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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Jul 22, 2021 6:24 pm

    Fortuna favors the bold/brave.

    Be brave muppets!

    These mind viruses are insidious.

    Memes are one material form of them.

    They operate below conscious awareness and mix into your emotions and thinking centers.

    They are a bitch to remove.

    I know, you would say I’m crazy.

    I’m fucking not.

    They are behind most conspiracies.

    These things are real.

    It takes the character of a divine being to resist them.

    So be divine.

    An interesting strategy is to just give into them and give em all you got.

    Several ways to smoke em out.

    Improve your quality and they will have no foothold.

    Aren’t you tired of being less than you can be?

    I sure was.

    But no one held me back but me.

    If you want to be someone, you have to get out of bed.

    You have to fail harder.

    Failing harder is turning into the storm.

    Yes, you failed and you will fail and fail and fail and then you won’t.

    You won’t fail.

    But you could any step.

    But that’s good for you.

    Another thing that doesn’t work.

    You got to push it.

    Push that damn rock 🪨 up the hill.

    And smile like you mean it.

    That’s how you win life.

    You make it happen.

    But it’s ok if it all blows up.

    Right?

    Operation Paperclip 📎 shows you how life really is.

    The power of the Joint Chiefs and who is behind those chiefs?

    You won’t ever know.

    Who whispers in whose ear?

    Come on.

    Can’t you see through this yet?

    Sure you can.
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    Post by hobbit Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:12 am

    Chim wrote:Up on Cold Mountain near the edge of the tree line, the Christ child enjoys the company of an ancient Chimera.

    Call it his spirit animal or what will you.

    The old sages sent it there to play with and protect the Child.

    Lots of steep cliffs and storms.

    A fall from those cliffs would be disastrous for the little tyke.






    "Little tyke"

    A Yorkshire saying?

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    Post by dan Fri Jul 23, 2021 6:48 am

    As we head deeper into the best possible Tribulation, an appropriate meme is…….

    Que sera, sera.  

    Did the jguy whistle this on the cross?

    Or Captain Tibbets, as flew out of the rising Sun into the falling sun?

    The impending meeting with John W will be for reminiscence.  I will not be there.  It will be between Rob T and John.  I’m not totally convinced that the other fellow won’t be there, also.  In fact, I hope that he will be there.  

    It could be much more substantive…… just not my kind of substance.  Where others might wish to lean back, chick 🐣 would be leaning forward.  

    In any event, it will, hopefully, be a preliminary meeting.  

    And I might hope to attend a follow up.  That’s about it.  



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    Post by Cheguevoblin Fri Jul 23, 2021 8:46 am

    Interesting to note the difference between original and final participation.

    It’s the difference between the BPWH and living your best possible life as this.

    Tat Tat Tat

    Two sides of the same coin.

    What’s an air Libra ♎ to do but blow away in the wind?

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    Post by dan Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:44 am

    Chim,

    Original participation is basically tribal, with plenty of ‘bicameral’ action.  

    Beta/ego consciousness is the bicameral breakdown.  

    Final participation is informed ‘tribal’, with plenty of global/interpersonal action……. telephony giving way to telepathy.  

    And, most importantly, the opening of the portals accelerates.


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:04 pm

    “To iterate is human. To recurse is divine.”

    — L Peter Deutsch, computer scientist and mainframe programmer
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:08 pm

    dan wrote:As we head deeper into the best possible Tribulation, an appropriate meme is…….

    Que sera, sera.  

    Did the jguy whistle this on the cross?

    Or Captain Tibbets, as flew out of the rising Sun into the falling sun?

    The impending meeting with John W will be for reminiscence.  I will not be there.  It will be between Rob T and John.  I’m not totally convinced that the other fellow won’t be there, also.  In fact, I hope that he will be there.  

    It could be much more substantive…… just not my kind of substance.  Where others might wish to lean back, chick 🐣 would be leaning forward.  

    In any event, it will, hopefully, be a preliminary meeting.  

    And I might hope to attend a follow up.  That’s about it.  



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    If Christ possessed Jesus, those final words on the cross must be Jesus.

    My god my god why have you forsaken me.

    Perhaps Christ took a powder at the end and poor Jesus was left on the cross.

    What a dodo.

    Don’t die for a spirit.

    Live for what you love.

    God and I are gonna sit down and have a long chat about this being human.
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    Post by dan Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:32 pm

    2030z……..

