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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Tue Feb 02, 2021 5:02 am

    First topic message reminder :

    We really shouldn’t forget the old mnemonic postings....... https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t236p425-hello-cy-omf-ii-part-2  

    Here’s a partial glossary for the mnemonics....... https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t251p700-hello-cy-omf-ii-part-2 .... scroll down.....

    Don’t forget other topics pages.......  

    https://bestpossibleworld.com/index06.htm

    https://bestpossibleworld.com/aAquarium/content.html

    https://best-possible.fandom.com/wiki/Best_Possible_Wiki


    Here’s more mnemonics...... https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t236p425-hello-cy-omf-ii-part-2

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:13 pm

    Almost all the women in the Ayahuasca group awhile I drank the tea with, drank while pregnant.

    You never went through a portal until you drink the tea.

    You never met kids like that.

    “Words that do not match deeds are unimportant.” —Che Guevara
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    Post by dan Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:19 pm

    Don’t let chick 🐥 slow anyone down.

    3.5 has no problems.
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    Post by dan Mon Feb 15, 2021 8:17 am

    With donny, temporarily at least, sidelined, it might be timely to re-examine the perennial us-them issues..........

    Yesterday, I suggested that these issues were the main impediment to Disclosure.  

    It is a liberal shibboleth that diversity is good.

    Not so much with conservatives.

    If this is meant to be a challenge, what is the challenge?  

    For starters, if diversity is good, then homogeneity is not the goal.  

    Viva la difference?  

    But isn’t love the great equalizer?  

    Love demands tolerance.  Love erodes the superficial...... it usually  manages to do so between the sexes, after all.  

    It’s complicated.  

    The best possible world is not a cakewalk, is it?  

    Integration is a harbinger to all of the above........ resistance ensues.

    But here’s my bottom line........ if we give love a chance, love will conquer all.



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    Post by hobbit Mon Feb 15, 2021 8:50 am

    "US THEM"

    This trailer seems to be exactly what is taking place right now???




    Who or what is "them"?

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    Post by dan Mon Feb 15, 2021 9:05 am

    hobbit,

    Them........?

    Them is just a bit of a portmanteau.  

    It tends to be rather subjective.  

    And, yes, it is time sensitive.  

    We have been watching democracy tending toward populism, and populism tending toward identity politics....... back toward our original/tribal participation.  

    On the road to Disclosure, this is our global sticking point.  

    Yes, the liberals definitely pushed globalism....... a globalism favoring the elite.  

    Us, plebes, were hardly consulted.  This was global conglomerates on a rampage.

    Predatory capitalism unchained.

    Brexit/populism is the showpiece of a response.  



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    Post by hobbit Mon Feb 15, 2021 9:24 am

    Them.
    The
    hem

    The edge?

    Cliff ledge?



    This should be Your theme song.


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    Post by dan Mon Feb 15, 2021 9:31 am

    The edge.......?

    Them is always beyond the pale.

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    Post by hobbit Mon Feb 15, 2021 9:40 am

    dan wrote:The edge.......?

    Them is always beyond the pale.  


    Pale was a region of Ireland, and there are no snakes in Ireland.

    Therefore THEM are snakes?

    Just what good old Trump was trying to clear out dem swamps?

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    Post by dan Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:22 am

    1720z........

    Well, hobbit,

    That is a bit of a stretch, but chick 🐥 is not one to cast aspersions on that score.  

    donny’s mission to Earth was to awaken the liberals from their sleepwalk of materialism.  

    In the process, he did push the tribal buttons.  

    With donny out of the way, we are moving toward a big tent conspiracy theory.  

    We are zeroing in on Robert Anton Wilson’s cosmic trigger...... reality is the sum total of all conspiracies ever imagined.  

    The main step toward the big tent 🎪 is to amalgamate Q with ufos 🛸.  

    Q had been nearly silent on that score, but here we are with Cyrellys bridging that gap since before the beginning.  

    Why the silence?  

    I suspect it might have something to do with foot 🦶’s involvement...... he didn’t want to give away the Crown Jewel 💎 especially not with the Princess 👸 on board.  It was getting a little too close to home.  

    Others are now filling that gap.  

    Folks will be suspecting that the Q game was rigged, right along with everything else, of course.  

    Rigged....... in favor of what?  Hmmm 🤔........


    1800.........

    If that were the case, the radio 📻 silence is not out of embarrassment.

    It has to do with a new protocol....... we have another layer of the onion.



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    Post by hobbit Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:04 am

    Snakes.

