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Who's Disclosure is Disclosure?

Sun Apr 14, 2019 2:16 am by Cyrellys

The narrative war is in full swing. When there's a 100 different competing narratives, how is it possible to discern a disclosure?

Is it akin to which truth is Truth?




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    Post by dan Sun Jun 20, 2021 8:37 am

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    Post by hobbit Sat Jul 17, 2021 12:08 pm

    Follow the money....



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    Post by Foot Mann Sat Jul 17, 2021 1:38 pm

    Son of Satan is well aware the so called vaccine will kill more than the silly cold virus ever could, yet he masquerades quoting the NYT encouraging people to get vaccinated and die. That old dumb as dirt chicken act covers a multitude of evils.
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    Post by dan Sat Jul 17, 2021 2:35 pm

    The only thing of which I am well aware is that neither you nor hobbit has any knowledge of any biological arguments as to why the vaccines are (not) safe and effective.


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    Post by Foot Mann Sat Jul 17, 2021 3:06 pm

    There are none.
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    Post by dan Sat Jul 17, 2021 3:09 pm

    The only thing of which I am well aware is that neither you nor hobbit has any knowledge of any biological arguments as to why the vaccines are ***not*** safe and effective.
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    Post by Foot Mann Sat Jul 17, 2021 4:58 pm

    I have repeatedly educated Son of Satan on this and many other science issues, but Son of Satan would rather see millions of people die a horrible death so the masquerade continues with NYT quotes.

    Latest data update from the USA VAERS, deaths and hospitalizations from COVID virus are way down; however, deaths and hospitalizations from the vaccine are skyrocketing. USA VAERS thru July 9 -- 10,991 reported vaccine deaths, up by 1943 from previous report thru July 7.

    10,991 vaccine deaths is now on a par with the number of deaths from the Vietnam war in each of two of the 3 years having the greatest number of KIA's (killed in action). Those were 67' - 11, 363, 68' - 16,899, 69' - 11,780. At this rate, we will soon exceed 16,899 the maximum number of Vietnam KIA's in a year, 1968.
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    Post by dan Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:14 pm

    Foot Mann,

    Why are you unable to provide a link to the source for the numbers you are using for the “adverse events”?

    We would also need to see an analysis of said numbers, and how these numbers deviate from various control populations.


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    Post by Foot Mann Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:06 pm

    Sorry, I assumed you would be able to add the .gov: https://vaers.hhs.gov/
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    Post by dan Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:28 pm

    Wonderful, now we need to see the analyses of the data upon which you are basing your conclusions.

    For instance, we need a link to an analysis of how these numbers differ from those for the relevant control populations?

    My understanding is that no causal information is included in any of these reports.
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    Post by Foot Mann Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:33 pm

    Son of Satan with twisted tongue. Always misleading the innocent to steal their souls and send them to hell.
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    Post by dan Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:37 pm

    You continue to offer no reasons or information for you conclusions.

    This is very unhelpful.  

    And are you claiming to be Ron Pandolfi?

    I have a request into Ron to verify whether or not he has been making these posts this evening.
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    Post by Foot Mann Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:59 pm

    Son of Satan can't do the math? Prefers NYT to official USG data? With twisted tongue claimed to be representing Ron Pandolfi for 40 years, now questions a duly authorized poster? I'll bet the Hobbit can do the math, and he did not graduate from three of the world's most prestigious universities. What is Son of Satan hiding?
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    Post by dan Sat Jul 17, 2021 8:24 pm

    The statistics to which you refer do not purport to show any causal linkage between the vaccine and the reported deaths.

    One would have to make detailed comparisons with comparable populations.  

    You are guilty of manslaughter, at the least, for circulating incorrect information, under an assumed identity, which is causing people to make very risky health decisions.  

    You, sir, are playing political games, wittingly or not, with people’s lives.  

    Shame on you.

    Shame on Donald Trump for aiding and abetting people such as yourself, just for his own selfish reasons.

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    Post by U Sat Jul 17, 2021 9:24 pm

    I thought you both wanted to depopulate anyway so what's the big deal?

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    Post by Big Bunny Love Sat Jul 17, 2021 9:31 pm

    Bahahaha

    Things are heatin up.

