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Who's Disclosure is Disclosure?

Sun Apr 14, 2019 2:16 am by Cyrellys

The narrative war is in full swing. When there's a 100 different competing narratives, how is it possible to discern a disclosure?

Is it akin to which truth is Truth?




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    Post by dan Sun Jun 20, 2021 8:37 am

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    Post by Big Bunny Love Sat Aug 14, 2021 10:19 am

    And you all just ignore what I said about wetiko.

    Friends yuh are infected with mind virus or you would be exposing it.

    But you are all wrapped up in this total disease.

    This is the most important realization in life.

    It should get our attention that every person or group of people that have discovered wetiko (by whatever name we call it) unanimously consider it to be the most important topic (it has been called “the topic of topics”)—there’s not even any competition—to understand in our world today. Wetiko is at the very root of every crisis we face – climate change (including our lack of response, our confusion around the topic and the hidden agendas attached to it), the threat of nuclear war, social injustice, political malfeasance, financial corruption, endless war etc. Called by many different names throughout history, the spirit of wetiko renders every other issue secondary, for wetiko is the over-arching umbrella that contains, subsumes, informs and underlies every form of self-and-other destruction that our species is acting out seemingly uncontrollably in our world today on every scale. The less wetiko is recognized, however, the more seemingly powerful, and dangerous it becomes. If we don’t come to terms with what wetiko is revealing to us, however, nothing else will matter, as there will be no more human species.

    Dan has been completely compromised by wetiko.

    We all have.

    C. G. Jung was well aware of this pathology, referring to it in many different ways (for example, oftentimes referring to the dangers of psychic epidemics, the germ of evil, totalitarian psychosis, imperialistic madness, counterfeiting spirits, powers of darkness, the demon of sickness, etc.).

    To quote Alnoor Ladha and Martin Kirk from their article called “Seeing Wetiko: On Capitalism, Mind Viruses, and Antidotes for a World in Transition, “Wetiko short-circuits the individual’s ability to see itself as an enmeshed and interdependent part of a balanced environment and raises the self-serving ego to supremacy.” It is thus particularly dangerous when those who are taken over by wetiko are in positions of power. To quote Forbes, “if we continue to allow the wetikos to define reality in their insane way we will never be able to resist or curtail the disease.”  

    You won’t see it.

    You won’t listen.

    But you have to realize how sick you are.

    Columbus and Other Cannibals. Forbes writes, “For several thousands of years human beings have suffered from a plague, a disease worse than leprosy, a sickness worse than malaria, a malady much more terrible than smallpox…. Tragically, the history of the world for the past 2,000 years is, in great part, the story of the epidemiology of the wetiko disease…. This disease is the greatest epidemic sickness known to man.” In his foreword to Forbes’ book, author and environmental activist Derrick Jensen asks the question, “Why is the dominant culture so excruciatingly, relentlessly, insanely, genocidally, ecocidally, suicidally destructive?” Oftentimes, the most important thing is to ask the right question. Make no mistake, Jensen’s question is the right question. The idea of wetiko helps us get a handle on how to answer it. The idea of wetiko—with its new way of envisioning what is happening in our world—has a real benefit and utility, helping us wrap our minds around the current madness that is overtaking our planet.

    Maybe wetiko has won and it’s too late.

    But I know it wasn’t too late for creativity and love to break through this insane vampiric spirit in my mind.

    My awakening was a desperate struggle.

    I am convinced Covid is the physical side of the mental disease that has plagued us.

    I’m not alone.

    Listen to what I have said on OMF.

    Consider it.

    You are me and I am you.

    And the whole world inside and out is a large interconnected whole.

    And we are under attack from within by a hideous strength.

    It has always stalked us and fed off of us.

    Met us in our nightmares.

    And Trump and all his nationalistic mania and selfishness is the true face of Wetiko.

    In one way it is horrifying to awaken from the dream.

    To see how all our energy has been eaten up by this insidious force.

    Lovecraft’s monsters, the faces of wetiko.

    Dan has wasted his whole life on disclosure and eschatology.

    It consumed and ate him up.

    I wasted my whole life until my early 40s under its control.

    What are you going to do?

    What can you do?

    You awaken from the dream and are tempted to just give up and lose all hope.

    But no, there is a way.

    There is a counter to this evil.

    You.

    Greed has made a home of us.

