Personalism 101

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A good place to start is right here……. https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/personalism/

My contention is that the BPWH = Personalism.

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Smelly El Chivo wrote:

GSB wrote:And then there was The Beast:

There is no one really here, so this is funny, who is being tracked?

And no, you shouldn't be worried, there is no one here to worry about anyway.

Haha, dumb muppets thinking they are real.

When you have the key to the universe, things sure do get simple.

Smelly if I were to come up on you unnoticed and pinched your skin on the back of the neck, hard enough to draw blood, would you jump? Tell the truth.

We're real enough in our living context. Everything matters. Only a masochist would say "hit me again, I'm not real".

That'd be like saying to Dan, you don't need eyes. Or Ron, you don't need to travel. Or 99, you don't need music. Or U, you don't need a soul. Because none of it is real.

Cy

I could care less who tracks anything.

There is no privacy or anything to hide, but our ignorance.

Laughable.

Just as laughable are people who pick tribes and a political view.

No prison could hold me.

And no, this isn’t real.

And we know we don’t experience reality from a metaphysical or physical point of view.

You only get an imagined desktop your brain paints for you, it fills in and makes up a lot.

Matter is an illusion.

Physicists have already proved locality is an illusion and not real.

Follow the bouncing ball Cy.

The blood and pain is just an illusion.

As are your ego and personality and every belief you have.

As is power and control.

All fake news.

Thought is the jailor.

The Logos is the key.

The body is just a vessel.

The mind is a limitation.

We can agree to disagree.

That’s cool about life.

Everyone can have their own view and believe whatever bullshit they like.

But to imagine we have it all figured out is silly.

I know that I don’t know.

Still, I’m not gonna go walk off a cliff, but I’ll also never pick a side.

The world is full of ignorant dumb muppets picking sides, seeking only their own gain.

Fearful, angry and greedy.

There are only a few lights.

Stay close to those, even better, be one.

Max explains how to test the many worlds theory:

What is not fake news is the concept of the primordial person (PP) from whom we are all descended……. with whom we are all soulmates.  

We may take this to the cosmic bank.

The jguy had the inside track on the PP.

chick is not too far off that mark.

Mark my words.

three and I are having another falling out over abortion.

It has to do with personhood.

There is no such thing as zygotehood.

Sorry, Princess.



(cont………)

There were 3 things written on the Temple of Apollo at Delphi according to the Greek writer Pausanias.

Know Thyself

Nothing to Excess

and…

Certainty Brings Insanity

Is it true what Socrates said, “The unexamined life is not worth living.”

It has been for me.

I would add to that statement or maybe even replace it.

It is in the fully living, not just the thinking about life, I have found the most value.

An unexplored life is not worth living.

Explore the space, we can always have more cow bell

Do I expect to witness any phenomena on the upcoming trip south?

I never have.  I don’t expect this to depart from the norm.  

Would I be shocked otherwise?

I count on the Entanglement.  

Entanglement is largely about normalizing the abnormal.

I’m happy to provide a ground wire.



(cont……..)

Really, you are travelin again?

Maybe relax my dude and enjoy your old age

Just an idea.

Have fun.

https://thedebrief.org/the-strange-tale-of-russias-ufo-wonder-weapons-based-on-new-physical-principles/

According to the official, in the late 1970s and 1980s, Soviet intelligence services believed that persons interested in paranormal topics like psychics, ghosts, or UFOs were “mentally weak” and highly susceptible to malign influence.

“The KGB and Chekist had formal programs targeting persons who held security clearances or worked around classified programs, who also had an interest in UFOs, psychics, etc. We know this for a fact,” the official explained.

“Honestly, a lot of the UFO lore likely emerged from these battles between Soviet intelligence and US counterintelligence that were going on in the shadows in the 1980s.”

The Debrief reached out to the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) to see if records were available for what sounds like a fascinating tale of espionage, counter-espionage, and UFOs. In response, the CIA said it could “neither confirm nor deny” that any records of such activities existed.

The agency’s official history, The CIA’s Role in the Study of UFOs, 1947-90, does appear to offer a subtle confirmation of these KGB vs. CIA UFO spy games.

