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Who's Disclosure is Disclosure?

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The narrative war is in full swing. When there's a 100 different competing narratives, how is it possible to discern a disclosure?

Is it akin to which truth is Truth?




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Post by smelly da goat Thu Aug 05, 2021 10:16 pm

Oh boy.

FatThorDude doesn’t do cults.

Not a one.

Fuck em all.

You are one of her drones chim chim churoo.

You and Dan and left 🦶 are weak minded muppets.

You can be in whatever cult you want.

Nothing is ending but you.

Oh brother.

Let me remind you pretender.

You are dead.

You are already dead.

No one wants to accept it.

That’s cool.

Make it all up.

Your life is just made up.

Mormons are idiots, like all muppets who believe in books or listen to angels.

FatThorDude and smelly don't pick sides or believe in gods, or books, or take any muppets word for anything unless we smell the gold.

We certainly don’t talk to angels 👼

You see gold is selfless.

It always points you toward the one behind yourself.

The ☝ tapping on your shoulder.

The one riding you like a horse.

Who is that?

You are that and that is you.

Gold raises you up.

Your proper response to gold is to be golden.

I do not cover my face in shit in a cult or claim anything.

I am literally nothing behind a shit mask.

We meet on cold mountain or we don’t.

We don’t care who shows up.

And we know if they know.

There is a little gold in Dan.

The best amount.

Hopefully some of it rubs off on left foot.

I don’t care what muppets meet other muppets.

But no one has anything for you.

Not one.

Dan definitely has nothing for anyone.

I have nothing for anyone.

I know you don’t.

You can only find it yourself with yourself.

And then it isn’t what you thought it was.

It is just this.

I dropped all else.

I gave it all I had, if one doesn’t, really, stfu weak minded muppets.

Get it done and then the queen will bow to you.

The gods will lift you up.

The ones I don’t believe in.

No god wants your belief.

They seem like they want to see you bleed and squeal.

But really, they want to hear you roar 🦁  

Some may not be rooting for you.

Fuck them, do it anyway.

Cause you are the center of the sun and the darkest blackness.

Believe that.

I just like pointing to nothing around people with points.

Smelly is too smelly to be a drone.

That’s why he stays on Cold Mountain 🏔 now.

I leave him offerings.

No one is as smelly as smelly.

My hero.

🐐💨

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Post by aaron Thu Aug 05, 2021 11:27 pm

Go figure

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Post by aaron Fri Aug 06, 2021 12:04 pm

Scribble nonsense on a paper and tell a goat to eat it, that’s exactly what the goat will do.



Go figure

“You're Ned Stark's bastard, aren't you?“
Jon felt a coldness pass right through him. He pressed his lips together and said nothing.

“Did I offend you?“ Lannister said.

“Sorry. Dwarfs don't have to be tactful. Generations of capering fools in motley have won me the right to dress badly and say any damn thing that comes into my head.“

He grinned. “You are the bastard, though.“



“I am a bastard, too. I love bastards! I am bastard begot, bastard instructed, bastard in mind, bastard in valor, in everything illegitimate” - Author: William Shakespeare

“We cannot change our fate, but we can rise to meet it” -princess mononoke

May the gold reveal itself to itself onward into eternity and oblivion.

Onward naked golden child, onward.

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Post by dan Fri Aug 06, 2021 3:47 pm

Today, we had lunch at Chuy’s.  Princess defended both Chèvre 🧀 man and science, and scoffed at life after death…….. bless her heart ♥.  Clearly, she was in a contrarian frame.  

Last evening, at the Palace, there were several referees as Joe and I were allowed to take the gloves 🧤 off, as gentlemen can be wont to do.  Joe and Doug were on zoom, and the rest of us, including Rob T were gathered around an outdoor fire.  

We more or less agreed to disagree.  

Now we will move on, with Joe entertaining the Capital, and possibly the UN.  

Poor chick 🐣.  

Old chicks never die, we just loose our feathers…… as long as the Princess 👸 doesn’t chortle too loudly.  

But, no, we survived to fight another day.  

Clearly, the best possible Disclosure has Joe as the point person.  

We just keep our powder dry…… baby steps and all that.  

But the main thing was the consolation lunch.  Contrarian though she can be, I know that she is saving the last dance for chick 🐣.  

Just don’t ask me to prove it.  

We’re going to have to keep the faith, during these early stages of Disclosure.

Fear not, the Truth will out.

The Truth can afford to be patient.

We who have the last laugh………



(cont……..)

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Post by aaron Fri Aug 06, 2021 6:10 pm

Nobody can know what is after death.

The only death is the death of fear and the only end is the end of knowing.

I am cautious of trusting any with a fixed position on death.

