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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:28 am

    First topic message reminder :

    This is the topic reminder post for Personalism 101.

    A good place to start is right here……. https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/personalism/

    My contention is that the BPWH = Personalism.

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    Post by dan Mon Nov 28, 2022 12:47 pm

    Let’s just stick with the two simplest models……… Ptolemaic and Newtonian.  

    The Ptolemaic model would be stationary, from a cosmic perspective.  

    With Newton, we can break the circular symmetry of Ptolemy.



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    Post by GSB Mon Nov 28, 2022 2:13 pm

    Dan, an update from Jack Sarfatti for you; Jack mentions his personal entanglements ;-)



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    Post by dan Mon Nov 28, 2022 8:10 pm

    0310zulu………..

    Thanks, Gary…….

    Interesting link.  

    Jack is as entertaining as always.  

    Jim Ventura is just a little bit scary 😧.   He has a ramrod stuck where the Sun don’t shine.  

    Sorry, Jim…… but really, guy…….!!

    Loosen it up!

    At least, Jack doesn’t take himself so seriously 😳.      
    …………


    Back to our elliptical model of cosmology…….

    Now, just switch from a spatial to a temporal perspective……

    Think of us as a comet ☄ plunging toward the Sun 🌞.  

    But, from a temporal or historical point of view, we are plunging toward the Eschaton.  

    At the last minute, we swerve around the Eschaton, on a very tight elliptical orbit.  

    We are then headed back the other focus of the ellipse……. the Monad or Source.  

    Thus do we have the Alpha and Omega!

    Any other questions?


    0440……….


    Orbit…………?  

    More than one?

    Of course not.  

    Time is the ultimate illusion!!

    We are on the best possible orbit……. sub specie aeternitatis.  

    Any other questions?


    0500………

    Time becomes optional.

    Well, at least, it’s biological component.

    Also, our winding down of history will be decidedly non-linear.



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    Post by U Mon Nov 28, 2022 10:24 pm

    dan wrote:Let’s just stick with the two simplest models……… Ptolemaic and Newtonian.  

    The Ptolemaic model would be stationary, from a cosmic perspective.  

    With Newton, we can break the circular symmetry of Ptolemy.



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    Is it possible to employ the Newtonian model to break out of the CTC?

    Can we as CoCreators create any suitable cosmological model we want ad infinitum?

    That sounds like a better possible world than I've ever dreamt of.
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    Post by dan Mon Nov 28, 2022 10:57 pm

    U,

    Yes, the Alpha/Omega circuit is more or less a quantum CTC.  

    You want to have your cake 🎂 and eat it, too.  

    Well, many mansions is our Father’s house 🏡.  

    I think you’ll find more than enough to keep you entertained……. ad infinitum.  

    Just be careful what you wish for.

    Becoming one with the Source might be more appropriate.

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    Post by U Mon Nov 28, 2022 11:08 pm

    As you once told me about going to the Wishing Well.

    To be honest old man, I couldn't really imagine what having my cake and eating it too would really entail.

    I enjoyed a few simple pleasures today and found myself very content.

    Who is your father exactly?

    Is he mine as well?

    I can say when I did go to the Well while bees buzzed around my head I asked for the purest gift I could.

    I wished to be myself.

    I got my wish.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Nov 29, 2022 12:09 am

    I already posted this and many Dan and Jack videos.

    I'm not surprised you don't pay attention.

    Try to keep up sparky.

    GSB wrote:Dan, an update from Jack Sarfatti for you; Jack mentions his personal entanglements ;-)



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    Post by dan Tue Nov 29, 2022 12:44 am

    The Father is the Source.

    We necessarily become One with the Source.

    If that does not suffice, Nothing will.

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    Post by Cyrellys Tue Nov 29, 2022 4:36 am

    Ummm Smelly?  I got your 'scrambled eggs' for you.  It's called Vajra.  Piece of predeluvian technology.  Handed down by the Sumerians to the Babylonians then on to the Greeks circa 700 BCE - Lydia? (source: The poet Eumelos of Corinth (8th century BC), according to John the Lydian) then over to India.  Had the ability to open portals; not just a weapon.  Double sided three pronged device.  Recorded in the Babylonian Epic of Creation and in the Enuma Elish.  Buddah reputedly took the weapon from Indra and closed the prongs to turn it into a "peaceful sceptre" circa 400 BCE.  Same device or more than one?

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Nov 29, 2022 8:15 am

    Come on, scrambled eggs was funny.

    He’s still scrambled, for the duration would be my guess.

    At least he can put sentences together again.

    Progress.

    As far as mending fences with the family Dan.

    Hide your crazy.

    If you want to be one with the source, you have to be one with them too.

    Be gentle with them.

    Don’t think you can just ignore their concerns.

    You can’t.

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    Post by dan Wed Nov 30, 2022 5:15 am

    My stay at the hospital has been extended six day, apparently because I’m talking crazy 😜 about being the Second Coming.

    I didn’t know it was illegal to say you’re the Second Coming.

    I’m going to find out more with the arrival of the day shift.

    Psychiatrists work bankers hours, compared to the rest of the hospital staff.



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    Post by 99 Wed Nov 30, 2022 6:36 am

    That's pretty ridiculous... extending your stay like that just because you were expressing what most would interpret as a religious viewpoint though in your case it's more complicated than that.