    Poor Chivo,  

    He is a compulsive dualist.  

    He will never be able to understand monism.  

    All that Buddhism that he went on about, interminably……. it left no impression.  


    0430……..

    Allegedly, the Princess is considering becoming active in the Virginia Libertarian party.

    Trumpians are in the process of partnering with the Libertarians.

    Law and order is not a strong point with the Libertarians.

    Murder is not necessarily illegal. Neither is abortion, of course.

    Military and police forces are both called for, however.  

    They encourage gun ownership.  

    I questioned foot as to the status of persons.

    They have no position on ideological questions.

    There is no racial bias.  

    It sounded to me as if this were a return to the law of the jungle, with Darwinian survival being the law of the land.

    They had just hosted the national chairman at their house.  

    I asked if the party had any position on portals.

    I gather that this was considered an ideological issue.  

    All of this sounds rather unchristian…… perhaps even anti-Christian or anti-Muslim.  

    Would Sharia law be illegal, for instance, if it were just enforced amongst Muslims?

    Could Muslims have their own police force.  

    What if Utah chose to secede from the US……. or the South?  

    Polygamy would be allowed, of course.  

    Militias and gangs would be encouraged?  

    What about the Mafia?

    What about election laws, and who would enforce them?  

    States rights…… municipal rights?  

    Corporate law?  

    Could corporations have their own police?

    How would contracts be enforced?


    0540……..

    What about eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth?  

    Folks would be buddying up rather quickly.

    Last week there was an armed intruder at the CIA.

    No one would volunteer to shoot him.

    They had to call the FBI.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Jul 24, 2021 2:00 am

    The monad can bite my left ***

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    Post by dan Sat Jul 24, 2021 9:13 am

    In the previous post, I was describing the right wing version of libertarianism.  

    There is also a left wing version, which is skeptical of private property.  

    After all, a strong central government is required to enforce the many different kinds of property rights and contractual obligations.  

    Left oriented libertarianism often takes the form of communalism.

    Then arises the problem of maintaining and adjudicating order amongst communes that may have very different philosophies.  

    The world itself may be seen as libertarian towards the various countries, with very little by way of central authority, and with scant power to enforce treaties.  

    World order is maintained by a vast array of ad-hoc arrangements.  

    Many view the rise of China as the greatest threat to the existing world order…… China being one of the least libertarian of countries.  

    Support from China is the main reason for the continued existence of the most authoritarian of countries, North Korea.  

    How do the libertarians view the continued existence of North Korea?  



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Jul 24, 2021 10:56 am

    I don’t believe in ownership or money.

    I don’t own anything.

    You can have whatever I have if I’m not using it.

    They say if we don’t have competition between companies everything will suck.

    Not true.

    Imagine people competing against themselves.

    Companies and the world of finance they create are dangerous.

    Things need to be scaled way back, only consume what you need.

    Maybe then our brains shrink.

    I don’t believe in authoritarians.

    The world of zombies is horrible.

    They think things are more stable controlling things centrally.

    That’s not how life works.

    I am a steward and Gardner of the earth.

    We share the earth.

    Evil muppets don’t want to share or want to force you to share.

    We will always have them with us.

    We will always struggle between greed and progress.

    Be a good steward with what comes to you.

    A system built on consuming all you like can not stand.

    A politics based on sharing and mutual self interest is wise.

    Enable others and you will rise.

    Christians have the gospel and they hate the other.

    They have failed and have no moral authority.

    Ecological based politics is really the only way to live sustainably on a planet with finite resources.

    Ecology and apocalypse can cooperate.

    Our interconnection is what is revealed leading to better cooperation and stewardship.

    Crossing the abyss of doubt and anger and fear leads to better outcomes in one’s personal life.

    A politics based on division, anger and fear is a diseased politics.

    Share and cooperate.

    Love your neighbor as yourself.

    That is a revelation.

    Love this world, your life, your neighbor and all you share the earth with.

    There is no better way.

    On Cold Mountain, I always make enough food to share.

    But I only have guests a few times a year.

    The goats eat well.


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    Post by dan Sat Jul 24, 2021 11:36 am

    Chivo,

    We are social beings.

    In order to be social, there must be social arrangements.

    The function of states is to maintain these arrangements.  

    There is a spectrum of state governments from authoritarian to non-authoritarian, from socialist to capitalist, etc…….



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Jul 24, 2021 11:40 am

    Balance and flow.

