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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:28 am

    First topic message reminder :

    This is the topic reminder post for Personalism 101.

    A good place to start is right here……. https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/personalism/

    My contention is that the BPWH = Personalism.

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    Post by dan Thu Dec 01, 2022 12:53 pm

    And just think 🤔, sports ⚽ 💗, some fine day, you will be able to tell your grandkids that, yes, indeed, once upon a time, you knew chicken little 🐣, when chick was just…. well, 🐣!!



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Dec 01, 2022 9:27 pm

    Dan Dan Dan

    Hide that crazy dude.

    But perhaps your ability to do so is beyond your grasp now.

    It’s cool.

    I love ya anyway.

    I’m too depressed to write much.

    I’m not going to argue with your reality, but I will say, no second coming is needed or first coming, we are always here.

    What or where is here, no one and I mean no one really knows in our current forms.

    If he was getting better 99, his fam wouldn’t be so freaked out.

    But he’s been saying this for years.

    They must have humored him, as I often do.

    So why the lock up now?

    Although, as I said previously, it’s seeming things have taken a pretty bad turn for our friend Dan.

    When his meds wear off he seems lucid, but I think he quickly might be reverting back into a psychotic state.

    Just relax Dan.

    Maybe keep the second coming stuff to yourself for awhile.

    I even prayed for you Dan and I haven’t done that for years.

    Smelly 🐐s don’t really pray 🙏

    It was a very short prayer and really not even a prayer.

    It was more a command for him to reverse his scrambled eggs.

    But physics says that’s not possible, so I guess he’s stuck.

    Who knows what reality tunnel GSB is trapped in.

    Not one I relate to mostly.

    I love science 🧪 as much as the next geek, but I also have one eye 👁️ open to the underside of being, which seems the right side up to me.

    I don’t imagine other realties or chase lights in the sky or have a mission or really believe what most people post on the Internet.

    I’m just here hanging out on the edge of the Universe hangin 10, ridin the big wave.

    Our present game has me fully occupied.

    I know better than to lose my mind.

    It’s kinda cool when you don’t have to be obsessed with the meaning of all this or the math.

    Then you can really have some fun.

    Muppets and their windmills.

    Shrug.
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    Post by dan Fri Dec 02, 2022 2:52 am

    0950zulu………

    I get out Monday morning, fer sure.  

    Throop and Debbie pick me up.  

    Then she and I will head out to his new place in West (by God!) Virginia for a couple of days.  

    Then I belong to the Princess and the Southern Command……. for three weeks.  

    Wish us luck…….

    There might be a private (sic) news briefing in Lima.  

    Then it’s a brave new world 🌎!!


    1050……….

    Gary………

    ER = EPR.  

    But, of course!!  

    Why the heck not?

    Everything = Everything!!



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    Post by GSB Fri Dec 02, 2022 6:42 am

    We are fully expecting Dan to pass safely through the wormhole and emerge fully intact on the other side! ;-)

    Wishing you the best, Dan!


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    Post by dan Fri Dec 02, 2022 6:50 am

    1350zulu/utc…………

    Gary,

    I’m thanking you, in advance, for the safe journey……… hold that firewall!!  


    1420………..


    WRT the Southern Command………

    I have a confession to make, Lord………

    It’s about Jack Sarfatti, Lord……..

    I have always been deeply envious of Jack’s photo of him staring out over his fleet of ships, from the bridge 🌁 of another, dressed in his navy fatigues.  

    Now, Lord willing, I’ll finally get to have my own little photo op.    

    Isn’t it about time, Lord?  

    Has chick 🐣’s ship 🚢 come in……. or has it already sailed?



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Dec 02, 2022 8:28 am

    Seems Dan is still lost in Never Never Land.

    Have fun 🤩 scrambled eggs.

    No one is in command of anything but themselves.

    A little fairy came by yesterday and whispered a secret in my ear.

    She said you are God hiding inside yourself.

    And so is everything else.

    I’ll be in my Garden sippin whiskey 🥃 sours with my Goddess.

