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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by hobbit Mon Apr 02, 2018 9:41 am

    Dan,

    I had no previous knowledge of, or intent to achieve that which occurred.

    I climbed on top of a portal chamber (hence My interest in anything portal related) to photograph a crop circle adjacent....
    When this reality went and I tripped across into the most fabulous none physical dimension of indescribeable Mandelbrot scene with sounds not of this world.
    My physical suddenly began to be upset as I didn't exist, or the earth below.
    I was still wondering and asking who are You to my physical entity when a third Me began talking and telling me to be calm and repeat what ever it told Me, which was it was Me from 5D.

    I had lots explained, but can only recall that which I repeated .
    All of this time My physical entity was really quite funny telling the other two to shut up and it wanted to be back in 3D.

    My higher self ( in 5d) is that called father.
    My 3D self ( physical) is Earth to be.
    My 4D self is ( consciousness) spirit, as such.

    I didn't want to return , the love is immense.

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    Post by dan Mon Apr 02, 2018 11:34 am

    Thank you, hobbit,

    The ideas seem quite similar. Eventually we’ll get this thing figured out.
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    Post by @awestruckt Mon Apr 02, 2018 12:02 pm

    Footman mentioned gyros. Short video published by (presumed) chevreman that shows footage of prototype gyros, perhaps giving us a glimpse into the goings on down by the lake . So...they finally got this thing to work and, in addition to levitating, a portal also popped open or something?

    Well showing that on TV and maybe even sending a drone (or Kurt Russell) through would certainly constitute a MoAPS. Can't wait to fill in the blanks as disclosure progresses...

    Gyro stuff starts at 1:45

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wi1f8X643ts
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    Post by hobbit Mon Apr 02, 2018 1:32 pm

    Nunia.binus wrote:Footman mentioned gyros.  Short video published by (presumed) chevreman that shows footage of prototype gyros, perhaps giving us a glimpse into the goings on down by the lake .  So...they finally got this thing to work and, in addition to levitating, a portal also popped open or something?  

    Well showing that on TV and maybe even sending a drone (or Kurt Russell) through would certainly constitute a MoAPS.  Can't wait to fill in the blanks as disclosure progresses...

    Gyro stuff starts at 1:45

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wi1f8X643ts

    It isn't the physical machine spinning that causes the reaction.
    it is what the spinning machine causes to spin.

    Consciousness.

    There is no gravity.

    There is a net inrush into creation, that inrush is spinning, locally reverse that spin field, and then........

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    Post by DrZaius Mon Apr 02, 2018 1:53 pm

    hobbit wrote:It isn't the physical machine spinning that causes the reaction.
    it is what the spinning machine causes to spin.

    Consciousness.

    There is no gravity.

    There is a net inrush into creation, that inrush is spinning, locally reverse that spin field, and then........

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    Please elaborate!
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    Post by hobbit Mon Apr 02, 2018 2:21 pm

    DrZaius wrote:
    hobbit wrote:It isn't the physical machine spinning that causes the reaction.
    it is what the spinning machine causes to spin.

    Consciousness.

    There is no gravity.

    There is a net inrush into creation, that inrush is spinning, locally reverse that spin field, and then........

    hobbit

    Please elaborate!

    I have been trying to .
    Because this knowledge is not yet in the overall consciousness field memory of this planet it is difficult to elaborate.

    Creation operates universally via a dual spin method, it creates a local field that has polarity and equator (look at the gyroscope)
    We and all upon this planet are by products of the unique spin field of here, and that dual spin field flows in/out of the heart centre of this planet, and everything is then vectored towards that heart centre and it wrongly is thought of as a force called gravity.

    There is no gravity, there is a unique consequence of consciousness spinning into the heart centre versus the opposite spin flowing back out, the net difference is the local rate of so called gravity.

    Gravity is time.
    Time is gravity.

    Then try to drop this false force thinking of gravity, and substitute it with the knowledge of spin field .

    Then think of what is going to occur if and when you encounter a local field where either of those spin fields vary from the overall planets.

    Then so called gravity will alter.
    Then so called time will alter.

