that could save lives and souls. His mission is to destroy. I have an open mind and will continue to read and contribute to the blog for the duration of my tenure. For those who want to hear her testimony: https://twitter.com/i/status/1438935548664688643
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    Post by dan Sun Sep 19, 2021 7:09 pm

    Foot§§,

    You start off here by attempting to engage me in a medical issue that is very much off topic.  

    Ron has tried, on numerous occasions, to embroil me in the covid topic.  

    The Princess and I have decided to move on.  

    I kindly request that we do likewise.  
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    Moving on…….

    What is your understanding with regard to portals?

    I’m having difficulty understanding how bodies interact with portals.

    So I’m turning to John 20…….

    Jesus is alleged to have risen bodily from his tomb.  

    Christians generally believe that resurrected bodies are ‘glorified’, albeit with stigmata when relevant.  

    Does chick 🐣 have a dog 🐶 in this fight?

    Not really, but I am motivated to bring coherence to spiritual questions, where possible.  

    The alleged portal phenomena may help to shed light on the question of bodily resurrection.  



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    Post by GSB Sun Sep 19, 2021 7:44 pm

    "First and foremost, a portal is not an object.

    It’s a zone…… you know when you’re in the zone.

    It’s very personal.

    It’s a very personal sort of synchronicity…… your ducks just line up.

    It can easily verge into a twilight zone.

    Yes, you have to throw yourself into it, but you can’t imagine doing anything else, and you don’t want to quit.

    The tumblers on the combination lock fall into place.

    You find the sweet spot.
    "

    Portal = https://www.britannica.com/art/deus-ex-machina

    (Latin: “god from the machine”) a person or thing that appears or is introduced into a situation suddenly and unexpectedly and provides an artificial or contrived solution to an apparently insoluble difficulty.


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    Post by dan Mon Sep 20, 2021 5:56 am

    Gary,  

    Yes, the Deus ex Machina is an aspect of the portal phenomenon.  

    But be careful that you don’t slide into dualism.
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    Post by GSB Tue Sep 21, 2021 5:38 am

    We do not think causal fundamentalism is true. Neither
    do we think there must be a fundamental direction of time. However, rejecting them is
    not part of our view about laws; agnosticism about them is sufficient for our purposes.
    On MinP, there can be but need not be fundamental causal relations, and there can
    be but need not be a fundamental direction of time. Even if they existed, they would
    not be essential to how laws explain. Hence, MinP carves out conceptual space for
    non-Humeans such as ourselves who believe that laws govern but do not demand causal
    fundamentalism, a fundamental direction of time, or dynamic production.
    This paper has been written by a philosopher of physics and a mathematical physicist. It is written for mathematicians, physicists, and philosophers who are interested in
    the nature of physical laws. Since the topic is deeply philosophical, the first few sections
    are intended as a non-technical introduction to some philosophical background.


    Eddy Keming Chen∗ and Sheldon Goldstein†
    September 21, 2021

    https://arxiv.org/pdf/2109.09226.pdf


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    Post by dan Thu Sep 23, 2021 12:40 pm

    Gary,

    Thank you for bringing this article to our attention.  

    Eddy and Sheldon are using very conservative language to state that they are throwing causality under the bus.
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    Utah's weird science adventure continues or “Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from MAJIC” ;-)

    https://www.techbuzz.news/utah-s-brandon-fugal-invests-in-resurrection-of-woolly-mammoth/


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    Post by dan Fri Sep 24, 2021 8:21 am

    1420z……

    Gary,

    In my estimation, Brandon Fugal is a showman and an idiot, to boot.  

    The end of the Mammoths 🦣 was contemporaneous with the Alpha point of personal/phenomenal history, some 6,000 years ago.  

    In accord with Owen Barfield, I do not believe in the phenomenal existence of dinosaurs 🦕.  

    I believe in the logical existence of the Big Bang and dinosaurs.  

    And what is the distinction between phenomenal and logical existence?

    Well, with our radio telescopes, we can still the hear the sizzle of the Big Bang……. the microwave background radiation ☢.  

    How phenomenal is that?

    How phenomenal are stars or a sunburn 🥵?

    How phenomenal are portals?

    How phenomenal are numbers?  

    The phenomenal has to with sentience.  

    The logical has to do with sapience.  

    The Sun 🌞 has phenomenal existence…… the Milky Way 🌌 has logical existence.  

    Birds 🦅 can navigate by the stars 🌌.

    Existence with science is perfectly flat…… yes or no….. well, except for numbers.  

    Interpersonal/phenomenal existence is much more entangled….. more relative.  

    All I’m suggesting is the the I Am explains more about the qualitative  world.

    The Big Bang exaplains more more about the quantitative world.  

    But numbers are nothing, if not interpersonal.  

    Where is the dividing line between the world of Presence and the world of Absence?  


    1640……….

    The I Am is both present and absent.  

    The Big Bang is only absent.  

    The I Am constitutes the core of our being.  

    The Big Bang constitutes……. a touchstone of Absence.

    The absence of atoms and prehistory is similar.

    The absence of numbers, mathematics and logic is of another order.

    What about the Logos?  

    Well, it is at the core of our sapience…… if not of our being.  



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    Post by dan Sat Sep 25, 2021 10:06 am

    1600z…….

    Well, atoms are present indirectly, and the Big Bang is present in its atomic residue.  

    All of this is heavily theory laden.  

    Can Presence really be theory laden?

    Absence is what is theory laden.

    With the dark night of the soul, we have the presence of absence.  

    That is the same with grieving.  

    The fact that the I Am is at the core of our being……. can that fact ever be more than theory laden?  

