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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by Cuan Scott Wed Sep 01, 2021 3:17 pm

    Thanks dude Smile

    Likewise

    I hope to be more participating soon once I catch up

    In the interim just wanted to say thanks for some of those Goat wisdom offerings of yours..

    They have been a great aid whilst I have been chopping wood and carrying water....

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    When I've explained this forum and what little I can make of the storyline attached to it to trustworthy, mindful, neutral people who are sick to death of me talking about strange things, it tends to generate the same response. Questions like:

    "How did you find this?"

    "What do you think they're really trying to do here?"

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    Post by dan Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:30 pm

    I apologize for what I’m about to say, but really…….

    I was told long ago that, yes, we have a phenomenology problem.  

    So what is the only thing you can do with a problem you can’t solve?  

    Well, it seems to chick 🐣 that, after finding the problem, you would marry it.  

    Problem solved.  

    Tell us that chicky is wrong 😑.

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    Post by Cheguevoblin Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:12 pm

    Hahaha!

    A goat and a chicken walked into a bar,

    one with a heart shaped ring round his finger,

    the other with a finger shaped ring round his heart.

    It was a match made in heaven and the bartender pored ‘em some more.

    A beer for the goat. 🍺

    Wine for the chick.🍷

    Damn my brothers.....this place is lit! 🔥

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    Post by Cheguevoblin Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:20 pm

    One describes a painting just to hear the sound the colors make.

    Understanding is for the numbers.

    The numbers are the paint.

    The system is a lie.

    The moon bakes by the wayside — fruit tarts for the rain.

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    Post by dan Thu Sep 02, 2021 3:14 am

    Or…….

    We have met the Aliyahn, and now we are one with the One.  

    There may still be a few zombies out there, but they just won’t quite be the same anymore.  

    Home sweet home 🏡……. in the Hive.  

    Monadnock 🏔…… or bust.

    Sure, the Truth is still out there, but now we know that it’s in here, too.

    Will everyone ever believe it?  

    Well, ‘almost’ may be good enough…… in horseshoes.  

    Or…… chick 🐣 thinks of the difference between the mathematician and the physicist……… the mathematician can only ever get half-way there, but the physicist can get close enough for all practical purposes.  

    Is the message in the medium, or is the medium in the message?  

    Yesterday’s lesson with 3.5 was about Voltaire vs Leibniz, as addressed in Candide……..

    The General is surveying the battlefield.  Bodies are strewn everywhere.  He finally comes upon one poor soldier, still alive, propped up against a cannon wheel, but with a spear through his chest.

    My poor young man, does it hurt?  

    No, sir, only when I laugh 😂!  

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    Post by dan Fri Sep 03, 2021 6:15 am

    1210z……..

    Yes, thank you, Chivo, for reminding us that Leibniz really was a twerp.  

    Leibniz had no clue…… but bless his soul, anyway.

    He got all bent out of shape with his Monadology.  

    However, that does not make him wrong 😑 about this being the best of all possible worlds.

    Where Willy screwed up was with the Logos, and we can all learn from his philosophical train 🚂 wreck.  

    Willy’s basic problem was that he was not actually a personalist, although many came to view him through that lens.  

    I believe that you are about to discover that, in the history of philosophy, the chick 🐣 was the first ever personalist.  

    The culmination of personalism was the jguy, where you could sit down and have a beer 🍻 with the cosmic Self…….. I kid you not.  

    But, not until the sotted guy came along, could we actually grok that.  

    This is what the Trinity is all about.  

    But not until Trinity could we truly appreciate the Trinity……… I am become death 💀, the destroyer of worlds.  

    Personalism is going to be the end of the Taliban and the Texas Republicans.  

    The Taliban and the so-called Right-to-Lifers have finally managed to screw the pooch.  

    Mark my words.  

    There is only one life.  

    Get over it….. get used to it.  

    There is only one Monad/Entelechy.  

    There is only one Logos Spermatikos.  

    Poor Willy……. he had no clue about the Logos Spermatikos.  

    The Logos Spermatikos……….

    I think 🤔 you’ll find that the chick 🐣 is all over it.  

    Love is as easy as 1,2&3.  

    But, true, 1,2&3 can get a bit complicated.  

    Yes, before you go and manage to screw the pooch, you might want to understand what an Entelechy is.  

    ….. Aristotle believes the entelechy of humans is we naturally want to be knowledgeable and social…… hmmm 🧐…… that kinda sums it up.  

    Actuality (energeia in Greek) is that mode of being in which a thing can bring other things about or be brought about by them, the realm of events and facts.

    By contrast, potentiality (dynamis in Greek) is not a mode in which a thing exists, but rather the power to effect change, the capacity of a think to make transitions into different states.
    chick 🐣 didn’t know that actuality and energy were almost the same thing with the Greeks.  
    The concept of potentiality, in this context, generally refers to any "possibility" that a thing can be said to have. Aristotle did not consider all possibilities the same, and emphasized the importance of those that become real of their own accord when conditions are right and nothing stops them.[3] Actuality, in contrast to potentiality, is the motion, change or activity that represents an exercise or fulfillment of a possibility, when a possibility becomes real in the fullest sense.
    Say what???
    These concepts, in modified forms, remained very important into the Middle Ages, influencing the development of medieval theology in several ways. In modern times the dichotomy has gradually lost importance, as understandings of nature and deity have changed. However the terminology has also been adapted to new uses, as is most obvious in words like energy and dynamic. These were words first used in modern physics by the German scientist and philosopher, Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz. Another more recent example is the highly controversial biological concept of an "entelechy".



