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First topic message reminder :

We really shouldn’t forget the old mnemonic postings....... https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t236p425-hello-cy-omf-ii-part-2  

Here’s a partial glossary for the mnemonics....... https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t251p700-hello-cy-omf-ii-part-2 .... scroll down.....

Don’t forget other topics pages.......  

https://bestpossibleworld.com/index06.htm

https://bestpossibleworld.com/aAquarium/content.html

https://best-possible.fandom.com/wiki/Best_Possible_Wiki


Here’s more mnemonics...... https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t236p425-hello-cy-omf-ii-part-2

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Time is an illusion and non-linear Dan.  I realize that each second that goes by for you must feel like an eternity.  It is common for many to fill in the gaps of reality based on their own experience.  

If you are unable to track what we are saying in the previous threads it is not my obligation to explain it further for you.  I was not comparing you to Biff.  I have no issues with you Dan but you are unable to keep up.  The best thing you've written in quite some time was earlier today "The flip from paranoia to pronoia is just not that big of a flip......... the quantum barrier, in that instance, is rather low."  It is in this extreme subtlety where we hold and find the balance between two worlds.  Your lust and desperation for the eschaton clouds your vision.  We will all have our moment into the Monad and it will be transformative.    

After your insightful post you describe a new strategy... "reading in" Marjorie of the Metanarrative and The Antichrist.  You're stuck in the known unknown.   The transition into the next phase of the unknown unknown requires a deep and complete commitment to work on one's own self and to dive into the shadow.  Don't become distracted by the noise.  Go inward.  Do the work.  There will be resistance but it is the most important you will ever do in your life.

Become eternally comfortable with only your breath.  Know that your commitment to the Best Possible World has impacted and inspired many and I personally am grateful for this.

Fores,

This is a public forum.  

We are obligated to explain ourselves.

It would be helpful if you could be a little more specific in your complaint against me.  

The only specificity that I’m able to ascertain is your implication that I am obsessed with the Eschaton.  

Well, I see the Omega/Eschaton as an essential piece of the Best Possible World.  

In other words, from within historical time, the Metanarrative will appear to have an End.  

However, from the perspective of Eternity, all aspects of history are eternal.  The appearance of the Omega is relative to your frame of reference.  

Yes, from the perspective of Eternity, the Eschaton is a relative illusion.  

Chivo and I have gone around on this point many times.  

I am addressing my words to a general audience, many of whom are familiar with the conventional understanding of eschatology.  

I generally do not limit myself to discussions with metaphysical virtuosos.  

However if you would like to have such a discussion, we would need to be careful to make sure that the others would not feel left out.  

I’m sure that this can be accomplished, but it would require patience on all sides.  

I think it would be helpful to have Chivo as a mediator. He has been at this for several years, as you may have gathered.

I thank you for your consideration.



(cont........)

1500z.........

Yes, the Kingdom is within.  Does that mean that we have to turn inward to find it?

It depends on how many Kingdoms there are.  

In my estimation, and being a monist, there is one Kingdom.  

Understand that this is a first approximation.  

The point is that we are talking...... é pluribus unum.  

Granted that there is but one main kingdom, it would behoove us to consult with our fellow beings..... before plunging in..... solo.  


1600.........

There are plenty of folks, like Fores, who say...... the heck with the rest of you, I’ll just go it alone, and may the devil take the hindmost.  

If this is your attitude, there is little point in discussing it in public, other than to try to overcome your own doubts.  

The Eschaton is not recommended as an arena for hot-dogging.  

It is not a platform for showing off your high diving skills.  

I don’t believe in overpopulation.  

Every one of us is here for a reason.  

All of us have been brought together for this occasion...... for our final participation.  

We are all in this, together.  

It’s not as if one end of our ship is going to sink.  

And it’s not just sink or swim.  

We are not God’s spawn.  We are God’s children.  

If we look after each other, she will look after us.  

The internet is the source of many problems.  

It is a tool that is being abused by too many of us.  