    We build walls.

    Psychedelics helped me to see it.

    Mushrooms brought me powerful medicine too.

    The earth healed me from my disease.

    And then I had to wake up.

    Are we too afraid to see this hideous power?

    Don’t be.

    The earth can help you wake up.

    To see wetiko is to expose its hold.

    To love one another is a counter to it.

    Compassion, love for each other, realizing our intimate connections, all help us awaken.  

    Know thyself.

    Heal thyself.

    Out of the mouth of babes.



    You can overcome the “counterfeiting spirt.”

    Cultivate your connections, don’t isolate yourself, you are not alone or isolated.

    Cultivate creativity, compassion and peace.

    Replace your insatiable desire with giving and generosity.

    When people approach god with insatiable desire, they corrupt their connections to love.

    They create hideous religious monsters.

    It sucks I live in a mind infected world.

    But I love it anyway.

    Wetiko is proof long sought by our people that we are not alone.

    Know thy enemy and you shall know yourself.

    Infect yourself with love.

    Expose your greed to the light of love.

    Poetry, song, philosophy, the great sages, listen to them all.

    They were all giving you protections and hedges against this insane desire to consume what others have not giving back.

    Give back.

    I am giving back.

    I’m giving my all in life.

    I have embraced you.

    I have kissed you.

    And I can’t and won’t let go.

    All my love.
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    Post by hobbit Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:08 am

    Smelly one.

    I do not have the words, but what I have been trying to convey and why I use the name of hobbit is all to do with this consciousness virus.

    It is an information system of memories within memories, that enables the combined inputs to create an overall output consequence.

    But to recognise such one needs to fully comprehend it's methodology, how it actually is there as this non visible omni present STUFF.

    It thrives on fear due to the inputs it receives from humans are self similar when fear based.

    The herd reactions are due to the all permeating consciousness carrying within the planets overall memory field the messages that humans then respond to.

    Those who are standing against this then become the herds targets as the outcasts and not acting supposedly in the herds best interests.

    It is as if a giant transmitter was broadcasting this fear right now .

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    Post by hobbit Sat Aug 14, 2021 2:37 pm

    Here is how the mind virus is going in the good old USA.

    https://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/vaccine-hesitant-conspiracy-theorists-domestic-terrorism-threat-new-homeland-secu3?utm_campaign=Weekly%20Newsletter%3A%20The%20Week%20In%20Review%20%28Um6L4m%29&utm_medium=email&utm_source=Daily%20Newsletter&_kx=FV51u8woCmYijq8MMEzchb6WDVBAaisc8ic6XxrtCGE%3D.K2vXAy

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    Post by GSB Sat Aug 14, 2021 5:58 pm

    What God, Quantum Mechanics and Consciousness Have in Common
    Theories that try to explain these big metaphysical mysteries fall short, making agnosticism the only sensible stance

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-god-quantum-mechanics-and-consciousness-have-in-common/


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    Post by Cheguevoblin Sat Aug 14, 2021 7:53 pm

    Take away

    the ‘a’ and the ‘ism’

    That’s closer.

    Sensible and reasonable.
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    Post by Big Bunny Love Sun Aug 15, 2021 10:55 am

    Well hobbit, I’m an emanation of Shiva, small world.

    The mind virus trades in conspiracies, cultivates distrust, drives muppets to insane levels of lust and greed.

    It’s been with us since the beginning.

    Lust and greed are fine in small doses, we have to keep living and eating and expelling our waste and loving and breathing until breathing is done.

    But Wetiko is double sided like all things and all tarot cards.

    It destroys and creates, creates and destroys.

    It has one goal, multiply, propagate, infect, but when you see it, you can get the upper hand eventually and dissolve its tendrils with magic zen fairy 🧚️ dust that doesn’t really exist.

    Fight fire 🧯 with imagination.

    Your enemy is your friend too.

    Know your enemy, know yourself.

    Dan is my enemy, but also my friend.

    I am your enemy, but also, your friend.

    Who can reconcile these things?

    The root of evil and good are in you.

    We don’t have to look out at the world to know them.

    You observe your own darkness, that’s the only place to look.

    Any of us could have stood with hitler or trump.

    That’s a sobering realization.

    We are the monsters.

    How 74 million muppets are down with grabbing the pu**y is a revelation.

    We are sick and diseased.