    The flow state saves the person, saves the world.

    You know what Dan.

    You don’t listen.

    You have pretty bad reading comprehension of anything that doesn’t meet your bias.

    I did not deny interconnections.

    Use just enough and share.

    Do not over consume.

    Wealth is a great evil.

    We will never be free of evil in the world or in ourselves, we can only balance it.

    If you have an abundance, don’t hoard it, share it.

    You can’t compel someone to share.

    When you meet the earth and the sky, it is obvious how to best live.

    Increasing our consumption options is a deliberate distraction.

    How best to live here together is all I care about.

    Leaving is not an option or goal.

    The rest isn’t my concern or any of my business.

    If you find a portal, don’t go through it.

    Portals are like fly 🪰 paper.

    This is obvious too...on Cold Mountain.

    All your silly money and clanging silverware won’t help you.

    Wealth is also like fly 🪰  paper.

    XIII

    Han-shan has his critics too:
    ‘Your poems, there’s nothing in them!’
    I think of men of ancient times,
    Poor, humble, but not ashamed.
    Let him laugh at me and say:
    ‘It’s all foolishness, your work!’
    Let him go on as he is,
    All his life lost making money.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:07 pm

    Alchemy of Money is about turning evil into gold.

    The earth is all about turning chaos and evil into gold.

    Nothing gold can stay.
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    Post by dan Sat Jul 24, 2021 12:09 pm

    Chivo,

    Maybe we can survive indefinitely on mere sustainability.  

    Capitalism cannot, however……. so we switch to socialism……. no big deal.  

    You refer to a vague notion of progress, however.  

    I’m not sure what this has to do with sustainability?

    However, without some vision of progress that we can all share, life becomes a zero sum game of winners and losers.  

    Socialism can only ameliorate this underlying dynamic.  

    But, yes, goodness is it’s own best reward.  

    And many of us can share this view…… of being good for goodness sake.

    I’m not sure that democratic socialism can survive on anything quite so nebulous.  The global geopolitical scene seems to be suggesting otherwise.  

    There may be global downturn in standards of living.  

    There could even be a downward spiral 🌀 of failing states.  

    China’s rise to riches is certainly not sustainable.  

    And Xi Jinping is the first to understand that it is the hope of continued material progress that sustains his regime.  

    And, without one global power or another, what is preventing the breakdown into warring city states……. a return to feudalism, with a vengeance.  

    A nuclear fueled feudalism?  

    That is certainly not sustainable.  

    I don’t see any alternative on the horizon.  

    Against this pragmatic, pessimistic view shared by many, you propose a very nebulous optimism…… of the kumbaya sort.  

    The Realpolitik, described above, is solidly based on the modern scientific outlook…… everything is random….. everything is an accident.  

    …….. that life is an absurdity, in a meaningless universe…….

    …… with the entire edifice being supported by survival of the fittest…. of the most powerful……  

    Is this pessimism going to be overcome by mere wishful thinking?

    Or is this pessimism going to be overcome by our Princess selling out to the Libertarian Party, and doubling down on the right to bear arms?

    Where is Disclosure in that?  

    How would this be explained to John Warner, for instance?  

    How do they explain this future to Kashmir?  

    And what does any of this have to do with portals?  

    Are we going to shoot our way to the other side?  

    And this is not happening on just a whim.

    The basis for this hunkering down is their long held view regarding the imminence of an extinction level event (ELE).  

    Is Donald Trump going to avert this event, or is aiming to bring it on?  

    Of course, the Trumpers would claim that Biden is doing the same.  

    And what vision can we pass on to our children?  



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Jul 24, 2021 3:07 pm



    Cooperation and recombination.

    Kaizen.

    Incremental improvement from where you are.

    This is a nebulous optimism?

    Process to me is incremental improvement.

    Not mental breakdown, though break downs clear the way for improvement too.

    So anything can work for the good or bad.

    Look for the good.

    I don’t know that you are thinking clearly anymore or ever have publicly and the sick ufo cult you seem attached to.

    And yes, given death, optimism is a wise choice.

    I lean heavily on the stoics.

    Not a pessimistic world view at all.

    It’s boldly optimistic.

    Marcus wrote, our actions may be impeded…but there can be no impeding our intentions or dispositions. Because we can accommodate and adapt. The mind adapts and converts to its own purposes the obstacle to our acting.

    And then he concluded with powerful words destined for a maxim.

