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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Tue Feb 02, 2021 5:02 am

    First topic message reminder :

    We really shouldn’t forget the old mnemonic postings....... https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t236p425-hello-cy-omf-ii-part-2  

    Here’s a partial glossary for the mnemonics....... https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t251p700-hello-cy-omf-ii-part-2 .... scroll down.....

    Don’t forget other topics pages.......  

    https://bestpossibleworld.com/index06.htm

    https://bestpossibleworld.com/aAquarium/content.html

    https://best-possible.fandom.com/wiki/Best_Possible_Wiki


    Here’s more mnemonics...... https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t236p425-hello-cy-omf-ii-part-2

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:32 pm

    So, to the powers of the sky...

    Yuh know you can only face us.

    Only being authentic will anything be accomplished.

    Truthfully, it’s already done.

    So if someone is not kicking back, and acting from ease, I wonder if they are even human.

    People with a mission piss me off.

    I will poop on them as Diogenes would.

    I really only respect one kind of Philosopher, the one who lives in the street.

    The rest are pretending.

    Including the smelly goat.

    Smelly is my Diogenes impersonation.

    I used to be much nastier.

    But I wanted to keep talking to Dan, so I couldn’t be as nasty as I wanted to be.
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    Post by U Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:13 pm

    Smelly El Chivo wrote:So, to the powers of the sky...

    Yuh know you can only face us.

    But we made you/U
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:20 pm

    I just had a little chat with Dan.

    It was interesting.

    The best part was what I said at the end Wink

    Dan said truth makes you impervious to lies.

    I disagreed.

    Stopping your lying is what makes you impervious to lies.

    The truth is all there is.

    There truth is there is only love.

    It fills the low spaces.

    Dan doesn’t get me still.

    I don’t doubt the truth, only muppet interpretations of it.

    This is the time when I was meant to know and say this.

    I told Dan the truth tonight.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:22 pm

    I’ve told everyone the truth.

    Then the book of love opened up.

    And god took my broken wings.

    And let me in.

    And showed me how to fly.

    And then the gods turned me into a flying 🐐 and said go back and fly among them that they can see what they can be.

    And I said, they don’t want to be flying goats.

    And the gods said, oh yah?!

    If you have accepted you have to live for a lie.

    To protect yourself or your loved ones.

    You are doing them all the greatest harm.

    I’m here to tell you that is the Big Lie and why you are a stranger to love.

    But my friends, the book of love can open up and let you in.

    Then you only have joy.

    The tears 😭 end then.

    Then the sky opens and fills you with the light of 1000 suns.

    You call me a fool.

    A 🐐 with no faith.

    And I laugh at it.

    It is you who clings to your faith in illusions that is holding back the love in your life.

    It breaks in now and then.

    But you can live there.

    It can flood your life.

    Call me a fool.

    But I am no liar.

    I am done with lies and only then did the book of love open to me.

    A blues clue.



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    Post by Foresaperire Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:29 pm

    Evening Meditation: Marguerite Porete (13th century – 1 June 1310) was a French-speaking mystic and the author of The Mirror of Simple Souls, a work of Christian mysticism dealing with the workings of agape (divine love). She was burnt at the stake for heresy in Paris in 1310 after a lengthy trial, refusing to remove her book from circulation or recant her views. It was reported in a chronicle that the crowd was moved to tears by the calmness of how she faced her end.

    Porete's life is recorded only in accounts of her trial for heresy, at which she was condemned to be burnt at the stake. Porete's biography is probably biased and certainly incomplete. She was said to come from the County of Hainaut, a French-speaking principality in the Holy Roman Empire, though this is uncertain. Her high level of education means she is likely to have had upper-class origins. She is associated with the beguine movement and was therefore able to travel fairly freely.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:44 pm

    It is my weakness that makes me most strong.

    God says a life well lived is your best worship.

    There are many saints flying about.

    Join in maybe.

    You want to worship god, live with no lie in the age of the Big Lie.

    This ain’t for wimps or spooks.


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    Post by U Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:48 pm

    I thought you didn't believe in God
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:49 pm

    I don’t Wink

    I know.

    Mythopoetic moment.

    They happen.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:57 pm

    This world is a big fat lie.

    But you are not.

    Don’t take help from strangers.