But rest assured that, in the end, it will be our life net.  

It is no accident...... that is for sure.  

Look no further than nature........

There is an important role for synchronized hatching .

Now, everyone competes to the most woke.  

Ok, but understand that this is a friendly competition.  

We are jostling our siblings in the nest.  Let us not get carried away, and start pushing each other out.  

Or we could be like lemmings headed for the ocean .  

Well, if we are woke, it behooves us to keep our eyes open....... there be monsters in the deep.  


1720.......

But, no, the monsters won’t win.  

They are strategically placed to keep us awake.  

Our sojourn back home was not meant to be a cake walk.  

So what was it meant to be?  

This is our final participation.  

It’s not about who wins this ‘contest’, but about how well we play the game...... it’s about our teamwork....... how constructive we can be.  

How well we put together our various talents.  

Between our original and final participations, we have experienced the regime of ego consciousness.  

Our herd instincts have been much maligned.  

This is operative as long as we have our level playing field.  

We call it the Earth.  We have made this ‘dome’ our home.  

The whole point of immaterialism is that the Earth is not as solid as it appears.  

The rug is about to be pulled out from under us.  

Then we will face the Abyss.  

The portals are about to be thrown open.  

Do we have to leave?  

Is there a fire in the theater?  


1800........

Are we going to be raptured into the sky ?

Well, the lights might go out.  

The chip readers might stop reading.  

Should we be prepping our survival kit...... our go bag?  

Put an extra gas can in the car?  

Our should we be stocking our underground bunker?  

All of those options are available.  

Will this be the zombie apocalypse?  

That may depend on your perspective.  

If we take a clue from nature, there will be predators and prey. 

It will be time to sharpen your predator instincts....... and/or your herd instincts.  

Will this be the best possible hunger games?  


All this sounds a lot like the Tribulation.  

Haven’t we already had two thousand years of tribulation? 

There will be panic, but mainly it will be about ensuring the best possible exodus.   


And let’s not forget the left behind...... 

The tree huggers.   

There will be a ground crew to oversee the exodus, and to help with the transition back to our original participation.   


Keep in mind that all this temporal drama is an illusion.   

It is an illusion that has been in preparation for all Eternity.  

And that we, as individuals, will be playing every single part.  

The Eschaton is for our edification and entertainment...... think of it as edutainment.  

Try not to take it too seriously when your neighbors start wielding their automatic weapons.  


Or, we could just go ahead and have Disclosure, now.  

Of course, even the mildest of Disclosures could well trigger all of the above.  

Quite likely, the Princess we know is just a proxy, but we still get the picture.  There is reluctance..... hesitation on the part of the powers that be.  



(cont.......)

Biff is trump, from the back to the future movie series.

He was a disgusting pig who took over the world because he had a book from the future that helped him cheat in gambling.

It is an example of quantity over quality.

Movies came out in the 80s and they were a reaction to rampant consumerism.

Excess brought the worst out in him. Biff projected his immorality on the world.

Biff is an archetype for the modern robber baron.

There was genius at work behind trump.

I thought this very very interesting.



Why did trump have a total anti-human agenda?

Why did his supporters rabidly support their own destruction?

Disease.

This is a severe psychic eruption.

Yes, we appear to be following a general pattern.

The world is built around such.

There are cycles of inner communing while actively interacting in the world.

One world is good enough.

As above, so below.

It takes a balance between outward action and inner reflection.

I have never said ignore the world.

I have accepted it is not my problem to solve.

It needs no solution.

It is happening.

We can feel integral to it or alienated from it.

I would say those feelings are about others and our connections to them.

They happen in one world.

A shared world.

I happen to feel the inner world is shared by the one world too.

I am responsible for my part.

The part I appear in.

The time I have appeared in.

The ones with more money, are not anymore or less important to the world.

Those poor, are not more or less important than others.

Apes have social tiers.

This is ultimately for the protection of the group.

Individuals do try to upset the order and seize power, but they can’t sustain themselves.

