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Post by dan Sun Jun 20, 2021 8:39 am

The NYT is pushing back, gently, but unmistakably against the lab leak theory…….. damning it with very faint praise, and ignoring many of the points brought up by Katherine Eban.

But what can be done? Many bioengineering processes have a shotgun approach that can be third rate lab in a third world country.

Seeing the amount of sophisticated criminal effort going into computer viruses, can biological viruses be far behind? Imagine the ransoms that could be demanded.

Is not a biological virus the ultimate piece of ransom ware?



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Post by hobbit Sun Jun 20, 2021 8:45 am

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/mrna-technology-covid-vaccine-lipid-nanoparticles-accumulate-ovaries/

These people seem to have a good handle at was is afoot.

And as the mutants escape there will be calls for more and more injections.....follow the money.

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Post by hobbit Sun Jun 20, 2021 8:49 am

I wonder if our best possible virus was.........



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"Sent to a foreign land to kill the yellow man"


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Post by dan Sun Jun 20, 2021 11:35 am

hobbit,

I believe in Bruce, but I don’t believe in viruses 🦠.  

I don’t believe in seeds, either.  

I do believe in the Logos Spermatikos, however.  

The Logos Spermatikos is the gleam in the eye 👁 of the I Am…… the primordial Quantum Observer.  

What then was cause of the Spanish influenza and COVID?  

I don’t believe in causes.  

I believe in Pratītyasamutpāda……. codependent arising.  

Pandemics are an essential aspect of the best possible world.  

So are hobbits, evidently.

And so is paranoia…… and keep in mind that not all paranoids are paranoid.  

chick 🐣 is a pronoid.  

Atoms result from logic, and are what you end up with when you are into logic chopping, like Democritus.

I’m more of a Parmenidean.

Atoms do save many appearances.

Evaporation is certainly an appearance worth saving, and it is a quintessentially atomic phenomenon.



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Post by hobbit Sun Jun 20, 2021 12:42 pm

So You reckon that this all seeing big eye am that is part of all of mankind just sort of signals to creation to make these pandemics, and thus no individual or group of lunatics are responsible, and that if these individuals or groups of lunatics makes vast fortunes and rule over those left is what big eye wants?
but instead We all did it?

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Post by dan Sun Jun 20, 2021 1:27 pm

hobbit,

Golly, I don’t think I could have said that better myself.  

There are bad things and bad people, but one doesn’t necessarily cause the other…… they are pratītyasamutpāda, in other words.  

And, when all is said and done, there is only one person…… we are all just soulmates, strutting upon the stage…… reflecting each other.

Does this mean that someone of us is omniscient and omnipotent?



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Post by smelly da goat Sun Jun 20, 2021 1:31 pm

hobbit wrote:https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/mrna-technology-covid-vaccine-lipid-nanoparticles-accumulate-ovaries/

These people seem to have a good handle at was is afoot.

And as the mutants escape there will be calls for more and more injections.....follow the money.

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My opinion is you are confused about the 🦠  friend hobbit.

You are projecting.

Maybe speak of your childhood?

No one can control you.

Have no fear.

No matter that they make your body do, you are witness.

You are safe.

Dare I say, loved.

You are here.

There is nothing to fear my friend.

Mount up with the wings of an eagle.

Fly above it or through it.

Joy is here for any to drink deeply of, especially with all the muppets losing their minds.

Surely this is the best possible happening in the best possible world.

Happy Father’s Day to you Fathers.
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Post by dan Sun Jun 20, 2021 1:46 pm

1950z……..

Thank you, Chivo.  

I would only add that it does take a village to raise up a child.  

But every person is, by definition, omnipotent and omniscient beneath the surface…… which is kind of where we’re headed with Disclosure……. back to the Source……. to be one with the One ☝.  

Will this fact go to our heads……. make us insufferable?  

No more than it made Buddha or Jesus insufferable.

We could still sit down and have a beer 🍻 with ourself.  

Well, it may have made Chivo slightly insufferable, but I could still have a beer with him.  

All of this is just the definition of personalism, which is the only logical alternative to atomism.  

And, if we weren’t able to sweat like horses 🐎, summer would be rather insufferable.  

And where would we be without the hydrosphere?  

All of this so-called atomism just works off of our massive entanglement.  

And I really don’t know about muppets losing their minds.  It’s more like they are regaining their minds……. waking up.  

Donald Trump has played no small part in that process, although that was unlikely to have been his intention.  