    It looks like from here on throughout the duration of the remainder of your stay there, you should refrain from expressing your views about this topic (the second coming) that landed you that extension.

    But talking to a psychiatrist there and giving him/her more clarification on your views in this area would still be a good idea.


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    Post by 99 Wed Nov 30, 2022 6:51 am

    Anyway dan, don't let anyone tell you that you're wrong about needing a break and separation from family members if they are contributing to a toxic environment at home and elsewhere.

    Family is important and your relationships within it are important too but you first need time to just focus on YOU now.

    YOU, at the present time, should be your priority.

    Mending relationships within the the family comes second.

    If a break is needed now, then so be it.

    The objective is for you to maintain stability and wellness.

    That is your first priority.
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    Post by 99 Wed Nov 30, 2022 7:09 am

    If all of that seems like an impossible task, then turn it over to the Lord to take care of things for you... and watch the miracles unfold.
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    Post by dan Wed Nov 30, 2022 12:24 pm

    Birds migrate south in the winter 🥶.

    They go with their youguns.
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    Post by GSB Wed Nov 30, 2022 5:42 pm

    Inter-personal communication ...

    In an experiment that ticks most of the mystery boxes in modern physics, a group of researchers announced on Wednesday that they had simulated a pair of black holes in a quantum computer and sent a message between them through a shortcut in space-time called a wormhole.

    Physicists described the achievement as another small step in the effort to understand the relation between gravity, which shapes the universe, and quantum mechanics, which governs the subatomic realm of particles.

    “This is important because what we have here in its construct and structure is a baby wormhole,” said Maria Spiropulu, a physicist at the California Institute of Technology and the leader of a consortium called Quantum Communication Channels for Fundamental Physics, which conducted the research. “And we hope that we can make adult wormholes and toddler wormholes step-by-step.”

    In their report, published Wednesday in Nature, the researchers described the result in measured words: “This work is a successful attempt at observing traversable wormhole dynamics in an experimental setting.”


    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/30/science/physics-wormhole-quantum-computer.html


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    Post by 99 Wed Nov 30, 2022 6:45 pm

    dan wrote:Birds migrate south in the winter 🥶.

    They go with their youguns.  

    Not if they're fighting the arctic blast of strong winds coming off the lake from Canada in my neck-of-the woods. Let's just say they'll never make it past the pastoral rolling hill's of Ohio to the foothill's of the Alleghany. At least not today.
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    Post by 99 Wed Nov 30, 2022 6:49 pm

    GSB, fascinating article. Very intriguing.
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    Post by U Wed Nov 30, 2022 7:37 pm


    VAJRA

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    Post by GSB Thu Dec 01, 2022 4:40 am

    Baby steps to Star Trek ...

    A holographic wormhole traversed in a quantum computer

    A system of nine quantum bits has been used to simulate a state known as a holographic wormhole, a concept that features in attempts to reconcile quantum mechanics with the general theory of relativity.


    https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-03832-z


    We invoke the holographic correspondence of the SYK many-body system and gravity to probe the conjectured ER=EPR [wormholes=quantum entanglement] relation between entanglement and spacetime geometry through the traversable wormhole mechanism as implemented in the SYK model. A qubit can be used to probe the SYK traversable wormhole dynamics through the corresponding teleportation protocol. This can be realized as a quantum circuit, equivalent to the gravitational picture in the semiclassical limit of an infinite number of qubits. Here we use learning techniques to construct a sparsified SYK model that we experimentally realize with 164 two-qubit gates on a nine-qubit circuit and observe the corresponding traversable wormhole dynamics.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-022-05424-3


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    Post by dan Thu Dec 01, 2022 4:49 am

    This is my all points bulletin…… directed in the first instance to Deborah Wheeler………

    I believe that most of us are in the process of coming onto the same page with respect to the process of Disclosure/Revelation that we will be undergoing for the foreseeable future.  

    I understand that you have ultimate authority over my physical presence, and that you have temporarily remanded my medical oversight to GBMC.  

    I am hopeful that you will be facilitating [the transfer of] my physical guardianship over to Aliyah, for the purpose of our being ensconced within the Southern Command of the United States, ostensibly under the command of the POTUS.  

    We’re only attempting to clarify a muddy situation.  

    …… facilitating the process of the transfer of my physical guardianship over to the Southern Command for approximately the next three weeks, as being mediated by Aliyah.  

    Thanks for your cooperation.
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    Post by GSB Thu Dec 01, 2022 4:56 am

    Note that the above research was courtesy of CALTECH and in that, there is Smithian / little chicken connection!

    (Or as I like to say, here come the Throops ;-)

    https://www.caltech.edu/map/landmark_ajax/563/history/details

    https://gw.geneanet.org/tdowling?lang=en&n=throop&oc=0&p=amos+gager


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    Post by GSB Thu Dec 01, 2022 5:45 am

    Popular account of the experiment:

    https://www.quantamagazine.org/physicists-create-a-wormhole-using-a-quantum-computer-20221130/


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    Post by 99 Thu Dec 01, 2022 9:20 am

    So sorry you're going through all of this now Dan but if this is what you need now, Aliyah's a good choice.







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    Post by 99 Thu Dec 01, 2022 9:28 am

    GSB, thanks for that quanta mag. link. Will read over the article later this evening. It's a fascinating topic!

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