This is not an equal world, who says it should be?

Is nature about equality?

It seems to be about competition.

It can be reduced to 0, but it is not equal.

The morality of equality has become a tyranny.

This is true on the left and the right and all in between.

These things are not black or white.

Ideologies based on an imagined perfection are useless.

That’s not the world we live in.

Going inside is an act of quality, not equality.

Live where you are, in your own life.

The world is overwhelming.

How best can we live?

This has always and will always be my question.

A rational ape is fronting, acting.

An irrational ape, is driven by emotions, not rational thought.

Political genius is being able to use these emotions to get work done.

But Trump was not building.

He was attacking.

Take notice.

He was attacking the system he feeds on.

Here is my take.

He came to attack the people.

The business owners tried a coup.

That’s all.

No Eschatons need to be connected to it.

It was a classic power move.

The world is what it appears to be, a planet full of conscious beings struggling.

We have learned some things.

Most do not know how to live here.

They are not doing their best.

Hesitate and die.

Act and die.

Or hold on tight and live terrified and die.

Or go with the flow and live in nirvana and die.

Seeing a theme here?

One must honestly face this state of affairs if they can and choose to go on living.

Let’s be honest at least about the absurd reality of living and dying and believing one can transcend it somehow.

Really?

Shall one live with zen mind, awake here and ignoring flowers in the sky?

Or one can find a flower anywhere they look.

Flowers in the sky happen, I think it’s a mistake to ignore them.

I have not told anyone what to do, only what has worked for me.

Which I know won’t necessarily work for others.

Life is learning the art of the possible.

We are driven to find reasons why it is.

How many myths and stories about life?

Science is all myth too, just theories that can never be proved, see Karl popper.

We ignore the first great evidence, we are here, breathing, together.

I think Dan has a fine imagination.

So does For and ones like them.

Who is seeing and hearing clearly?

No one can prove better seeing or hearing.

You go with what works for you in the moment.

Life is a big bloody mess and death clears it all up.

I try not to let myself move my eyes from my feet these days.

Look at the lies of Q and religion, disclosure, no thanks.

Really, I don’t care about that nonsense.

Apes are emotional, we have to deal with it.

If life is anything, it’s about learning to live with other emotional beings.

Get over it, get used to it.

2200z........ 

Chivo, 

Everyone is living their best possible life, until another one comes along.  

That new life will be the new best.  

Some of us seek our fortunes.  Some of us search the world for love...... adventure.  



(cont.........)

It is here, now.

A force all around us that binds and connects us.

Philosophy, Seneca said, teaches us doing, not saying.

Philosophy as a way of life seeks to transform how we live.

Our systems are breaking down.

Our religions are hollow.

Our science is heartless.

Our philosophy is numerical and logical.

In the ruins of love, a syncretic mystic can feast for a 1000 years on what is laying around in the western ruins.

We live in the ruins of the previous age.

It was blasted to bits during the 20rh century.

It was burned in ovens and its bones were ground to ash.

All that life consciousness lived, snuffed out, most cruelly.

It is as if a robber has broken into the inner sanctum and has passed over all the valuable items.

Look at what has survived during our conscious time in duality, philosophy.

Which was very different in our ancient memory than today.

When I was jolted by psycadelics, I found the perennial and eastern philosophies.

Underneath respectable science and philosophy is animism and shamanism.

Alchemy and Hermetics and Qabbalah, all based on degenerate forms of ancient myths.

Magick has lived in the shadows.

Mystics in every religion speaking the same language of the heart.

Art and poetry reflecting our minds moving through space.

There is a convergence point.

Right here, in the apparent ruins of love.

It seems we all have to look before we choose to relax.

We look into the world and ourselves and we go, you know, don’t sweat this.

Make the best of it.

This is a pornographic age.

We have decided something beautiful is not always beautiful and so we have invented rules about what is acceptable and not.

As a group, this is bad, but as an individual, nothing is taboo.

We live schizophrenic lives.

