Immaterialism 6

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99,

Dan, the question you should be asking is if I would die for you and my answer to that question is NO.

I beg to differ with you.  

As a faithful Christian, you should be willing to sacrifice your life for Christ.  

Ok, so then ask yourself, who would Jesus sacrifice his life for......?  

The answer is in the Bible.  Jesus said it.... I believe it........

Unless I go away, the Advocate will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you.

That’s why Jesus had to go away...... so that he could send me.

It’s as simple as that, 99.  It’s not rocket science, is it?  



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Ha

Like I say, Disclosure has got to be a package deal.  

For better or worse, I’m the package.

My only real competition is Klaatu.

Being a package deal it would seem to me that we are all part of the package Dan.

Can it be complete without each and every one of us.

I still can't see how we can not be permanent individual manifestations of the source.

It would be all so lonely otherwise. Or one crowded space I suppose.




LOL it also seems this song could be applied to all to many.

How many times has this one been posted here.





hahaha I can't stop becoming.

jesus is a fictional story, composed of multiple former stories .

If it is a requirement of this forum that one has to be a believer in such stories, then don't You know that You can count Me out.

Hobbit

wk,

Ok, I guess I can be sexy Sadie, too.  

But, yes, you are right.  The real package is the Monad, and I’m just a very temporary stand in.  

Someone had to break the glass ceiling, of our best possible little world....... make the crack in the cosmic egg.

Breaking the glass was actually up to Aliyah, but right now, she is AWOL.


hobbit,

Yes, Jesus is fiction....... but so are you and I.

We are each other’s fictions. This is the truth of interpersonalism.

We clap so that Tinkerbell will come back to life.

Some of us also clap for Jesus.

Do you have a problem with that?


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Aww she's okay, just busy become like the rest of us.

I can see it being but a hard road for many.

Are we the vanguard maybe, the little hammer that breaks the glass in case of emergency or should that be emergence?

If I stand and dance in one spot. all I do is make a depression in the sand.

LOL Just one more while I'm here.

wk,

I pretty much stick to one spot....... OM....... as long as Cyrellys can put up with me.

And, yes, the Princess is forgiven in advance.

I only hope that she can return the favor.

dan wrote:wk,

I pretty much stick to one spot....... OM....... as long as Cyrellys can put up with me.  

By all means be what you must. I personally am thankful for the variety.

dan wrote:wk,

Ok, I guess I can be sexy Sadie, too.  

But, yes, you are right.  The real package is the Monad, and I’m just a very temporary stand in.  

Someone had to break the glass ceiling, of our best possible little world....... make the crack in the cosmic egg.

Breaking the glass was actually up to Aliyah, but right now, she is AWOL.


hobbit,

Yes, Jesus is fiction....... but so are you and I.  

We are each other’s fictions.  This is the truth of interpersonalism.  

We clap so that Tinkerbell will come back to life.  

Some of us also clap for Jesus.  

Do you have a problem with that?  


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I don't care what You believe, but don't try pushing it down My throat.

Happy clappy jesus types are usually very happy types, until they meet a hobbit dowser, then they begin to accuse said hobbit of doing the devils works.

As I don't recognise any belief in said devil, and never encountered such, I tell them they are liars, parroting what they have been indoctrinated to BELIEVE.

They usually stop been happy, and become angry.

I do recognise a system, of centrifugal and opposing centripetal flows of consciousness, and can detect how churches and cathedrals have been constructed to accumulate such to fill those open to such with those flows, in church realms they call it the holy ghost or holy spirit, as You can't normally see it with Your eyes.


hobbit

wk,

One thing the good Lord didn’t hold back on, when he created life, was the spice.


hobbit,

Pushing Jesus down your throat..........

Yes, many believers have a tendency to push their beliefs down others’ throats.  

We all do it.  Do you not tout your uncle Fibonacci?

You would not be human if you didn’t.  

We are forever exchanging ideas and opinions.  

That’s why some people go to school....... and others of us stop going to school.



(cont.......)

Did someone say spice?

Muy caliente!!!

Arriba!!!

Arriba!!!

dan wrote:wk,

One thing the good Lord didn’t hold back on, when he created life, was the spice.


hobbit,

Pushing Jesus down your throat..........

Yes, many believers have a tendency to push their beliefs down others’ throats.  



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There's a big difference in BELIEVERS ( repeaterts) and those who interact with that which I try ( poorly) to describe.

I am Le sorcier.

The source of all is a continuum of flows , they are the alpha and omega.
All of past and future is in those flows, but the future can be moulded, as such, it is all memory based.

The future cannot be based on myths, such as jesus, mithras, horus etc etc, they are all just attempts to describe how a system We are consequences of operates.

The future needs to be the truth.

I fully realise the dangers that so many have sought to conceal about how this system operates, but should We reset to stone age ( again) or interact fully.


12+1=13.


The 1 is core source , a so called black hole, it's where centrifugal reverses into centripetal spin.


hobbit

I believe in goats and blind dumb donkeys.

smelly,

Last night I had a thought about Alan’s take on Jesus........

Your latest video of his reminds me......

It funny that, as Alan points out, the Hindus, if you listen carefully, are putting more stock in the Self than do the Xians.


(cont.......)

Yes

Every someone is you and me.

I feel it like swimming in a bowl of jello, orange jello.

Until one has directly inquired into their own being, the world is a bunch of parts.

Our fortunes and misfortunes, just mirages in the mist.

There aren’t any illusions when you don’t have a preference for your self.

Detachment is just not fighting the flow.

The illusion isn’t evil, Maya.

It means Magick.

The word materialism’s root is illusion.

Ironic how we make the illusion everything.

So what matters?

All of this, none of it.

The real self doesn’t exist for a purpose.

Just to be this.

hobbit,

I do not deny the reality and significance of numbers.  

One can hardly study physics for ten years, without having a deep appreciation for numbers.  

But finally I had to walk away from physics.......

Amidst all of its numbers, there was no room for persons.

Where do persons fit in?

It was the Princess who brought personhood home to me, and, I hope, through me, perhaps, to all of you.



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Prob the smartest thing was to walk away maybe from what defined you.

I don’t have a problem with the noble lies of religion.

The Self does no work, it’s only playing.

I felt to sing dance and play with it.

I’m not serious on OM, but I am sincere.

I’ve only been playing here

smelly,

Yes, religion is full of noble lies.......
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But, before I forget, we’re about to go over the forty page limit for a thread.  

Please allow me to start Immaterialism 7......... https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t358-immaterialism-7#24463

hobbit wrote:

As I don't recognise any belief in said devil, and never encountered such, I tell them they are liars, parroting what they have been indoctrinated to BELIEVE.

poisoned words coming from behind a forked tongue

The disinformation agent known as hobbit, spreading lies.

HOBBIT is on the fed payroll. Pay this govt tool no attention.

Dan-

Any thoughts on Senator Blumenthal's comments during the recent space force hearing? A possible reference to a third party named "they"?