    And we are always whole where we stand, the cure.

    How can we be the disease and the cure?

    Quite a paradox.

    In a flash you can see original face, happening right before you.

    I recently remembered a Sanskrit phrase.

    Dukhalaya Ashaswatam

    If you can cross the abyss of paradox, I’ll meet you on cold mountain sometime and we can talk about the Tao over some tea.

    Yuh can share your poems with me then.

    Mine are written on the walls of my heart, which is the same as the mountain walls.

    Did I write the poems on the wall, or were they always there?
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    Post by U Sun Aug 15, 2021 11:38 am

    FTD where do you think Wetiko originated from? Do you have any theories? Was it created from within ourselves or an external source?
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    Post by Big Bunny Love Sun Aug 15, 2021 12:19 pm

    Everything comes from us.

    There is nothing outside ourselves.

    It’s a small small world.

    That’s the magic leap to realize.

    The ancients and modern day folks and I feel wetiko has been with us since we became conscious.

    Its greatest weapon is making us feel isolated and alone.

    But we are totally connected to everything.

    In that gap of separation, it thrives, it divides and corrupts us.

    You can see it now!

    Look at the world now!

    It’s happening before our eyes.

    Separation, isolating the other, building walls, this is wetiko.

    You can observe wetiko, isolate it, dissolve it.

    You can’t fight it with force.

    In my opinion all Disclosure related energy is wetiko driven.

    They are all infected who swirl around that black hole.

    But naming it wetiko, is doing what Carl Jung suggested, isolating evil in the imagination.

    If we don’t, we are totally open to it’s influence.

    The battle is waged in mind.

    And won in wholeness and connection.

    It was invisible.

    But now it is alive and in our face.

    Its insidious strength though is an illusion.

    If one isn’t sure if they are infected, then they are.

    Stop separating.

    Stop fighting the other.

    Invite wetiko in for tea.

    Invite others in.

    And then…whoa, the veil lifts and finally you are home.

    Those preaching revolution and picking up guns are wetiko.

    They hate you because they don’t know wholeness.

    It’s going to get worse.

    Much much worse.

    Dealing with ones split mind is the best and most important work one can do.

    Helping others help themselves is the best thing to do.

    In wholeness you realize you have a responsibility to everything you are aware of in your little limited field of influence.

    I’m responsible for you.

    I’m responsible for the earth.

    So are all of us.


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    Post by hobbit Sun Aug 15, 2021 12:25 pm

    U wrote:FTD where do you think Wetiko originated from? Do you have any theories? Was it created from within ourselves or an external source?



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    Post by Big Bunny Love Sun Aug 15, 2021 12:34 pm

    hobbit wrote:
    U wrote:FTD where do you think Wetiko originated from? Do you have any theories? Was it created from within ourselves or an external source?



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    Right here.

    Exactly, no Heaven or hell.

    Living for some reward in the sky is destroying our world.

    It’s a lie.

    A total sham.

    Like every priest is a sham and liar.

    My god when you let all that drive for things go how you open like a flower.

    A flower wetiko wants to cover in shit.

    Because it’s in pain.

    Wetiko is the sum of our pain and lust to numb it, now playing out as Covid and people fighting for rights to do as they like.

    We can’t do as we like, we have to balance our actions with the interests of others and the earth.

    It’s absolutely incredible to see.

    But it’s also a kind of proof.

    Proof of reality.

    We are responsible for each other.
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    Post by Big Bunny Love Sun Aug 15, 2021 12:42 pm

    I agree with the Lakota and have accepted life is eternal from our view.

    No past present or future really.

    There is no fear of forever oblivion here.

    There is no anxiety about being good enough.

    We are here.

    Good enough.

    I am alive before birth during being on earth and after my death.

    Life showed me this.

    The earth showed me this.

    The feeling of separation and struggle to be was ended.

    I am being here.

    That’s the proper translation for I am.

    I am being here.

    I wish that for all muppets to know and live in.

    To respect the earth and one another.

    So just look at the world now again, all this energy fighting and controlling, just delusion and illusions.

    But at the base, there is only reality.

    Align yourself with this.

    Not any group or ideology or political leader or god.

    This swells my heart with love of this.

    Wetiko swells my desire for more.

    Balance balance.

    Things will balance.
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    Post by dan Sun Aug 15, 2021 1:02 pm

    The greatest force for separation in the world is scientific materialism/reductionism.  