    Time is a net consequence of the rate of implosion of consciousness over the net outrush of consciousness.

    This planets is at the rate of 55 over 34.

    Fibonacci is king.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Apr 02, 2018 8:17 pm

    Word hobbit.

    Good to see you making some progress.

    No idea what you mean, sounds interesting though Wink

    No idea what Dan is talking about mostly now either.

    Perfect.

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    Post by Cybereye Mon Apr 02, 2018 9:08 pm

    Now, will i be yelled at for just randomly "chiming in"? lol    I have some info that is VERY relevant at the moment. And it has to do with some FOIA's i filed for the AATIP, but ones filed under what i am becoming pretty sure is the true name of the Program. It's a Name that came directly from Luis's Mouth, but only in 1 Interview, overseas, about a Month after the Dec 16th announcement. But i filed my first FOIA under that Name in Jan, i still have ONLY received the "longer than 20 Days" Letter. I have NOT received a "no record's found" response like Greenwald at the "Black Vault" has. A couple of the major Researcher's in the Field already know, and it's about to be a "story".

    And i hope it was not me bringing up a certain someone "stripping clearances" on Gary Nolan's FB Page is the reason he is deleting his account now.
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    Post by dan Tue Apr 03, 2018 7:22 am

    Allegedly, I wasn’t being nice enough when I last spoke to c man.  C man is rightly proud of his theory, where everything is reduced to spirals within spirals, and that is approximately correct.  

    But, if you don’t know the sequence of the spirals, you’re liable to be very confused, and then you just keep digging your own rabbit hole, wider and deeper.  It’s hard to find the light again.  You would hardly know which way is up.  

    It would be enough to drive some of us to drink.  

    It’s all about size.  Everyone thinks that size matters.  It does, but not in the way you’re thinking.  It’s just the opposite...... small is beautiful.  Just take a look at the Princess.  

    Speaking of aatip, I asked after Tom.  Foot keeps suggesting that I talk to these folks, but first I need their phone numbers.  And sometimes I do get impatient with the nuts....... and bolts.  I would not make a very good spy...... I’ve been told.  

    I was told that Steve Bassett was on the radio recently with the WCM, without knowing who it was.  I was surprised to learn that the show was even being broadcast out of his abode.  F-man says that I can be pretty darned oblivious...... no kidding.  

    But maybe I’m not the only one.  

    If you’re trying to foia all this nonsense..... well, lots of luck.  Fibs move with the speed of light.  The truth is more like a turtle..... or a monarch butterfly...... it may take generations to get home again.  


    Should I worry about the stakeholders, down by the lake.....?

    The sec has signed off on whatever paper is involved.  The cman is on to something..... more power.  

    As far as disclosure is concerned..... well, it’s obviously above my pay grade.  

    Cman is just baiting this, oh so tender, trap.  The poor tired WoM/MoAPS needed some goosing.... so we go along..... maybe we’ll get along, too.  

    The spriral does tighten, but, if you don’t know which way is up, it’s pretty darned confusing.  Paper trail..... bread crumbs might work better.  


    Nunia had asked a question about something, and I keep getting distracted...... you know how it is.......

    What does the spiral have to do with the mM and the trinity?  

    Well, the silk thread of the cocoon is Indra’s necklace.  We are the pearls, all on the same silver cord/chord.  Then there is the master singular circuit, our best possible, small world CTC...... spirals within spirals..... and helixes, of course.  

    But, what no one else wants to get is that it is by us, for us and about us.  That’s just too quaint..... too parochial.  I’m sorry, fellow hatchlings.  Who can we complain to?  As Ron says, we just have to complain to ourselves.  

    Who’s in charge......?

    We’re in charge. That’s the ultimate conspiracy theory. And don’t look at me, I’m just the Princess’s scribe.

    Disclosure has been hidden in plain sight, all along. Well, it was hidden in our back pocket.... the last place anyone would look.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Apr 03, 2018 9:41 am

    You don’t need to worry about anything.
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    Post by hobbit Tue Apr 03, 2018 9:43 am

    Spirals,
    http://www.spirasolaris.ca/sbb4d.html
    Spin, chirality.