    Help yourself.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:02 pm

    Foresaperire wrote:Evening Meditation: Marguerite Porete (13th century – 1 June 1310) was a French-speaking mystic and the author of The Mirror of Simple Souls, a work of Christian mysticism dealing with the workings of agape (divine love). She was burnt at the stake for heresy in Paris in 1310 after a lengthy trial, refusing to remove her book from circulation or recant her views. It was reported in a chronicle that the crowd was moved to tears by the calmness of how she faced her end.

    Porete's life is recorded only in accounts of her trial for heresy, at which she was condemned to be burnt at the stake. Porete's biography is probably biased and certainly incomplete. She was said to come from the County of Hainaut, a French-speaking principality in the Holy Roman Empire, though this is uncertain. Her high level of education means she is likely to have had upper-class origins. She is associated with the beguine movement and was therefore able to travel fairly freely.




    Why read about the mystical when you can live it?

    That’s my meditation.

    It is immediate and present and now.

    Signs and wonders are for the sheeple.

    Open the doors.

    There are no peoples.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:29 pm

    I got it Dan!

    I have the greatest doubt!

    And I have the greatest faith!

    Ha!

    The dude is abraxas the terrible.

    Be thankful for the dude and that you don’t have his grouchy sister.



    I kid you not.

    Just like that, abraxas winks back.

    Wow.

    See my new avatar.

    Zoom in now.

    It’s a message from god to muppets everywhere.

    I had just texted to Dan, what does it all even matter in the end and opened Reddit and this was the post showing.

    What does it matter in the end I asked.

    Nothing said...

    Nothing even mattress!

    Bahahahahahahahaha

    Dan and I are seriously entangled.

    Our wives might get jealous.

    It really is nothing.

    But that’s not your muppet nothing.
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    Post by dan Sat Feb 13, 2021 8:33 am

    1530z.......

    Time is an illusion.  

    Pain is an illusion.  

    However, in the moment, pain is the most real thing that there is.  

    As a metaphysician, I am here to heal pain.  

    Our republic is in pain.

    The ‘deplorables’ are in pain....... and threatening to spread the pain..... through continuing insurrections.  

    The Republicans are attempting to channel that pain into political power.  They are holding out the hope of a political solution.  

    Both parties are holding out the hope of an external solution.  

    If we are heading into a paradigm shift, the answers are within.  

    The expectation of a paradigm shift is the expectation of news 📰 from Nowhere...... from out of the blue.  

    The job of politicians is keep us distracted with their circus 🎪.  

    The only alternative to the circus is Disclosure.  

    Nobody, but nobody...... wants disclosure of the Eschaton.  

    Folks are perfectly willing to let the Circus 🎪 play on...... if they sense the alternative.  

    Ok, we’re gonna have circuses.  

    Which is the best possible circus?  

    My humble, chicken little 🐥, opinion is that the best circus is the one we’ve got........
    Let's hang on to what we've got
    Don't let go, girl, we've got a lot
    Got a lot of love between us
    Hang on, hang on, hang onto what we've got
    Let’s keep the circus on the highest, most visible speck of ground on the Earth.  

    Are we going to litigate the ‘deplorables’ to death?  

    We are going to litigate Satan to death.  

    Then we call in the Angels to celebrate 🎉.  

    This is a death match over the Truth.  


    1710.........

    And what is the Truth...... as was famously asked?

    We 🐥 want this trial to continue until we are ready to call in ☎ the Angels.    

    The Truth is personal.  We want to see people start testifying.  

    Will this bring us any closer to the Truth?  

    Every day we get closer to the Revelation......... no matter what.  

    All of this circus has been choreographed...... in Eternity.  

    How long can we spend on one Article?  

    Will we get into the conspiracy theories?  

    Will we investigate Q?  


    1810........

    Can the truth be litigated?  

    It can be litigated, but that will only open the gates.  

    It will resolve nothing.  

    Do these gates lead to portals?  Yes, ultimately.  


    1830........

    Jaime Beutler will not be called.  

    That was a close call.  

    Ok, now these cases may be pursued in committee.  

    That sounds better than on the floor of the Senate.  

    Will there be a Q committee and a portal committee?  

    I suspect that the Democrats will be sorely tempted to chase those rabbits 🐇.  

    There will be a desire to close the portal through which donny emerged.  

    There will be questions about the CIA involvement in Presidential politics.  