On top of that we add a Trump and aliens and you have a full blown insane asylum.

Philosophy can help.

Asking how best to live here can help.

It can bring a calm to the storm.

Calm is better than a storm for living and working.

Philosophy helped me to balance my vision.

I never really thought about thinking until my 40s.

I would say to anyone, you don’t know what you think you know, you are in fact pretending, question your thoughts and beliefs and assumptions.

Then look again and now what do you see?

Riiiiiggghhhhtttt

You see what a dope you have been.

You will defend a cherished belief unto death and murder.

That is interesting.

We need a reason to live.

We will kill for it.

Our minds cannot be content living as the animals.

But living as an animal gives us comfort sometimes.

We have to live with awareness of feeling and thinking about this.

Philosophy can help make sense of this mass of signals.

Learning what shit signals are and what the good ones are takes practice.

But nothing is static.

All our practice just helps us to to stay focused in the storm.

You have to bring it when it’s needed.

I can offer no one a kingdom of god.

How dare I ever pretend to offer another hope like that.

I can see patterns in history and my actions.

I can see things don’t always go as planned.

I can see our own present collapse.

I can improve my view.

I can do better.

What else can I do for anyone else but give them a shovel and tell them to dig.

Beware those offering answers.

No one knows the future.

The quality of ones life is all we have.

“All ancient philosophical schools refused to consider philosophical activity as purely intellectual, purely formal or theoretical. Rather, the ancients considered philosophy as a choice which committed a person’s entire life and soul. This is why the exercise of philosophy was not solely intellectual but could also be spiritual. The Philosopher did not finally form his disciples only in the sense of knowing how to speak or to debate, but a knowing how to live in the strongest and noblest sense of the term. It is to an art of living, a way of life that the ancient philosophers invited their disciples.” —Pierre Hadot

Lived philosophy is not limited to practicing moral duties, it also involves control of thought and a cosmic consciousness.

We deny the cosmic around and within us.

Living philosophy must embrace all of human activity.

So must anything we do.

Otherwise we degrade into dualities and disintegrate.

You should support what nature has brought forth, like a precious

We are not virtuosos, that’s your jealous ego talking.

We are individuals grappling with cosmic consciousness.

Same as you.

We respect others sharing from their struggle.

We share the burden of the world being here together.

Maybe it being a burden is just our bad thinking.

1500z...... 

On his own thread......
https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t338p575-livin-your-best-life#34705 Chivo has the following quote from Jung....... 

“We have now discovered that it was intellectually unjustified presumption on our forefathers’ part to assume that man has a soul; that that soul has substance, is of divine nature and therefore immortal; that there is a power inherent in it which builds up the body, supports its life, heals its ills and enables the soul to live independently of the body; that there are incorporeal spirits with which the soul associates; and that beyond our empirical present there is a spiritual world from which the soul receives knowledge of spiritual things whose origins cannot be discovered in this visible world.”

I agree with Chivo that this is a highly presumptuous statement, on the part of Jung.  

It considerably reduces his independent stature, in my estimation.  

All these years, I thought that Jung was able to see through the highly parochial nature of the scientific enterprise.  

According to this quote, Jung concurs with science in consigning the concept of the soul to the dustbin of history.  

I had been thinking of Jung as something of a renegade.  But, no, he too was bowing down before idol of scientific conquest.  Sorry about that, Carl.  

Scientists acted as a bulldozer crew, building a superhighway through the heart of the Redwood forest.  Really, Carl!? He was just another modernist jerk?  

His problem was that he had no cosmology.  His collective consciousness was very much biologically oriented...... very parochial.  

It seems that he had no conception of panpsychism.  He was a thorough going Cartesian dualist, with respect to the human species...... he was a Darwinian, pure and simple.  

Panpsychism still suffers from the presumed duality of matter and psyche.  It is a kind of quantum dualism.  

There is no conception of the observer problem.  


Ok........

Back to politics.......

Are we under threat of a civil war?

Under threat of secession?

