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Post by dan Tue Feb 02, 2021 5:02 am

We really shouldn’t forget the old mnemonic postings....... https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t236p425-hello-cy-omf-ii-part-2  

Here’s a partial glossary for the mnemonics....... https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t251p700-hello-cy-omf-ii-part-2 .... scroll down.....

Don’t forget other topics pages.......  

https://bestpossibleworld.com/index06.htm

https://bestpossibleworld.com/aAquarium/content.html

https://best-possible.fandom.com/wiki/Best_Possible_Wiki


Here’s more mnemonics...... https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t236p425-hello-cy-omf-ii-part-2

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Post by dan Tue Feb 02, 2021 5:06 am

1200z.........

Ok, sports fans, let’s see if little chick 🐥 can get it right this time.....

Understand that little chick 🐥 and donny are partners in crime.  

We both wanted to own the world, and together we have managed..... the magic.  

It was Parmenides who saw this day coming.  

He knew the world 🌎 was One.  He has tickled the fancy of philosophers ever since.  

But he couldn’t quite make it stick.

I think donny and I have stuck it...... with no small thanks to foot 🦶, Princess 👸 and 3.5.  

Basically, God is One, and we are One with the One.

And, yes, any number can play this game, including even, God forbid, Chivo 🐐 💨!  

But bjcd get to lord it...... just the best possible little bit..... I mean we’re gonna make a federal case out of it, and Rudy will be our lawyer, bless his heart 💗.


1540.........

Don’t tell me that donny doesn’t know how to run a meeting....... https://www.axios.com/trump-oval-office-meeting-sidney-powell-a8e1e466-2e42-42d0-9cf1-26eb267f8723.html


1630........

After reviewing Leibniz’ PII, I’m hopeful that I have a better grasp.  

It was the cosmological thought experiment that had me baffled....... consider a universe consisting of two identical spheres.......

How many spheres are there?  

The ‘correct’ answer is...... one.  


1850.............

The only way I can rationalize the philosophical answer is to discount the visual sense.  

Even if vision were allowed, we might have worry about mirrors or the curvature of space.  

If I could simultaneously touch both spheres, would that not falsify the PII?  

Introducing an observer would, of course, violate the stipulation of a universe with only two objects.  

This is necessarily being done purely as a ‘gedanken’ experiment, evidently.  

But even if two objects can become one, this is only a tiny step towards Parmenidean monism.  

His main argument for monism is that change is illusory, but all objects, material or mental, are subject to constant change.

All that remains is some cosmic Being, beyond space and time.  

Eastern philosophers would argue that only the Abyss remains...... beyond the play of maya.  

As a relationalist, I would have to argue that no solitary being may exist...... we can’t have a Creator without a Creation, for instance.  

The monism of the BPW is mainly to counter the dualism of the Cartesian variety.  

As an ontological monist, I argue for the supervenience of love.  

I’m doubtful that Parmenides would have been persuaded by such an ontology.  


2000........

Fores,

Better not get me started on Sophia.......


2350..........

Chivo is not going to make a very good historian.

My encounter with Sofia was on a night, early into 1977. The Princess was born about a year later. I think think of her as my goddaughter.



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My Princess is Wisdom Herself.
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Post by smelly da goat Tue Feb 02, 2021 3:51 pm

There is much more mythology in gnostic circles about Sophia.

Dan believes his physical princess is the incarnation of Sophia.

But this impossible, Sophia is a psychic entity in the imaginal world.

His princess is just a woman, a muppet, like the rest.

The Abyss may be where you have to stay with no spirit.

As the demiturd stole her spirit to make man, that spirit lives in us.

That gives us the ability to leave the land of the living and the dead.

If you boot up your spirit and strengthen it.

An interesting story.

Fantasy?
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Post by smelly da goat Tue Feb 02, 2021 6:51 pm

Dan, you met Sophia in an imaginal space.

I believe those imaginal experiences are real.

I’m a great historian.

You don’t know your Gnosticism very well.

They feel Jesus was a psychic entity who inhabited Jesus or possessed the body.

The magick powers he had faded as the psychic entity fully integrated with him.

So if your muppet princess was possessed by Sophia, it would be temporary and she would end up just a normal muppet.

According to Gnostics.
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Post by dan Wed Feb 03, 2021 5:13 am

1210z........

Poor Chivo,

There are no normal muppets.  

We are all one with the One.  

We all incarnate the cosmic Singularity...... the I Am.  

My fav muppet is MTG/JLS........ m stands for marjorie.