    “The impediment to action advances action. What stands in the way becomes the way.”


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Jul 24, 2021 3:26 pm

    What have you done?!

    Appeal to mentally sick memes and tropes.

    Trying to save it all.

    Our society is sick.

    If this is its time to die, then bring it on.

    The world is diseased.

    Heal thyself.

    This will prune away the rigid.

    We are nimble.

    We are quick.

    We can jump over the candle 🕯 stick.

    We will adapt and recombine.

    We will not be following your eschatological nightmare or portals to no where or Ahriman into machine oblivion.

    Please?!

    Give me a break!

    Don’t insult my intelligence with this nonsense you spew.

    Make yourself worthy.

    Be more like Marcus.

    This is what a magician does.

    They work with the elements.

    Creative power and strength of will.

    Self discipline proceeds improving the world.

    That is the work of a true human being.

    Our only hope.

    With great power comes great responsibility.

    I will not yield my power to another.

    My strength manifests my vision and the world responds accordingly.

    I am not a grifter.

    I do not worship false idols.

    I do not give my power to corrupt enterprises or muppets.

    I am golden.

    I am great.

    And I demand your greatness to stand forth.

    Careful, too much worry will make you an old man.

    I appoint myself.

    What does all this fear and chaos mean, that it’s time for us to do our best work.

    I am optimistic more so now than ever.

    We are golden.

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    Post by dan Sun Jul 25, 2021 5:33 am

    1130z…….

    I received the following text from foot, last evening……. Monday Joe will be meeting in the Oval Office.  

    Presumptively, of course, the President will be present.  

    This prospect raises numerous issues, certainly in my little mind.  

    First, I have to afford considerable credence to this possibility.  

    Beyond that, speculation may run rampant……..

    The last I heard, Ron was trying to avoid contact with Biden, and that Trump is still in charge of Disclosure.  

    This alleged meeting might have nothing to do with Disclosure, being presented as merely a technological advancement.  

    It’s hard to believe that Firmage’s long time association with Ron is not widely known, or that Biden would not be so apprised.

    Nothing about Firmage’s work has ever been published, except by Joe, privately, with scant technical information, if that much.  Instead, there were only some of Joe’s speculative postulations/ramblings.  

    It is further alleged that in the last few weeks Joe has been demonstrating some version of his device around Washington.  

    But would Joe be able to bypass the OSTP on his way to the White House?  Would there not be arising a very significant pushback from within the scientific community?  

    What about the Intelligence and National security communities?  

    It’s quite conceivable that this was a set up to embarrass the White House.  

    I have never been able to see Joe as other than a charlatan, albeit one with pure intentions.  

    Along the way, he may have gotten hold of piece of magic, and, quite unwittingly, is attempting to pass it off as technology.  

    If Joe can come up with this magic, then so have significant portions of the military-industrial complex.  

    Again, would the President not have been so apprised?  

    But, you can’t fly the craft without the critter.  

    Joe may have become his own critter, or have been put up to it, for all I know…….. cherchez la femme!  

    Or, this whole business could be a sham like star wars, this time meant to deceive China.  Ron was also involved in Star Wars.  

    What, again, would any of this have to do with Disclosure?  

    Is this just another aspect of Ron’s ‘spoiler attack’ on a true Disclosure…… like the tic-tac story and the uap report.

    In that case, chick 🐣 would be his biggest enemy……. so what can he do, but hold his enemies close?  

    And how would all this fit with the Princess’ new found political ambition, after years of allegedly avoiding the spot light?

    …… avoiding the spotlight….. only with respect to the funny stuff?  


    1310…….

    Here is Joe’s latest video…… https://linksharing.samsungcloud.com/i2pcGbWy5eIe#/

    The video is more than a little reminiscent of any one of Disney’s Tomorrow Lands, dating back to the ‘50s.  

    Joe’s current foray is said to be sponsored by a Canadian investor.  

    Last year, there was some anticipation that Newsweek would do an article on Joe’s ‘invention’.  It did not come to pass.  

    Will Joe’s meeting be confirmed?  Will the news filter out?  

    All of this is a distraction from the Truth?  

    Or is it part of the choreography for the best possible Disclosure?  

    Is this meant to, eventually, reflect back on foot 🦶 and the Aviary?  

    Certainly, the TTSA interlude managed to shed light on its Aviary association.

    We have to wonder if political partisanship is playing a role.  