    This place is lunacy.

    Luv it!

    All you muppets, as you were.

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    Post by hobbit Sun Jul 18, 2021 12:39 am

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/9kNy6AOyeKie/

    I am driven to know why and how My dowsing operates as it does, I am an antennae to ???????

    Most humans appear to be detached from this ability.

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    Post by dan Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:13 am

    1310z………

    I am a populator.  

    I have never been a depopulator.  

    I believe in the best possible number of people……. 10^10…….

    …… understanding that everyone of those people is one with the One.

    ……. and understanding that the best possible world is necessarily finite in its size/quantity……. while infinite in every qualitative dimension.  

    This is exactly the opposite to our modern understanding of the Universe/Multiverse.  

    You don’t have to take this from me, however…….. just sit yourself down, as The Creator, and decide that you want to create the best possible Creation.  

    I challenge you to improve upon what we’ve already got…… understanding that having the appearance of an unlimited Nature is going to be crucial to your final product.  


    1400………

    hobbit,

    We are all naturally skilled at Tasseography.  

    No, I take that back…….. we are all naturally skilled at every possible skill.  

    Tasseography, however, may be our most general skill…… next to love, of course.  

    Dowsing is a sub-skill within Tasseography.  

    Tasseography, in common parlance, is just a fancy word for the reading of tea leaves.  

    Mathematics is a form of Tasseography.  

    Politics and economics are forms of Tasseography.  

    Every discipline is a form of Tasseography, when it is viewed in its tacit dimensions.

    The only thing left over is the digital dimension.  

    I’m sure that hobbit has already introduced us to John Michelle.

    Yes, I have met John.  He has written the classic, very accessible, work on geometry/geomancy/dowsing…… the view over Atlantis (1977) and later versions.  Yes, he does give Watkins a new age flavor.  

    Our going to Patagonia would be an exercise in Tasseography.


    1610………

    The whole concept Tasseography is based on the mutual reflection….. cosmos/microcosmos.  

    Tasseography only makes sense in the best possible (small) world.  


    2300…….

    I have deleted several anti-vaccination posts by hobbit.  

    He is welcome to post here when we he is able to stay on topic.

    Also, I have been unable to verify the claims that tasseography has ever transcended its narrow origins in the reading of tea leaves.  

    I fear that its continued use here will only lead to confusion.  

    I may simply have to invent my own word for recognizing the patterns in the world that best exemplify the coherence theory of truth (CohTT).


    2430………

    There is no word for the study of immaterialism/monism.

    Leibniz came up with monadology, but that is a bit clunky, in my estimation.  


    0140……..

    Gnoseology, more often spelt ‘gnosiology’, is a possible descriptor for our study of monism.  

    Gnoseology, dealing with intuitive knowledge, contrasts with empiricism, which is the collation of knowledge in science.  



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    Post by hobbit Mon Jul 19, 2021 12:22 am

    Dan,

    Thank You for been a liar.
    "anti vaccination"

    Thank You for demonstrating a typical tyrannical reaction.

    You should be perfect as a fact checker.
    Your friend Gates( of hell) and his little side kick falsie fauci are the main employers of the global dictertership where zou vill do as I say or been eliminated, Your removal of previous posts will be an excellent reference and if You require further I will gladly recommend You as a perfect one world order student.

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    Post by dan Mon Jul 19, 2021 5:59 am

    1200z…….  

    Your concerns and fears are perfectly understandable, hobbit.  

    There is a lot to be paranoid about in the world today, and it is only likely to get worse.  

    The ugly head of the cosmic mind is looming back into view……..
    The darkness drops again; but now I know
    That twenty centuries of stony sleep
    Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
    And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
    Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?
    I’m trying to tell you that little chick 🐣 is the rough beast.  

    You look everywhere, desperately, except under your own nose.  

    I find it amusing that you side with donny against fauci.

    Now I am no fan of science, let alone Big Science.  

    But I am here to choose my battles, not to lash out against the encroaching darkness.  

    Yes, we are about to be swallowed by the Monad, but it won’t be coming by way of needle 💉 jabs.  

    It will be coming by way of the portals.  

    Everything else is a distraction.

