Immaterialism 7

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Death is smiling in the flower

A tragic beauty

If you might be around

Upon my death

Please stoke my bones

In the flames they burn in

I don't want to drive or fly all the way to cali just to stoke your bones

But can you have Marisa send me your teeth when you get old and die?

I'll make a necklace with them and wear them while dancing around a fire under a full moon with drums beating

Then I'll channel root node and reanimate you in the flames

How's that for stoking your bones?

**stoke stoke**

does the stoker tickle?

It was a general poem, anyone nearby can stoke them.

In Tibet, your body is put on a mountain for the vultures to eat.

I like that.

I was shopping for urns today.

It is very interesting, you can take out funeral loans to cover your death, hahahahaha.

I found some dude making custom art from ashes.

I can plant myself in an orchard.

I want them to get a nice fine ash.

I think there are some independent natural services where they burn you in a wood fire.

I'd love to have my friends and family over for a funeral BBQ, I will not be on the menu.

But it should be a fun party at least.

I hope someone reads at least one poem and a little music.

Maybe I will write my best stuff during an eclipse over time, but maybe I just want to get...

BAM!!!

Shrug.

Straight on.

All my words are lies
I am a dung patty
Put me on the fire
And I may yet provide
A little useful warmth

dung burns pretty good

burn
baby
burn

Ashes and Dung

Good death metal band name.

Anyone want to start a death metal cult?

the purpose of gardens is gardens

anyone want to start a garden cult?

Happy Flower Power

I worship at the
Altar of nature
In every breath

*heavy panting*

jofo wrote:it's fun to watch humans put a toe in the "flow" when you're free to just dive straight in

Ha

True

We simply drop the usual positivistic philosophical baggage and look at the equations: in particular
we stop pretending that particles don’t exist when no-one is looking at them. To do this, change the
meaning of one word: ...


http://www.tcm.phy.cam.ac.uk/~mdt26/PWT/towler_pilot_waves.pdf

Yes, Gary,

Thanks for reminding us of Bohm......

Jack Sarfatti was a Bohm aficionado.  Using Bohm, Jack was going to explain consciousness..... until he didn’t.  

Bohm eventually saw the light.  Jack has not.

Pilot wave mechanics is much more convoluted that Newtonian mechanics.  Bohm eventually admitted that pilot waves were over the top, ontologically, and had to be replaced by an implicate order.  

The implicate order is a Jungian archetypal realm applied to the collective unconscious...... the noumena.  

The original Bohmian mechanics is a mathematical model gone berserk....... it is explicitly non local.

There is nothing wrong with non local, but it makes more sense in the realm of consciousness than in any arbitrarily objectified world.  

But the young Bohm is not my problem...... real physicists don’t take him seriously.  

My problem is smelly.........

smelly is playing hard to get.  

smelly is exploring the final hangout for the non believers.  Aaron is his confederate in the land of Oz....... where smelly tries to cut off his own head.  

smelly claims that he cannot be labeled...... that he has transcended beyond all labels.  He cannot be corralled..... he is beyond the sky.  

smelly is welcome to transcend the Logos.  But then he must remain silent.  smelly doesn’t know how to shut his mouth...... that is his fatal flaw.  

As long as someone is talking, they belong to me..... the spirit of the truth. Too bad, smelly...... your fate is sealed..... along with the fate of the rest of us.



(cont......)

I am no one's confederate

You are a little bit weak minded, and smelly is smarter than you.  

He is using you to help obfuscate the Truth.

smelly believes himself to be a master obfuscator.  

He may well be, but you don’t want to bring a knife to a gunfight.  

It is true that smelly has no sense of shame, unlike most folks, so that does make him a harder nut to crack.  

I recognize that there are a lot of folks out there who will not wish to kiss my feet.  smelly is Everyman, in that sense.  

If I can crack smelly, I can crack the world.  Isn’t that right, Aaron?  

Here’s a label....... smelly is an iconoclast.  As a child, smelly had icons rubbed in his face.  He was abused with icons..... with idols.... with golden calves.  

He’s not about to let that happen again.  

What he cannot quite get through his little noggin is that I’m a fellow traveling iconoclast....... that’s why I will also be perceived as the Antichrist...... because I’m just about to take down the Big Boy.

IOW, I’m about to rationalize Jesus.

Obfuscation is a very dull knife. The Logos is a very sharp sword..... and I’m about to wield it against Jesus.



(cont......)

If you try and crack nuts with your teeth the nutcrackers will have nothing to do

Exactly...... I am putting every labor saving device right out of business.

There is no shortcut back to the Monad...... all paths lead through Jesus.  Wrt to Jesus, you have two choices....... you can either believe or rationalize...... you just can’t deny.

smelly and 80% of the world think they can deconstruct Jesus...... that they can smash that Idol. They have another think coming.



(cont......)

Who has a date with Jesus?

Every last one of us does, Aaron.

Every last one of us has a date with the SoT, and the SoT points to the jguy........ I’m just the gofer for the jguy.

And what about Buddha?

Do we swipe left or swipe right for Buddha?

Buddha who........?  

I never heard of her.  

Oh, wait....... that one.....

That one...... he’s a minor actor in the greatest story ever told.

His main claim to fame will be as the one who led smelly astray.  

Wait, again....... maybe I can be a bit more generous.......

He led smelly into immaterialism. Immaterialism got smelly halfway back to the Monad...... but close only counts in horseshoes, and we’re not playing horseshoes.



(cont.......)

Dan is just the best possible used car salesmen in a very small world.

Aaron,

There are smarter folks than you who will be reading this blog.  

I’m writing for them.

Eventually you will be led to understand...... but you will have to be led...... as you have been led by the Princess and smelly.  

You are trying to drink out of a fire hose..... it is not recommended.



(cont......)

I’m not writing for anyone, true



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Wait no, I forgot....zen makes it easy

I don’t have to choose if I’m writing for anyone or not

I can write for both and neither at the same time

Happy Flower Power

I would put zen donkey Joshu up against Jesus any day of the week.

You are taking up some high rent bandwidth.

If you have nothing to say....... why don’t you say nothing....... just a suggestion......