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Who's Disclosure is Disclosure?

Sun Apr 14, 2019 2:16 am by Cyrellys

The narrative war is in full swing. When there's a 100 different competing narratives, how is it possible to discern a disclosure?

Is it akin to which truth is Truth?




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Post by dan Sun Jun 20, 2021 8:37 am

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Post by aaron Tue Aug 17, 2021 6:53 pm

Zen/Tao can’t be conceptualized as either negative or positive.

It’s direct perception via short circuiting the mind.

It’s a direct pointing to the mind.

Spontaneous and purposeless

A bit smelly at times and playful at others.

The smellyness is playful at heart.

It can only be known by not known.

Doing what comes natural in the moment.

No plans or missions.

You wouldn’t understand it, so don’t bother trying. Wink

One of my favorite Koans goes like this.

“A certain master called Bǎizhàng, who was so good that he had hundreds of students, and they couldn’t all be housed in one monastery. So he had to find one of the students who could also be a master. And so he arranged a test. He put down a pitcher in front of them all and said, "Without making an assertion, or without making a denial, tell me what is this?" And the senior monk said, 'It couldn’t be called a piece of wood.' And the teacher didn’t accept this answer. But the monastery cook came forward and kicked the pitcher over and walked away, and he got the job”

Zen offers a sudden insight into the nature being.

See?

It’s like a joke, if it has to be explained then you’ve already missed the point entirely.


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Post by smelly da goat Tue Aug 17, 2021 8:26 pm

dan wrote:And Zen refuses to recognize that history is not an illusion.  

Zen denigrates history.

History is our punishment for our attachment to the world.  

Love plays no role in Zen.

Zen denigrates any Creator and any Creation.  

Zen has no clue about Agape.  

Zen is basically a negative/escapist philosophy.  

Zen is all about Sunyatta and Anatta.  

In Buddhism, everything has a negative reason.

In Christianity, everything has a positive reason.  



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It is direct naked realization.

Get some.

Your words are not true, when have your words ever been true?

Never really.

There was one christian if he lived.

You ain’t him.

The rest of you are pretenders under a false flag.

A lie.

A dream.

Farts.

Phantoms.

Empty egos.

Muppets.

You are no Zennist.

And you miss its subtlety.

That’s cool.

Keep deceiving yourself.



Zennists are one.

Your thoughts are an alien contagion.

We spit you out of our mouth.

You are bitter.

You missed the boat Dan.

Do you have the courage to admit you are wrong?

That you have totally deceived yourself?

Are you ready to set aside your life’s work?

You have a chance to know your mind.

Take it.

I’ll turn the boat 🛶  around and come back for you.

Back to Plato’s Rave…

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Post by aaron Tue Aug 17, 2021 8:52 pm

I don’t get the spit it out bitterness however.

More like marmalade.
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Post by smelly da goat Wed Aug 18, 2021 12:06 am

Ray Bradbury’s statement about the secret of the Martian way of life, for your consideration. The Martian says:

“Secret …. There is no secret. Anyone with eyes can see the way to live …. By watching life, observing nature, and cooperating with it. Making common cause with the process of existence ….

By living life for itself, don’t you see? Deriving pleasure from the gift of pure being .…

Life is its own answer. Accept it and enjoy it day by day. Live as well as possible. Expect no more. Destroy nothing, humble nothing, look for fault in nothing. Leave unsullied and untouched all that is beautiful.

Hold that which lives in all reverence. For life is given by the sovereign of our universe; given to be savored, to be luxuriated in, to be respected.

But that’s no secret. You’re intelligent. You know as well as I what has to be done.”

I suppose some people might take the Martian’s words as an environmental manifesto. But the aspect I want to focus on is our need to “stop and smell the roses,” and take time out of our busy days to enjoy or appreciate the beauty of life.

You know what to do.

No one needs to tell you really.

Maybe we just remind each other from time to time when we stumble, that we know within ourselves what to do, trust yourself.

That’s all I ever told Aaron or anyone else.

If anyone tries to tell you different, they lie.

You could never disclose anything more true or beautiful than this.

Which is why I know Disclosure muppets are pretenders.

But they won’t see it.

Still, I’ll try to remind them from time to time.

I have a soft spot for kooks and loons and outsiders and hobbits and smelly goats.