    St Patrick ( a roman) is said to have cleared Ireland of the snakes.
    The romans murdered the druids.
    The druids worshipped the immaterial world of serpents.

    The romans INVENTED christianity.

    Divide et impera.

    I am big friends along with My uncle fibonacci of serpent like flows.

    It's easy to invent a religion, there's a new one called covid now.

    But they will need to murder the non believers to set in stone the new religion.

    The serpents are consciousness flowing along the fibonacci matrix of multi dimensional universe.

    Reality can be whatever the combined accumulations of consciousness so want it to be, get enough of them to BELIEVE anything, and so it will be.

    The reason for social distancing is to keep the accumulations of consciousness apart so then cannot communicate to each other, then by controlling the information a new religion ( believers) can be created and controlled.

    THEM are the controllers of this false reality.

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    Post by Foresaperire Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:06 am

    "One word frees us of all the weight and pain of life. That word is love." - Sophocles
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    Post by Foresaperire Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:08 am

    COVID is not a new religion - it is a function to bring a new framework for humanity which may or may not include religion as we know and understand it currently.
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    Post by dan Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:17 am

    Every piece of news from Earth is fake news.  

    The only real news is from....... Nowhere.  


    Is COVID a religion......?  

    Reality is a religion....... as hobbit points out.

    It is the Church of the SubGenius....... if you will.  That was Bob, I believe........ a salesman from the ‘50’s.  

    Bob is going to free us from slave ship 🚢 Earth.

    This will be our Exodus....... now we are homeward bound.  

    Our Exodus will last for the best possible amount of time....... probably not to exceed a thousand years.  

    We await the cosmic trigger.  Q was the warm up.  

    chick 🐥 is already standing out on the hill....... eyes 👀 on the sky 🌌!  

    I do sort of wonder what Kieth K is up to, with Wired.  

    Up to any good?  


    In the meantime, we have us and them to sort out.......

    It’s complicated........ more complicated than we can possibly imagine.  

    Diversity is God’s pivot...... give me a fulcrum and I’ll move the world 🌎.  

    There is a great deal of tension stored in that fulcrum.  

    That pivot is spring loaded....... as being essential to the cosmic trigger

    The MoAPS is to turn the world upside down and inside out.  

    The Banach theorem tells us that every identity mapping must have a fixed point.  

    That fixed point is chick 🐥’s definition of God.  

    I always knew that I was supposed to be as near to ground zero as possible.  

    We aim to please...... you aim too, please.  

    Yes, sports fans, the first shall be last, and the last shall be first.

    And suffer the children.......



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:16 pm

    Foresaperire wrote:"One word frees us of all the weight and pain of life.  That word is love." - Sophocles

    Words mean nothing ultimately.

    What we do is what we are.

    Final participation.

    No one can speak the truth.

    Ignore all who claim such.

    Q and all pretenders are hilariously stupid.

    It is cruel how stupid the christian, the liberal, the rationalist, the proud boy are.

    They do desperately need a face, an identity, to counter the nihilism and absurdity.

    To be trapped in such small minds and empty hearts.

    It sounds like hell to me.

    Truly, they have nothing.

    Their gods are empty idols.

    They have made themselves into the greatest idol.

    Only in the crucible will any quality be found.

    They are confused lying morons and muppets thinking they can save themselves.

    Abandon all hope.

    The only way is to die.

    Let them all have fun with that.

    The snowflakes ❄ will quickly melt.

    They will die before they die or they won’t.

    Let me echo Owen Barfield and show you what to do with all your hope and idols and ideals.

    All of that shit will burn 🔥 nicely.

    They will make a strong piece of metal or a piece of 💩

    Know thy quality.

    That’s my update to ‘know thyself.’

    It will all burn.

    If I could see in on life after death, I’d love to blow my ashes away into the wind.

    In the end, it doesn’t really mattress.



    Take yourself apart.

    Burn it all down.

    Let me see the oil and soot on your hands and face.

    Let me see your empty hands.

    The rest is just wind.

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    Post by dan Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:40 pm

    Words mean nothing ultimately.

    As said by a man of very few words.

    https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/speech-acts/
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:45 pm

    My words are nothing and I know it.

    I am a barking dog.

    I am doing what a dog does.

    I am barking.

    I am like that GPT-3 AI

    We can chatter forever about nothing.

    The barking means nothing.

    What I do is all that matters now.

    Who I am when no one is looking is only known to being.

    The rest is just wind.

    The wind will have my ashes.

