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First topic message reminder :

We really shouldn’t forget the old mnemonic postings....... https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t236p425-hello-cy-omf-ii-part-2  

Here’s a partial glossary for the mnemonics....... https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t251p700-hello-cy-omf-ii-part-2 .... scroll down.....

Don’t forget other topics pages.......  

https://bestpossibleworld.com/index06.htm

https://bestpossibleworld.com/aAquarium/content.html

https://best-possible.fandom.com/wiki/Best_Possible_Wiki


Here’s more mnemonics...... https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t236p425-hello-cy-omf-ii-part-2

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Ok ,

Yes, even the I Am has need of a helpmate....... we, Creatures, are the Helpmates.

We merely need to acknowledge that there is that of the I Am..... in every last one of us.

Someone is needed to remind us of that fact.  

Smelly El Chivo wrote:The world for me Dan, now, is just the right size

I can fill the space and relax.

I wish the same for all.

Yes, we were promised a Millennium.......

But that was two Millenniums ago.  

Would you also like to have egg in your beer ?  

The clock will be stopped when the fat lady sings......

But not a second before.  

After the fat lady sings, we are on borrowed time......l

From then on.........

....... woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

In other words, after Disclosure, there will be no more of us coming into the world....... we will only be exiting..... one way or the other.  

And, yes, the Princess is back in the loop ........

The only exceptions will be for those of us hugging the trees for dear life.  



(cont........)

I can’t relate to some things you think about.

Whatever this is, it is happening.

I kind of stop there.

Nature calls to us to deepen our cooperation with each other and to realize we are nature.

I am responding.

Ally yourself with this.

That’s all I know.

A fool passes this by.

A fool merrily walks off the cliff smelling the flowers.

The things we claim to own, own us.

It is unnatural to ‘own’ something.

What we assert control over, controls us.

This is a real balancing act.

We are stewards.

My daimon doesn’t sleep.

We have a life to care for.

A home.

Family.

Work.

A beautiful bountiful world.

Take care of these things is what nature showed me.

I can’t relate to a nameless force.

Nature is here now showing it all to us.

I can only speak as a witness.

Listen.

So much is being communicated to us.

Learn the cycles of life.

Flow with them.

Have fun.

Nature seems cruel, but only to selfish

Life seems hard, but only to ones wishing for more.

Life is discovered.

The Undiscovered Country has been found.

“For who would bear the whips and scorns of time,
Th' oppressor's wrong, the proud man's contumely,
The pangs of despised love, the law's delay,
The insolence of office, and the spurns
That patient merit of th' unworthy takes,
When he himself might his quietus make
With a bare bodkin? Who would fardels bear,
To grunt and sweat under a weary life,
But that the dread of something after death,
The undiscovered country from whose bourn
No traveler returns, puzzles the will
And makes us rather bear those ills we have
Than fly to others that we know not of?”

—Hamlet

Be thankful for what you have, all of it.

Live now in it.

You have no idea what might or might not come.

This seems profoundly obvious, even to a dumb smelly goat.

I am speaking to myself.

Thanks, Chivo,

I’ll take that for a ‘yes,......’.

Would anyone else care to chime in?  

Speak now, or forevermore hold your peace .......

Quoth the Raven, ‘Nevermore’.

For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.

(cont........)

Straight on.

And damn the torpedoes.......

I must confess, I am not by my own hand living life alone as an Ubermensch.

Apes have funny thoughts and do silly things.

We poke our fingers in places we shouldn’t.

And our minds.

I have found I can have no faith ultimately in ideas, ideologies, politics, philosophies or reason alone.

I cannot even have faith that my thoughts and senses are my own.

What’s a muppet to do with no where to hide?

*POOF*

We can get very angry with no faith or belief.

That’s a dangerous muppet in a precarious state balancing on the head of a pin.

This is your lefty and righty in our world.

I must confess, ironically, I have found the greatest faith at the end of all my beliefs.

Why I am so smelly.

I think I’m only learning that only with faith can our support come, in things seen and unseen.

I rejected all my beliefs, spewed them out of my mouth, with the poison that had dissolved them.

I found I had a monster inside me and I tried to stop it, but I couldn’t.

A Great snake

I was wrestling with it.

I sought it out or it called me, maybe both.

This side of eternity, who better to talk to?

It bit my heel and I lost all belief in life and in my ideas and image and senses.

It filled me with poison.

Total destruction.

That was my only path to faith.

Kinda crazy.

I don’t advise wrestling with snakes, but maybe it’s best to go look for and wrestle with a

Best to avoid them and keep a healthy respect ️

With no beliefs, everything you are is exposed to light.