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Post by hobbit Wed Aug 18, 2021 5:51 am



I am a product of this planet, it is My mother and father , peace to one and all, I sense the planet is reacting , can YOU feel it?

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Post by Foot Mann Wed Aug 18, 2021 6:56 am

Satan's son continues to mention Christianity while promoting evil and denigrating Joseph P. Firmage, the true prophet. My mission is complete. This morning I return home. My the next Foot step up.
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Post by hobbit Wed Aug 18, 2021 8:28 am



Graham Hancock from two years ago relaying the words of Thoth.

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Post by dan Wed Aug 18, 2021 9:11 am

I hold nothing against Zen.  

Zen provides a refuge from the rat race of modernity.  

In these latter days, the flow of global events turns frightening.  

Zen provides a harbor from the gathering storm.  

Eschatology is certainly not for everyone.  

Few will benefit from the knowledge of the Eschaton.  

Shooting the messenger, however, will not make the Eschaton go away.



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Post by smelly da goat Wed Aug 18, 2021 1:57 pm

Foot Mann wrote:Satan's son continues to mention Christianity while promoting evil and denigrating Joseph P. Firmage, the true prophet. My mission is complete. This morning I return home. My the next Foot step up.

Satan is much more interesting than you, muppet!

You are the evil.

You are deceived.

You are filled with doubt.

You sew doubt.

Evil.

Stop deceiving yourself and others.

There are no missions you delusional ghost.
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Post by smelly da goat Wed Aug 18, 2021 1:59 pm

dan wrote:I hold nothing against Zen.  

Zen provides a refuge from the rat race of modernity.  

In these latter days, the flow of global events turns frightening.  

Zen provides a harbor from the gathering storm.  

Eschatology is certainly not for everyone.  

Few will benefit from the knowledge of the Eschaton.  

Shooting the messenger, however, will not make the Eschaton go away.  



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Awww

Too bad.

I want to root Eschatology out of the human mind.
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Post by dan Wed Aug 18, 2021 2:33 pm

Foot#3,  

Thank you for stopping by.  

Don’t let the smelly Chivo intimidate you from your appointed rounds.

I cannot prove that Joe is not a prophet.  

One thing that I know is that Joe Firmage is not a philosopher.

He is certainly not familiar with the the issues of ontology.  

It would be very interesting to know how Joe’s team relates to the Princess’ team.  

I know only some of the superficial connections.  

I would be suspicious, however, of people who sent me into a battle with a minimal knowledge of the battlefield, especially with the background of high school student.  



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Post by smelly da goat Wed Aug 18, 2021 3:19 pm

dan wrote:Foot#3,  

Thank you for stopping by.  

Don’t let the smelly Chivo intimidate you from your appointed rounds.

I cannot prove that Joe is not a prophet.  

One thing that I know that Joe Firmage is not is philosopher.

He is certainly not familiar with the the issues of ontology.  

It would be very interesting to know how Joe’s team relates to the Princess’ team.  

I know only some of the superficial connections.  

I would be suspicious 🤨 of people who sent me into a battle with a minimal knowledge of the battlefield, especially with the background of high school student.  



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You should doubt yourself Foot3.

You should assume you are deceived and deceiving others.

Prophets don't tell the future, they tell the people to get back on track.

They see the infection and reach out to the people with a cure.

Joe is not a prophet.

Smelly goat is, but he will never ever work for or with you.

We don't work for muppets.

If you can't get by me, you can't reach anyone else.

And I assure you, you can't get by me Wink

Help yourselves and abandon your work.

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Post by GSB Wed Aug 18, 2021 8:58 pm

BEST POSSIBLE WORLD: The End



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Post by dan Thu Aug 19, 2021 8:09 am

1410z……….

Chivo,

Thank you for being so candid with us…… you wish to root eschatology out of the human mind.

One might suppose that the Eschaton is another manifestation of the Wetiko mind virus 🦠……. pure evil 👿 in all its manifestations.  

This eschatological version of this virus is endemic to the prophetic tradition.  

Most mystical traditions have managed to stamp it out.  

Even in its home in the West, it is being stamped out by modernism.  

The exceedingly small audience at BPW/OMF should indicate that Chivo’s fears are misplaced.  

Why not just ignore it, and allow it to continue its natural decline, along with the many other superstitions of the Dark Ages?  

The only possible cloud on the horizon of our salvation from superstition and ignorance is the possible faltering of modernism itself.

