Immaterialism 6

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This integration process is also called The Journey of the Soul and no one said it was easy. In fact, it can be very painful but, then again, c'est la vie... right? 
But once one sets on that path, which is said to be the one less traveled, they also take back a piece of their sovereignty because their shadow self begins to fall away where only a pristine true self remains... a true self that is a reflection of love.

We have several things going on at once........

The matrix, the hive, groundhog day, alice, seeing the dead, ubiquitous internet, super bugs, ufos..........

The cosmic eggshell protecting our egos gets thinner..... more porous....

One way we protect our egos is by reverting to racial, ethnic, national, gang, clique, etc........ identities.  Those are only a temporary relief...... from the onslaught of our collective unconscious.  

Many third worlders, though, are just coming to ego consciousness for the first time.  

The breakdown of the bicameral mind started in Ancient Greece millennia ago, and is, just now, completing its world domination....through the internet.  

The background for this ego explosion is scientific materialism, with its atomization of the world, and the individual.  

Inevitably, when political cover fails, we turn inward.  

Thus do we see the smelly phenomenon...... egoism is transformed into spiritual isolationism...... everyone else becomes a muppet.  

Such is the political background of Disclosure.  

A case in point is Aaron, who was asked by the Princess to leave the forum.  IOW, he got the memo.  

I have not fully processed this development, but it must be related to the developing politics.  

I truly don’t think the royals ever actually processed the small world.  If foot actually has, it was only under the rubric of an assignment.  

I don’t know if the TTSA group will be able to pull off a follow up to the tic-tac story.  There has been some fumbling.  

Failing TTSA, we have Joe’s group, with a pending lawsuit and other possible exposures.  Exposure at the Lake would inevitably lead back to DC.  

Thus do we see a battening down of the hatches.  Clearly, the WoM/MoAPS will not survive an active, targeted resistance.  But, when the cover blows, there will be hell to pay.  

Is it all for the best?  We’ll just have to see.  

smelly, too, has often served as an ad hoc part of the resistance, unwittingly, though, I’m rather sure.  His resistance, such as it may be, comes from another level, and so may well be the royal resistance, ultimately.  I would not take any of this personally.  It is just personalism, taken up a few notches, I would guess.  All part of the show...... pass the popcorn.....



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I have never been asked to leave the forum by anyone

Welcome back, Aaron.......

So, where were we........?

Haha!

You is funny Dan!

I’m a riot

Happiness

99 wrote:This integration process is also called The Journey of the Soul and no one said it was easy. In fact, it can be very painful but, then again, c'est la vie... right? 
But once one sets on that path, which is said to be the one less traveled, they also take back a piece of their sovereignty because their shadow self begins to fall away where only a pristine true self remains... a true self that is a reflection of love.

Nonsense

I am not isolated at all Dan/Adam, it must be lonely for you though.

It is you who persists in your separateness and distinctions.

If the Princess asked anyone anything she is a pretender.

Awareness illuminates and I have my Being in its light.

Happiness

The Trump and the Joker
Always misbehavin
We are ruled by cartoons
And grotesques
This is who you are
Enjoy the view
It smells to high heaven
What happens next
Is anyone’s guess
Batman’s mask removed
Reveals the Joker
Always peeking through

The spirit moves, and we move with it, eventually.  

There are attempts to bring down the spirit.  

The ASMR phenomenon is one such attempt.  There will be others.

The flying saucer phenomenon is not going away.  

Trepidations regarding the future only intensify.  

The growing scarcities of non-renewables continues to be exacerbated by exploding and mass migrating populations.

The defensive political reactions to these threats, actual and perceived, are constituting a global negative feedback loop.

Technologists strain harder to stay ahead of the scarcities and threats.  

The global financial marketeers can only continue to increase leverage and risk.  There is no turning back.  Capitalism cannot blink.  

The dimensional interference phenomena exist in many guises.  Various folks push those boundaries with all means.  When a global dimensional synergy arises, it is very unlikely to be bounded....... we have another global feedback loop.

Financial excesses, growing expectations in growing numbers, all imploding around our wired globe........

The ptb play with these matches, as exemplified with the royals.  