I seriously doubt it.  

The January Insurrection has all the hallmarks of being a Pearl Harbor...... that, providing that you have any conspiracy licks, it was staged, right along with 9/11.  

Was the Holocaust staged?  Yes, but only at the very highest level.  

Sorry, I’m not a dualist...... I don’t believe in Satan.  

I do believe that Hitler was a walk-in.

Who staged the Insurrection?  

Well, grant me this much....... foot 🦶 knows who did.  

If you study the logistics..... the mechanics of the Insurrection, you will have a better idea of how portals work...... how portals can be managed mostly on the mundane side.  

Yes, give us an inch of portal, and we can turn it into a minor insurrection.  

Imagine all this psychic drama for a body count of only half a dozen.  

This is considerable progress over 9/11.  

In the meantime, how is our antechrist doing?  He’s keeping the proud boys entertained.  That his job now........ that and golfing.  

Impeachment will be a PowerPoint..... and then we’re done with it.  

Then we can get back to the serious business.......

...... of opening the portals...... right on time.  


1600........

Monism is the belief that there is but one observer.  

Well, all of us are observers, but, as we learned from Wigner’s friend, the observation buck has to stop somewhere.  

Where better than with the I Am?  

And the jguy proved that we could sit down and have a beer with the I Am.  

So, sports fans, the wedding feast in the sky is just a keg party .  

Where we all get to share our thoughts with the bjcdguy.  

After that...........?  

There is no after........ there is no more time...... that’s Eternity ♾.  

When chick refers to Logos Spermatikos, the biological metaphor hardly does justice.  

When we think of those little logoi/homunculi, we think of the spawn of God.  That’s about as far as the biological metaphor can go.  

The spawn metaphor is very wasteful...... it seems.

Think of the Akashic record.  Think of the chrysalis =>> butterfly .  

That’s more like it.  

Trust the chick ....... nothing is wasted.  

Golly, do butterflies drink beer ?  

Stranger things have happened.......


1700.........

So, yes, it’s all about the Telos as the quantum I Am.  

My good buddy from UMd, Frank Tipler, almost got it right.......

See his 1986 book...... The Anthropic Cosmological Principle.  

He has the Big Crunch as being the Omega/Final Observer.  

He even talks about absolute idealism....... but he can’t tear himself away from the Big Bang cosmology.  

Close, Frank, but no cigar.  


1800......

Keep in mind the Boltzmann Brain 🧠 hypothesis......

Boltzmann brains gained new relevance around 2002, when some cosmologists started to become concerned that, in many existing theories about the Universe, human brains in the current universe appear to be vastly outnumbered by Boltzmann brains in the future Universe........ When applied to more recent theories about the multiverse, Boltzmann brain arguments are part of the unsolved measure problem of cosmology.

Yes, besides the measurement problem, we also have the Measure Problem......

Measures can be evaluated by whether they predict observed physical constants, as well as whether they avoid counterintuitive implications, such as the youngness paradox or Boltzmann brains. While dozens of measures have been proposed, few physicists consider the problem to be solved.

Is this not the reductio ad absurdum for the concept of the multiverse?  

It’s all about the myriad cutoff schemes.  

Cosmological cutoff schemes are reminiscent of the ultraviolet and infrared cutoff schemes.  

There is a lot of hand waving that goes on in the back rooms of physics.  

The public face of physics is deceptively neat and clean.


2040..........

There is a notable juxtaposition between logos spermatikos and seminal reason...... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rationes_seminales

This is the idea that the mnemonics were chasing.  

The ideas behind works of art often come in flash.  

This was the essence of the ‘77 encounter with Sophia.  

It’s all in there, someplace...... it just has to be worked out in some coherent fashion.  

This is what monism and the Monad are about.  

This is what inspiration is about.



(cont........)

That Jung quote surprised me too.

I didn’t provide enough context though, he had another shoe to drop with his statement.

I’ll clarify in my thread.

I thought this guys was interesting.