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    Post by @awestruckt Tue Apr 03, 2018 9:44 am

    Can any internet sleuths find a link to the interview w/ WCM and Steve Bassett?
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    Post by dan Tue Apr 03, 2018 10:30 am

    I wonder if hobbit knows how to derive the Dirac equation for the electron. If you want to know about spin, that would be one place to start. Yes, you prove that an electron must have spin of 1/2, which means that you have to turn an electron by 720* to get back to where you started. This is why ordinary matter obeys the fermi-Dirac statistics, which is why matter doesn’t collapse, except under gravity.

    Of course, all of that is just an old wives tale. You believe that, and I’ll tell you about the Big Bang.

    But, yes, Indra’s necklace of the cosmic Soul spirals around the CTC, at least 10^10 times. That would make a real good spark coil of the O >> A spark gap..... that’s where the Telos gets is energy...... it plugs into us. No?


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    Post by hobbit Tue Apr 03, 2018 11:05 am

    dan wrote:I wonder if hobbit knows how to derive the Dirac equation for the electron.  If you want to know about spin, that would be one place to start.  Yes, you prove that an electron must have spin of 1/2, which means that you have to turn an electron by 720* to get back to where you started.  This is why ordinary matter obeys the fermi-Dirac statistics, which is why matter doesn’t collapse, except under gravity.  

    Of course, all of that is just an old wives tale.  You believe that, and I’ll tell you about the Big Bang.  

    But, yes, Indra’s necklace of the cosmic Soul spirals around the CTC, at least 10^10 times.  That would make a real good spark coil of the O >> A spark gap..... that’s where the Telos gets is energy...... it plugs into us.  No?  


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    http://firstlegend.info/3rivers/thetreeoflifeomphalos.html

    If You spiral into the centre and reverse back out in an opposite spiral You will follow 720 degrees.

    There was no such garbage as a big bang.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Apr 03, 2018 11:27 am

    Interesting.

    Yah, Hell is a crock.

    Love wins.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Apr 03, 2018 12:06 pm

    Interesting.

    Grant is preaching Dan and Ron’s gospel.

    I like his consciousness shift, materialism, scientific method points, because they align better with my experience, not my beliefs, which are fluid.

    What the hell did I get mixed up in here Wink

    In the end I’m sure I’ll see it and it happened as it should, as it does now.



    Ok, you guys are watching the experiencers. The lunacy is monkeys trying to weaponize consciousness.

    Where has your entire life experience unfolded?

    Within your conscious awareness of it.

    What comes first then, matter or consciousness?

    That answer is changing the world.
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    Post by hobbit Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:35 pm

    Smelly,

    Consciousness is the creator.
    Matter is consciousness compressed into the unique geometries of whatever matter it is.
    A tree does not GROW, it is created as the seed information begins to transmute into being what it is encoded to become by compressing vast amounts of consciousness .
    The tree transmutes into the ground, and into atmosphere, its created roots and branches been antennae.
    A unique memory field of consciousness is all around all of this with polarity and equator, and the ever so brilliant tree knows how to locally reverse what is wrongly thought of as a force called gravity by rotating the above and below equator in reverse and thus water falls to the top of the tree.
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    our current thinking dictates that all of that is due to the physical make up of the tree......that is total ignorance of consciousness methodology.

    Odd balls like myself interact with consciousness, and it appreciates the interaction, but trees are far more attuned than myself.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:09 pm

    Odd brother, I do know a little of what you speak Wink

    Good stuff.
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    Post by dan Tue Apr 03, 2018 3:47 pm

    Thanks for the updates and links.........

    For months, Ron has been saying that stuff was accelerating.  I think we’re just beginning to see it.  It was the nyt article that seemed to signal the beginning of the latest round.  

    Yes, Grant is definitely has a front row seat.  

    Many earlier actors are getting back into the act.  

    Cman is a good example.  He has been reactivated.  Just in the last few months, he has been turned into the it guy.  He is mostly now just along for the ride...... kinda like Tom was a few months earlier.  

    Let me put out a couple of links myself.........

    1.)  Madeleine Albright’s new book on fascism.  