Of course, the internet is a very big culprit in all of this.  

However, do keep in mind that the internet is just an epiphenomenon.

It’s just a placebo, if you will, to wake us up to our cosmic entanglement.  

The QAnon phenomenon is an essential piece of our awakening to that entanglement……. and, of course, foot claims to have entangled himself with QAnon.  


2110……..

Put together the ufo phenomenon and the internet phenomenon, and your setting up a collision of the first magnitude.  

Whether this collision will manifest itself…… will feedback into the phenomenon, remains to be seen.  

There is a strong sense in which the ETH has been supporting the story of unlimited material progress.  

The notion of unlimited progress is central to the scientific mythos.  

The potential collapse of the ET mythos is very liable to undermine the scientific mythos as well.  

Although science has been at pains to distance itself from ufology, it has not succeeded in doing so, in the popular mind.  

There may even be some scientists who imagine that Disclosure will support the ETH.  

The inter-dimensional hypothesis (IDH/UTH) is very far removed from mainstream science.  

This is just the territory of the MoAPS.  

I have pretty much committed myself to the scenario of a sudden collapse of the modern, big world, cosmological paradigm.  

In other words, the paradigm shift is necessarily a gestalt switch.  

The gestalt switch could be a very individual process…… it could take decades to work itself out.  

On the other hand, there is liable to be a critical mass of public opinion, which would tip the balance suddenly.  

Another imponderable is the effect of increasing exposure to recreational/psychedelic substances.

Psychedelic experiences might well play into portal type experiences….. encounter experiences. This possibility accounts for no small part of our heretofore draconian drug laws…… a regime that is itself collapsing.

There is much room for synergy between these various developments.



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Post by hobbit Sun Jun 20, 2021 3:26 pm

Don't eat candy floss.

My daughter just rang from France, they went out for fathers day to a local buffalo grill.
My grand daughter asked for candy floss ( some french name that translates as fathers beard) She was told She couldn't have such because of covid.

Did I/we prevent My grand daughter from having candy floss, She was in tears apparently.
if I meet this all seeing eye am I may stick My left foot up Its arse.

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Post by smelly da goat Sun Jun 20, 2021 4:17 pm

So here we are 3 apes talking amongst ourselves.

The internet makes this a very very very small world.

Dan wrote:Well, it may have made Chivo slightly insufferable, but I could still have a beer with him.  

I’d happily have a beer 🍻 with anyone here, even the dragon 🐉  left 🦶

I was just foolin.

If QAnon and Trump and his 🎺s have taught us anything, it is how stupid we are, how utterly in need of the light.

The poor muppets just don’t realize the joke is on them.

They are not warriors of light saving the day from pedophiles, they are being fooled by pedophiles.

Revelations isn’t literal.

It’s someone’s hallucination.

Have your own.

They are absolute morons in need of a 🧠  and a I love you

Of course you see how the Wizard of Oz was about our awakening or destruction.

If you go back on OMF I predicted exactly what trump would do and where this would lead.

I also called out the lie of QAnon from day one.

Cause I’m not an idiot.

If a third of us want to be raptured, sell your homes and possessions and end it.

Remove yourselves.

This place is so absurd I can’t even.

There’s no place like home
There’s no place like home
There’s no place like home

Let’s meet at the restaurant at the end of the universe.

I’m buyin.

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Post by hobbit Mon Jun 21, 2021 4:41 am

"Three apes talking amongst ourselves?



That bill gates gets everywhere, jumping out of Dante's inferno.

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Post by dan Mon Jun 21, 2021 8:28 am

1430z………

hobbit,

We are here to chart a path into the future, not to dwell upon the past.  

You refuse to talk about the future, except to wreak vengeance upon the bad guys.  

Your constant negativity is not constructive, and in no way is it helpful.  

Please, hobbit, try to keep this in mind.

If you feel compelled to rail against the darkness, please take it somewhere else.


Chivo,

A similar criticism may be brought to you.  

Your stance of being a know nothing is less than constructive.  

The only way to defeat the paradigm of scientific materialism is to come up with a better one.

You never met a paradigm that you didn’t want to deconstruct.  

The entire postmodern enterprise is geared to deconstruction.  

I encourage you to take you postmodern proclivities to one of its many existing outlets, rather than preaching it here.  

If you find something wrong with the BPWH, here you are beholden to suggest an alternative.  

If being constructive is simply not in your dna 🧬, this is not a proper venue.  