Pretty soon, she won’t be a muppet anymore.  

She is miss Eschaton.  

She is a walking portal and a half.  

Now we can begin to understand donny&q a little better.  

JLS......... my *ss!  

Now I was going to say something, but I’ve almost forgot.  

Something about the I Am......

Can we pray to the I Am?  

I don’t see why the heck not.

We are simply asking forgiveness from our higher selves.  

What could be more mundane than that...... pray tell?  

There is one thing mtg is not.  

She is not a policy wonk.

She is no swamp woman.  

She might be a swampman....... qv.  

Aren’t we all?  

Arising out of the Abyss!

Pratītyasamutpāda....... here we come!  

The Lord works in strange ways...... doesn’t she?

JLS...... another piece of the sky 🌌 just fell on little chick 🐥’s noggin.  

It’s almost as good as the Wuhan virus 🦠.  

I’ve asked foot 🦶 if that was his genius at work.  


1610.........

There is only one higher self.  

There is only one cosmic conscience.  

Can there be two?  

There can only be one Telos....... one Omega.

The scientists certainly agree that there is just one Alpha.



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Post by smelly da goat Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:05 am

My favorite muppet is myself.

Anything else is a distraction.

Perhaps our consciousness is our telephone to all else.

To know this, know thyself.

In fact, I know this is the case.

When Dan can speak about himself, he will be more powerful, focused.

Focused mind is a power beyond imagining, why do you think they do so much to distract us.

If you oppress the polis it rises to its best and rebels.

So there is a sweet spot where you hypnotize them.

From there, you can script any world you like.

The higher self is not our concern or problem or knowable really.

Just speculation and opinion.

Be here, live here, pay attention to what’s happening.

Supposing a higher order is a distracting action.

Here we are all now together.

I just said what the Gnostics believe happens when a psychic being inhabits a muppet.

I don’t believe anything or anyone, but I believe in myself, not nothing.

Everything focuses to a point, right here.

Everything you need has been provided.

You even have hidden knowledge buried inside you.

You even have a teaching program running your unconscious you can communicate with.

Who has your answers, where is it all hidden, right under your nose of course.

It takes courage to stand and be the one standing in your shoes.

That’s the essence of final participation, a part of the whole and an aware member in particular.

But let’s talk about the financial uprising.

That’s psyche in your face.

Personally, muppets like Jesus and Princesses are boring.

I much more respect the muppet without super powers who can live this life well and has kindness for their fellow muppets.

There is a level of being no one can know but us.

Do we all feed our data streams back to a ground station, perhaps.

Does it matter really if we are playing our parts?

Well, someone might have the job of managing the ground station.

I don’t need to worry about any of it.

I need to live what comes to me well.

With an open mind and heart.

Alert and aware.

That’s my job.

The balls are whizzing over the plate.

Swing away.
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Post by hobbit Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:35 am



"There can be only one"

Dan,

Why do You need some remote divine being?
To Myself it appears as though in the face of not been able to explain and comprehend the complications of creation ,that it easier to try and install this so called superior being as the creator, thus then been able to dodge the true reality.
Do You feel the need to kill off all humans to then become the only one?
Is that foots plan with the virus?

As a budding trick cyclist You should have both of You locked up in a padded cell.

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Post by dan Wed Feb 03, 2021 11:13 am

Golly, hobbit,

You seem to never be paying attention in class.  

You are too busy throwing spitballs at a straw man of your own devise.  

When I say best possible world...... I mean..... best possible world.  

If you have any complaints, you are beholden to come up with a better model.  

But before you remodel, you might take a few minutes to familiarize yourself with the present model.  

First of all, there is no Creator.  

We are all coCreators.  

And, as I have recently expounded, there is no ‘we’, because we are all one with the One.  

So, no, Ron and I don’t have to go around shooting everyone else.  

We are the multiple personality disorder of the One/I Am.  

We don’t propose a massacre...... well, actually Ron does, but that’s his problem.  

Little chick 🐥 proposes a love-in....... a global Woodstock.  

End of story.  Ron would not have made a good hippie.  

This is our prophesied Rapture...... all ye, all ye in free!  

Do you have a better idea, hobbit?  

It will be completely voluntary.  

But, in the end, resistance is futile.  

The more you resist, the harder you fall.  

That’s just how love is.  

This will be our very close encounter with Eternity.  

But, hey, hobbit, if you wish to spend eternity in the Hallelujah Chorus, I’m sure that can be arranged, too.