“ The Tao that can be discussed is not really the Tao. Things in the world are only temporary reflections of Tao. The flow of Tao is all that really exists. Our language and beliefs and categories Are only fabrications which help us make sense of its flow.”

Ultimately, life and death are quite inseparable.

The body can’t know if it is alive or dead.

That’s the ground of being.

The center might drop out or become more elastic, but the psyche doesn’t just disappear completely.

The body and mind are merged here doing just this.

This is the beauty of being.

Every moment lives in eternity.

Every word a dance with daat.

Wink
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Post by smelly da goat Fri Aug 06, 2021 8:52 pm

Muppets will never learn.

But there are a few human beings about.

You have to be one to know one.

The invisible church knows who are members.

So the Gnostics say.

They think all you Catholics and Christians are fooled liars.

They got that right.

You are transparent.

You are gold or you smell like crap.

Nothing gold can stay.

The Princess is a child.

Being a child is a fine thing.

Don’t grow up until you are ready.
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Post by dan Sat Aug 07, 2021 4:06 am

1000z……..

Poor Chim……. “nobody can know life after death.”

How silly.  If you’re a time traveler 🧳, me thinks you’ve got a pretty good idea.  

Princesses can be ornery, but some don’t have an ornery bone 🦴 in their body.

But don’t get me wrong 😑, I would not want to see her bad side…… not in a million years.  

There is no life after death……..

Of course not, silly, because there is no death.  

Just as there is no Eschaton……..

But, just you wait…….

You’ll see…….

Every one of us has some handle on the Truth.

We just have to figure out which person has what handle.

And it helps to have a score card.  

The Princess 👸 is my score card.  

It’s wings in the air and boots 🥾 on the ground.  

Never are her sandals 🩴 closer to the ground when she is raking out the chicken coop in her garden 🪴.  

You would need an electron microscope 🔬 to determine that her sandals were not quite touching the ground.  

The rest of us might pretend to have a coop…… the Princess 👸 can embrace a coop like none other.  

This is from knowing the other side…… like she owns the other side…..in as much as anyone can own it…… Queen of the Hive.  

On the other hand, we have Mr Rattling cage.  

Take your pick……. and no hurry, because we have all the time in the world 🌎.  

Am I just slightly biased……. in favor of my goddaughter?  


1430……..

Was I too easy on Joe?  

All I had to do was ask if he believed in the soul.

With that one question, Joe would have been crushed.  

But, somehow, sitting around the campfire 🔥, with the Princess 👸 holding my hand, I just didn’t have it in me to want to make Joe cry Crying or Very sad.



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Post by smelly da goat Sat Aug 07, 2021 11:28 am

Birth and death occur.

What of it?

What does it matter what we say or think about them?

They happen.

Life they say is eternal and birth and death occur within it.

In the ancient world, the gods had to lift you up, or off to the underworld with you.

Deep myths, maybe genetic.

We do each have a handle and part of this.

I don’t need princesses to validate this.

A soul?

There are myths the souls were made from a mysterious substance and given charge over the earth.

But they desired more and were condemned to toil in physical bodies and earn their way into the heavens.

The Christians stole this myth from the Jews who stole it from the Egyptians who got it from god.

What is Atman (the Soul in Hindu), Soul (Western), Consciousness (Western or Eastern religions) and the connection each has, if any, with their God?

Some possibilities.

'It is all Placebo!', 'It is all in the mind!', 'You are what you dream!', 'To each his own!', 'God is Mind!'

Which answer is correct?

All of them?

None.

Whose stories and myths are true?

No one can tell you.

You have to feel your way through this.

Into the wilderness.

There is a word called 'moksha' which is common to both Hinduism and Buddhism. It means liberation or freedom from 'samsara', except in Buddhism 'samsara' means 'cycle of life and rebirth', but in Hinduism it means 'cycle of life and reincarnation'.

So they line up with the ancient theology.

How to escape the curse of rebirth.

Now letting these mind viruses near you is dangerous.

Careful, you might catch a cold.

Escape.

Punishment.

Reincarnation.

To arrive at an immutable proposition based on current, or worse, past historical biblical human knowledge, is not accepting the fact that this world is a world of constant change.

The inconceivable is beyond the bounds of human thinking or consciousness.

We do not know if we are the butterfly.

We do not know!

Why speculate on the inconceivable?

Now tell me what the soul is liars.

Human nature is such that, we take comfort in perceived certainty. We cannot help but “believe” in some­thing, that is, until we find something better or have a better understanding of things.

Religion preaches a certainty and immutability of human spiritual knowledge, and that has the effect of stopping us from thinking for ourselves. Religion wants us to have blind faith and to believe in something or in nothing!

Ideologies are no better, they are far worse.

Trump is now a religion.

It is almost inconceivable.

But simple to understand in the dream.