But something was lurking behind all that.

Stalking me.

Before me.

Much bigger than me.

It has always terrified me.

I think that poison was also a balm.

For me, this poison was psychedelics.

And they are poisons.

That poison and experience of ego death can be a trigger.

You may get a glimpse of your true light.

I think many things in life can dissolve one’s hold on their small view.

It is violent.

Like splitting an atom and great energy is released.

And in this light, you can find your faith again.

A deeper faith in life.

In yourself.

In others.

You realize true life comes in total devotion.

By getting into the greatest trouble.

If you don’t love this, how could you know it?

And just like that, the color will come back into your life and you will see rainbows.

These experiences dissolved my grasp on my illusions and my beliefs.

It exposed every belief I had as false.

Showed me how small I was and had been thinking.

How selfish and foolish I was being.

There is no escape.

Mind is all we got.

And it’s a big mind.

Losing my beliefs and religion maybe meant there was nothing of value left.

I despaired.

I have not called out from the bottom of my heart once, but I have many times.

And I was always heard in my view of things.

I suppose I have seen that faith grow in a very sneaky undercurrent kind of way.

I feel as if the deep water, has reached on shore and pulled me off my feet and dragged me into the depths and shook me around like a rag doll.

The serpent dragged me deep under.

Struggling to breathe and then feeling like I let my life go, I felt I took my first real breath.

It was disorienting.

And then just this

It’s alright with me.

A UFO 🛸 experience must be another form of poison, but it is poison.

It does its work and then you have to let go.

We take ourselves way too seriously.

About 15 years after my scrape with Sophia, I went to wrestle with the best serpent that the cia had to offer.  The jury is still out....... but I have plead my case with my goddaughter.

Maybe the defense can rest.

I am not the Cheese Man. I am not the Bees Man. I am the Foot Man. Come on Man. What happened to Dan Man.

I’m talking to Kieth........ explaining your modus operandi.....

Someone has to straddle the no-Man’s land between church and state.  

You exist in uncharted territory.
........

Kieth continues to maintain that the most likely explanation for the Ron&Dan show is that I am his plaything.  

Chivo agrees that this is what most folks believe.  
.........


To Kieth........

Any non-skeptical conclusion would be very risky for you professionally...... and go against your worldview.

There is no upside for you, and a big downside.

(cont........)

1210z........

Oh, dear,

What’s happening?  

I don’t believe anything I see, here....... especially not the numbers, but still, I can’t help but see the stats several times a day......... anyway.  

I just hope Cyrellys doesn’t spend it all in one place.  
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Yesterday, it was Keith’s turn to feel sorry for little chick ........ bless his materialist heart.

Today, we’ll see it we can return the favor........

Keith’s only problem is that he doesn’t have a story, which can be a problem for a journalist, especially a freelance one.

I believe that he started out to do an exposé of the New York Times...... you know, tic tac and all that.

You only had to take a second look at it, and it would start unraveling.

Maybe Keith should have quit while he was ahead........ it’s not every day that a gumshoe gets to give the Gray Lady a black eye.  

Keith was only filled with more valor........ discretion went out the window.  

Keith was going to be the mop up crew for the juggernaut of scientific materialism....... and there was only one man left standing..... foot 🦶.  

If the Gray Lady was such a push over, how much tougher could foot be?  

While he was at it, he might as well finish the job.  

Hmmm........ .... how do we spell T.A.R.B.A.B.Y?

After several months on this cleanup job, he still hasn’t been able to determine if foot works for the government.  

A person could easily spend several years, and still not be able to determine that.  

Hey, foot’s my sorta guy.  
...........

Oh, good, that’s a relief ...... we’re back down to 9 of us on OM.  

For a minute there, I thought the stink here was attracting flies.  

I’ll bet what actually happened is that our stats man fell asleep at the switch...... for a few minutes.  

In the meantime I had a semi revealing conversation with Keith.......  

Bottom line...... Keith has no clue...... and that is true of everyone who has ever called themselves a materialist.  


1400.........

Bottom line....... we now own this story...... hook 🪝, line and sinker.  

Is this the greatest story ever told or what?   That, now, is the only question.  

Would you care for my two cents........?  Never mind.  


So, yes, Keith admitted that at one point he was going to do an exposé on the Times.

But that turned out to be too easy.

At that point he might stopped and asked..... wait a minute...... why is the times such an easy pushover?  

But, no, our boy, Keith, just kept on pushing...... all the way to the tar baby.

The tar baby has a lot of sticky connections.  