By the same token, if chick 🐣 wants to preach the Rapture, he should purchase a couple of snakes 🐍, and set up shop down in the hills of Kentucky.  

No, I preach the Rapture for the open minded.  

The Rapture, I claim, is an essential feature of the BPW.  

If anyone believes otherwise, I invite them to argue otherwise…… but not to merely issue blanket fatwas against the notion of the inter-dimensional hypothesis (IDH).


In a rehash of the Princess 👸’s clandestine philosophy group, foot opined that I should be looking for it’s front door, rather than for its back door.  

He did, however, express interest in discussing the small world, in the meantime.  I believe that is a first.  

Could it possibly be relating to the idea of the spoiling attack?  That was the context in which the offer was made.  

I would suggest that Chivo and hobbit are attempting a spoiling attack on the BPW.  That’s wonderful…… I need the practice.  

In his description of spoiling attacks, the strategy is to redirect the likely flow of the battle.  

Redirect the flow from where and to where?  

The default flow is in the direction of the ETH.  If the flow is to be redirected from there, the logical alternative is the IDH.  

The redirection will occur spontaneously, eventually.  Intervention is only going to speed that process.  


1620………..

If this were the case wouldn’t we be exercising free will?  

It sure seems that way.  

And it sure seems like we evolved out of the mud.

But, if we accept the muddy/Big Bang hypothesis, we don’t have free will, anyway.  

We also feel like we’re just playing a part.  

As persons, are we nexi of free will, or nexi of ontology?

chick leans toward the latter hypothesis.  

Where we exercise anything resembling free will is deep within the Noosphere….. in a primordial fashion…… under the aegis of Source.  

Muddy/Big Bang…….?  Why not just call it the Big Muddy?  
For what is inside of you is what is outside of you,
and the one who fashions you on the outside
is the one who shaped the inside of you.
And what you see outside of you, you see inside of you;
Truth is everywhere, like pebbles on a beach.  You merely have to pick them up and make them your own.  We become the pebbles on the beach……. the stars in the sky…… the one and the many.  

This is not the place to curse the darkness.  

This is the place to strike a match…… be the little match girl, if need be.  


1830……..

The musketeers, if hidden at all, are in plain sight.  

The spoiling attack is hardly an obfuscation of the matter.  

chick would be challenged to see how this non subterfuge could last out the year, but chick has been wrong before.  

Do folks really think that an intelligence cabal could thwart cosmic destiny?  

Isn’t it more likely that the mundane and extra-mundane would much rather align themselves?

I mean really…… are we going to fight city hall?  

Where is the percentage in that?

I think we will quickly come to understand that, from here on out, we are skating on very thin ice, ontologically speaking.

If we so much as look cross-eyed, we can just kiss 💋 our bippies good bye…… individually and/or collectively.  

We aim to please…… you aim, too, please!  

Of course, we’ve always been skating on thin ice…….

No.  We are Wile E Coyote running on thin air.  



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Post by smelly da goat Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:56 pm

You can take the hobbit out of the shire, but you can’t take the conspiracies out of the hobbit.
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Post by smelly da goat Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:58 pm

hobbit wrote:"Three apes talking amongst ourselves?



That bill gates gets everywhere, jumping out of Dante's inferno.

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Post by smelly da goat Mon Jun 21, 2021 1:00 pm

Well Dan, I am to disappoint.
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Post by dan Mon Jun 21, 2021 1:02 pm

1900z……..

Well, Chivo,

You are cordially invited to nurse your disappointment somewhere else on God’s green Earth.


2040………

For how many days will folks be satisfied with a rehash of lights in the sky?  

On the other hand, there are lot of people out there who would rather not open Pandora’s box 📦.  

Can’t we just leave bad enough, alone?  

If there were to be a vote, it’s more than likely that this latter group would prevail.  

They have prevailed for seventy years.  

But foot or one of his buddies has seen fit to let this cat out of the bag.  It’s not at all clear that it can be put back.  

However, I don’t expect foot to just roll over.  He is definitely not an easy one to pin down…… subpoena or no.  

But then there are folks like Kit G who have vowed to testify to any duly authorized body.  

It could easily come down to a presidential decision.  

Biden could easily say…… sorry, folks…… not on my watch.  

But could any President make that stick?  

Once the cat is let loose, the pressures will only mount.  

What other outcome could have been expected, by those who included this provision?  

Of course, the President could fall back on the separation clause……. no secular authorities is constituted to speak on sectarian matters.