There is a certain romanticism I’m sure in the beginning that is quickly dashed on the rocks.

Silence of the lambs shit.

He must be public for a reason.

Maybe to fight the conspiracy nonsense?

I mean, how can you believe him at all, he’s a self proclaimed spook.

He will do anything for the lie that it will save Americans.

As they kill us with fast food and drugs.

Insane asylum.

Why would one go public like this?

Philosophical disagreement probably.

I could not do one little bit of what the CIA prob does.

The argument it’s for the American people is utter bullshitz of course.

It’s for the American oligarchs.

We are going through our greed phase.

I’m not sure the earth can survive it.

If China is 3000 years old and the parents of humanity, let’s see some real leadership.

I wonder what the Chinese think of us truly.

I think they are moving too fast.

They don’t seem mature to me.

They seem infantile and insecure.

We seem insane.

Jung says we are gone.

We are devolving into rigid ideologies now.

That doesn’t end well.

Someone is experimenting on the public.

Dan is naive the smelly  thinks.

Maybe that’s what they want.

Democracy isn’t perfect, but it slows things down.

Until you get classicism and then rebellion.

The Chinese can wait for us to destroy ourselves.

The jokes spread fastest on the internet.

The jokes work in this world.

A laughing apocalypse, hmmm.

I would prefer laughing to bones crunching.

We are still holding on too tight.

Wallstreetbets and Trump are making me laugh.

Screw the rich idiots.

They been screwing us for 1000s of years.

China is not the parent of humanity but I know who is.

U your lizard fantasies are a result of your ancient brain 🧠 that lived in the terrified of snakes

Time for the kids to grow up.

Lol, uh huh.

And yet my cosmology is a lot less whimsical and childish than the idea of thought form entities and tulpas running amok, an idea plaguing the alternative and UFO community for decades. It's all about conciousness maaaaaan. Hey whatever floats your boat, as Dan has said once before cosmologies are a dime a dozen or something to that effect. A rather profound statement really, it's always stuck with me. Anyway the difference between my cosmology and most others is it fits within the standard scientific view of the universe we have today but accounts for much more of the mysterious bits, filling in the gaps and lies by omission. I suppose it is a bit of a bruise to the ego that humanity would not be up on a pedestal or special in anyway as you and many others contend.

I contend nothing.

You are your own measure and you make yourself or you follow a script.

To each his own.

I just share my view and others can do the same.

Passes the time.

Give a big kiss to our lizard overlords for me.

They can kiss my smelly goat ass and so can you.

Muppet pretender, NPC.

I figure maybe 1.4 million of us are conscious.

The rest I don’t know.

You show little signs of consciousness.

I wonder what it’s like to have no mind.

Sounds divine.

Oh buddy you know me better than that by now. I'm a meta programmer, the npcs remain blissfully unaware but something is starting to seep through. Divine? Maybe but most likely mundane. Say are there scripts running through muppet heads like software? Hmm if so I wonder why, did something or someone put them there? You're funny hellchivo but you do tend to repeat yourself and beat the same dead horses. I'm guilty of it too no doubt as are many on this forum and elsewhere. We all follow our alien protocols.

Dan, the word "Best" is subjective. Can you please describe what this means to you in the context of a Best Possible World. What does being "the best" specifically does this look like to you as an individual, to your family members, to your community, your Nation and the Planet?

U wrote:Oh buddy you know me better than that by now. I'm a meta programmer, the npcs remain blissfully unaware but something is starting to seep through. Divine? Maybe but most likely mundane. Say are there scripts running through muppet heads like software? Hmm if so I wonder why, did something or someone put them there? You're funny hellchivo but you do tend to repeat yourself and beat the same dead horses. I'm guilty of it too no doubt as are many on this forum and elsewhere. We all follow our alien protocols.

Repetition is practice muppet.

Not smart enough to pick up on that I guess.

Keep at it.

It’s all sacred and divine or none of it is.

I mean the deep meaning of those words.

To look into what is sacred, what is whole.