    That is a no-no.


    2130..........

    I’m listening to Mitch McConnell speaking on the floor after the vote.......

    After roundly condemning the actions of the former President, he is explaining his vote of not guilty as being on a technicality.

    He is emphasizing that Trump may still be held accountable for every criminal action while in office.  



    (cont........)


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Feb 13, 2021 10:03 am

    So the thing about DMT. They are finding it is made all over the human body.

    We could be the 3D projections from 5D or 4D beings.

    Or they could be our projections.

    I’m getting more suspicious.

    I think the images you see are from across the boundary.

    I like this world best.

    This body is for this.

    I think people way over do things.

    It’s ok.

    All of that showed me we can relax.

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    Post by Foresaperire Sat Feb 13, 2021 12:16 pm



    We can choose to have our head in the sand or participate.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Feb 13, 2021 10:25 pm

    Everyone has no choice but to participate if they are here.

    They can take the quick way out or wait for death to settle it.
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    Post by Foresaperire Sat Feb 13, 2021 10:35 pm

    There is the anti-Q which we currently saw and experienced in the current framework and the real Q which is described in this video.  Truth will be revealed in this new Q[uantum] framework...it is a matter of function and does not require a siege on the Capital.  The current Q is blasphemous. The true Q will usher in a new enlightenment and renaissance in all aspects of society.


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Feb 13, 2021 10:40 pm

    There is no Q with any Truth.

    There is nothing to reveal.

    There is only the ceasing of lying.

    The only thing that will bring enlightenment is each living their best.

    No one is bringing anything.

    It all cycles, winter into spring.

    Nothing even mattress.
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    Post by dan Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:45 am

    1445z.........

    Poor donny,

    He has but one legacy......... he brought us the deep state...... bless his heart I love you.  

    donny was our postmodern Prometheus.

    I think is was Robert Anton Wilson who observed that those who most resist the deep state are most likely to get caught up in it, eg. the Q fans.  

    donny exploited that situation by playing both sides of the conspiracy street.  

    It’s all about managing the magic.  

    Concern about the deep state definitely tracks with identity politics.  

    The deep state is often associated with globalism.  

    The humanists have definitely bought into globalism.  

    How could they not?  

    Humanists and personalists are agonistes.  

    It is unhealthy to either obsess with or ignore the deep state....... it will get you either way.  

    This is the fate of the humanists.  They make themselves a tool of the deep state.  


    1530...........

    So what is the deep state?

    It is the Monad.  

    Get over it...... get used to it.  

    As we are sucked beyond the event horizon of the Monad, our ability to maintain democracy will be our measure of success.  

    As we glide along its tractor beam, the great Attractor in the sky sounds rather impersonal.  

    I’m just here to tell you to not let the appearances deceive you, as we are sucked into its gaping maw.  

    little chick 🐥 is a trinitarian, you might recall, and a jesus freak, to boot.  

    Yes, we are headed over Niagara Falls in a Tippecanoe...... just don’t look down...... too frequently.  

    If everything else fails, you can always just listen to Smelly 🐐💨.  

    So much for Disclosure.  

    So what else is new?  

    All you have to do is keep googling along....... with the bouncing rubber ball....... qanon&ufo........
    I should have known
    You'd bid me farewell
    There's a lesson to be learned from this
    And I learned it very well
    Now I know you're not the only starfish in the sea
    If I never hear your name again
    It's all the same to me
    And I think,
    It's gonna be alright
    Yeah,
    The worst is over now
    The mornin' sun is shining
    Like a red rubber ball
    ..........

    The story's in the past
    With nothing to recall
    I've got my life to live
    And I don't need you at all
    The rollercoaster ride we took
    Is nearly at an end
    I bought my ticket with my tears
    That's all I'm gonna spend
    And I think,
    It's gonna be alright
    Yeah,
    The worst is over now
    The mornin' sun is shining
    Like a red rubber ball

    Speaking of which, we are already off and running........ https://www.nytimes.com/article/what-is-qanon.html (Feb 4) .....
    QAnon Anonymous, a podcast about the QAnon movement, calls QAnon a “big tent conspiracy theory” because it is constantly evolving and adding new features and claims. But the existence of a global pedophile cabal is the core tenet of QAnon, and the one that most, if not all, of its followers believe.
    You just gotta love it.  