    Well, this presence is experienced communally……. at gatherings of various sorts, or particularly in conversations…….. or through art and literature.  We are social beings, at our core.  That is more than a theory.  

    Of course, being social can be explained away as nothing more than a survival skill.  For a scientific materialist, everything can be explained away, except for atoms, perhaps.  

    Or, why is there something, rather than nothing?  

    We hang onto that something for or dear lives.  

    How could we not invest the something with a cosmic significance?

    There are folks who are quick to ridicule our tendency toward the cosmic, citing particularly the religious strife and the many ways in which our cosmic proclivities have been exploited.  

    The same Logos that has led us to scientific materialism also drags us into our cosmic questioning…… questing.  

    Our curiosity cannot be constrained to ask only the how questions…… inevitably we get to why……..


    1840……….

    I don’t understand why the physical logistics of portals should cause us such a fit.  

    We are merely tunneling from one dream world to another.  

    But what about teleportation or time travel?  

    Explain those logistics.  

    Explain the biological component.  

    What about the alleged resurrection?  Are we talking multiple bodies?  

    In what form might we be able to imagine Chevre man going to Brazil?   
    ……..


    If this is the best possible world, then portals should be possible, but only under exceptional circumstances.  

    Otherwise, they would be abused or exploited.  

    There would have to be controls.  

    There would have to be personal oversight……. of course…… until near the End.  

    But that does not explain how they might function, in the meantime.  

    Would there be bi-location, for instance?  

    Bi-location would not be for free.  There would be conservation laws that would have to be observed or worked around.  

    Balance would have to be maintained between the mass and energy accounts…… between remote times and locations.  

    Remote viewing is one thing, but bi-location is quite another.



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    Post by GSB Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:40 pm

    Dan: In accord with Owen Barfield, I do not believe in the phenomenal existence of dinosaurs 🦕

    Dan gets a phenomenal lesson in the existence of dinosaurs and the consequences of their resurrection ... "Boy do I hate being right all the time ..." ;-)



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    DEFENSE

    'A total lack of focus': Lawmaker on a mission to compel Pentagon to take UFOs seriously

    https://www.politico.com/news/2021/09/25/lawmaker-pentagon-ufo-514287


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    Post by dan Sun Sep 26, 2021 7:44 am

    Poor Gary,

    Whether by design or confusion, he has a considerable proclivity toward misconstruing my words.  

    I don’t doubt that prehistoric animals could be reconstructed, and thus become a part of our phenomenal history, which we may suppose extends for ~ 6,000 years.  

    The rest of the 14 billion year history of the universe is simply an artifact of the Logos.  

    Hominid prehistory extends back for several million years to the to the first use of stone tools.  

    Do I not believe in the Stone Age?  

    I do not believe that we could teleport to the Stone Age.

    Could we not teleport to the nearly contemporary Stone Age peoples of New Guinea 🇬🇳, or other such uncontacted peoples?  

    Or what about the Blue Nun who teleported from Spain to New Spain back in the 1600s?  She was alleged to have been the first contact with the Jumano tribes.  

    How did the entanglement of that portal transition work?

    I believe that there was an historical entanglement that would not have been the case for prehistoric tribes.  

    So, no, Gary, we could not teleport to Paleolithic age of Dinosaurs 🦖.

    There was no there, there.  It was simply an artifact of the Logos.  

    The same would be true for interstellar travel.  

    Could a person not teleport to the Moon or Mars?  

    One could remote view them, but teleportation would require the entanglement with other sapients.  

    Angel encounters are simply teleportations from other dimensions.  

    It is typical of such encounters to be, at least, quasi physical.  

    Should we be worried about E = MC^2 in such transitions?  

    How can any object with mass appear or disappear without violating the conservation of mass/energy?  

    Or, if matter is an illusion, how do we explain nuclear ☢ explosions?

    We have only to suppose that nuclear weapons and human bodies entail two very different types of entanglement.  

    Nuclear and chemical blasts constitute a special sort of entanglement.

    You might wish to see Gaston Bachelard’s Psychoanalysis of Fire 🔥, for instance.  

    Actually, Gaston may have been a forerunner of Owen Barfield.  

    Gaston was, quite clearly, the father of the concept of the Paradigm Shift…….. well, not actually……..

    The history of the concept of Scientific Revolutions is covered by the SEP.  Incidentally, Thomas Kuhn was very late onto this scene.  

    Will the acknowledgment of portals simply be another scientific revolution?  

    I suggest that it will be the Revolution to end all revolutions……. the mother of all paradigm shifts (MoAPS).  

    It will be the end of physics and the beginning of eschatological metaphysics.  

    The internet has only one function…… the expediting of this global gestalt switch.  

    Is the internet the mother of all entanglements?

    No, but it will surely be the technical activator of the Eschaton.  

    Ron has figured out this much.  

    Après nous, la déluge.  
    ………


    Ultimately, all entanglement must be filtered through sapience.  

    It must be filtered through the Logos…… the I Am.  

    What about chemical reactions that cause fire 🔥 and explosions 💥?  

    Are they atomic or psychic?  

    Are they inter-atomic or inter-personal?  

    How do portals differ between the mundane and extra-mundane?

    How does the historical context come into play?



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    Post by Foot Mann Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:00 am

    With no Left Feet available, I decided to hop back on the blog and compliment Mr. Smith who demonstrated extreme patience while imparting some insight into 2.5. Now struggling to achieve a breakthrough before the pendulum returns, I provided a bit of context with oscillations on a smaller scale into hope that Mr. Smith might achieve a real breakthrough with portal power.

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