    Yes, the pandemic 😷, itself, is a major distraction, but……

    By trying to fight fire 🧯 with fire 🔥, you are only adding to the coming conflagration……..

    ….. the Bonfire 🔥 of all our vanities…… all our little egos.  

    The Big Ego draws nigh.  

    Even an Ego as big as Donald Trump’s will only be, by comparison, a mosquito 🦟 bite on the cosmic Arse.

    My advice to you, hobbit, and to all of us is to keep our powder dry.

    Don’t go off half cocked.

    Be wise as serpents and gentle as doves.  

    Yes, there will be a depopulation of the Earth.  

    But this will be the best possible depopulation.

    It will be perfectly witting….. it will not be coming at the end of a needle 💉.  

    It will be coming with your neighborhood portal meister.

    He used to be the neighborhood drug pusher.  


    1320……..

    The prospective meeting with John W is still being discussed, but it couldn’t be for another two weeks.  

    Meanwhile, fake foot is throwing in the towel on OM.

    I guess he couldn’t handle the truth.  

    In speaking with the other foot, we harkened back to climate denial.  

    The problem with the climate and vaccine deniers is that they don’t have a spokesperson.  

    The problem with the climate and vaccine pushers is that they have the same problem.  

    Now, I understand that the New York Times carries a lot of weight in global circles, but, even the NYT, is gonna need a spokesperson.  

    It won’t be needing some Grey faced Editor in Chief.  

    It has been said that all good persons are gonna have to come to the aid of their Party.  

    No, that’s not quite right.

    All good parties will have to come to the aid of their Person.

    If that person is not the incarnation of the I Am…… lots of luck 🍀.  

    According to the good book, there are slated to be two such incarnations in history……. #1 and #2.  

    chick 🐣 is volunteering for the #2 spot.  

    John W may be cast into the role of referee.  

    Along these same lines, I understand that both China and IBM are in the process of being humbled.  

    They both thought that all you had do with any problem was to throw Big Money or Big Iron at it……. preferably both.  (I guess they never heard of the personal computer.)

    Where did I learn this?  

    Where else but with the Grey Lady?  

    And I’m thinking that this may be the problem with Patagonia.  

    I’ll know where I am, but who will be on the other end?  

    It takes two to tango.  

    All entanglement starts with a tango…… go figure.  

    On the other end…..  it will have to be either donny or the jguy.  

    donny has Lilliputian problems.  

    I guess he came out of his cave prematurely.  

    He didn’t have time to do any homework.  

    How much truth can you learn at the wrong end of a tv lens?  

    Same goes for John W…… how much truth can you learn in a racing car?  

    Similar problem for Joe F.  

    In the End, all truth is personal…… get over it.  


    1450……..

    The way I figure it, a meeting with John W would be tantamount to Disclosure.  

    How do you figure it?  

    This would be like foot 🦶’s coming out party 🎉.  

    This would be his final big move.  

    This would be the second shoe dropping…… after the mandated uap report.  

    Yes, Houston, we have a phenomenology problem…… and a few others to boot.  


    1540……..

    It turns out that Kiviat has been talking to foot, all along.  

    I knew that they had something going on since the lawsuit, but I wasn’t fully aware of its currency.

    This was an inadvertent form of Disclosure for me.  

    Are the chickens coming home to roost?

    Kloor is not returning my call.  

    There is only one question…….

    Will it be lights in the sky 🌌 or boots 🥾 on ground?  

    If the latter…….. whose boots?  


    1650………

    It may be that tasseography is back on the table.

    The give away should have been its root…… tass.  

    One aspect comes from demi-tasse.  


    1800…….

    Demi-tasse has to do with espresso, not with tea.

    The alleged historical definition has to do with a coffee klatch for philosophers.  

    ….. a klatch brought together by the Ottoman emperor to offer advice on some philosophical issue, or another.  They would stare into their cups while pondering the issue.  

    I have not been able to trace this historical allusion using google.  

    And is all this not just clouds in our coffee ☕?

    Understand that it’s not Lear jet.  

    And, as a bribe, mind you, there might also be a tiny plane for chick 🐣.  

    But John would be a first outsider for me.  

    And what do airplanes have to do with tasseography?  

