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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    First topic message reminder :

    This is the continuation of the Immaterialism 6 thread.......

    The original topic reminder post https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t320-immaterialism
    should be substituted here......

    Please remember to confine you dialogue to matters that are pertinent to the topic of immaterialism/disclosure.

    Thank you.
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    Post by SurfBum Tue Apr 23, 2019 2:28 pm

    Oh yeah!

    Jazz on a hot summer day

    that hits the spot
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Apr 23, 2019 2:37 pm

    99, I am the Lily Prince who has given up his throne.

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    Post by 99 Tue Apr 23, 2019 2:46 pm

    Thank You Smelly for revealing your true identity and because of that, a prophecy has now been fulfilled based on Job 7:11*. YOU are the OMF mole who may or not defect soon, if not sooner! But don't bother with an airline though as this mission is so secret, your ticket will be blank which will render it impossible to process. Go to the nearest portal in your back yard instead as it's your only means of escape!

    * Job 7:11 
    11 “Therefore I will not keep silent;
        I will speak out in the anguish of my spirit,
        I will complain in the bitterness of my soul.


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    Post by SurfBum Tue Apr 23, 2019 2:55 pm

    Next Sunday on Game of Thrones the great battle between the humans and the White Walkers/Undead commences.

    The whole series has been leading up to this.

    I'm still on the fence about which side I want to win...
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    Post by dan Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:10 pm

    I don’t want to interrupt this jazz fest, but there is a glaring lacuna in the best possible philosophy.......

    Relationalism seems inimical to essences, yet, I don’t think I’m ready to jettison them.  

    What have essences done for us, lately?  

    One recommendation for essences is that smelly will likely hate them, once he thinks about them. He will try to not think.



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    Post by 99 Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:12 pm

    Note: Aaron is trying to obfuscate the information being shared in the last few posts by posting stuff after each of my reveals to give the impression that everything I am talking about is fiction. You betray yourself Aaron as to who and what you really are everytime you do that. lol


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    Post by SurfBum Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:15 pm

    huh?

    nah

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    Post by SurfBum Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:19 pm

    dan wrote:
    What have essences done for us, lately?  

    You just think long and hard about that one Dan.

    You have all the time in the world to work it out.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:27 pm

    Dan, here is my move...ah ha!

    https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/17544750903528872

    99, Job 7, Ha!

    Since the wind is blowing in this direction, let's take a quick look at Job.

    I'll flow with it.

    I can certainly relate to the dude.

    Job 7...

    Job’s Life Seems Futile...haha!

    Yes, seems is the key word.

    7 “Remember that my life is but breath;
    My eye will not again see good.
    8 “The eye of him who sees me will behold me no longer;
    Your eyes will be on me, but I will not be.
    9 “When a cloud vanishes, it is gone,
    So he who goes down to Sheol does not come up.
    10 “He will not return again to his house,
    Nor will his place know him anymore.
    11 “Therefore I will not restrain my mouth;
    I will speak in the anguish of my spirit,
    I will complain in the bitterness of my soul.
    12 “Am I the sea, or the sea monster,
    That You set a guard over me?
    13 “If I say, ‘My bed will comfort me,
    My couch will [c]ease my complaint,’
    14 Then You frighten me with dreams
    And terrify me by visions;
    15 So that my soul would choose suffocation,
    Death rather than my [d]pains.
    16 “I [e]waste away; I will not live forever.
    Leave me alone, for my days are but a breath.
    17 “What is man that You magnify him,
    And that You [f]are concerned about him,
    18 That You examine him every morning
    And try him every moment?
    19 “[g]Will You never turn Your gaze away from me,
    Nor let me alone until I swallow my spittle?
    20 “Have I sinned? What have I done to You,
    O watcher of men?
    Why have You set me as Your target,
    So that I am a burden to myself?
    21 “Why then do You not pardon my transgression
    And take away my iniquity?
    For now I will lie down in the dust;
    And You will seek me, but I will not be.”

    Faith in God grows by hearing and reading the Word of God.

    The above is the foundation of consciousness, the hearing, speaking and knowing the word.

    That is not necessarily a good thing.

    Consciousness is the monster perhaps, I see a one eyed purple beastie being a brat.

    Consciousness is not my God.

    It is not what I AM.

    That sounds crazy maybe.

    But, no, it must stop here, no further, to quote Professor X from the X-Men, about what the muppets have taken.

    I am dancing with Consciousness in a circle, it seems like a cat.

    It's sizing me up as a meal.

    **GULP**

    Then there is Being here.

    Being here is everything and short circuits the beast.

    The beast grows from desire.

    Be careful what you read.

    Do you know who Job is talking to?

    I do.

    I am a know-it-all after all.