    Who cares really what the rest of ya do.
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    Post by dan Fri Dec 02, 2022 4:50 pm

    Ya know, Chivo………

    Have you ever seen ‘On the Beach’?
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    Post by 99 Sat Dec 03, 2022 1:52 am

    chivo wrote:If he was getting better 99, his fam wouldn’t be so freaked out.

    Don't you think I don't already know that?

    And here's another thing... it's normal for loved ones to (as you put it) "freak out" in such situations. But they do so in their own unique ways.

    Let me say that again, it's normal.

    But in any case, everybody needs a little break.

    Great that Dan can go somewhere else during this process to attain wellness... whatever level and state it ends up being.

    C'est la vie!



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    Post by Cheguevoblin Sat Dec 03, 2022 3:15 am

    dan wrote:My stay at the hospital has been extended six day, apparently because I’m talking crazy 😜 about being the Second Coming.  

    I didn’t know it was illegal to say you’re the Second Coming.  

    I’m going to find out more with the arrival of the day shift.  

    Psychiatrists work bankers hours, compared to the rest of the hospital staff.  



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    Lmao 🤣

    Been there, done that

    You know what I learned?

    When in Rome, do as the Romans do

    😉

    Are you participating in the group activities?

    Those are a hoot!

    Bet you haven’t gone this long without your wine 🍷 for some time, eh?

    Good to detox

    I’m 2 weeks clean of the old green lady meself

    Those crazy time warping vivid dreams are back again

    Good times!
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    Post by dan Sat Dec 03, 2022 3:58 am

    Aaron/Ackbar,

    I’m glad for the Lmao 🤣.  

    As the circulation in my right foot was decreasing, earlier in the night, it occurred to me that the Navy would be the place to be.  

    The  Navy excells at amputations and peg legs.

    But then the blood 🩸 thinner started kicking in.

    So I’m back on course for the ‘Antarctic’, even without my peg 🦵.



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    Post by 99 Sat Dec 03, 2022 5:25 am

    "There is still time... brother"

    Hang in there Dan...
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Dec 03, 2022 11:13 am

    dan wrote:Ya know, Chivo………

    Have you ever seen ‘On the Beach’?

    While scrambled eggs is dreaming of apocalypse, I’m living my best life.

    It’s about quality, not quantity.

    Bring it.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Dec 03, 2022 11:15 am

    99 wrote:
    chivo wrote:If he was getting better 99, his fam wouldn’t be so freaked out.

    Don't you think I don't already know that?

    And here's another thing... it's normal for loved ones to (as you put it) "freak out" in such situations. But they do so in their own unique ways.

    Let me say that again, it's normal.

    But in any case, everybody needs a little break.

    Great that Dan can go somewhere else during this process to attain wellness... whatever level and state it ends up being.

    C'est la vie!




    I don’t know what you know.

    You put a nice spin on it at least.

    I wouldn’t call this wellness.

    He’s checked out.

    Sigh.

    Hard to watch.

    It would be more a blessing if he still wasn’t locked into his apocalypse spiral.

    Seems like torture to me.

    But if he is having fun, not the worst state of affairs I guess.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Dec 03, 2022 11:24 am

    Ackbar wrote:
    dan wrote:My stay at the hospital has been extended six day, apparently because I’m talking crazy 😜 about being the Second Coming.  

    I didn’t know it was illegal to say you’re the Second Coming.  

    I’m going to find out more with the arrival of the day shift.  

    Psychiatrists work bankers hours, compared to the rest of the hospital staff.  



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    Lmao 🤣

    Been there, done that

    You know what I learned?

    When in Rome, do as the Romans do

    😉

    Are you participating in the group activities?

    Those are a hoot!

    Bet you haven’t gone this long without your wine 🍷 for some time, eh?

    Good to detox

    I’m 2 weeks clean of the old green lady meself

    Those crazy time warping vivid dreams are back again

    Good times!

    Looney tunes unite!

    That green lady is a bitch!

    She pours green sticky syrup all over you.

    Fun times.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Dec 03, 2022 11:40 am

    I love Sabine.

    She calls bullshitz on all the religious scientist nuts GSB worships.

    We don’t know much.

    GSB is even more religious than 99.

    If GSB really understood physics he would talk about cool measurements.