But then which sect would the information be turned over to?

I’m sure that the Vatican would be quite happy to sit on this for another two thousand years.

I don’t see any other way than to spill the beans.

And what the heck are those beans going to look like?

Well, I may get to talk to 3 in a few days. We’ll see what we can work out.



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Post by smelly da goat Mon Jun 21, 2021 1:35 pm

Fair enough.

Pragmatic necessity in the moment always will trump idealism when it comes to the lives of finite beings.

Paul himself was fairly pragmatic in his theology.

Necessity trumps mysticism.

Paul was maybe a pragmatic vitalist.

Most of his actions were related to his current day Jewish and roman concerns.

His teachings lose their point beyond the time he lived.

Pragmatic religion offers no assurance of getting to truth.

Paul’s gospel continues because it is so humanly pragmatic, based on unselfish love.

“ The question of ultimate futures, for the world of human beings, is far more prominent in Jewish writings than non-Jewish. There are indeed the ‘golden age’ theories, whether driven by cosmic speculation or, as with Virgil or Horace, political expediency. From Homer to Plato there are theories about life after death; among the Stoics, visions of cosmic conflagration and rebirth. But these occupy a tiny proportion of the literature compared to eschatology in second-temple Jewish writings. The word elpis in ancient Greek is not particularly prominent, often merely implying wishful thinking, a cousin of tychē, ‘fate’. To express a good, secure hope (as in Socrates’s dying words) requires a further adjective, perhaps agathē or megalē. Hope may have been the last thing left in Pandora’s box, but it was a generalized optimism, not a specific, defined or well grounded expectation.

The prominence of Jewish eschatology may reflect political circumstances. The persecuted and oppressed long for radical change. But the hope then articulated drew upon the character of Israel’s God, specifically as creator and judge. The God who had made the world would put it right. The paradigm was the Exodus, as in Wisdom 10—19. Retellings of that foundational story sustained this double belief and gave it political and also philosophical targets: the Epicureans in Wisdom 1—5, the pagan rulers later on. The Jewish hope for ‘the age to come’ could be variously expressed, but it rested on Jewish-style creational monotheism, coupled with Israel’s election. Israel’s God, the creator, would act at last, in a new Exodus, a new victory, a new creation.”

Paul thought Jesus inaugurated this restorative period.

Seems the opposite occurred and led to a horrible breakdown of the 20th century.

Maybe time to kill bad ideas.

Dan is not a rabbi, what does he know about eschatology, mainly a Jewish tradition based on their history as an oppressed people.

So they made up a myth to protect themselves they were a chosen people, which brought a new kind of persecution.

I don’t think anyone knows nuthin about the future.

Dan can’t look critically at the foundation of his own chosen profession. Christian eschatology is made up and stolen.

Just another zealot muppet selling their own vision, stolen from Jewish history.

Not someone who has made peace with their own life it seems to me.

A clanging gong in a rapidly moving and changing world.

Perhaps totally out of sync with what is.

Travel light.

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Post by dan Mon Jun 21, 2021 4:04 pm

Very good, Chivo,

Why has it taken you so long to get to the point?

It is true that chick 🐣 cannot claim credit for inventing the Rapture.  

Nor can I claim credit for inventing the best possible world.  

However, I can claim some modicum of precedence for having firmly ensconced the Eschaton into the best possible world.  

Some semblance of an Eschaton is a logical accoutrement to almost any version of a small world.  

A small world is an essential feature of a personal world.  

A personal world is the only alternative to an atomic world.  

And right there, sports fans, you just about have the entire Disclosure package 📦, or my name is not chicken little 🐣.  

So we have waited seventy years for this piece of information?

Nay, we have waited two thousand years.

And this is something that almost any kindergartner could appreciate.

Why did this have to be treated as if it were above top secret 🤐?

Well, who said that God was not a drama queen 🎭?



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Post by Foot Mann Mon Jun 21, 2021 6:49 pm

The World now knows that the Chicken Crows. A proposal has been tendered for the Chicken to be Rendered. He will speak his Peace, the be devalued for his Clarisse. Let him ponder how she received the title of Aliyah.
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Post by smelly da goat Mon Jun 21, 2021 9:56 pm

Only fools and priests do squander life with hopes of death.

A riddle...