Am I leaving anything out?  

Feel free to make suggestions.  



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Post by hobbit Wed Feb 03, 2021 12:07 pm

Quite good until,

"We are all one ( correct), with the one ( incorrect)"

"prophesied rapture" is ballocks, man made up ballocks.

As cocreators We can make this planet anything We so co determine.

Consciousness is not a by product of our minds , it is the maker of all, it is your maker, but not a remote god, it is a substance.

Until We drop this shit of a god crap and begin to comprehend the true nature of consciousness the Rons of this world will think they are on a prophesied road, and use such crap to justify their lunatic actions, You as a budding trick cyclist should realise such and put a spanner in His cogs.

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Post by dan Wed Feb 03, 2021 12:29 pm

1930z........

hobbit,

I give my complete allegiance to Truth.  I don’t need spanners.  

Very fortunately, Creation is not a democratic/populist institution....... é pluribus unum.  

We have no choice but to make the best possible world.  

Anything else would be squaring the circle.

Virtual, by definition, the BPW is finite in space and time.  

We may not be at the end of the line, but we do have ample evidence.  

I labor under that assumption.  

I’m all in favor of the transcendent....... it’s just not modulo space and time.  

There is a big difference between us........ you are not a personalist.  

It may be that your just not a people person.  

I’m not terribly so, either....... but what’s the alternative?  

If I were a party 🎉 animal, I wouldn’t be doing philosophy, now, would I?  

If we’re gonna give love a chance, we’d better give personalism something more than a cursory glance.  

No?


2130.........

A rather good analysis of Constitutional Originalism and the New Natural Law.......... https://newrepublic.com/article/161162/originalism-dead-long-live-catholic-natural-law  

What does this have to do with the BPW?  

Well, it explains how the bankruptcy of secular humanism gave way to terribly shallow triumphalism of MAGA.  

Humanism without personalism is an abortion waiting to happen....... and I mean that without necessarily casting aspersions on abortion.  
Going forward, what this means is that the traditionalist Catholic cosmology—with its foundation in Thomist natural law moral philosophy—now prevails and dominates among religious and cultural conservatives, within the law schools and in the courts, heightening the inherent tension of this medieval cosmology with the Protestant and Enlightenment foundations of the American political system.
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The moral architecture of the laws of nature cataloged in the Thomist Summa may, after all, merely disclose what we stand to lose in our lives, not what we stand to gain. We never stop falling. In this sense, the natural law claims, for traditionalist Catholics, not grace or justification but power—zero-sum, terrestrial control of both bodies and minds that shields them from the terror of an infinite, God-emptied universe.
Fear not, chick 🐥 will have something cogent to say about this......


2340.............

More from Peter H Schwartz..........
Democrats keep missing the target because party elites — and, to varying degrees, the liberal and progressive bases of the party — lack a cosmology of any kind, and therefore act upon a more constrained and less exalted stage of possibility, one that is specifically geared to short-term appeasement of interest groups, fractional change and limited audience engagement, and which lacks any clear narrative arc.



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Post by smelly da goat Wed Feb 03, 2021 3:21 pm

Yah, it’s a lot simpler than Dan makes it hobbit, I get your agitation.

But that’s just how Dan sees this.

Evidence does seem to suggest consciousness has formed mind.

Gotta keep it simple and pragmatic I say.

Relax and it just comes to you.

Relaxing is more work than I anticipated until it isn’t.

There is a lot of crap that clogs things up.

And most people are simply full of mounds and mounds of crap.

What is essential?

What is this essence?

What is existence?

I think we never stop asking these questions.

Who could have a complete answer in words?

I don’t think anyone can.

We should always be skeptical of ourselves and others and our own understanding, which is guaranteed to be incomplete.

Seems like a game to me.

A puzzle 🧩

How one navigates the labyrinth seems common but unique to the individual.

Only the individual will pass.

I don’t believe in penance.

Atone for what, being born a human with gods and mind parasites seething inside me?

Naaa.

Sin is a lie, so is goodness, but beauty they say is eternal, how would I or anyone else know?

It seems any being who incarnates on earth, has a memory wipe.


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Post by Foresaperire Wed Feb 03, 2021 3:23 pm

Distill everything to its truest essence. This is the practice. Rinse, repeat.

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Post by smelly da goat Wed Feb 03, 2021 3:26 pm

Always be reducing...

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Post by smelly da goat Wed Feb 03, 2021 9:05 pm

Frankly, none of us are qualified or smart enough to know or consider what lies beyond death.