    Buts that’s too boring, right.

    This is a very interesting video and about personalism in a way.

    If you watch it, you will know what I mean.

    See, there is no objective now in time.

    Now is personal and particular to each person.

    This is mystical and wonderful to me.

    If you let that sync in, it could lead to instant enlightenment.

    But most won’t make that connection.

    I think looney tunes know what I mean unconsciously, they appear so strange to other persons.

    While Dan has been trying to think his way out of being, he went crazy.

    This is not a bad thing actually, to him, things makes perfect sense.

    This crazy state isn’t conducive to relating to muppets in the normal way.

    We are all pretending to be apart of this illusory culture.

    Those insane can’t pretend anymore.

    Their minds seem to exist in the past, present and future at once.

    I can control entering and exiting this state of mind.

    But if I spent too long there like Dan and his friends, I’d go crazy probably too.

    Because Dan’s friends are mostly insane.

    This also seems to happen to anyone who spends too much time in never never land.

    Look at the trumpers and liberals.

    Look at the religious.

    Look at the ufo nuts.

    They appear insane to those outside of their tunnels.

    We can and should let all be as they are.

    We should not try to wake them up.

    They are awake unto themselves.

    We can only care for them, when they lose the ability to care for themselves.

    But some of us are outside of the cave and have more perspective, we can see how all these muppets are locked into their personal tunnels.

    We walk around them, poke them, and smell them.

    They are almost like statues.

    Our job is to care for humanity in a way.

    It is lonely if you stay in Plato’s cave.

    You have to go outside and just enjoy the sun.

    I am just noting how the world appears to me.

    I have to say, having been locked into a personal tunnel, I much prefer free ranging out in the sun.

    That’s really opening your mind.

    If you spend too much time crazy, you will be stuck there.

    But I think there are forces that can help us self correct.

    Crazy is a state of mind that can give perspective, it’s a tool for some.

    When you shift your awareness from the cave to the sun, I see now there is a rebalancing of all of this possible in the most joyful way.

    Of course I hope that for all.

    It took a lot of pain, suffering and work to crawl out of that cave.

    And it is sad in a way to survey the world and see how crazy it really is.

    Still, I love you.

    I love this world and the chance to know the sun and the cave.

    It isn’t tragic to me, it’s beautiful.

    So shine on you crazy diamonds.

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    Post by Cheguevoblin Sat Dec 03, 2022 10:11 pm

    That’s beautiful

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    Post by 99 Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:45 am

    The first thing that God said was "Let there be LIGHT and it was good".
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    Post by GSB Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:47 am

    Carlo Rovelli interview: "Reality is not things, but connections"



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    Post by 99 Sun Dec 04, 2022 7:44 am

    Anything with Carlo Rovelli in it is worth a watch.

    His revelations are revolutionary but put in such a way where everything he says makes sense.
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    Post by GSB Sun Dec 04, 2022 8:07 am

    Important reminder for all: Dan and CAL TECH are descendants of the same source ;-)

    https://authors.library.caltech.edu/25014/1/ThroopCollection.pdf

    CAL TECH: Physicists observe wormhole dynamics using a quantum computer
    November 30, 2022
    The research is a step toward studying quantum gravity in the lab

    https://www.caltech.edu/about/news/physicists-observe-wormhole-dynamics-using-a-quantum-computer


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    Post by dan Sun Dec 04, 2022 9:08 am

    1700zulu/utc………

    Yes, sports ⚽ 💗, precisely……. everything is connected at the Throop…… and we do mean everything!

    After all……..

    The Throop Principle and the Anthropic Principle are the same.

    Alpha = Omega.  

    The One = the Zero = the Everything.


    1830……

    And, hey, don’t go away, we’re just getting started…….

    I was trying to think of where to start…….

    I was going to say Anthro Tully.  

    But, of course, it’s not.  

    It is Jethro Tull…….
    Cross-eyed Mary goes jumping in again
    She signs no contract
    But she always plays the game
    She dines in hampstead village
    On expense accounted gruel
    And the jack-knife barber drops her off at school
    See what I mean……!!

    Here we go, back to the Source…….