    Chivo is so stupid that he can’t realize this.  

    Scientific materialism is the greatest force behind Wetiko.  

    Scientific materialism is the best possible source of evil in the world.  

    By so doggedly aligning himself against this simple Truth, Chivo is aligning himself with the Evil.  

    Science is ultimately banal.

    Anyone who does not align themselves against science is aligning themselves with it.

    But, no, being merely anti-science is also evil.

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    Post by hobbit Sun Aug 15, 2021 1:19 pm

    The vehicles most inhabit are human, but the vehicle driver is not.

    The native of this planet are human beings, as are all the vehicles, but there are alien drivers of most of the humans, and it is those aliens that want ever more experiences.

    the native humans are same as the trees, just content to be what they are and want no extra, but the aliens that occupy the heart location in most humans is almost desperate for ever more novelty, and they are the enablers of the scientific materialistic fervour .

    They are the wetiko, they are aliens that come from 5D.

    They are resisted by hobbits.

    The aliens are within humans, and will kill off those who resist them, the wetiko are a form of the borg.


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    Post by Big Bunny Love Sun Aug 15, 2021 1:34 pm

    dan wrote:The greatest force for separation in the world is scientific materialism/reductionism.  

    Chivo is so stupid that he can’t realize this.  

    Scientific materialism is the greatest force behind Wetiko.  

    Scientific materialism is the best possible source of evil in the world.  

    By so doggedly aligning himself against this simple Truth, Chivo is aligning himself with the Evil.  

    Science is ultimately banal.

    Anyone who does not align themselves against science is aligning themselves with it.  

    But, no, being merely anti-science is also evil.

    (cont……..)

    You don’t listen to anything I say, I can just talk about it a lot better than you.

    We are saying the same thing.

    In reality nothing inside is separate from anything else.

    Materialism is wetiko.

    Created by the isolation wetiko fostered in separated minds.

    Science is not in itself evil.

    Not connected to our reality it is.

    You have a real bias against science.

    It’s blinded you.

    That’s wetiko.

    You have your terms mixed up.

    You are old, it happens.

    Know the tree by its fruit and I’d put mine up against yours any day.

    You haven’t ever tasted this.

    But you are blinded for a reason.

    Soon, you shall see, and you will know us.



    Now we are getting to the heart of all that is happening.

    Can you feel it?

    Sure we shove each other around, but we are close now.

    Oh, I can feel it.

    We have identified the cause of materialism.

    A naturalist approach will help us move beyond it.

    Just relax old man.

    We got this.
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    Post by dan Sun Aug 15, 2021 1:50 pm

    You cannot ignore the fact that science aligns itself with evil.  

    However, those who blindly align themselves against science are only contributing to its corruption of the human spirit.

    The only way to fight science is to profess the Truth.  

    Yes, Chivo does profess that the Truth is fully present in every last one of us.

    Where he fails, is failing to contribute to the determination of that Truth.



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    Post by Big Bunny Love Sun Aug 15, 2021 1:54 pm

    ISIS Unveiled

    I have made you in my likeness
    And I will make you the keeper of my garden world
    If you honor me in kind, I'll be grateful, but be warned
    I'm a jealous God
    Who placed the demons in hell
    And the angels in heaven
    At my side
    So set me free, I'll grant your hearts desire
    And I will share the secrets of the grand design
    Give me daughters, send me sons and I'll make them all chosen ones
    I will send them out to die
    To meet the angels of death
    With no tears, no regrets
    I was cast down from the heights
    My blood must pay for the debt
    That was made when they left
    Because of me
    And if they taste the blood we'll let them drink
    And if they taste the flesh we'll let them eat
    And if one has to be forgiven then we'll pardon all of them
    And if they raze our walls we'll let them in
    And if they raise their swords we'll let them hit
    And if one has to be forgiven then
    We'll love them
    Let me lead you to the garden world
    I will place you at the right of my father's hand
    I was tempted in the wild I crossed from start till end of time
    I emerged the sacred lamb
    Whose blood must pay for the debt
    That was made when they left
    As I ascend into the sky I'll free the angels from hell
    And place them in heaven
    At my side
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    Post by Big Bunny Love Sun Aug 15, 2021 1:55 pm

    dan wrote:You cannot ignore the fact that science aligns itself with evil.  