    The birds can eat my body and tongue.

    I hope I taste good.

    Here’s what we do with all the bullets.



    Can you handle that Eschaton little chick 🐥

    We don’t need better words and thoughts.

    We need better people.

    That only comes from intense heat.

    So I am good with melting this whole pile of slag down to basic metals.

    Start with yourself though and then see how far your revolution goes.

    This is some kind of wonderful.

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    Post by hobbit Mon Feb 15, 2021 1:18 pm

    All religions are man made belief based.

    Covid is the new religion where it is believed in, their saviour is a needle injection, they are begging for their saviour to save them from the devil that is said to be mutating .

    Covid is man made, show Me anything else in nature that has any such belief .

    The religion is sacrificing countless people here in the UK, all resources are been diverted to make the belief solid, all statistics are been skewered to create a fear based religion, as all religions are.

    The god covid is been utilised to destroy the present global setup, the economies and small businesses will be trashed to serve the new god.

    A more slave orientated system where useless eaters will be enabled to die and only the injected obidient slaves will be required.



    Velum to zer new wurld order , your unique implanted numbers vill be watched from zer satallites 24/7.

    Resistance vill be useless.

    All the deads graves who fought to stop this 75 years ago vill be zer glorious leaders new parklands.

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    Post by dan Mon Feb 15, 2021 1:25 pm

    Chivo,

    Ok, the Monad is the ultimate melting pot.  

    All experience is melted back into the Logos Spermatikos....... which impregnates the Abyss...... being the seed crystal to the supersaturated chaos of the Abyss.

    This has something to do with the metamorphosis of the chrysalis 🐛  =>> butterfly 🦋.


    hobbit,

    chick claims to have been responsible for the best possible virus 🦠, thanks to the Princess 👸.  

    I’d like to see you come up with a better one.  

    But a principal function was just to dispose of your messiah........ donny.

    And speaking of religion, what do you make of the Church of Donald?  

    But you might heed the words of Chivo, and attend more to the currents below the surface.  

    Being a nephew of Fibonacci, you ought to be able to dowse those currents, and not be distracted so much by appearances.  



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Feb 15, 2021 1:39 pm

    “You must unlearn what you have learned.” —Yoda



    Size matters not.

    Judge me by my smelly goat stink?!

    And well you should not.

    There is no try.

    If god does have the whole world in it, relax.

    If not, relax.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Feb 15, 2021 1:45 pm

    hobbit wrote:All religions are man made belief based.

    Covid is the new religion where it is believed in, their saviour is a needle injection, they are begging for their saviour to save them from the devil that is said to be mutating .

    Covid is man made, show Me anything else in nature that has any such belief .

    The religion is sacrificing countless people here in the UK, all resources are been diverted to make the belief solid, all statistics are been skewered to create a fear based religion, as all religions are.

    The god covid is been utilised to destroy the present global setup, the economies and small businesses will be trashed to serve the new god.

    A more slave orientated system where useless eaters will be enabled to die and only the injected obidient slaves will be required.



    Velum to zer new wurld order , your unique implanted numbers vill be watched from zer satallites 24/7.

    Resistance vill be useless.

    All the deads  graves who fought to stop this 75 years ago vill be zer glorious leaders new parklands.

    hobbit

    You have to look backwards to see it 5D

    COVID is the material side of a psychic manifestation.

    You cannot understand it from what is apparently happening.

    No one really understands this or can see it all.

    Each of us has more than enough bullshitz to keep ourselvez occupied.

    Do we not?

    We have to look out at the world and despair?

    That’s a delaying tactic of the pseudo ego.

    A distracting action.

    Psychology is not all worked out at all.

    But it does seem to be the source of all that we hold dear.

    So is it out there?

    Or really in here.

    That’s dualistic, but you have to start somewhere.

    I think the stoics can help one here and philosophical Taoism.

    You ultimately help yourself, when you look into the real source of all the trouble.

    Just our silly thinking.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Mon Feb 15, 2021 4:49 pm

    “Truth exists,” wrote Kierkegaard, “only as the individual himself produces it in action.”

    They are all on my side little chick.

    I went to the fire today and many friends showed up telling me this and that.

    But Kierkegaard was loudest.

    He said, you are onto it little goat, you tell them, it is in your actions I shall know thee.

    Put up or shut up.

    What are you producing in the world?

    What lives is only alive in our action.

    All of life is a repetition.
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    Post by hobbit Tue Feb 16, 2021 1:54 am

    Well chick and the princess must be very pleased with themselves.