    Or are we back to geomancy?


    1920…….

    And while on the subject of Patagonia and John W, you might wish to google New Swabia….. speaking of geomancy.  

    Or maybe donny is looking for his ShangriLa, also?  Send out the scouts.  


    2320……..

    In this possible run up to Disclosure, I’m being better apprised of the probable extent of phenomenological knowledge enclaves outside of the government.  In point of fact, gummints are likely playing catch up, especially in regard to the esoteric dimensions.  

    Are the PtB using this information for their own benefit?  

    It would be a surprise if they weren’t.  

    Do they understand that, whatever they are doing with the funny stuff……… do they realize that it is being done on borrowed time…….. that chickens are coming home to roost?  

    …… that whatever rock they have been playing under is about to be turned over?  

    Can we imagine they could be so oblivious?

    In the meantime, ever hear of a chicken laying green eggs?  

    Is this a sign from beyond ananda?  



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    Post by dan Tue Jul 20, 2021 4:42 am

    1040z…….

    Hello, world,

    I believe that the end is in sight.

    Yes, I believe that JW could clinch the deal on my end of things.  

    Everything else will then be able to fall into place, each in its own time……. kinda like Chivo.  

    All I have to do is explain this to JW.  

    All I have to demonstrate is that it is a small world.  

    And I can do that by explaining how a piece of the sky 🌌 fell on my head.  That piece is #3.

    Yes, if JW is looking for the Truth, he came to the right place.  

    Someone is going to have to explain the advent of little chick 🐣 to the rest of the world.  That’s all, folks.  

    And it all goes back to that fateful meeting (c1980) with willie, eddie, ronnie and foot……. having to do with the winding down of the Cold War.  It was also about 3 and maybe about 1, even.

    This would have been ronnie’s first briefing…… a few months away from the White House.  This is where the rubber met the road.  

    We already have a Group of Four…… Britain, India, Russia the US.  

    The odd man out is China, but through AM and, now, MP, we have a pretty good handle on China……. and they know it, at least Xi does.  

    It’s all about maintaining the high ground.  

    3 is the high ground, and we, four, were able to purloin her right from under China’s nose.  

    And it may be about flying a little plane into the setting Sun…… off Patagonia.  Go west young man.  

    JW’s dad died just a couple of months ago.  He is taking time off in Colorado.  Not to worry…… we’ll be here when he returns.  


    1150………

    Everything is just a microcosm……. and man is it’s measure.  

    The microcosm is the Logos Spermatikos.  

    The Logos plays out in the world around us.  

    Then comes the Harvest.  

    hobbit is sore afraid of the Harvest…… but, no, it won’t come at the end of a needle 💉.  

    For some, it may just be a pill 💊, or a tea 🍵.  

    Once we’ve seen Paris, it’s gonna be hard to keep us down on the farm.  

    You’ll have to admit, it been quite a trick and a trip, too.  

    Yes, we have managed to keep ourselves down on the farm……. the best possible farm……. for the last six thousand years.

    That’s only a quarter of a Great Cycle.  

    Yes, it’s been the best possible Quarter.  

    I can sort of see one and three off into the sunset.  

    But not two and three and half.  k will have to look after her dad.  

    He knows too much.  He’ll have to stick around.  

    The rest of us…… we know just what we need to know, when we need to know it.  We have no other expectations.  



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    Post by GSB Tue Jul 20, 2021 6:49 am

    Question of the day: Is the human soul an NFT on a cosmic quantum blockchain?

    Hint: It's all about "store of value" ;-)

    https://arxiv.org/pdf/1804.05979.pdf

    Today's Question for Dan (TQD): When Jack uploads his human consciousness will it go to the Single Authority Tasking All Networks (aka SATAN) OR be securely stored in a decentralized quantum cosmic blockchain cloud?


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    Post by dan Tue Jul 20, 2021 6:52 am

    1250z…….

    Ok, Gary,

    I guess you’ll have to go to the head of the class, smarty pants 👖.


    And, yes, it’s lead my pony from his stall, and turn our faces to the west……  


    1540…….

    I was surprised to learn that RT and JW had never met although the grandfather and father, respectively, were well known to each other, and both of them have been been working with foot on projects.  