    However, those who blindly align themselves against science are only contributing to its corruption of the human spirit.

    The only way to fight science is to profess the Truth.  



    (cont………)

    I agree dodo 🦤

    Jesus Christ on a cross are you thick!

    Let me say what you said a lot better, as usual.

    I already did above.

    Foster generosity, and connection and fraternity and compassion.

    Connect what only seems separated, by not separating things.

    That’s the truth, but more, it’s the best way to be and live free.  

    Old man, I have been 20 steps ahead of you this whole time we know each other.

    Have a little faith.

    Relax.

    We can compliment one another.

    I’m a lot like you.

    I know, the stakes seem high.

    Well, I have some friends in the sky helping me out.

    ISIS is unveiled.


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    Post by hobbit Sun Aug 15, 2021 2:00 pm

    When parking ones car You will lock it to resist others from entering it.
    if You leave Your house You will lock it up to resist burglars.

    But especially when You sleep most humans are open channel to whatever desires to inhabit them.

    I focus a white shield around the exterior of My consciousness field.

    But first off You need to realise and comprehend that You are within such, I have been trying to explain about this upon here.

    Humans must be the most sought after targets for other entities to occupy and thus experience as humans are the most bizarre entities going.


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    Post by Big Bunny Love Sun Aug 15, 2021 2:08 pm

    Because we are the gateway hobbit.

    The bridge between worlds.

    And much seems to want to control the bridge.

    Let them come and fight and storm our gates.

    But we shall not fight.

    We shall open the gates and trap them with love.

    Where there is hatred, we will bring peace.

    We are the Sons and Daughters of the unnamed.

    “Even though I walk through the darkest valley, I will fear no evil, for you are with me; your rod and your staff, they comfort me.”

    As you have done hobbit, it behooves us to pick up our rod and staff.

    I was ravaged by darkness, like you all, but no more.

    We have the scars to show that we were here.

    We are all worthy and already have Buddha nature.

    We just have to let it come forth.

    It shatters the illusion of materialism and limits of scientism.

    We are already home in reality.

    We just have to realize that here now and we are I feel.

    So many are choosing love over greed.

    Those compromised have doubled down on their evil, but it won’t last.

    The virus will kill us all or weaken and fade away again.

    But seeing it here now has purpose and is meant to show us what has laid hidden.

    Everyone’s cards on the table now.

    Even as dark as it seems and getting darker.

    It’s just a big setup for love.

    Can you dig this?

    Wetiko will make you doubt it all, doubt yourself, doubt what you know, that you are the living embodiment of this.

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    Post by hobbit Sun Aug 15, 2021 2:29 pm

    Love actually expands humans field diameters, fear contracts the field diameter....I bother to check such, as i can.

    This wetiko thrives in fear, and this is where frequencies come in as just with Your radio there are multiple frequencies and different information on each variant frequency.

    The field of existence is just the self same as the planets with layers of variant frequencies, and an external diameter out to the ionosphere.

    Your personal field of such is central to Your immune system as it is all about magnetics and resonance.

    The earths field is interactive with all other fields within it, and the fear currently is thus having it's effects on the planets field which in turn is symbiotic to all fields within it, love will raise and expand the field .


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    Post by dan Sun Aug 15, 2021 2:31 pm

    2230z……..

    Chivo,

    Our sitting around the campfire singing cumbayah would be wonderful, but, at present, we’re not heading that way, in case you hadn’t noticed.  

    There is a corner that will have to be turned.  

    Chivo is a man without a plan for turning the Corner.  

    Since he doesn’t have his own plan, he can think of nothing better than to belittle and otherwise denigrate the only person who does have a plan.  


    0130…….

    chick 🐣 has the best possible vision for the future.  

    Yes, this is the vision of the bridge from here to Eternity.  

    I invite any who would like to compare visions to step right up.



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    Post by U Sun Aug 15, 2021 6:26 pm

    Who wants to control the bridge FTD?
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    Post by GSB Mon Aug 16, 2021 7:45 am

    Yes, this is the vision of the bridge from here to Eternity. I invite any who would like to compare visions to step right up.

    "Meet me on the bridge ..."



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    Post by hobbit Mon Aug 16, 2021 8:04 am

    Dan are You wanting to reach nirvana?
    Is this Your bridge to eternity?
    No more been re born?




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