It is just another prisoner rebellion by muppets who have not learned to free themselves.

So they will enslave the others.

So free yourself and see for yourself what life is.

No one can show you or explain it to you.

Don’t be so foolish to speak of souls.

Don’t be so stupid to think you have it figured out.

But you can come to terms with being.

Really, you can.

You won’t have your answers.

Your desires will not all be fulfilled.

Yuh are just going to have to eat this.

To love this.

And smile like you mean it.

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Post by aaron Sat Aug 07, 2021 11:50 pm

Intoxicated by the Green Man,
One cannot see the forest for the trees.



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Post by dan Mon Aug 09, 2021 2:46 am

0850z………

With Chivo, we see agnosticism turn to nihilism.  

Only persons can afford to be nihilists.  

But can they?

It is an illusion that we can afford to be nihilists.  

We can’t.  

The Trump phenomenon is the result of nihilism.  

Trump is the King of the Nihilists.

All I needed to ask Joe Firmage was what he believed in.  

Joe believes in nothing besides himself.  

In that regard, he takes after Donald Trump.

My soul question would have been somewhat misplaced.  

I don’t believe ultimately in individual souls.  

I believe in individual persons as we struggle to return to the cosmic Soul…… to the I Am.  

Everyone of us constitutes an essential part of the best possible world.  

But we cannot save ourselves individually.  

The first of us shall be last, and the last of us shall be first.  

Whoever considers themselves to be first, must be the last one off of the ship.  

Chivo has no clue.  

Chivo merely has oppositional defiance.  

Chivo attempts to defy the Truth.  

Truth has never been so maligned, as it is, today.

In that sense, Chivo is the King of the Maligners.  

This Malignancy threatens to take down the world.  

Joe Firmage and Donald Trump threaten to take down the World.  

What is the chick 🐣 going to do about it?

I am going to expose Ron Pandolfi.  

Is Ron the Antichrist?  

It is entirely possible.  

He is certainly a Rasputin.  

So why does he embrace the chick 🐣?  

He does so, for dear life.  

Just as does Eric Garza.  

Eric has a fatal attraction to the Truth.  

It will be the End of him.

It will be the End of all of us.

Get used to it…… you’ll never get over it.  

Ron will never be able to withstand the light of day.

Only the Truth can withstand the light of day.

Dawn rapidly approaches……..
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?


Poor Eric…… he will attempt to deny……

Cogito, ergo sum.  

There is only one way to deny the Cogito.  

That is by understanding that the Cogito is the I Am.  

Yes, all of us are already one with the One.  

And, no, try though we might, we cannot fight City 🌆 hall…… not in the End.  


1030………

Please, Eric……..

I beg of you, Eric…….. Please don’t cry Crying or Very sad.  


1310……..

And did I forget to mention……..

No more mister nice chick 🐣!



(cont……..)


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Post by aaron Mon Aug 09, 2021 6:29 am

http://www.thezensite.com/ZenEssays/Philosophical/Truth_and_Zen.html

Our major conclusions are the following. First of all, although the correspondence theory may give an adequate definition of truth, it needs to be supplemented if we want to know how it is possible for such a truth to be acquired in practice.

Ultimately, Aristotle and Thomas desire a theory of truth that will be the cornerstone for explanatory interpretation. Thomas adds to this the application of the theory to events wherein things conform to mind, that is, to events wherein man is in creative transformation of his world.

Thomas (and, to a lesser extent, Aristotle) is also interested in establishing truth as a moral ideal of interpersonal relations, a virtue toward which we should strive if we are to achieve our basic humanity.

The Zen view of truth, on the other hand, has a distinctively different orientation. Rather than explanatory interpretation, Zen is interested in descriptive interpretation. Rather than governing the transformation of nature, the Zen Buddhist tries to be the agent of nature. Rather than setting a moral standard to live up to, the Zen Buddhist achieves his humanity by letting go of external standards of value and by becoming more spontaneous.

In the final analysis, therefore, the Western philosophers stipulate a tension between man and world: as Thomas put it, the mind must conform to things and things to the mind. Harmony is achieved through mutual adaptation.

Zen philosophy, on the other hand, stipulates an essential unity: the tension between man and world is the result of egocentric delusion. If we destroy that delusion, man’s activity—his thinking and his doing— becomes just an expression of nature itself.

Fun article.

Dancing with the chick 🐣 and goat 🐐 dance 💃.
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Post by Foot Mann Mon Aug 09, 2021 8:31 am

As the current defender of the right Foote, I am installing a firewall to ensure against his exposure. Try to get past me chicken!

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Post by jofo Mon Aug 09, 2021 12:59 pm

dan wrote:

Clearly, the best possible Disclosure has Joe as the point person.  

