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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Thu Jul 08, 2021 9:29 am

    hobbit,

    Alan…… The world is like an onion, it has no center…….

    Well, that depends on your perspective.  

    It may have the best possible center, which tends to be elusive.
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    Post by hobbit Thu Jul 08, 2021 11:21 am

    dan wrote:hobbit,

    Alan…… The world is like an onion, it has no center…….

    Well, that depends on your perspective.  

    It may have the best possible center, which tends to be elusive.



    Onions have central area.

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    Post by hobbit Thu Jul 08, 2021 12:31 pm

    Dan,

    David Icke from two years ago talking about Your internet



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    Post by dan Thu Jul 08, 2021 12:56 pm

    1900z……..

    hobbit,

    The great Katechon is scientific materialism.  

    Science and its hegemony over the modern mind has played an essential role in history.  

    Is it just because God is a drama Queen?

    Science played a crucial role in the development of our co-Creator status.  

    This development could not have occurred had we understood it as the partnership it actually was.  

    And who was our partner?  

    It was our higher selves…… the I Am….. the Source/Telos.

    There was a time limit on this subterfuge.  

    We would begin to pay attention to the cracks in our cosmic shell.

    This increased attention would be choreographed in concert the physical and logical limits of our cosmic shell/playpen.  

    We are not dealing with separate scripts here, there is an overarching coherence to our Metanarrative.  

    Nothing has been left to chance, between the core story and the Metanarrative.  

    In the heat of the moment, we may often seem to be independent actors…… but, fear not, the magic is being managed, sub specie aeternitatis.  And all systems have been double checked…….

    Yes, Hegel had a handle on the teleology of history, but the Telos was still hidden in the mists.  

    The internet, for instance, was slated to play a critical role.

    Even Teilhard, a century later, had serious difficulty with any time frame.  

    Bill Gates, bless his heart, could not fathom the internet.  

    Who the heck could?  


    2000……..

    The Princess?

    What does she know of the core story?  

    Sometimes foot tells me stuff that he forgets to tell her.  

    There was an example, a couple of years ago……..

    Was it something about a portal?  It has escaped me.  

    I alluded to something I had recently been told, and she turned toward him……. it was like…… say, what?  

    Briefly, it was a joke between us.

    It might have had something to do with the extraction of the pod from Islamabad, but that would not have been the correct location, according to the recent addendum.  I guess I’ll have to ask.    



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    Post by GSB Thu Jul 08, 2021 7:54 pm

    Dan, you should check out this recent paper from Stuart Kauffman and Andrea Roli

    The Issues
    This short paper makes four major claims: 1) Strong AI is not possible 2) Brain-mind is
    not purely classical. 3) Brain-Mind Must be Partly Quantum. 4) Qualia are experienced
    and arise with our collapse of the wave function.

    These are quite astonishing claims. Even the first claim is major. Artificial Intelligence
    has been with us since Turing invented his Universal Turing Machine that refigures the
    globe. We await replacement by Siri and Borgs.

    We hope to show this first claim is wrong for wonderful and fundamental reasons. The becoming of any world with an evolving biosphere of philosophic zombies, let alone conscious
    free will agents, is, remarkably, beyond any mathematics we know ...


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Jul 08, 2021 10:56 pm

    The internet is amazing Dan.

    Like better than any Oracle times a billion.

    You can use it for such amazing stuff.

    My techne completely is enabled by it.

    So many sages to nibble on.

    So much history.

    I know how to use it.

    I don’t use it to spread lies.

    I don’t write anything I don’t stand behind.

    I figure the future will read it.

    I’ve watched Dan, he’s really good at the ole internet too.

    He pretends to be poky.

    Yah, thank the gods for the internet.

    As equal a cesspool of course, still, if you figure it out, it’s the greatest thing ever.

    It can give you a view from above no other human has had in any other pre 20th century generation.

    View from above can inspire and enable you to your greatness.

    Or you can watch porn 24x7 or chase conspiracies, same difference.

    They want you numb and dumb.

    Everything is at our fingertips though.

    It is dizzying.

    Why it is even more important to learn how to think clearly and discern and develop your fine tastes.

    You can debase yourself with it too.

    Wasted time there.

    Don’t follow fools and liars.

    It is quite amazing that a ufo nutcase helped develop the early internet, thanks Mr. Valle.

    They probably developed it to talk about aliens.

    Naaa, they started it for the porn.
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    Post by dan Fri Jul 09, 2021 6:02 pm

    Granted that this is wee bit hyperbolic, but you get the gist, with regard to Disclosure……
    I never saw the sun shinin' so bright
    Never saw things goin' so right
    Noticing the days hurrying by
    When you're in love, my how they fly by

    After lights in the sky 🌌, is there anywhere to go, but to boots 🥾 on the ground?