“Agency analysts from the Life Science Division of OSI and OSWR officially devoted a small amount of their time to issues relating to UFOs,” the report notes. “These included counterintelligence concerns that the Soviets and the KGB were using US citizens and UFO groups to obtain information on sensitive US weapons development programs (such as the Stealth aircraft), the vulnerability of the US air-defense network to penetration by foreign missiles mimicking UFOs, and evidence of Soviet advanced technology associated with UFO sightings.”

1430zulu/gmt…….

Gary,

Can portals be weaponized?

I’m skeptical.  

Nonetheless, I would not deny that anomalous phenomena…… that metaphysical phenomena can and do spill over into the physical regime.  

Immaterialism = non-physicalism.  

Everything is mental…… in the first instance.  

We are figments of the imagination of the cosmic mind.  

It is the interpersonal entanglements that give rise to the simulacrum of a physical regime.  

Physics provides our level playing field…… the ground under our feet.  

Planetary physics is simply the logical extension of the level playing field.  

Otherwise, you have to impose arbitrary limits.  

What is a sky without stars?  

Without the Sun , we would have sunlamps.  

And where did our metabolism come from, if not from evolution?  

Which came first, our stomachs or the Big Macs?  

One is tempted to fall back onto Pratityasamutpada!  


1830……..

Atoms are dim reflections of persons.

What is metabolism a reflection of?  

Metabolism makes human Creation possible…… and what could possibly be more important in all of Creation……. than our Recreation (sic!).  

But it is crucial to keep in mind that Persons come before metabolism, to the extent that Pratityasamutpada allows such priority.  

Yes, I have always touted a multiple personality ‘disorder’ on a cosmic scale.  

How better to explain the Trinity?!

‘After’ the Trinity comes the Olympiad.  

Only ‘later’ do space and time hove into view.  

Then comes the ball game…… pokatok…… talk about level playing field!  

That ball is our first interpersonal ‘object’.  

Can atoms be far behind?  



(cont……..)

Alright scrambled eggs.

You are on your own.

Have fun playing with your friends.

I hope you find the Mothership.

Don’t forget the ones who love you.

I see right through you Dan.

You are running.

I feel you are in great pain.

As GSB is.

I know you can’t really hear me, still.

Good luck.

1030zulu/gmt………

Chivo,

And I may need a bit of luck .  

As a candidate, donny gets to choose an officer.  

It’s a no brainer…… foot 🦶.  

He’s not so happy with chick , but Princess insists, despite all the zygotery, etc.  

Yes, he is the legitimate president, Joe is not, according to the script.  

I guess it’s not illegal to harbor such a belief.  

What this has to do with the antipodes is not entirely clear.

I will not get a briefing until John gives me clearance, which may be hard to come by…… for a blogging blasphemer.  

Truth is not easily won……. until it is……. in our face.  

That would be Disclosure Day, if such a day were to come.  


1230………..

Does the chick not aid and abet?

The chick renders unto Caesar.  

The best possible world comes with a ‘real politic’ attached.  

Creation is dirty work, but somebody………..
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We can hardly mention atoms, without mentioning the Logos Spermatikos.  

What are seeds about?  Who ordered them?  

How is the Source not also a seed?  

What is the One, if it is not such?

What is love , if it is not such…… the heart of the matter?  


2310………

NYT…….. The ‘Twin Peaks’ Theme Isn’t Just a Song. It’s a Portal.
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What are persons, if not microcosms?  

We are the Johnny Appleseeds of the Cosmos.  

Could it have been otherwise?  

Did God have a choice?  



0000………..

It is alleged that the Princess still loves me, even she doesn’t have time to talk to me.  

Ok.
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“Logos ... had long been one of the leading terms of Stoicism, chosen originally for the purpose of explaining how deity came into relation with the universe".

I would suggest that the Logos is the heart of Pratītyasamutpāda.

Logos can, in the Alpha and Omega, be nothing other than love.

And how do we unpack this irreducible state of affairs?



(cont……..)

0120zulu/gmt……….

What the logos helps to demonstrate is that personalism is universal.  

The Greeks knew this……. particularly Parmenides.  

Why then did we need the jguy?

The Greeks were essentially personalists.
 
Someone had to put a limit on personhood.  

Yes, persons are essentially transpersonal.  

Well, we are interpersonal.  

What the jguy did, more than anything else, was to personalize and personify God……. irreversibly, irrevocably.  

God would never be able to lord it over us again.

God was irrevocably one of us.  

God nailed Jesus…….. no.  