    The Parmenidean One, which is the same as the Pratityasamutpada.

    Tell me I’m wrong 😑!  

    ER = EPR …… it’s the same darn thing.  

    You just have to know where to start threading 🧵 the needle 🪡…… chick 🐣!


    2000………


    With the First and Second Coming….. it’s the same thing…… you can’t understand the one without the other.  

    Then just keep pulling that thread 🧵…… and the cosmos will fall right into your lap!

    Yes, the best possible cosmos will fall right into your lap.

    Is that too easy?

    Why didn’t someone else figure it out before chick 🐣?  

    Go figure!  

    chick 🐣 had more than a little help from the Princess 👸……. Entanglement and all that.    



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    Post by 99 Tue Dec 06, 2022 5:27 am

    The Second Coming

    Turning and turning in the widening gyre
    The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
    Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
    Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
    The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
    The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
    The best lack all conviction, while the worst
    Are full of passionate intensity.

    Surely some revelation is at hand;
    Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
    The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
    When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
    Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert
    A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
    A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
    Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
    Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
    The darkness drops again; but now I know
    That twenty centuries of stony sleep
    Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
    And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
    Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?
    W.B.Yeats
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    Post by 99 Tue Dec 06, 2022 5:32 am

    "The Second Coming" is a poem written by Irish poet W. B. Yeats in 1919, first printed in The Dial in November 1920, and afterwards included in his 1921 collection of verses Michael Robartes and the Dancer. The poem uses Christian imagery regarding the Apocalypse and Second Coming to allegorically describe the atmosphere of post-war Europe. It is considered a major work of modernist poetry and has been reprinted in several collections, including The Norton Anthology of Modern Poetry. wiki

    Joni Mitchell set every word of this poem to music. Name of the song is "Slouching Towards Bethlehem".

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Tue Dec 06, 2022 11:49 am

    “Scrambled eggs” Dan is back to his old ways, I mean that in love Smile

    My work on OMF is a form of artistic expression.

    I let the work speak for itself.

    But this may seem disrespectful of the themes and views folks on OMF very personally dialogue about.

    I assure you, no disrespect is meant.

    My art if my most personal expression.

    It’s an act of creative madness.

    My deliberate madness mixes with others’ here and something strange is born.

    The Human Condition is marked by our attempts to control what can’t be.

    I am fascinated by the evolving narratives in the world today.

    They speak so much about our fear and anger at our lack of control.

    It terrifies us.

    Let it be known I feel Dan and his friends are very unwell.

    I don’t think there is an objective sane and insane.

    What makes someone unwell?

    Their ability to dialogue and respect the expressions of others, even what may be considered disagreeable.

    To me, anyone “locked in” to a world view or mission in the case of Dan and his friends, are very much unwell to my sensibilities.

    All views and experience spring from the same source in my view.

    When a muppet clings to a particular view, they are unwell.

    As much as we would like, we can’t delete all we find disagreeable in the world.

    Appreciating all that comes your way seems very well to me.

    The Guest House

    “This being human is a guest house.
    Every morning a new arrival.

    A joy, a depression, a meanness,
    some momentary awareness comes
    as an unexpected visitor.

    Welcome and entertain them all!
    Even if they’re a crowd of sorrows,
    who violently sweep your house
    empty of its furniture,
    still, treat each guest honorably.
    He may be clearing you out
    for some new delight.

    The dark thought, the shame, the malice,
    meet them at the door laughing,
    and invite them in.

    Be grateful for whoever comes,
    because each has been sent
    as a guide from beyond.“

    —Rumi

    One’s tolerance of others I think is a very good measure of their mental health.

    If you look out at the world today using that rubric, you see a lot of insanity being slung around.

    It seems we are trending toward mental illness on massive scales.

    The UFO, religious, and political obsessions bubbling up are building to something big big big.

    I’m at ground zero of the end of an age and birth of something new I realize.

    I think to pick a side is to contribute to what I call our “Great Decline.”

    But we fall to rise.

    I will be gentle with the old man.

    I do not wish to torment Dan, neither will I blindly humor him.

    I hope you have been able to fly from the cuckoos nest back to your home roost.

    All my love to chick 🐣

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