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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    First topic message reminder :

    This is the continuation of the Immaterialism 6 thread.......

    The original topic reminder post https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t320-immaterialism
    should be substituted here......

    Please remember to confine you dialogue to matters that are pertinent to the topic of immaterialism/disclosure.

    Thank you.
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    Post by 99 Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:44 am

    smelly wrote:You're not the judge of anything but yourself.

    We can all give ourselves a break and be honest.

    Platitudes are nonsense made by angry morons.

    Please, oh please, somebody give this guy a Snickers.
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    Post by SurfBum Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:46 am

    I believe Kit-Kats are for breaks, not snickers.
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    Post by dan Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:51 am

    smelly,

    Honesty is only possible if one has a personal connection with the Logos....... with Sophia.

    Sophia is the one who got me started in all this...... back in ‘77.


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    Post by SurfBum Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:54 am

    Ok Mr Logos, what is the truth?
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    Post by dan Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:57 am

    Truth = love
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    Post by whoknows Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:59 am

    Dan wrote:Sophia is the one who got me started in all this...... back in ‘77.

    Yeah I know.

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    Post by SurfBum Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:59 am

    That's funny, Sophia is the one who got me started in all of this back in 2018

    but that was dream land

    the dream is over
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:00 pm

    I made a general statement we can all stay in our lanes and have our own personal experiences.

    I'm honest, I don't have any moral sense of love for any thing or any one.

    That was conditioned into me.

    My feelings of love are for friends and family where I have built connections.

    I do not love the world.

    I know the substrate of being is love, not the feeling, and it flows like water between all particles.

    That does not mean I like and love everyone.

    We can not like each other, we can accept that and build on it or let those connections go.

    I especially don't like moralizers or others telling others how to live.

    We can allow 7 billion opinions on it.
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    Post by dan Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:01 pm

    Aaron,

    Why deny the dream, if it is the best possible dream?
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:01 pm

    99 wrote:
    smelly wrote:You're not the judge of anything but yourself.

    We can all give ourselves a break and be honest.

    Platitudes are nonsense made by angry morons.

    Please, oh please, somebody give this guy a Snickers.

    Let's all cool it on the moralizing platitudes.

    Or don't.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:03 pm

    You don't deny the dream, you just awake from it.

    IMHO, being lucid blows the dream stories away.

    But all have the choice of red or blue pill.


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    Post by SurfBum Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:06 pm

    yes, we don't deny the dream

    It is the best possible dream

    you wake up and it blows away in the cool summer evening breeze

    Our natural mind is clear, simple, and ordinary



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:07 pm

    You can come back to the stories anytime.

    The cosmos speaks to us in verse.

    From here, you can give your self everything.

    No false story dream promises needed.

    It seems best to assume all words are lies by nature of them being fictions.

    People are very invested in their words, just fictions from my view.


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    Post by dan Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:14 pm

    What do you think of Jesus’s dream?
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    Post by SurfBum Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:14 pm

    To become lucid one must invite the 'fear of the unknown' to tea

    I think Jesus's dream is Jesus's dream
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:18 pm

    dan wrote:What do you think of Jesus’s dream?  

    Fiction, just a koan, a personal fantasy.


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    Post by dan Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:20 pm

    Aaron,

    Ok....... and was his dream possibly an essential part of our best possible Dream?


    smelly,

    And was it not possibly an essential part of our best possible koan?


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:21 pm

    Everything is essential Wink

    Isn’t that definition of love and the foundation of compassion?

    The rider needs his chariot.

    What do you do with this lucidity Dan?

    John Lennon summed it up pretty good for me.

    The dream is over.

    Reality is my life here and I have to tend to it.

    Stay connected to life.
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    Post by dan Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:24 pm

    smelly,

    Everything is essential .......?

    Yes, but........ we all need crib sheets, in order to get through life.

    Just saying.......
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:26 pm

    And what I’m just sayin is...

    Through Being here, no fiction of an afterlife or controlling jealous creator, the script just materializes when needed Wink

    You have to try it to know.

    It’s the Magick part of life to me beyond logic or before it.

    Coherence is fine, but not more essential.

    No stress from expectations or prophecies needed.

    This is what we may evolve to.

    I dunno.

    Lucidity works for me.

    I’m about 1000% less anxious and angry about anything or one, but anger is essential too, when it appears.

    Straight on.


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    Post by dan Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:28 pm

    Straight on........

    I’m suggesting that, historically speaking, Jesus took lucidity in a whole new direction.......

    Pointing straight at the Monad.

    We aim to please. You aim, too, please, smelly.


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    Post by SurfBum Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:31 pm

    There is only one dream and one dreamer

    I can't think of anyone else's dream it would be other than the J-guys

    but so what?

    the dream is the dream

    when you wake up from the dream there is just the immediate and ordinary arising of what is and isn't

    just this
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    Post by dan Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:33 pm

    Aaron,

    ....... and so the Eschaton.......
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    Post by SurfBum Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:40 pm

    Eschaton is their story...their dream

    They can have it
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:40 pm

    I don’t aim, ha!

    It’s a Zen thang Wink

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