    RT, however, is temporarily not authorized to speak with me.

    I am trying to get my little head around the quantum blockchain.  

    It is daunting.  

    I may have to get Gary to explain it to us.  

    At one point I was able to understand the world as a quantum hologram, but, now, it’s escaped me.  Or that our souls were like pixels in the world hologram?

    Or that we are a phased array of bidirectional antennas?  

    Our co-Creatorship does need a physical model, or two……

    It is about pratītyasamutpāda.  



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    Post by Big Bunny Love Tue Jul 20, 2021 2:12 pm

    And I go outside and play with the flowers and hummingbirds and I know everything.

    Keep at it Dan, one way or another perhaps you shall get here.

    Science is blind.

    Put your heart into it.

    I would never bind myself to a machine.

    That way is death.
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    Post by dan Wed Jul 21, 2021 5:35 am

    Thank you, Chivo, for your kind permission.

    I think I just might……


    foot was rather upset with me, yesterday, when I suggested to Bob Kiviat that Ron might be encouraging Brandon Feugal’s support Keith Kloor’s ufo investigation.  

    It’s fair to say the Bob and Keith do not get along.

    What I would like to know is why, in God’s name, would Brandon not reach out to foot to garner his support?  

    Why would foot not, then, offer his support?  

    But, before we tackle those questions I have to comment on the NYT podcast…….. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/21/opinion/aliens-contact-ufos.html

    It was incredibly stupid…… on the part of all three parties…… the Times, Michio and Doug V.  

    They should all be ashamed for addressing what is now a totally outdated topic……. should we be attempting to contact ETs?

    The three way conversation was introduced with the acknowledgment by the US Government that we were probably already being contacted by aliens.  

    However, neither one of the parties ever again made reference to the ongoing contact.  

    Michio and Doug V simply rehashed the very stale, completely hypothetical arguments surrounding the SETI program.  

    It was a shocking display of academia’s inability to get its head around new information……. information which should have been a game changer.  

    It’s going to be incredibly hard for academia to deal with the fact that their cheese 🧀 has been moved.

    It will only become increasingly obvious that the Intellectual Establishment is surviving only on fumes……. surviving only on the maintenance of its herd mentality.  

    Its herd mentality is scientific materialism….. secular humanism.

    I can only reiterate the incredible gap between Humanism and Personalism.

    That gap is very closely aligned with the gap between materialism and immaterialism.



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    Post by GSB Wed Jul 21, 2021 6:24 am

    It's all about "Store of Value" (SoV) and "Store Of User's Life"

    Work in progress:

    I-LIVE

    "Information requires representation."

    We propose that the unusual and transient nature observed (by human senses and electronic instrumentation) of so-called paranormal activity (as witnessed, for example, at Utah's Skinwalker Ranch) suggests an analog of emerging decentralized finance: specifically decentralized finance cloud storage. In the case of transient paranormal phenomena, we suggest a possible analog for distributed intelligence preservation, or "soul."

    As an example of the concept we call Decentralized Non-local Storage and Asset Recovery (DNLSAR) utilizing a token of value (I-LIVE), we introduce or substitute "intelligence," "soul," "cosmic," "mental," "resurrection" and "entity" in the ordinary description of an emerging decentralized finance cloud storage service in the paragraph that follows:

    I-LIVE is a cosmic token that powers a decentralized cosmic cloud storage network for intelligence called DNLSAR. After a soul uploads, pieces of each soul are distributed to a cosmic network of independent (mental or Minted Intelligent Network Device) nodes located throughout the cosmos. After requesting the soul, it is then recompiled securely and made available for download (resurrection). This means that any entity employing DNLSAR technology can store souls on DNLSAR without having to trust a centralized cosmic data center. An entity can earn I-LIVE cosmic cloud storage services with DNLSAR. Network participants earn I-LIVE in return for providing unused MIND storage space and bandwidth to the network.

    A key concept for distributed "pieces" of each soul is the requirement to preserve the dynamically evolving quality inherent in each living piece. We suggest some of the unusual subjective characteristics observed when human observers interact with reported paranormal activity might be due, in part, to the dynamically distributed nature of the DNLSAR process.


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