Jesus nailed God!

To accomplish this, the jguy had to rupture history.  

It would have been impossible, single-handedly.

That’s why the Trinity is central.  

It is the cosmic entanglement…… all centered on historical persons…… why the Second Coming is essential.  

Why the Eschaton is essential.  

Why some rendition of chick is essential.  

Will it be smitty?  

All we have to understand is that it could be.  

Yes, it’s all a cosmic conspiracy……. all that chick has to do is act naturally.  

I have more than a little trepidation about some rendezvous in the south.  

3.5 might have to hold my hand.  I’ll try to be brave.  

If nothing appears to happen at all, that will not alter what is already written in the stars .  

The antipodes will have been crossed.  


0250……….

The scientific establishment will have been hoist on the petard of personalism.  

Someone had to be in the wrong place, at the wrong time….. chick .

There had to be the three visitors……. the core of the core story.  

There was never the slightest bit of competition or confusion.  

Ask anyone.  

It’s all over, but for the mercifully delayed reaction.

It was all about the historical entanglements of the Trinity.

The faithful never had a doubt.  

The rest of us had to have our noses rubbed in the history…… including, especially, chick !  
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And who’s afraid of ChatGPT?

Who’s to say that entanglement is not just about neutral nets?

The self of neutral nets has to be cranked in.

It is superficial, if not entirely superfluous.

The cosmic self, on the other hand, easily entails the ultimate sacrifice.

No questions asked.

It’s just like breathing.

It comes more naturally than breathing.

You don’t believe me.

You’ll see.



(cont…….)

For me, Heraclitus was closer to One than Parmenides and he said, everything changes and nothing stands still, you can’t unscramble eggs.

I may have added the scrambled eggs part.

2150zulu/gmt……..

The Greeks understood the concept of Truth, like none other.  

They only managed to personify Truth, implicitly.  

The jguy, with the help of some chick , will do so, explicitly.  
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Of course, we can unscramble the Egg.

What else is a microcosm good for?  

They all just reflect the One……. in the End.  

And there is only one Mirror.  

Yes, we look for the One in all the wrong places.  

That’s what history is all about.  


0120……..

The One is the cosmic Self, which is indistinguishable from our innermost self……. in the End.  

We all recognize this on some level, instinctively, but we have developed very elaborate arguments to obfuscate the simple truth.  

Creation goes to great lengths to obscure the handiwork of the cosmic Self.  

Why this Deception?  

The Grand Deception leads to the Great Apostasy.  

The original and correct interpretation of the Great Apostasy was that it was not to occur until the Endtimes, and define the reign of the Antichrist.  

The reign of the Antichrist is synonymous with the reign of materialism.  

The Antichrist is not a person……. it is the reign of the impersonal.  

Perhaps it is best understood as the reign of Atomic terror…… as we stand on the precipice of blowing ourselves to smithereens…….. chick !  


0230……..

Is the possibility of nuclear annihilation just another modern illusion?  

Basically, yes.  

How do we explain Hiroshima?

About the same way we explain the Holocaust.

Are the neo-Nazis correct in claiming it to have been a hoax?

No, but Hitler was a cosmic tool…… not unlike my participation in the Las Vegas incident.



(cont……..)

There may be something unchanging, some abstractly call it Will or Oversoul.

Some have sagely advised to get to know and stay close to Will.

I find this good advice.

It isn’t in the speaking about truth you know will, it is the acting upon it.

I assure you someone close to cosmic will would never pick up a gun and kill 70+ people randomly.

I would suggest RP lied to you about your involvement.

Anyone who planned such a thing is just operating from delusion.

There are no such cosmic plans any human could ever comprehend.

That was an act of insanity, embodying chaos.

Tell yourself whatever lies about cosmic Will you like.

The closer you get to the center, the more things fall into place.

Out on the edge or in the shadows, sure, there are eddies of chaos.

If you want to live in chaos with scrambled eggs, have at it.

Ultimately, I can’t judge what happens or who does anything.

The journey to know thyself is to release one from delusion.

One must root up fixed beliefs, not set them in the stone of assurance.

That way leads to scrambled eggs.

Though we have one assurance, what was born, will die.

Anyone who thinks they know where they are going or what will happen, doesn’t.

They can guess and offer all the opinion they like.

I sleep warm and calm at night.