    Yes, ladies and gentlemen....... the great Attractor in the sky 🌌 is definitely coming after your babies......
    And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!


    2140..........

    There’s just one thing holding us back from Disclosure...... it’s the us and them mindset.  

    It is so tribal....... so much into the original participation..... we are barely to be blamed.    

    This is not something we can overcome without significant portal input.  

    But we’re not talking a global kumbaya.........
    I'd like to teach the world to sing
    In perfect harmony
    I'd like to hold it in my arms
    And keep it company
    we just talking....... letting a piece of the sky fall.  

    What is the very least amount of sky....... just to make us pause.....
    I think it's time we stop
    Children, what's that sound?
    Everybody look, what's going down?
    What might Q say?  
    Oh, let the sun beat down upon my face
    And stars fill my dream
    I'm a traveler of both time and space
    To be where I have been
    To sit with elders of the gentle race
    This world has seldom seen
    They talk of days for which they sit and wait
    All will be revealed
    With an eternity of wisdom behind it, this is all it might take.  


    0100.........

    Or there is this.......
    Yesterday a morning came, a smile upon your face
    Caesar's palace, morning glory, silly human, silly human race,
    On a sailing ship to nowhere, leaving any place,
    If the summer change to winter, yours is no,
    Yours is no disgrace
    Yours is no disgrace
    Yours is no disgrace

    Or this.......
    I awoke this morning
    Love laid me down by the river
    Drifting I turned on up stream
    Bound for my forgiver
    In the giving of my eyes to see your face
    Sound did silence me
    Leaving no trace
    I begged to leave, to hear your wonderous stories
    Begged to hear your wonderous stories


    Cold summer listening
    Hot colour melting the anger to stone
    I still remember the dream there
    I still remember the time you said goodbye
    Did we really tell lies
    Letting in the sunshine
    Did we really count to one hundred

    Can you picture what will be
    So limitless and free
    Desperately in need of
    some strangers hand
    In a desperate land




    (cont.......)


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:03 am

    There is a new grey group.

    The Rationalists.

    Not blue or red.

    The smart muppets.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/13/technology/slate-star-codex-rationalists.html

    They aren’t coming for your guns, they are coming for your religion.

    Jack and others I have followed, have followed blog Star Codex for years.

    I have too, run by a psychiatrist who is becoming like Jordan Peterson.

    Another portal where psyche is erupting.

    It’s a watering hole for Silicon Valley.

    The cream of the crop.

    Found this thread yesterday below.

    You want a brave new world?

    To save it, wearing monitoring dog tags may be our future.

    China is the trial country with facial recognition etc.

    The right would never accept tagging.

    It has to be done covertly.

    You need a deep state to run it all.

    https://aeon.co/essays/none-of-our-technologies-has-managed-to-destroy-humanity-yet

    The new Rationalists will let a trump exist.

    The Grey is tinged with racism, possible hints that genetics make some more intelligent.

    And now we have environmental collapse, AI, genetics, Nazis, the Quantum and the Great Reset all breathing down our neck.

    You gotta admit, there is a lot in motion.

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    Post by Foresaperire Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:46 am

    Update: https://slatestarcodex.com
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:15 pm

    His old blog has an archive up.

    https://slatestarcodex.com/archives/

    His new blog.

    https://astralcodexten.substack.com/

    I think he quit his job and Peter Thiel is paying him now to push their rationalist stuff.

    He seems to be getting caught up in the whirlwind.

    That’s when people lose their mojo.

    They get delusions of grandeur or think they can fix it all.

    Anyone looking into these OMF topics should be following this rabbit.

    I can’t see it leads anywhere else besides the greatest doubt and the greatest faith.
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    Post by U Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:27 pm

    What's going to happen to the babies "in those days" Dan?
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    Post by dan Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:35 pm

    We might just heed the Bible and have fewer of them.  

    That is already happening, for sure.

    I wouldn’t recommend going through a portal while bearing an infant.

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    Post by U Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:46 pm

    You've mentioned that before and it's always been odd to me. Would the effects of portal travel be quite negative for toddlers, babies and pregnant women?
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    Post by dan Sun Feb 14, 2021 6:14 pm

    I think we’ll have more than enough trouble looking after ourselves.

    I imagine that a portal excursion is meant for mature audiences.

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