It just isn’t important.

In 1 billion years earth is uninhabitable.

“Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming "Wow! What a Ride!”

—Hunter S. Thompson, The Proud Highway: Saga of a Desperate Southern Gentleman

Relax and let it ride muppets.

We make the difference for each other.

I disagree with that guy Peter.

But smelly goats disagree with everybody.

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Post by Foresaperire Wed Feb 03, 2021 9:44 pm

Interview with Dr. Daniel Andrew Gallimore: https://psychedelicstoday.com/2019/04/23/dr-andrew-gallimore-accessing-high-dimensional-intelligence-through-dmt/

Some key take aways:

"This reality that we are in is a lower dimensional slice of a higher dimensional structure. DMT is a technology or tool that allows us access to reach out to these higher dimensions.

Andrew has developed and written about the Intravenous Infusion Model, which allows a timed and steady release of DMT to induce an extended state DMT experience.

Extended state DMT hypothesizes that with enough time spent in the DMT space, the ‘map’ of the space would begin stabilize over time and you could develop a ‘life’ in the DMT space like we do in our waking life."

“We are imprisoned in some kind of work of art” – Terence McKenna

This reality is a construct or artifact of the alien intelligence or the ‘other’

“This reality that we are in is a lower dimensional slice of a higher dimensional structure. DMT is a technology or tool that allows us access to reach out to these higher dimensions” – Andrew

DMT is everywhere

“Nature is drenched in DMT, but it takes a high level of sophisticated intelligence to identify it, isolate it, and discover a means of using it as a tool” – Dennis McKenna

“In order to communicate with these beings, we need to bring the right tools to the table” – Andrew

Target Controlled Intravenous Infusion Model – using the same model for DMT as the anesthesia model

It uses administration of a short acting drug using a mathematical model to control the release

“We are not just passive receivers of information but we are actively constructing our world from moment to moment.” – Andrew

Continuity Hypothesis of Dreaming – it says that dreaming is continuous with our waking life, the brain constructs the world when you’re asleep in the same way that it does when you’re awake
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Post by smelly da goat Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:38 pm

One pill makes you larger, and one pill makes you small
And the ones that mother gives you, don't do anything at all

Go ask Alice, when she's ten feet tall

And if you go chasing rabbits, and you know you're going to fall
Tell 'em a hookah-smoking caterpillar has given you the call

And call Alice, when she was just small

When the men on the chessboard get up and tell you where to go
And you've just had some kind of mushroom, and your mind is moving low

Go ask Alice, I think she'll know

When logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead
And the white knight is talking backwards
And the red queen's off with her head
Remember what the dormouse said
Feed your head, feed your head



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Post by dan Thu Feb 04, 2021 9:38 am

1640z........

Fores tries mightily to denigrate the BPW.  

He is acting like a normal (ETH) ufologist, in that regard......

...... ours is just a puny little podunk village, way off the highway.  

And this is exactly what the scientific establishment, in coordination with the PtB, wants us to believe about ourselves.  

Does this make the PtB the purveyors of Evil?  

No.  It simply makes them the willing dupes of the God of Concealment.  

Heck, if we realized that we were one with the One, it might go our heads.  Our heads would explode 🤯....... just like little chick 🐥’s.  


1700........

Yes, Fores, and the Gnostics do nothing but denigrate Creation.  

I’d hate to think what the world would be, if the Gnostics were in charge.  

I guess it would be some sort of Disney World...... then maybe Fores would be a happy little citizen 😇.  

No, Fores, this world is meant for grownups, too.  

In some essential respects, we could say that it is X rated.  You need look no further than the Crucifiction.  

Yes, the Mr Rogers contingent is welcome here, but that is not the end of the story, in case you were wondering.  

We are the cosmic Grand Central Station....... it’s be here or be square.  

We are the best possible Grand Central Station.  

Get over it, get used to it.  


Anyway.........

We were talking about the poor Democrats.......

According to Peter Schwartz, the only thing lacking to the Democrats is a Metanarrative.

This does seem to be barking up little chick 🐥’s tree 🌲.



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dan wrote:Fores tries mightily to denigrate the BPW.  

He acting like a normal ETH/ufologist, in that regard.  

Ours is just a puny little podunk village, way off the highway.  

And this is exactly what the scientific establishment, in coordination with the PtB, wants us to believe about ourselves.  