    I’m sure that many folks will think that this is being horribly simplistic.

    Well, folks, hold that thought…….

    Golly, did someone whisper some sweet nothings into my ear?

    Or, the more things change, the more they stay the same.

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    Post by hobbit Sat Jul 10, 2021 12:48 am



    Does this best possible world keep been reset?
    Who does such?
    For who's or what agenda?

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    Post by dan Sat Jul 10, 2021 6:14 am

    1210z………

    hobbit,

    Keep being reset……?

    Nope.  

    Not to worry……. it’s all been set…… as only the BPW can be……. must be.

    This is not a crapshoot, sorry, old man.

    The lights in the sky 🌌 have been arranged.  

    The boots 🥾 on the ground have been arranged.  

    Would you like to complain?  

    The best possible God is waiting patiently to take your best possible complaint.

    And try not to forget that all systems have been double checked ✅.  


    1330………

    Gary,

    True…….. the mind is not an AI.

    The brain is a quantum antenna…….. tuned directly to the One.  

    Plus, of course, every person is tuned directly to every other person.  

    How else could it possibly be?  

    Telephony is just a place holder for telepathy.  

    Or as I said to three…….. portal, smortal……. Disclosure is the only portal I need to see……. it’s the only portal I can see.  


    1430……..

    We all know that something is coming down.

    Being human, we have to assume that it’s something bad.  

    But maybe…… just maybe…… it’s not.  

    That would sure be a surprise.  

    Surprise.  


    1530………

    Academia is shielding us from this Truth.  

    They are Atlas holding up the sky 🌌.  

    They are the Katechon.  

    Some of my best friends have been academicians, and they have nary a clue.  

    They least of all.  

    Jack Sarfatti is my exemplar.  

    What excuse does Jack have?

    He is a one trick pony.

    He believes that he can work everything out with a pencil ✏.  

    Folks point out that chick 🐣 seems to have a similar weakness.  

    Well, my pencil is a number three.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Jul 10, 2021 10:25 am

    The best possible world is new every moment.

    Hobbit with the bounty of the internet you manage haul up one stinker after another.

    You would think Dan and I would rub off on you a little bit.

    Nope.

    And Dan I’ve been tellin you for years the same thing.

    The best possible world is always now.

    Relax.

    Enjoy it.

    Time actually stops when you find the sweet spot.

    You don’t live one life, you live lives within lives.
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    Post by dan Sat Jul 10, 2021 11:11 am

    Chivo,

    Perhaps my sweet spot is little more demanding than your sweet spot.
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    Post by Foot Mann Sat Jul 10, 2021 5:20 pm

    A little bit of knowledge can be dangerous, good think the Chicken's sublimates spontaneously.
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    Post by dan Sun Jul 11, 2021 5:19 am

    1120z……..

    The Princess expressed concern about entropy.  

    I had not looked at it this way.

    How are entanglement and entropy related?  

    Is this a concern or another clue?  

    And how does entropy relate to anthropy?

    And then there is enthalpy……. negentropy, free energy, etc…….

    The concern is that the dissemination of the Truth will lead to its dilution, in some entropic sense.  

    This is certainly the case with energy turning into heat.  

    My understanding is that truth is the opposite of energy.  

    Energy is an illusion, stored within another illusion.  

    Think of the bomb as tearing a hole in the fabric of reality….. using the energy stored in the Big Bang.  

    Will Truth operate in a similar manner?  

    Yes, in a vague sense.  


    2300………

    It’s not quite clear when Creation reached its highest ‘temperature’.

    We are beginning to cool 😎 down.  

    There is a sense in which being one with the One brings us near to absolute zero.  

    From this perspective, the Truth is anti entropic.  

    Opening the portals will only increase the entanglement.  

    Some see the internet acting as a heating coil.

    But, more likely, it is operating as a cooling coil.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Jul 11, 2021 11:00 am

    dan wrote:Chivo,

    Perhaps my sweet spot is little more demanding than your sweet spot.  

    Hubris, I assure you, you are not important Dan.

    Left foot is an old leather shoe, useless.

    In fact you are irrelevant and all your work will blow away like sand in the wind including your ashes.

    Who cares what you demand, ha!

    I demand nothing.

    You think you are gods special toy, nope.

    Muppets are pretty much the same.

    Some think they are smart.

    They aren’t.

    We all love family and bbqs and chillin.

    Some love their work.

    Most hate being away from the things that mean the most.

    Ufos and politics just don’t do it for me.

    My pack is really all that matters to me, pretty much the same for all of us is my guess.

    Demand away muppet.

    Listen to some Primus.

    My name is Mud.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Jul 11, 2021 11:02 am

    Foot Mann wrote:A little bit of knowledge can be dangerous, good think the Chicken's sublimates spontaneously.

    Bahahaha

    🕰

    A clock is right twice a day.