    Trump is departed.

    But there's a few not so pleasant other consequences???????

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    Post by dan Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:41 am

    1540z........

    A slight correction for hobbit is that chick 🐥 and Princess 👸 are on opposite sides of any political fence.  

    That doesn’t preclude a level of cooperation.  


    The political questions remain........ whither Q&co....... whither foot 🦶&co?  

    There has been no communication on either account since before the riot.  

    Or I could ask...... whither MAGA?    

    I understand that Chivo is above all politics, so I do apologize in advance.  

    Isn’t eschatology above all politics?

    Yes and no.  

    If the Eschaton is inter-personal, then it is essentially political.  

    Understand, contra Chivo, that eschatology is my hobby (horse).

    Maybe my hobby should have been stamp collecting, but I got sidetracked.  

    Does not Chivo have a hobby?  

    When you retire, you need a hobby.  

    Anyway, be that as it may.  

    In this connection, I can’t help but wondering about Q&co..... particularly about conspiracy folks and Ufos.  

    Are they not much longer for this world?  

    The MSM would sure like to move on.  I’m not sure what hobbit and Chivo wish to do.  

    Perhaps they wish to contemplate the golden ratio.  

    I like a spectator sport, and I’m not so keen on football.  

    I’m a people watcher.  

    I’m also interested, like hobbit and Chivo, in the deeper currents.  

    But I don’t have the patience for navel gazing.  

    And I haven’t been able to locate Chivo’s campfire 🔥 in the sky 🌌.

    So I have to read Wikipedia...... and such.  

    Now that we’ve reached the end of the industrial 🏭 Revolution, the devil finds work for our idle hands....... hobbies.  

    I have a new hobby......... metaphysical trend spotter...... especially amongst the Q crowd.  Are they going back to sleep 😴?  

    I want to watch the Q crowd gazing at their navels....... reading their tea ☕ leaves 🍁.  

    Hey, sports fans, I’ve already read mine...... more than once.  

    Good Christians read the signs 🪧 of the times.

    They’re supposed to keep their lamps trimmed.  

    Who knows what might show up in the night?  


    1720........

    Here’s from Travis View of qanon Anonymous.......
    They come to their conclusion first," View says. "They decide what makes them feel best and then they construct conspiracy theories that help them convince themselves why that's true.
    That’s my kind of group.  

    Ok, show me where they’re going so I get out in front.

    There have been no q drops since December, and they have been thoroughly deplatformed....... but I heard that parler was back up.  

    Parler is back up, but you have to join, you can’t just browse.  I’m not a joiner.  

    I forgot that parler is controlled by Rebekah.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Feb 16, 2021 12:00 pm

    Not above politics, beneath it.

    Not concerned with tribes, you are all in my tribe.

    Bad Christian practice is to look outward judging and hoping others go to hell because they live in hell.

    Only a few look into reality.

    The rest make a world built on fear and hatred.

    They chose a mascot who hates humanity and himself.

    He is an Antichrist, a carnival barker, a con man.

    I love all like myself, best I can anyway.

    I treat others as I would want them to push me.

    I have many hobbies, one of which is writing here.

    We are experimenting with ways to make money from a small boutique farm.

    I want to retire and do my crafts and projects and farm, trying to grow gourmet fungi now. Learning a lot about fungi. Experimenting.

    Maybe soon.

    I prob only am going to work another 5-10 years if I can.

    I grow things, which is my fav.

    I love to get my hands in the dirt.

    I am committed to Philosophy as a way of life, it must be lived, not just debated in words.

    Al connected.

    I call this salon living.

    Tinker, build, share, support, experiment, optimize, repeat.

    My way is my own.

    But I encourage folks to engage the creative in their life.

    It seems to always help.

    Therapy or shadow work is always going on.

    Then just stay open and follow the rabbits rabbit

    Let me see if Q ever quotes and lives by Kant’s words, until then, they are lost.

    “Truth exists,” wrote Kierkegaard, “only as the individual himself produces it in action.”

    Q is too stupid to know what I mean.

    It is for moron muppetz.

    I’d steer all away from that nonsense.

    Each must wrestle and do their own work.

    We challenge each other, we argue, we try things, optimize , repeat.

    We live in the Academy.

    We hang out around the sages.

    We humble ourselves, even unto death.

    Straight on.


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    Post by hobbit Tue Feb 16, 2021 12:12 pm

    This is a message from the devil.

    Dans mate

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000s81w

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