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It is important to be educated and observe what is popping into the field and to understand new frameworks.  It's easy to get stuck in the past and to dismiss the "new now."  There are many ways to "know thyself," and it is speculated that many Gnostics used various substances to have revelations and experiences around the Monad.   I guess we have to go back to the very basics for Dan this morning.  101....the bell has rung. Coffee?
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Post by smelly da goat Thu Feb 04, 2021 10:55 am

Poor Democrats?!

The republicans imploded, caused an insurrection, let an orange loser take over using hate speech, can’t control a QAnon fanatic who only believes and pushes conspiracies. And they are heading to adopt white leaning policies. And they believe in and promote a false religion, false god and false apocalypse.

The republicans and all conservatives can delete themselves from the simulation, but too bad, we need the idiots and assholes too.

Yah, we should worry about the Democrats.

Please, those assholes are doing their best to destroy the USA.

Fuck them.

In other news...

I wonder if Dr. Pais is real.

Could the tic tacs be his vehicles or are they using this to scare the enemies and mislead?

Could they be trying to claim the tech is theirs to give America an advantage.

Of course they would do this and much more.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/31798/the-secretive-inventor-of-the-navys-bizarre-ufo-patents-finally-talks

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/39012/the-navy-finally-speaks-up-about-its-bizarre-ufo-patent-experiments

If you ever read about the real Philadelphia experiment, this above could be plausible.

Especially if they are reverse engineering something Wink

If this is real, they would never let us know, hello super secret plane programs.

They would enable all navy vehicles with force field, fusion reactors and room temperature super conductors.

Then they would put force fields in satellites then they would be like, hey Russia and China, your resistance is now futile.

When we had the power to blow up every missile, war would be over.

They wouldn’t end war though, they would use the threat of it to expand control.

These are hella evil muppets we are dealing with.

They will do anything they like.

I don't believe this one.

Too public.

Seems like nonsense left 🦶 types would create.
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Post by Foresaperire Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:13 am

dan wrote:

1700........

Yes, Fores, and the Gnostics do nothing but denigrate Creation.  

I’d hate to think what the world would be, if the Gnostics were in charge.  

I guess it would be some sort of Disney World...... then maybe Fores would be a happy little citizen 😇.  

No, Fores, this world is meant for grownups, too.  

In some essential respects, we could say that it is X rated.  You need look no further than the Crucifiction.  

Yes, the Mr Rogers contingent is welcome here, but that is not the end of the story, in case you were wondering.  

We are the cosmic Grand Central Station....... it’s be here or be square.  

We are the best possible Grand Central Station.  

Get over it, get used to it.  

(cont.........)

Dan, you've been on the "small world' ride at Disneyland for the past 30 years going round and round unwilling to get off because you're still having the time of your life! Weeeee! It's quite endearing actually. You prefer the horse and buggy when we now have tick-tacs floating around. We have no issues with traditionalists but the spirit you channel likes to burn women at the stake, kill scientists for claiming the earth isn't flat and much worse. There comes a time when playing bingo with Grandpa is probably a better time spent then trying to teach an old Dan new tricks.
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Post by smelly da goat Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:36 am

Traditionalists are assholes.

So...

We are all channeling something.

It doesn’t matter what another knows or doesn’t.

It matters for each alone.

It has to matter to them.

If someone has found something that has brought them fun and joy with as little killing of muppets as possible, who are we to complain.

Unless you are one of the ones the assholes kill.

Dan is right about the SWH.

We are all intimately intertwined.

Traditionalists are trapped muppets.

Just watch them in their cages and throw them popcorn, you can’t help another soul in this world really.

Not a one.

But I will help myself, to all of it.

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Post by aaron Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:49 am

Down with the central banks and their member banks who get kickbacks.

Down with fractional reserve banking.

Down with the income tax.

Down with the welfare and warfare state.

Bitcoin/cryptocurrency and the internet is changing everything.

Power to the little people.

Muahahaha!

Dan is still staying hush hush on GameStop and the decentralized currency movement.

Power structures are being reorganized.

It would be a war before they let the dollar lose its reserve status to bitcoin or any other crypto.

Hehe.

Smelly is right, Dan must have his head in the sand.

#SatoshiNakamoto

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Post by smelly da goat Thu Feb 04, 2021 1:58 pm

Yah! ^^^^
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Post by Foresaperire Thu Feb 04, 2021 2:05 pm

Oh no Ack!! That's Dan's nest egg and retirement fund you're speaking of from his Dad (Daddy) and the creation and formalization of the IRS....gasp!! His table is firmly set for money changes in the temple. It's a den of thieves.

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