The psychic forces become amplified in many dimensions.

Pass the popcorn.......?



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With all due respect Dan, you never cease to amaze me, hence why I am here. That was a brilliant disquisition that's worthy of scholarship. Very direct and coherent with none of your usual fuzzy obliqueness injected into it that leaves us scratching our heads on what exactly you just said. I appreciate that... especially on the topic at hand.

smelly wrote:The Trump and the Joker
Always misbehavin
We are ruled by cartoons
And grotesques
This is who you are
Enjoy the view
It smells to high heaven
What happens next
Is anyone’s guess
Batman’s mask removed
Reveals the Joker
Always peeking through

WTG smelly! You pretty much zeroed in on what Trump is all about on this one. I definitely share your sentiment on this one because it's like he's been picked out from central casting to perform the role right down to every excruciatingly horrific detail of it. And like the antichrist in Revelations, he's a got a support base that inexplicably and moronically praises and adores him that can't see past the mask that he wears as an agent for the very elite swamp of one percenters that he claims to be against. It's hypocrisy at its finest but his support base is utterly oblivious of that fact.

With all due respect, 99, I thank you.  

I was going to take smelly to task for casting aspersions on your previous thoughtful post.  

I was of mixed minds....... smelly is scared of me, so he picks on everyone else........ redirected aggression. And then he just gets further provoked.

smelly ought to get good money for his best possible obstructionism.



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Happiness

99 wrote:This integration process is also called The Journey of the Soul and no one said it was easy. In fact, it can be very painful but, then again, c'est la vie... right? 
But once one sets on that path, which is said to be the one less traveled, they also take back a piece of their sovereignty because their shadow self begins to fall away where only a pristine true self remains... a true self that is a reflection of love.

There is no true self 99



“The experience of being an individual is self-confirming. “I am reading these words, because I experience it now, therefore I am real.” That position is a psychosomatic misunderstanding: separation is real. The result is the experience, the false claim, that something is missing, the individual is real and its experience that something is wrong with it or with everything else, are all true.

The experience is firstly what is, is incomplete and second, that through its own efforts it can find that completeness and make its life good (whatever that means). This sharing explores and undermines these false claims by pointing out the overlooked. The individual is real only in reference to knowing. Knowing is the currency of the individual. Experience is the currency of knowing.

This sharing undermines the veracity of the claim, that the individual is what it experiences itself to be. It explores the possibility, that what is beyond experience and beyond knowing, is what is longed for. What is (unknowingly) longed for is the end of the search, the end of need, the end of trying to find completeness.

The individual is stuck in finding something, unwittingly longing for nothing, the end of experience, in that missing the solution: unknowing. There is no answer to the problem of being an individual, the solution is the end of the individual. What is left when the individual ends? Everything as empty is-ness, nothing arising. What is, what is happening, is nothing arising. 'What is' arising, is about nothing. Which is paradoxically the fulfillment of need. Nothing to know, nothing to understand, nothing more needed. The empty is-ness of what is, being without reason.”

-Jim Newman

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The good news is, there is no such thing as separation. What the separate sense of self is looking for is all there is. There is only that. This. This is not particular or exclusive. It is everything exactly as it is. Everything is an expression of wholeness, everything is the end of the sense of separation which the separate sense is looking for but in looking the separate sense can only register something, the particular.

When this reality is recognized, it is seen that there is no separation, that the sense of separation was simply a dream, that it never happened, there is no and never was a separate self in the whole of everything. Everything paradise is perfect and complete. But nothing changes, as there never was separation. The appearance is no longer informed by the search for the end of the fear of death and the neurotic outcroppings of that search, but everything is still, everything. In the absence of the search there is a unknowable wonder that this what is, can be, just that it appears, a quiet awesomeness that is this meaningless purposeless explosion of everything, which is an anarchy of love. Absolute freedom appearing as whatever is.