    I take your knowledge and up you agape, which allows you to appear.

    Keep at it muppet.
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    Post by dan Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:18 am

    So there has to be considerable international cooperation relative to Disclosure.  

    But aren’t there any countries pushing for early Disclosure?

    It wouldn’t take much information to be preemptive.

    Why have there been no preemptions?

    Sure, the global PtB are not in any hurry, but there would have to be numerous functionaries also involved.

    But they would also have high security.

    But, in any case, we are, now, on the preemptive track.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:24 am

    Fun fun.
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    Post by GSB Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:44 am

    The Princess expressed concern about entropy.

    I had not looked at it this way.

    How are entanglement and entropy related?

    Is this a concern or another clue?



    Here you go, Dan:

    Entropy and Gravitation: From Black Hole Computers to Dark Energy and Dark Matter
    Y. Jack Ng

    We show that the concept of entropy and the dynamics of gravitation provide the linchpin in a unified scheme to understand the physics of black hole computers, space-time foam, dark energy, dark matter and the phenomenon of turbulence. We use three different methods to estimate the foaminess of space-time, which, in turn, provides a back-door way to derive the Bekenstein-Hawking formula for black hole entropy and the holographic principle. Generalizing the discussion for a static space-time region to the cosmos, we find a component of dark energy (resembling an effective positive cosmological constant of the correct magnitude) in the current epoch of the universe. The conjunction of entropy and gravitation is shown to give rise to a phenomenological model of dark matter, revealing the natural emergence, in galactic and cluster dynamics, of a critical acceleration parameter related to the cosmological constant; the resulting mass profiles are consistent with observations. Unlike ordinary matter, the quanta of the dark sector are shown to obey infinite statistics. This property of dark matter may lead to some non-particle phenomenology, and may explain why dark matter particles have not been detected in dark matter search experiments. We also show that there are deep similarities between the problem of "quantum gravity" (more specifically, the holographic space-time foam) and turbulence.

    https://arxiv.org/pdf/1910.00040.pdf


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    Post by dan Mon Jul 12, 2021 11:02 am

    1700z……..

    Gary,

    Thanks for this paper by Jack Ng.  

    It helps to demonstrate how the celestial appearances have become something of a Rorschach test for mathematicians.

    Could God have done all this by her little lonesome?  

    Why not have mathematicians be the retrospective co Creators?  

    Or why go to all this trouble just to entertain mathematicians?  

    Why, for instance, does the perihelion of Mercury have to precess?

    That is a long stretch just to save the appearances.  

    But, if so, how are these mathematical niceties actually implemented, without resorting to a full scale model?  

    Why not just use objective stars and atoms?  

    Who would object?  

    Why not employ real Evolution?  


    2100…….

    Do we really need the theory of general relativity in order to save the celestial appearances?  

    Perhaps not, but we do need special relativity to save almost every other appearance.  

    I don’t believe that we could make sense of a Big Bang without recourse to general relativity.  The same then goes for cosmology.  

    What if Mercury and light did not bend around the Sun?

    Would that have dealt a fatal blow to physics?

    Would that have spelt the end of modernism?



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    Post by hobbit Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:56 am

    Zer devil is in zer detail.
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/6u83yv7H5eqC/

    Why wont this site play bitchute video?
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    Post by dan Tue Jul 13, 2021 4:43 am

    1040z…….

    hobbit,

    Where there is pronoia, there will also be paranoia.

    I can just assure you that paranoia does not have a future.

    Just ask yourself…….. how did we manage to get here in the first place, if Satan is anything more than a minor annoyance?
    ……..


    Meanwhile, here is another analogy……..

    General relativity is to personalism as special relativity is to inter-personalism.

    Folks may have a bit of difficulty grasping this analogy……. it has to do with black hole 🕳 physics.  

    The paranoid will never grasp it.  

    Paranoia is parasitic upon pronoia.  

    In other words, let me spell it out, hobbit is just an obligatory parasite 🦠……. get over it, get used to it.  

    Galaxies 🌌 would be thought of as paranormal phenomena, had we not invented black holes 🕳 and dark matter.  

    Physics is parasitic 🦠 upon metaphysics, in other words.  

    This is all we ever need to know about physics.  

    It took me 20 years to figure this out, and forty more years to put it into writing ✍.  

    And, just to think 🤔, I might not have been able to do it without hobbit’s annoyance…….. that’s special relativity.  

    And it’s fair to say that God has our numbers……. kinda like like physicists have the numbers on black holes 🕳.  

    If this is not a fair analogy, I don’t know what is?  

    Yes, physics is an obligatory parasite 🦠 on metaphysics…… get over it, get used to it.  

    And, yes, hobbit is correct to understand that this knowledge will be the end of us……. speaking of the best possible Eschaton.  

    hobbit thinks that if we are clever enough, we can escape the Eschaton.  