“If you don’t know where you’re going, any road will get you there.”

—Lewis Carroll

Amor Fati

Just dropping in to say hi. It's been a busy holiday season for me (big family, parties etc... and a lot of shopping too) but I'll drop in this evening to catch up with everything.

Thanks, 99, for stopping by the outpost.  

A merry Christmas to you and to everyone who is so inclined.
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Chivo,

Thank you for interjecting the Oversoul into these proceedings.  

It does sound rather impersonal……. just the antidote to the jguy.  

It makes reference to Brahman.  

It’s the cosmic Self, without the self.  

It is the One.  

It is the binding unity.  

Ok, it is the Transpersonal.  

How is the Transpersonal not also the Interpersonal?  

We have the microcosm and the macrocosm.  

Who’s to say that the Transpersonal does not form the core of the personal?  

The person is such that it can assimilate the Other

Nothing can escape the cosmic Attractor that is Love.  

The event horizon of love is infinity……. in all it’s mental glory.

Infinity has only ever been a mental construct.



(cont……..)

Ron Pandolfi is a mean man and I don't particularly care for him.

U,

Under one interpretation of the R&D show, foot 🦶 has to be the bad cop, so that chick gets to be the good cop.

In the best possible world, there is still a balance within Nature.  

I’m more worried about Vladimir at this point than I am about Ron.

We are still operating under the aegis of the Katechon.  

The Katechon holds sway until the Revelation.  

As to how abrupt or dramatic Revelation will be…… I don’t have that information.  That would be information Omega.  

Even at this late date, I keep leaning out for eschatological restraint.

Why are social media in place, if they have no role to play in the mediation of the Eschaton?

It’s equally difficult to imagine that the tyrants of the world have no role to play……. and I believe they know who they are.  

The ‘reassembly’ of the Alpha.……. I’m doubtful that this will come about as the result of a popularity contest.  

This reconstitution is already ordained…… sub specie aeternitatis.  

We are in the process of undergoing our closest encounter with the Eschaton……. our darkest hour.  

The darkness will distract from……. will camouflage…. the increasingly porous or fluid nature of reality.

Specific anomalies will not be easy to pin down.  

The entanglements will continue to strengthen.  

Much of the drama will remain in the psychological domain.    

The Truth of personhood may be slow to be recognized, but it will become the guiding star.  

In the meantime, ethnic divisions are liable to be filling the vacuum left by the remnants of capitalism, secular humanism and our many varieties of fundamentalism.

How does it go……..

The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

(cont……..)

The Revelation has already occurred and your friends certainly don’t have it.

The reason I say that is because the Light cannot be hidden.

It cannot be contained, it kinda bursts out of every pore.

It has always been right before us, under our noses.

Never hidden.

It is what we are.

We have been hiding from IT in these shells.

Hiding from our Self.

Did Jesus shut up and hide?

Did he run away?

Didn’t he bring Good News?

It wasn’t to hate your neighbor or stop them at the border.

It wasn’t to bomb your neighbor.

Those who hide in shadows are not to be trusted.

Those who bomb, will be bombed.

What you send out, comes back.

Judge thyself.

Know thyself.

Then you will not bombing anything.

Because you will know what you do to others, you do to yourself.

One can only trust thyself and only after going through the crucible and having the dross melted away.

We are in the midst of a Great Melting Away.

The mold is being broken.

While muppets point to the sky and endlessly speculate about outer space and first contact, others have had contact with inner space.

Guess which is real?

It is not a matter of belief.

We do not need to convince anyone of anything.

What will be, will be.

What is, is.

If not now, when?

If not me, who?

With those two questions and facing and digesting the answers, you can open the cosmos.

Open Sesame!

But the translation is mangled from French, a better translation is…

“Sesame, open yourself!”

Mountain opens to magic formula.

You have to do your own work and figure it out, not figure it out.

HA!

Guess what’s inside?

I’m not tellin, well, I kinda already did.

The fun is in the BOOM

When you see it, it will seem like a Fusion bomb imploding inwards.

Keep at it muppets!

Yes, Chivo has discovered the great mystery of the Kingdom…….. it is both already and not yet.

The ‘not yet’ part he is coming to gradually……. that’s alright, we have all the time in the world.

As we approach page 40…….. I’m switching to Personalism 102……..

Here you go Dan, happy holidays!

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