Everything is on offer

Only nobody can have it

It is nothing

Just this



First 5 min of this appear to point to nothing and everything

You are already nobody

You can’t tell anyone what to do
You can only share your own view
You speak for no god or source
You can be here with no remorse

There is nothing to do

This is nothing happening

I do not own a view, there is just words expressing nothing happening

There is no source, there is only what is

Source would imply separation

True, you can be here with no remorse

There is no one already

so really the everything on offer is already what is

Just this

What is is nothing and it has no meaning or purpose, it just is

Just this

99,

So, ok, smelly partially redeemed himself, with the drawing of the Joker, referring to Trump.  

I agree with both of you on that score.


Aaron,

You are wrong, 99 is correct.......

We all have a true self.  That true self is Jesus Christ.  

At the Omega, we all become one with the risen Christ.  

Why should anyone have a problem with that?  

Why should anyone not think that would be the best possible outcome?  

If you can think of a better outcome, have at it.

Let us hear your proposed alternative, please.  

Who do you think you are?  

What authority have you to tell us that we are nothing?

What an arrogant fool you are, Aaron.  

May God have mercy on your soul.  


99,

I apologize to you for Aaron’s arrogance.



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Aaron wrote:There is nothing to do

This is nothing happening

I do not own a view, there is just words expressing nothing happening

There is no source, there is only what is

Source would imply separation

True, you can be here with no remorse

There is no one already

so really the everything on offer is already what is

Just this

What is is nothing and it has no meaning or purpose, it just is

Just this

Happiness

Trump is the sign of our illusion

The antichrist collecting his fallen church

He’ll tear down all we built

He’ll raise walls

Where we should have open arms

He is truly the Joker

Read Rushdies new book if you like

Under the Batman mask was always Trump

Always, the thugs have been grabbing pussy

At our heart is not a hero looking over humanity

No, just a greedy insecure child

Using the world as a play thing

It won’t blow away

We can only stand

And abide

It’s only going to get worse

This show has been cancelled

dan wrote:99,

So, ok, smelly partially redeemed himself, with the drawing of the Joker, referring to Trump.  

I agree with both of you on that score.


Aaron,

You are wrong, 99 is correct.......

We all have a true self.  That true self is Jesus Christ.  

At the Omega, we all become one with the risen Christ.  

Why should anyone have a problem with that?  

Why should anyone not think that would be the best possible outcome?  

If you can think of a better outcome, have at it.

Let us hear your proposed alternative, please.  

Who do you think you are?  

What authority have you to tell us that we are nothing?

What an arrogant fool you are, Aaron.  

May God have mercy on your soul.  


99,

I apologize to you for Aaron’s arrogance.  



(cont.......)

Aaron has lost his way
He doesn’t know what to say
He spins not knowing why
He has forgotten how to fly
So spins the wheel
Will he be the hero or heel
Will he run and hide
Or can he stand and abide

smelly wrote:

dan wrote:99,

So, ok, smelly partially redeemed himself, with the drawing of the Joker, referring to Trump.  

I agree with both of you on that score.


Aaron,

You are wrong, 99 is correct.......

We all have a true self.  That true self is Jesus Christ.  

At the Omega, we all become one with the risen Christ.  

Why should anyone have a problem with that?  

Why should anyone not think that would be the best possible outcome?  

If you can think of a better outcome, have at it.

Let us hear your proposed alternative, please.  

Who do you think you are?  

What authority have you to tell us that we are nothing?

What an arrogant fool you are, Aaron.  

May God have mercy on your soul.  


99,

I apologize to you for Aaron’s arrogance.  



(cont.......)

Aaron has lost his way
He doesn’t know what to say
He spins not knowing why
He has forgotten how to fly
So spins the wheel
Will he be the hero or heel
Will he run and hide
Or can he stand and abide

Nonsense

smelly wrote:

Aaron wrote:There is nothing to do

This is nothing happening

I do not own a view, there is just words expressing nothing happening

There is no source, there is only what is

Source would imply separation

True, you can be here with no remorse

There is no one already

so really the everything on offer is already what is

Just this

What is is nothing and it has no meaning or purpose, it just is

Just this

Happiness

Happiness, sadness, peace, anger, comedy, tragedy

Everything

Just this

The formless appearing as form

Radically normal dream

What is

Just this

Spectacular normalcy

Dazling darkness

Limitless Light