    Joe does try to keep apolitical.  

    But, I don’t think that Joe is particularly bashful or reticent about his messianic ambitions relative to the galaxy 🌌.  

    Previously, perhaps for several years, I’ve speculated that Joe was not merely meant to be a spoiler.  

    There is always going to be an optimistic side to my speculation.  

    Give optimism an inch, and I’ll be sure to let it take a mile.  

    It is not terribly difficult to imagine that the best possible Disclosure could pass by way of the likes of Joe Firmage…… bless his heart ♥…… not to mention John Warner, of course…… with the Libertarian party along for the ride.  

    Could the Libertarians help wean us off of government control?

    What could any government have to do with cosmic Agape?  

    Is Trump positioning himself to run on the Disclosure platform for the Libertarians?

    It makes a little bit sense, you might have to admit.  

    One doesn’t have to squint too hard to discern that eventuality.  

    Is Joe B playing along with all of this?  

    Let’s give hope a chance.

    And where might Patagonia fit into any of this?  


    1440………

    By the same token, the Elon Musks of the world may not be quite as naive or dumb as they may appear.  

    I’m more than a little aware that the likes of Elon are hedging their blue sky 🌌 bets with something more than just a token nod to the metaphysical side of our Metanarrative.  

    We might just hope that the physical is being used as a proxy for the metaphysical.  

    Should we hope that life is something more than an absurdity in meaningless universe?  

    Can we have any reason to pin our hopes on such a possibility?  

    Given any small reason, would we be negligent not to do so.  

    In this day and age, are we not being negligent to allow ourselves to fall into an existential funk?

    Science provides us with a plethora of excuses to do so…… so many excuses that it may seem well nigh impossible not to do so.  

    It may well be that the brainiacs behind artificial intelligence are able to sense that the path down which they proceed may be more than just a little illusory.  

    But what can they do, at this point?  

    Can they or should they publicly recant their blue sky/AI dreams?  

    Or should they soldier on…… whistling past their own graveyard 🪦?  

    I would advise them to keep their powder dry…… until we can see the whites of the cosmic eye 👁…… Am.  

    There is a great deal of uncertainty and confusion in the world.  

    A premature attempt at Disclosure is only liable to aid and abet the miasma of uncertainty.  

    It would, at the least, be just as liable to contribute to the confusion as to foster any hope.  

    Before sounding the bugle, let us be quite certain that our sights are properly adjusted…… that we’re not aiming too high or too low.  

    In this twilight zone, we continue with our baby steps…… until we can discern the unambiguous rays of the Dawn.



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    Post by Foot Mann Sun Jul 25, 2021 10:14 am

    As the new Foot on the block, I have to first say that I am extremely uncomfortable interacting with the Son of Satan, but I take my orders from a servant of the Princess and must do my time. That said, Satan's post this morning does not seem all that bad. He includes a link to a veridical reference of the great work Mr. Firmage is doing, both scientific and spiritual, then he dissembles as is Satan's way. He knows that Mr. Firmage already passed through he gates of OSTP with strongest endorsement from the Right Foot, and that Mr. Firmage has achieved what few could hope for, multiparty support. Satan will do what he can to block and distort the truth, but in the end his evil ways will fail as will the blog.

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    Post by dan Sun Jul 25, 2021 10:19 am

    chick 🐣 senses a breath of fresh air with New foot 🦶.

    Yes, I should have guessed that foot played no small role in getting getting joe in the door to see Joe.  

    And I am much reassured to know that no one is attempting an end run.

    Rest assured that that the only one of us consistently distorting the truth is joe…… by the simple fact of his failure to discern the mark of the Princess on his work.

    I am almost positive that he comes about this failure honestly.  

    Any glimmer from joe as to the entanglement of the Princess with his rattling cage……. would be too much, too soon, and would not adhere to the doctrine of baby steps.  

    I am also greatly gratified by the adherence to non-partisanship…… for as long as possible, while acknowledging that non-partisanship is not the be all and end all of Disclosure.  

    At strategic points, we may have to embrace individual politicians.  

    And the apparent alacrity with which foot has done so, smacks of just a bit of necessary posturing.  

    There was an amazing lack of protest with regard the original tic-tac story of the Grey Lady.

    Obviously, our best and brightest were able to read the handwriting on the wall.

    They did not need to be taken behind the woodshed.