However, rumors of the death of modernism are likely to be premature, at best.  


1610………

Yet, modernism, for all its scientific pretenses is based on a mystery.  

It is based on the mystery of progress.  

The notion of progress has become so familiar to us that we suppose it to be natural.  

This supposition led into the dark recesses of social Darwinism, Marxism and Nazism.  

The intelligentsia eventually turned against the idea of Progress and modernism itself, leading us into the brave new world of postmodernism.



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Post by smelly da goat Thu Aug 19, 2021 10:45 am

For natural processes, progress is change and adapt as needed.

Progress is not change and adapt.

Stoicism is more accept change and adapt.

Progress is corrupting and killing us.

We are not just the body.

Materialists are dead wrong there.

All we know is consciousness, otherwise, we would just be the body and not aware of it.

When I communicate with a person, I am connecting to all other persons.

When I know myself, I know all selves.

Out here, in the wilds, we are a small crew on a boat.

We bicker and fight sometimes.

Do I believe spooks are about.

Not really.

I think we are all having our fun.

Having fun?

I think it’s fun to live in the darkest time of human mind.

Materialism is boring.

Modern, post-modern, phooey.

Right, left, phooey.

But let me say.

Having fun, I tripped over something.

I AM here being.

All the other words seemed to just float away after that.

I’m no good for anyone else really.

But if I may suggest.

Knowing your own mind can really open some previously hidden things up.

It makes modernity seem silly, stupid and powerless.

Progress seems to me to be running away, not toward.

When you know your words are dried crap 💩 you begin to realize.

This limited form of online communication is not conducive to friendship.

Life is about friendship to me.

The mystical are blockheads.

Life has mystical aspects.

But it’s pretty clear who we are.

It’s pretty clear how to live.

It’s pretty clear what to do when you settle down and look 👀 around.

Relax and have fun and be ready to act and do what needs to be done.


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Post by jofo Thu Aug 19, 2021 12:30 pm

Foot Mann wrote:Satan's son continues to mention Christianity while promoting evil and denigrating Joseph P. Firmage, the true prophet. My mission is complete. This morning I return home. My the next Foot step up.

can one volunteer to become Foot4?

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Post by smelly da goat Thu Aug 19, 2021 3:23 pm

jofo wrote:
Foot Mann wrote:Satan's son continues to mention Christianity while promoting evil and denigrating Joseph P. Firmage, the true prophet. My mission is complete. This morning I return home. My the next Foot step up.

can one volunteer to become Foot4?

Bahahahaha

I wonder if there is a retirement plan.

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Post by aaron Thu Aug 19, 2021 3:55 pm

Lmao

That’s a good one.

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Post by Foot Mann Thu Aug 19, 2021 4:08 pm

There have been many left feet, all "volunteers," and there is no volunteer process or retirement benefits. Finding someone willing to read this Loon Blog is not easy, let alone someone willing to Blog.

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Post by dan Thu Aug 19, 2021 4:15 pm

Jofo,

I was told that Foot3 was a high school student.  

I don’t know what, if any, are the other requirements.  

There may be at least three teams at this point.  

Joe F seems to have his own team, besides being closely involved with Ron.  

Skinwalker ranch provides an arena where there may also be an overlap between teams.  

I believe that Hal Puthoff&Co is still actively involved in some of these proceedings.  

It sounds as though the Foot* recruitment is very loosely coordinated between, at least, these three groups.



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Post by Foot Mann Thu Aug 19, 2021 4:48 pm

The Chicken cannot tell the truth. There was never association of the most recent left foot with being Foot3. The Chicken just fabricates as he pecks along. No sane person wants to volunteer to Blog on a Liar Loon Blog.
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Post by smelly da goat Thu Aug 19, 2021 6:00 pm

Foot Mann wrote:There have been many left feet, all "volunteers," and there is no volunteer process or retirement benefits. Finding someone willing to read this Loon Blog is not easy, let alone someone willing to Blog.

Haha. Maybe I would like all you left feet 👣 over a beer, I dunno.

The ones who should be here are.

Don’t read the loon blog, become a loon and howl at the moon and you will have better results perhaps.

There is gold here for those with eyes to see and noses to smell it.

It may not go as planned.

I am just anti-disclosure and plans, so no one passionate about those things would like me much.

Their loss.

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