    2.)  Friedman’s op ed on Putin.  

    The conclusion is the Donald and Vladimir are running their respective countries to the dogs.  Similar trends may be observed globally as everyone gets anxious about the future.  We turn inwards, which, politically is a return to tribalism, or, as Owen would say, to our original participation.  There is a reversion to our origins.  

    The trick is to turn this trend around....... into our final participation.....

    How difficult will it be to turn on the dime.......?

    Plot spoiler........ it’ll be a lot easier than it looks...... basically we’ll just have to roll off the other side of the log.

    The Trumputin act will be an easy one to follow.



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    The tribalism is so thick I don’t know what world I live in anymore. It has been exposed as utterly absurd in the grand scheme.

    Aren’t Grant and all of them not in the To the Stars initiative just following at this point?

    And when they release this 80 atom layer metal, it will be game over?

    I feel the metal was made spontaneously by consciousness, why it seems impossible.

    Why would the holographic metal remain in appearance without the original operator?

    The stuff must react to any observer, only One, right.

    Just some weird thoughts today.
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    Post by dan Tue Apr 03, 2018 4:27 pm

    Yes, the basic idea is that a modicum of magic will turn this Mother right around...... easy, peasy.  

    But, yes, the WoM/MoAPS is being overtaken by events on the ground.  Someone has thrown caution to the wind.  It’s damn the torpedoes.......

    And we’re just along for the ride. If there are better seats in the house for enjoying the show, I’ll have to eat my hat.

    We seem to have a glut of options for moving forward. Why not deploy as many as possible, as soon as possible.

    If we’re turning up the volume, we might as well put the pedal to the metal...... it’s now of never...... all systems are go...... well, they’d better be.


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    Grant is my hero. I'm going to Arkansas in a couple of weeks to watch him present at the Ozark UFO Conference. Want me to get his autograph for any of you?
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    At this point though the momentum is with TTSA?

    Grant and all other UFO researchers seem superfluous now. Grant said as much.

    They can look at this the nimitz videos for 70 years and have no clue from the outside looking in.

    The guy works hard, I’ll give him that.

    If you haven’t touched your Awareness, I would if I were any of you, post haste.

    No one will EVER just logicicaly reason this out. It takes magickal thinking to make the rainbow connection.

    I wish my fellow appearances well in cracking this egg, because cracking your cosmic egg is the only way you will ever experience Awareness as the thinker of your thoughts and feeler of your feelings, which is beyond my capacity to elaborate on.

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    Post by dan Tue Apr 03, 2018 5:43 pm

    Sorry, smelly, you just cannot refrain from contradicting me...... in public no less.  But that’s ok..... it adds to the drama.  

    You don’t know the Aviary politics.   Hal has been on the wrong side of Ron, forever.  There are stated reasons for this feud.  I’m skeptical.  It’s all for show.  

    But I won’t hesitate to predict that Joe is about to steal the show from Tom.

    Yes, I’ve been wrong before.

    If Joe pulls this off, smelly, will you concede that this is ground zero?

    Yes, Grant, who has his finger on the pulse, is about to be blindsided, something awful.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Apr 03, 2018 6:09 pm

    Little rusty with my ufo politics, I was asking a question.

    Not trying to challenge...much Wink

    Apologies, I of course defer to you on such topics Dan, I’m the magickal thinker.

    These are my intuitive impressions, leave whatever doesn’t resonate.

    I’m here, so this must be ground zero Wink

    But where is here now?

    If it’s not I only came to talk to Dan on OMF, mission more than accomplished I’d say.

    Maybe I overstayed my welcome, but I had no where else to go really.

    Dan is my main nuttball, I don’t really listen much to others unless the flow floats them by.

    I learned it’s better to be with your own nutball kind, than stay out in the cold alone.

    I was never alone, but it sure felt like I was out in the cold alone, in an ice cage, before I woke.

    I know each has to face that coldness on their own, or live in fantasyland disconnected from awareness in a world of Daimons with only logic and reason. To be able to free yourself at any point and letting yourself stay bound in a materialistic dead world is the greatest Hell I can imagine this side of things.

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