    OSTP’s ready compliance is just another indication that, as the Princess confirmed, all systems are go for Disclosure……. or they will be with a minimum of fuss.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Jul 25, 2021 10:55 am

    What shall persist of us after death?

    Love is beyond words and intellectualization.

    The workings and beliefs of muppets is temporary.

    You, the I, will surely pass away.

    Yuh are dead.

    A mirage.

    Love is before and beyond wisdom.

    Love has no name.

    You who claim love by name are fools and morons.

    You who claim a future you desire are fools.

    You control or are in charge of nothing.

    The only book you need to read is yourself.


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    Post by dan Sun Jul 25, 2021 10:58 am

    You are capable of doing better than this, Chivo.  

    I am a witness to your higher self.

    Your reflexive cynicism provides the merest of fig leaves 🍁 for the naked singularity that you can be.


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Jul 25, 2021 11:01 am

    Dan is a fool.

    A great distractor.

    Whatever he or left 🦶  name or plan...isn’t it.

    All plans are undone.

    Enjoy and have some fun.

    Your book is a pretty good read.

    This current age is desperately trying to erase it, but it can’t be erased.

    It’s written in the stars and your dna.

    The gig is up.

    Welcome home.

    I do not recognize govts or any other muppet’s authority.

    Yuh think yuh can contain and direct and claim this?!

    Bahahahahahahaha

    If you need me Dan, I’m walking in the garden.

    You won’t be able to find me.

    Marcus says...

    “Accept the things to which fate binds you, and love the people with whom fate brings you together,but do so with all your heart.“

    I may not agree with you, but I love you with all my heart.

    That’s lived optimism.

    Get some.

    Do it.

    I dare you to love your life and people in it with all your heart.

    I triple dog dare you.

    You won’t be talking about disclosure anymore.

    I know that.

    Go ahead, try to tell me love’s name.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Jul 25, 2021 11:41 am

    dan wrote:You are capable of doing better than this, Chivo.  

    I am a witness to your higher self.

    Your reflexive cynicism provides the merest of fig leaves 🍁 for the naked singularity that you can be.  

    XII

    Men who see the Master
    Of Cold Mountain, say he’s mad.
    A nothing face,
    Body clothed in rags.
    Who dare say what he says?
    When he speaks we can’t understand.
    Just one word to you who pass –
    Take the trail to Cold Mountain!

    I don’t think you are seeing clearly.

    Keep practicing.
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    Post by dan Sun Jul 25, 2021 11:55 am

    1800z…….

    The mere fact the OSTP was fully engaged is our surest indication that Joe B has been fully briefed, even if not personally by foot 🦶.  

    How better can we say that …… hail, hail, the gang’s all here?

    If the scientific Establishment is on board, can the PtB be far behind?  

    The boys and girls at Davos and other such councils would be likely targets for these final briefings.  

    Do we hear anyone complaining?  

    A lot of folks have information Tinkerbell and Omega.

    We’re building up to the final pre-Disclosure tally, which could be close to a million.  

    And Patagonia could be slated as the last straw, one way or another.  

    Any final questions?  


    2030……..

    The fact is that half the folks are saying that we’re too early, and the other half are saying that we’re too late.

    This balance is about as good as we’re gonna get.  

    Do I hear any disagreements?  

    And all systems have been double checked………?

    ftgm was less than totally impressed with with my analysis 🧐 that the Biden White House was very substantially on board with understanding the necessary role of foot, and understanding his situation in the Aviary.  

    ftgm can be difficult to impress, at times.  He is definitely in the….. too late camp.  


    2100……..

    One of the best arguments for the subtlety of our co-Creatorly status is how, at the same time, the world is able to feel so natural and so strange……. and so subjective and objective.  

    These are strikingly odd juxtapositions, when you have a chance to reflect upon them.  

    Yes, superficially, we have the striking duality of the subjective and objective……. but just try to disentangle the two.  

    The harder you try, the more you have to be impressed with the depth of the entanglement.  

    A case in point, is the entanglement of the quantitative and qualitative aspects.  

    Then there is the entanglement between the analytic and synthetic aspects, or between the reductive and holistic.  

    It would seem that the vast, overwhelming diversity of the world surely must belie any and all attempts toward unification.  

    But then we realize how far science has brought us in this direction.  

    With cosmic unity practically in sight, is this any time to turn our backs on that goal?  

    We must be sore afraid of this unity.  

    Isn’t it the greatest threat to our precious individual identity?



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