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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    First topic message reminder :

    This is the continuation of the Immaterialism 6 thread.......

    The original topic reminder post https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t320-immaterialism
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    Please remember to confine you dialogue to matters that are pertinent to the topic of immaterialism/disclosure.

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    Post by SurfBum Sat Apr 27, 2019 11:07 am

    whoknows wrote:Gotta ask you Aaron why would you want to be a seeing eye pet for a blind ass?

    Well you almost got out of that one

    Better luck next time


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Apr 27, 2019 11:07 am

    Oh sweetie, you are funny.

    Really, get laid or something, smoke a joint.

    Listen to all that good music.

    You have no idea what’s going on.

    Dementia?

    It’s almost your noon nappie time gramps.

    I have never had anything but a smile for you and a kick in your leaky ass.

    Anytime you want it, come knocking and I’ll spit in your face.

    One of my favorite things to do.

    Smile like you mean it!

    **MUAH**
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    Post by whoknows Sat Apr 27, 2019 11:13 am

    Always glad to give you a hand to help you reveal your inner self there smelly. Very Happy and I do mean it.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Apr 27, 2019 11:21 am

    Maybe you are just a bitter judgmental prik after all.

    I let it all hang out here baby.

    Every smelly bit.

    Enjoy or leave.

    Bitch Wink

    Bahahahaha

    You are such an old leaky boat, love you bitter and judgmental.

    **MUAH**
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Apr 27, 2019 11:27 am

    So Dan, really, I’m not bitter at Jesus.

    I watched a Jesus move last night even, Mary Magdalene, not too good, but I enjoyed Joaquin Phoenix as Jesus.

    Can’t believe River died.

    What a great actor.

    A god.

    I think Joaquin played it like I have imagined it.

    Ironically, they both grew up in a Jesus cult.

    Joaquin is like Jesus playing the joker.

    Before the movie, I got a goat hair up my big fat butt.

    I did a study of the likelihood Jesus was just a story.

    Christ though, hey, I can dig that ghost.

    I have many muppets to deal with these days.

    What can I do, I love the fuzzy little moronic things.

    The are like tribbles, nasty little things.

    You pet them sweetly until they viciously bite you.


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    Post by SurfBum Sat Apr 27, 2019 11:27 am

    You two lovebirds having fun?

    Mary Magdeline is a nut cracker


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    Post by whoknows Sat Apr 27, 2019 11:28 am

    Well, at least we know you are as blind as you say you are.

    I know it's hard smelly but you need to stop transferring your faults on to others. Bad habit you have there.

    See how easy it is to not degenerate into invectives.
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    Post by SurfBum Sat Apr 27, 2019 11:30 am

    The beatings will continue until morale improves


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Apr 27, 2019 11:30 am

    whoknows wrote:Well, at least we know you are as blind as you say you are.

    I know it's hard smelly but you need to stop transferring your faults on to others. Bad habit you have there.

    See how easy it is to not degenerate into invectives.

    Shhhhhhhhhhh

    Go to sleep leaky.

    You are very very sleepy.

    ...and leaky.

    Bahahahahahahahahaha

    You made me belly laugh this morning.

    Thanks.

    You are good for at least one thing.

    The real fun happens when you aren’t here, but you are apparently too stupid to see that.

    Dan, we are surrounded by muppet morons.

    It’s a trap!
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    Post by whoknows Sat Apr 27, 2019 11:32 am

    Hey that's what keeps me here as well. You are indeed good for a laugh.

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    Post by dan Sat Apr 27, 2019 11:39 am

    smelly,

    What do you mean ‘we’.  They are all my people.  

    We are just waiting for you to see the light.

    We are waiting for you to say the secret word.  

    You have two choices........

    1) concede to the Truth, or

    2) give up talking.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Apr 27, 2019 11:44 am

    Praise Jesus!

    let me check...

    nope

    nuthin

    but this
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    Post by whoknows Sat Apr 27, 2019 11:46 am

    LOL like I said good for a laugh.
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    Post by SurfBum Sat Apr 27, 2019 11:49 am

    Dan thinks you have to choose

    Hahahahaha!
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    Post by dan Sat Apr 27, 2019 11:51 am

    smelly,

    How are you getting along with the Truth?
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Apr 27, 2019 11:51 am

    Dan, the deed is done, nothing left for Jesus.

    - Jesus's historical existence is generally accepted among scholars.
    - The evidence for the reality of Jesus Christ includes writings by historians, artifacts and eyewitness accounts, most 50-100 years since they happened before written down.
    - Consider Nag Hammadi texts here.
    - The spiritual and miraculous nature of Jesus is a different story.