To live life sacredly is to discover the value inherent and give it expression.

Have you shown your value?

Have you shared your heart?

Just us poetic loons left I guess.

The rest want the world to end.

Well, you can all leave anytime.

You know what’s funny, you come back around to a religious view of life if you live it.

Awe inspiring.

Sharing that awe with each other is authentic.

It’s sacred.

Even lizard brains 🧠 are sacred.

I've said it myself on my own thread, "repetition is the mother of learning". That's something one of my favorite teachers taught us in 7th grade. Me thinks you miss some things some times and if you don't think I've bared out what's in my entire heart and soul onto this forum then you've missed far more things then I anticipated. Honestly though I kind of just don't believe it. I think it's a bit of an act and that my controlled chaos magick has enthralled you on many an occasion. I appreciate you giving me a hard time again though, reminds me of my early days at OMF, warns my heart . I'll let Dan have his thread back now. Fore asked a pretty good question.

Fores,

In the BPW, we recognize neither subjects nor objects.  

There exists only the inter-personal.  

In other words, the BPW is strictly relational.  

A cursory review finds no link for interpersonal relationalism.  I came across a book on this topic, about twenty years ago.  I’ll try to remember the author.  

The best possible world is inter-subjective.  

John Rawls’ theory of justice invokes a ‘veil of ignorance’ behind which we could collectively choose the best possible world for all concerned.  

In the meantime, you might take a look at the Joseph Kaipayil’s ‘Relationalism: A Theory of Being’.  

But, wait....... John Rawls is being stupid....... the only legitimate veil of ignorance would be behind the ‘event horizon’ of the Monad, which refers to the I Am...... where the I Am is conceived from the perspective of pratītyasamutpāda....... co-dependency.



(cont........)

How would you define "best" in relationship to inter-personal and relational? If everything is inter-subjective why are you attached to the ending as predicted in the Bible?  Why would you choose a word in your hypothesis that is subjective to an inter-subjective ideal?

A personal world is necessarily finite, quantitatively........ there would only be a finite number of persons, including the I Am.  

In the BPW there is only one person....... paradoxically?  

There is the illusion of multiple persons, as with multiple personality disorder (MPD).  

This is in accord with Wheeler’s One Electron Theory of the Universe.  

It’s only in the combination of Creator and Creatures that we have any substantial ontology.  

Creation is a codependent arising.  

The best possible co-dependent world is necessarily finite in time and space.  

The BPW necessarily has the topology of cosmic bootstrap or strange loop.  

This loop is frequently referred to as an Ouroboros, in mythology.  

In an Ouroboric cosmology, the Eschaton is the gap between the Omega =>> Alpha.  It only a relative illusion from the perspective of the I Am.  

The BPW is where love is maximized...... where we understand love predominantly from the perspective of agape.

The maximizing principle, especially in the case of agape, is in the qualitative sense, rather than the quantitative, of course.



(cont........)

U wrote:I've said it myself on my own thread, "repetition is the mother of learning". That's something one of my favorite teachers taught us in 7th grade. Me thinks you miss some things some times and if you don't think I've bared out what's in my entire heart and soul onto this forum then you've missed far more things then I anticipated. Honestly though I kind of just don't believe it. I think it's a bit of an act and that my controlled chaos magick has enthralled you on many an occasion. I appreciate you giving me a hard time again though, reminds me of my early days at OMF, warns my heart . I'll let Dan have his thread back now. Fore asked a pretty good question.

Well, doesn’t matter what muppets believe or not, so.

I have what I need when I need it.

I do what is to be done when I do it.

The rest isn’t my worry.

Have you really exposed yourself?

Or have you been trying to keep your act up?

And I am just bullshitting with ya 🧠

I’m watching the House managers presenting their case for conviction.........

Pretty powerful.

While you watch that us wallstreetbets Reddit traders will steal some more of that hedge fund money they stole.

https://www.satyoga.org/a-new-declaration-of-independence/

I the people.

Hobbit