    Well, hobbit, we are well beyond the event horizon of the Eschaton.  

    However, if you get yourself off the grid, and six feet underground, you might be able to escape the worst/best of the blast 💥 wave 🌊.  

    The rest of us……. we’re gonna have a blast 💥!    

    Get over it, get used to it.

    We all live in a yellow submarine…….. we have never existed outside the event horizon of the I Am.  

    Get over it, get used to it, sports fans.  

    I wonder how the atheists may process this information.  

    It may come as a bit of a shockwave 🌊……. a veritable tsunami 🌊.  

    Even Q will be slow on the uptake.  

    Behind the MoAPS is the mother of all conspiracies.

    So hobbit&co are onto MoAC……… the virus 🦠 and vaccine 💉 are meant to expedite our final participation into the Eschaton.  

    It can be slow and painful or quick and easy.  

    If you know what’s going on, the slow and painful route might be a hoot 🦉.  

    hobbit&co don’t quite know what is going on.

    Let’s hope that they are quick learners.  

    What you really want to avoid is the cosmic knot 🪢 of fear 😨.

    You will be like the Japanese island survivors of WWII……. they emerge from their hobbit holes 🕳……. ten years late ⏰.  


    1230………

    I know what…….. Chivo should have met my guru, Bob Clark.  

    He was a Quaker/Buddhist and former draft counseling hippie who actually lived on a commune with his eventual wife.  

    Eat your heart I love you out, goat 🐐 boy 👦!  

    He actually understood what foot 🦶 was up to.  

    chick 🐣 was like a nuclear ☢ core, and foot 🦶 was the primary control rod.  That’s what he, Ronnie, Eddy and Willy were discussing at that meeting, back in 1980.  

    Gotcha!  

    But I still can’t figure who invited muddy foot 🦶 to the meeting.  

    But who else but…….


    foot thinks it will take a while for the pundits to recollect the aviary.  

    How many weeks…… how many months?  

    How many days to recollect the core story…… speaking of cores.  

    My best guesstimate is that there may well be a million folks out there who have some sort of handle on the core story.  

    So when will it hit the wire services?  

    Will that make any difference?  

    Hitting the wire services will be a bit of an inflection on the Disclosure curve.  

    In other words, most everyone who dares to be a pundit is already more than a little familiar with the core ☢ story.  

    It’s just a question of when the little kid will show up at the parade.  

    Well, ok, I am the little chick 🐣……. but there is another shoe 👞 to drop.  

    Shoe, shoe……. who’s got the shoe.  

    It could well be donny 🐜 …… in cahoots with the Princess 👸.  

    That’s probably it……. see, chick 🐣 may not be quite as stupid as he looks.  

    Tasseography…….. my as*.  

    Yes, the tic-tacs have hit the wire service……..

    The other shoe is the dropping of the core story.

    Pfa, then, is the other shoe……. and the core story?……. well, it’s as simple as 1,2,3.



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    Post by hobbit Tue Jul 13, 2021 7:25 am

    Wow!
    That hit a nerve.

    So to be sure....

    This man made variation of a virus is designed to enable Your eschaton???
    And We are "well beyond the event horizon" of such.

    And that there is an easy and quick route or a slow and painful route.

    Is the quick and easy route marked this way gullible roll up Your sleeve and allow a little prick in Your arm???

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    Post by dan Tue Jul 13, 2021 7:38 am

    The quick and easy route is for the fearless…… the pronoid…….. you may call them the gullible…… others call them the faithful.  

    The slow and painful route is for the fearful…….. it will be the sum of all the fears we ever imagined.  

    It will be a bit of a roller coaster 🎢……. some of us will find it a hoot 🦉.  

    Hey, we’ve paid our dues……


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    Post by hobbit Tue Jul 13, 2021 7:56 am

    I have no fear.
    I am fully aware of been an eternal being.
    I am also aware that the vehicle I control and utilise is encoded to keep Me above ground (in a hole in the ground)


    And that each individual vehicle is self similar to enable the eternal to experience this 3D reality it is in.


    There needs therefore to be a distinction between what the 3D vehicle is programmed to achieve, and what the eternal 5D driver may desire, and whether that is an individual choice  ( suicide) or a designed agenda by others for their experience/s.

    And that such choices should be granted to all individuals on an informed level, not on a lie. a fake so called pandemic.


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    Post by dan Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:01 am

    Ok, hobbit,

    You are pronoid for yourself, and paranoid for everyone else.  

    You should listen more to Chivo 🐐……..

    Worry about yourself, and everything else will take care of itself.  

    I’m worrying whether chick 🐣 will be able to handle a whole 🕳 weekend with the Princess 👸.

    You have not been able to handle one day with the chick 🐣.

    Imagine what a weekend with the Princess 👸 would be like.

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