    The Jesus Myth is a composite of many earlier gods.

    Here is the thing with being Zen.

    We are local and connected.

    And....

    We know ourselves as just this.

    No stories.

    Your mind is full of serpents.

    I don’t shill for no one or nuthin.

    Period.

    I’m not sellin anything.

    I have no dog in this race.

    I’m just a mirror.

    Look or don’t.

    I’m here.

    I’m fat and generally happy.

    You need nothing from the smelly goat.

    And I need nothing.

    Kinda cool.

    So we can just be here togther and isn’t that more than enough?!
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    Post by dan Sat Apr 27, 2019 11:59 am

    I believe, smelly, that you were sent to me for a reason....... and I have that reason mostly figured out.  

    You are a tough and slippery nut.  If I can crack you, the rest of the world will be a walk in the park.

    I don’t care if Jesus did any miracles or not.  

    Between the two of us, we will double team the world.  

    We got you, coming and going, smelly...... your time is up.  

    Jesus had the Love...... I have the Truth.  

    You have no other escape........ no other way out of Samsara.  

    You have been lead to the water, now you are going to have drink...... love and truth. The more you resist...... the harder you fall.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Apr 27, 2019 12:06 pm

    Boy loses mind

    Boy finds heart

    Boy has no more point

    Boy meets old man

    Old man loves Jesus

    Old man thinks he knows it all

    Boy sees truth

    Boy must kill old man Wink
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    Post by dan Sat Apr 27, 2019 12:10 pm

    Just don’t bring a knife to a gunfight.

    You see heart and mind as in opposition.

    You will be fighting with one hand tied behind your back.


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Apr 27, 2019 12:13 pm

    I do not.

    Heart and mind meet here.

    My mind is focused like a laser.

    My heart is open to the flood.

    The head must be cut off the muppet.

    It’s the only way.

    “In Greek mythology, it was said that the gods condemned Sisyphus to repeat a meaningless task for all eternity. His task was to endlessly push a boulder up a mountain, only to have it roll down again. The French existentialist and Nobel Prize winning author, Albert Camus, saw the situation of Sisyphus as a metaphor for humanity. He asked the question, ‘How can we find meaning in this absurd existence?’. As humans we are toiling endlessly, building for a tomorrow that never arrives, and then we die. If we truly realize this truth then we will either go mad if we are identified with our egoic personas, or we will awaken and become free.”

    Samadhi.

    But I then have to talk to Dan for eternity and he to me, our own private heaven or hell?

    Absurdities abound before the dawn.

    Just like in Plato’s cave, our only option is to realise the absurdity of who we think we are and futility to our character driven pursuits. And start slowly crawling toward the light. Crawling because initially  we really don’t have much idea about the non dualistic realm outside of our identity dominated reality. This is where really strong guides are needed, and they can be found sometimes through modalities like meditation,  entheogens, or our higher self.

    That’s all I got Wink
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    Post by dan Sat Apr 27, 2019 12:16 pm

    Is that really the best you’ve got, smelly?  

    You don’t even realize how pathetic that is.

    The three of you, counting Plato and Camus, have no clue about Jesus.  

    How can you, if you haven’t been born again?  

    You were hoping to be born again, but you gave up, and took drugs, instead.

    Now you think you know better than me.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Apr 27, 2019 12:21 pm

    I’m pathetic and a good for nothing blind donkey.

    I’m of no use to you.

    My words are dung.

    Good for burning.

    I know you have never really seen the light.

    You talk like a dead muppet walking.

    Keep pushing your stone monkey man.

    Tag hobbit, you deal with this limited silly mind obsessed with stories.

    I have to eat some country fried steak and eggs.

    Mmmm mmmm, that was worth the trip and butter pecan ice cream and coffee and my bmw and my hot wife.

    Damn, I am one blessed donkey.


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    Post by dan Sat Apr 27, 2019 12:25 pm

    Oh, no, smelly........ you are my pearl of great price, wrapped in goat’s wool.

    Before it’s over, Marissa will be thanking me for saving your ass.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Apr 27, 2019 12:28 pm

    I’m poopie pants.

    No one really likes me.

    I’m very irritating.

    Haha.

    Love it.

    They can all suck it.
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    Post by dan Sat Apr 27, 2019 12:30 pm

    You do have a slight chip on your shoulder, smelly.  

    Let’s see if I can remove it, ever so gently.

    And don’t worry, smelly, Marissa and Jesus love you.

    Me........?  I’m more calculating.  

    I have other things in mind for you.

    I’m beginning to understand why Ron had to drop me...... just so that I could get focused on your situation...... thank you, Ron.


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