(cont……..)

losing track of my Joe’s, but it would be sad if that spinning contraption is at the center of a disclosure narrative

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Post by dan Mon Aug 09, 2021 3:14 pm

Jofo,

I’m beginning to agree with you about the idiocy of any spinning 😵💫 or non spinning 😵💫 contraption.

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Post by Foot Mann Mon Aug 09, 2021 7:52 pm

I heard the Princess decree that Chickens are smart, but some are not. Only an idiot would call something he does not understand an idiot contraption. No wonder Joe refused the offer of a joint presentation.
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Post by jofo Mon Aug 09, 2021 8:01 pm

for something to be "understood" it has to be comprehensible, intelligible, or at a minimum demonstrable

which one of those is the spinny-thing?
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Post by smelly da goat Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:18 pm

dan wrote:0850z………

With Chivo, we see agnosticism turn to nihilism.  

Only persons can afford to be nihilists.  

But can they?

It is an illusion that we can afford to be nihilists.  

We can’t.  

The Trump phenomenon is the result of nihilism.  
……..)

I’m not a nihilist...I AM

You aren’t too bright cracked egg, but I enjoyed the reaction.

Like sweet ambrosia on my lips.

Very revealing of you.

Thank you.

You are almost naked, get it all out angry muppet.

I can take it.

I can take anything.

I do not cling.

I stand and smile like I mean it.

I was given an assignment.

I don’t give up, even on cracked eggs.

I thought we were holding each other’s hand.

I’ll just have to love you and accept you as you are, old and decrepit.

I even love the soulless Trump.

I love pretenders.

And I love left 🦶

With all my heart, I love every muppet, not that it will do much good.

There is no meaning in life, there is only enjoying it now.

That means everything you have done you did for yourself.

That’s ok.

Me too and me isn’t even real.

You did it for yourself.

You cried out to the god with no name.

He sent you a smelly person to show you the truth.

But you can’t handle the truth.

But I’m still smelly Wink

I’m you fool and you will never get away.

I win.
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Post by smelly da goat Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:42 pm

And Eric Garza is not my real name.

I don’t really have or need a name except when dealing with muppets.

Eric Garza was a dumb kid on a road to nowhere.

Now I found my stink and there are no more roads.

Just breezy evenings on Cold Mountain 🏔

I know you are jealous and wonder 💭  how a smelly 🐐  bested you.

You should be honored.

It was easy, I just got naked.

Try it.

Dare you to live with no name and smelly.

Triple dog dare you.
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Post by smelly da goat Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:50 pm

Foot Mann wrote:As the current defender of the right Foote, I am installing a firewall to ensure against his exposure. Try to get past me chicken!

Left 🦶 is smokin some herb methinks.

Best thing for you really.

You need a massive Dude injection, not in the bum either.

We need to get that poison out.


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Post by smelly da goat Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:53 pm

Foot Mann wrote:I heard the Princess decree that Chickens are smart, but some are not. Only an idiot would call something he does not understand an idiot contraption. No wonder Joe refused the offer of a joint presentation.

Contraptions are for muppets who couldn’t make the rainbow connection on their own.

Keep at it ole Joe.

You ain’t ever gonna find anything with technology.

Sure you will hit gold one day if you dig deep enough.

But nothing gold can stay.

Of course, you have no idea what I mean.

I must be meaningless just passing my gas, I mean bliss, on OMF.

🐐💨

You all were just the opening act.

You can sit down now.

The talent has arrived.
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Post by jofo Mon Aug 09, 2021 11:14 pm

elvis is still in the building..
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Post by dan Tue Aug 10, 2021 12:38 pm

1840z……..

Joe Firmage might represent the possibility for a soft Disclosure.

But we have to ask what, if anything, is being Disclosed?  

His device is alleged to exhibit some anomalous or novel physical behavior.  

Joe claims to have a new theory of the physics of rotational motion to explain it, which he presented in a book, several years ago. The book is not readily available.


0100…….




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Post by jofo Tue Aug 10, 2021 1:22 pm

Incomprehensible, unintelligible, not demonstrable…soft is an understatement

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Post by Foot Mann Tue Aug 10, 2021 6:56 pm

With head deep in the dirt, he sees nothing of what is demonstrated. Without proper education, he understands nothing of what is demonstrated. To comprehend that which is demonstrated, he must see, and possess adequate education and intelligence. To the chickens, it is incomprehensible, unintelligible, and not demonstrable, for the chickens refuse to lift their head from the dirt, watch, and learn.

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Post by smelly da goat Tue Aug 10, 2021 7:28 pm

Dan if you go into your anger and pain, you can find joy.

We can meet on cold mountain and understand each other, until then, you are outside.

Instead of repressing desire, express them.

The Divine nostalgia.

This is not detachment.

This is the joy of life found in our creativity.

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