Where life is emptiness, gladness
Where life is darkness, fire
Where life is golden, sorrow
Where life is lost, wisdom

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Post by hobbit Tue Jun 22, 2021 12:58 am

In the best possible world what will replace humans?
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/mrna-technology-covid-vaccine-lipid-nanoparticles-accumulate-ovaries/

They need lots of aborted babies to perfect whatever they are creating.
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/us-senate-passes-bill-to-give-billions-of-dollars-in-funding-for-human-animal-hybrid-experiments

When humans have all gone off to the spirit in the sky WHAT takes over?

Will everyone have to go through those pearly GATES?



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Post by dan Tue Jun 22, 2021 5:17 am

Oh, dear,

I had to struggle to get through just one of the Jack/Dan/iel videos, from back in 2010.  I don’t recall the pretext for my being in North Beach, presumably it was at Jack’s invitation.  

Jack and I started out discussing whether post (sic) quantum computers could be conscious or not.  

And, now, here we are, onto Disclosure.  

I’ll tell you what disclosure will not be about.  It will not be about little green men.

It will not be about atoms or quantums, either.  

It will be about persons.

If the world is not composed of atoms, it must be composed of persons…… atoms come well after that fact…… entangled in the unreasonable effectiveness of mathematics.  

A personal world is necessarily a small world.  And that world is necessarily the best possible world.  

In other words, I do not support the ETH.  I support the IDH/UTH.  

The small world is composed of just 10^10 of us, the best possible number.  

This is the furthest we can venture from the Source.  

And, yes, reminiscent of the Wheeler/Feynman theory, we subscribe to the one soul theory…… we are all just reflections of each other and of the I Am.  

Our history is the best possible closed timelike (singular) circuit (CTC)….. the cosmic Ouroboros, embedded in Eternity…… of which we are all the coCreators, in  a holographic manner…… with 10^10 pixels……. a reasonably high definition.  

Our sojourn is complete.  We return to the Source, to be one with the One.  

Yes, time was just an illusion…… the best possible illusion…… every moment being a reflection of eternity.  

Now, all I have to do is convince the Princess, chairperson of the philosophy group, to allow us access to those inter-dimensional portals…… merely to wend our way home.  

Dan


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Hi Jack,

Dan Smith soon may be speaking to a very high level philosophical group. Each time I suggested he participate, the philosophers threatened with resignation. Now equipped with instant mute buttons, they may finally agree. I recall your approach was to pour Dan a tall glass of Jack prior to meeting, but with so many strokes, Dan no longer needs the Jack before speaking. Besides, it is a Small World, isn't it.


hobbit,

We don’t really go up in the sky……. we just go inside…… as we quantum tunnel from the Omega back to the Alpha.



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Post by hobbit Tue Jun 22, 2021 7:44 am

As I was informed by My eternal self.

Upon so called death the consciousness field leaves and the vehicle transmutes into the planets consciousness field.
Our eternal self rejoins itself in 5D.
5D is omni present , there is no travel involved at all, but there are multiple other dimensions omni present.

Thus it is akin to how the Egyptians had it in layers to navigate.

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Post by dan Wed Jun 23, 2021 7:18 am

A solution opens up on middle Ground. A field in Pennsylvania where Satan's Son will stand a Mound. A Painter will be present to record the Sound. When the Door opens will Satan's Son turn a Round.

…….. That said, there is a door opening up sometime next month -- a tasseography session will be held in a Pennsylvania field. Doug is supportive of your participation, provided you are in good physical and mental health. I am certain the Princess will approve under the right circumstances.
Tasseography?

A reading of the tea ☕ leaves 🍃 ?

Well, ok ✅, the BPWH is a form of tasseography where the whole world is our teacup ☕.  

It’s also about microcosmics.  

And are we talking about a potters’ mound?  

foot claims that when folks realize that the government and the media have been lying 🤥 to them for years, they will just go away in disgust.  

Or maybe they will turn to tasseography.  

Everyone can play this game.  

We could safely say that tasseography is the game of entanglement.  

Or, looking at it backwards, it is a reenactment of Genesis…… or how the Logos Spermatikos emerges from the primordial chaos…… à là the I Am.  

Yes, we will soon be having our spiritual emergency 🚨, with a global reenactment.  

This also operates as a magic circle where entanglement is used to open a portal.  

Imagine the magic circle of 10^10.  

This is what we will be waking up to.  

There have been two key words, over the years……. phenomenology and entanglement.  

Now, just put the two together.

The rest is history.  

And agape falls in there, somewhere……. It’s as simple as #123……
Don't know much about history
Don't know much biology
Don't know much about a science book
Don't know much about the French I took



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