    1500…….

    The Logos Spermatikos is the most potent thing in the world……. just ask the I Am.  

    ……. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God…… Hmmm 🤔……

    The two words energeia and entelecheia were coined by Aristotle, and he stated that their meanings were intended to converge.[10] In practice, most commentators and translators consider the two words to be interchangeable.[11][12] They both refer to something being in its own type of action or at work, as all things are when they are real in the fullest sense, and not just potentially real. For example, "to be a rock is to strain to be at the center of the universe, and thus to be in motion unless constrained otherwise"


    In that sense, we are all rocks 🪨…….. we all strain to be one with the One…… particularly if we happen to be wearing a ‘dynamic’ vest…… Allahu Akbar……..!!

    Aristotle invents the word by combining entelēs (ἐντελής, 'complete, full-grown') with echein (= hexis, to be a certain way by the continuing effort of holding on in that condition), while at the same time punning on endelecheia (ἐνδελέχεια, 'persistence') by inserting telos (τέλος, 'completion'). This is a three-ring circus of a word, at the heart of everything in Aristotle's thinking, including the definition of motion.
    chick 🐣 loves circuses 🎪.



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    Post by dan Fri Sep 03, 2021 3:26 pm

    Yes, there may still be Tribulation ahead, but I believe it is mostly behind us.  

    We’ve had 2000 years of Tribulation…… much more than anyone could have imagined.  

    With the jguy, the prophetic tradition of a Middle Eastern tribe went global.  

    He’s had a bigger impact on the world than anyone else.  

    I don’t see how we could have gotten to the modern world without that.  

    Modern humanism is a direct result.

    Well, secular humanism is hard to imagine without the prophetic personalism.

    If you did not feel you had some direct connection with the cosmic Self, you would be a lot less confident in your own self.  

    Having that cosmic connection made us a lot more willing to exercise our curiosity.  

    Can we imagine science without the prior assumption of a benign Cosmos?  

    Folks who see all this as an accident……. they have precious little basis for any hope.  

    The modern world has been running on more than just animal faith.  

    But, yes, our gas tank is running low.  

    We may just be running on fumes.  

    Our credit system……. our whole financial system requires some faith in the future, which, right now, is sorely lacking.  



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    Post by dan Sat Sep 04, 2021 7:48 am

    Poor Chivo,

    He can’t quite grasp that the jguy was the iconoclast to end all iconoclasts.  

    Well, not quite……..

    Historically, it would require a chicken little 🐣 to finish the smashing……. to smith.ereens.

    There cannot be any idols or even representations, because there is only one thing, and it’s not a thing……. it’s a self.

    Each one of us is an idol unto the cosmic Self.  

    If we want to understand idols, we have to understand the sacred and profane……. the raw and the cooked.

    We have to understand Creator and Creation.  

    There is a dualism that we will smash.  

    There is a veil that we are ripping.  

    You just wait and see.  

    But chick 🐣 has miles to go before he sleeps……..
    …….


    When folks realize that we can sit down and have a beer 🍻 with the cosmic self, the last idol will have been smashed.



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    Post by GSB Tue Sep 07, 2021 2:02 am

    BPW?

    “Bitcoin at $1,000,000 is a Global Government”

    Balaji Srinivasan is an angel investor and entrepreneur, the former CTO of Coinbase, a former General Partner at Andressen Horowitz and more.

    In this wide-ranging conversation with NLW, he discusses:  

    How networks are taking a power role once reserved for god and the state

    Why pre-internet institutions will not survive the internet

    Why bitcoin at $1 million is a global government

    Woke capital vs. communist capital vs. crypto capital



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    Post by dan Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:43 am

    1740z……….

    Poor Gary and poor Balagi,

    They have both swallowed transhumanism, hook, line and sinker.  

    Transhumanism is the opposite of personalism.

    Transhumanism is teleology without a Telos.

    It is a cosmic oxymoron.  
    ………


    In the meantime, three speaks the E word.

    Well, not quite…….

    She speaks the P word……

    What happens when the last portal is in place?  

    It goes Pow 💥.  

    What does she mean by ‘it’?  

    Like everything, or what?  

    I asked for some clarification, but all I got was a smile 😊.  

    What is the last portal?  

    It has to do with geographic coverage.  

    Thinking of it as a mesh net.

    Think of the twelve Megalopolises finally being connected back with the twelve original Megaliths.

    Now get rid of the concrete and the stones, and you get the idea.  

    It’s like acupuncture for Gaia.  

    Or, maybe, a global kundalini.  

    This is how we rip the Veil.  

    Is this the end of history?  

    Something like that.  

    She was given her last assignment…… in person.  


    1940……..

    Perhaps this is overdoing the personal aspect.

    Well, be careful what you wish for.



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    Post by dan Tue Sep 07, 2021 2:30 pm

    Compassion for life?  

    Talk about abstraction.  

    You pretty well nailed it.
    …….


    About that other stuff…….

    Of course, it could all be bs, but I just can’t imagine any better bs.  

    And, it’s a great excuse to fly a plane with a Princess…… in God knows where.



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    Post by dan Tue Sep 07, 2021 3:43 pm

    You seem to be the only one here talking about doom and gloom.

    You suppose that we are on an endless, impossible mission.  

    You are about to learn something……. surprising.

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    Post by dan Tue Sep 07, 2021 6:08 pm

    You can be here as a Troubadour.

    That’s not quite my thing.

    You insist that everyone must follow your exact path.

    That’s not gonna happen.

    There is already one true marker on the way back to the One.

    That marker is not you, Chivo.

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