    Remember this is code, it's an inner map, it's not literal.

    Any child knows this.

    It's from a time when we heard voices in our minds directly maybe, reads like an inner dialogue, ahh ha!

    It was the Voice he is speaking to, Awareness!

    Awareness was not always silent.

    Sorry, I charge for Biblical interpretation, I'll leave it there.

    I think I wrote it actually, yes, I'm sure I did.

    Here, I don't know nuthin bout no prophecy.

    No God will have me.

    They don't like when you toss their gifts back at them.

    They get very lightening and brimstoney.

    Back to the Jazz...that is a portal here now.

    My friends are behind me in the smoke.

    If you squint, you can see them.

    I only seem to be alone, but I am part of the Vanguard.

    IT is just slightly coming into better focus.

    I'm clouds, we come and go, chance of rain or sunshine is 50%.


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    Post by SurfBum Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:44 pm

    The last scene of that Paul McCartney - Who Cares music video smelly posted has pretty black and white spiral umbrellas.

    If you keep an umbrella in the trunk of your car you can use it to keep dry in the rain or keep cool in the sun.

    No umbrella is good too

    That's the wet with a suntan look

    Who doesn't love a beach bum?

    Surfs up!
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:03 pm

    Everything is in relationship to everything else.
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    Post by dan Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:04 pm

    Thanks, smelly......

    When you squeeze an oracle, you’re liable to get juice.  

    smelly is full of words, and every word is an essence.  

    smelly spouts essences.  

    As a j freak, I’m open to the possibility that he could be the essence of essences...... incarnate.  And maybe smelly is, too.


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    Post by SurfBum Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:09 pm

    Polarity

    Entanglement

    Yin and Yang

    being and non being

    Don't resist the flip-flop ability of things

    To neither resist or cling...this is the great open secret
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:14 pm

    We are in relationship by IP address, so we are part of an electric neural network and thus related.

    My words come from nowhere Dan, who knows why?

    Not I.

    I am just a barking dog.

    Bark bark bark

    A blind donkey.

    Everyone whispers in my ear.

    Here is another whisper...

    The large Moon illusion is an example of a Ponzo illusion.

    With all our magick and science, there is no consensus about why it sometimes appears larger.
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    Post by dan Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:16 pm

    Resisting the cosmic Flip Flop........?!  

    That is exactly what everyone else is resisting.

    I’m the pied Piper of the Cosmic flip.

    Give me a fulcrum, and I’ll flip the world.

    smelly is only able to flip the bird.


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    Post by SurfBum Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:20 pm

    They only pretend to be resisting it

    Some have gone way far out there pretending

    We don't stop caring for the pretenders...pretending not to be IT

    Their pretending is not separate from IT however

    The only birds I sense from smelly are doves


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    Post by dan Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:26 pm

    Yes, resistance is futile.  

    The more you resist, the harder you will fall.  

    Donald is the great pretender...... he is only greasing the skids.

    The Princess resists in her own way.  If I didn’t know any better, I would say that pf&d are the rearguard for the PtB.  If I were the PtB, I think I’d be a little bit worried, just about now.  



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    Post by SurfBum Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:37 pm

    are we smiling like we mean it?
    Wink
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:39 pm

    Resistance only assures a big splat.

    Don’t fight it.

    Even with violence, best not to fight.

    It will pass or take your life.

    Resisting only makes it worse.

    But no road is too far.

    Those who bore great evil did a service to the others.

    They contained it in a way.

    You might say the right ones have always been there to let the right amount of steam out.

    It appears we have a friend.

    But then the earth has been wiped of life several times.

    And as Job, we just have to take it.

    Can I have some more?!

    We smile while we take it.

    Job took some shit.

    We all have.

    And we have given out as we got.

    That’s smiling like you mean it.
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    Post by SurfBum Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:45 pm

    radical zen

    A monk asked, "What is the essence of all essences?"
    JoshiI said, "Had he existed, he would have been a fine seventy-four- or seventy-five-year-old monk."
    NOTE: If he had known himself for what he was, he would not
    have denied himself for what he is not.

    The truth-seeking spirit is the most destructive of all.


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:47 pm

    Everyone likes to pretend.
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    Post by SurfBum Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:49 pm

    true

    this is a valid point
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    Post by dan Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:50 pm

    Yes, donald is a container....... a focuser..... a one person focus group.  His shadow points to the fulcrum.

    I mean, what is an Antichrist good for, anyway?
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    Post by SurfBum Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:56 pm

    An Antichrist is good for nothing
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    Post by dan Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:58 pm

    Exactly....... with Donald, we get to stare into the Abyss.

    Donald might as well be Max Headroom.

    When we take smelly’s advice, and empty our heads, we are doing only one thing........ making room for the Logos...... the essence of essences......


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