I named one of them....... Dick d’Amato....... no clue.  

The Dick d’A story is a bit like the Adm Wilson story........ top money person gets the cold shoulder, when it comes to Ufos 🛸.  

I gather that Keith barely has a clue about the Aviary........ some old geezers out to make a few bucks off of the ufo suckers.  


1500........

Keith has his hand on one end of the stick...... the phenomenology end.  

There is another end to that stick....... the end of hope.  

What does hope have to do with phenomenology?  

Just about everything.  

Materialism is the end of hope....... almost by definition.  

Well, the hope of materialism is to get the heck out of Dodge.... ASAP.

Now, Keith will admit that the silly human race may be in dire straits...... but materialists don’t believe that, deep down.  

If they really believed that, deep down, they might look our materialist gift horse in the mouth.  

I did, some fifty years ago...... that’s where I found the Anthropic Principle.  

I’ve not looked back, since.  

Like all the other ‘sane’ people in the world, he glides along the surface, even though he fancies himself to be an investigative reporter.  

He doesn’t know the difference between a tar baby and a straw man.  

chick needs to take Keith to school ..... but on who’s dime?  

Folks get handed to me on a silver platter..... just ask Chivo.  

I don’t look the gift horse in the mouth.  

And we all have to have a little bit of hope to get up in the morning.  

Even materialists have to find hope, somewhere...... or they would never be able to get out of bed.

Yes, we can be paranoid for twenty three hours and fifty-nine minutes, but, for that one minute before midnight , we’re gonna be pronoid...... or we’d have to kill ourselves.  

So, Keith doesn’t realize that the stick he’s grabbed onto has another end.  

What’s at the other end?  

Well, it’s been made very easy....... it’s a very short stick.  

foot 🦶 is at one end, and chick is at the other end.  

Yes, foot is where phenomenology goes to die.  

chick is where phenomenology is reborn.  

Yes, that Times story, several years ago, was sucker bait....... and was Keith the first sucker to show up?  

Was he the first one to see that it was a house of cards?  

Well, he was the first one to be hired to make a public issue out of it.  

The question he’s not asking is why would the Times put out such a transparent story.  

We have to remember that FTGM, my erstwhile buddy, believes there is something serious behind it.  

He knows, because he was set up to interview Fravor.  

FTGM was actually the first sucker..... just don’t tell Bill that I told you that.  

foot disagrees with FTGM on this point.  


Now we have the QAnon story....... six episodes on HBO.....

Was foot also into that story?  

That’s what he told me.  I’m sure that Keith would have none of it.

Keith knows that he’s not minding the store.  

And that is the problem...... nobody is.  

That is our best possible problem...... and it has the best possible solution.............  


1740............

So what else can we say about the R&D stick?  

What about MJ12?  

foot would have to know if something like mj12 exists, and how to access it.  

Should Keith extend his story to include mj12?  

If there is phenomenology problem, there would have to be an mj12.  

Ok, but, Keith doesn’t believe in phenomenology.  

My point is that even if Phenomenology didn’t exist, there would still have be an mj12.  

Why?  Simple.........

Even if Phenomenology doesn’t exist, no one can prove it.  

National security has to deal with contingencies.  

If there ever were phenomena, they could possibly be weaponized.  

Ergo....... mj12 exists.  

But it’s even simpler......

As long as people believe in phenomena, those beliefs could be weaponized........ ergo, mj12 exists.  

Should that fact be of any general interest?  


1920........

Meanwhile....... what about MJ12?  

That’s the only information that Ron would have that would amount to something

:Hoax:

Try that out on me
Can you prove that phenomenology cannot be weaponized?  
How much national security would you be willing to wager on your negative assessment?  
Those responsible for national security probably would want to investigate that issue.  

The results of those investigations would come under the purview of some group that could be labeled as MJ12
Are you suggesting that no one has bothered to investigate, other than crazy people?  
You have a hunch that phenomenology is a fantasy.

Do you have any sources?  

How much should the national defense community wager on your hunches....... on your sources?  
They might have their own hunches and sources.  

Have they been made public?  

Should they be?  

Would Ron know about any of this?  
I used the name MJ12

And [you] give the knee jerk response.  

Are there no think tanks that are responsible to be just a bit more...... deliberate about these issues?  
If you talk about me and Ron without  considering these larger issues......

There are plenty of thoughtful folks who would be less than impressed

Yes, folks, we are talking state of the art in journalism.  


1940.........

So what do we think is going on here?  

Is wired taking a cheap shot at the Times?  

Why would the times put itself in the position of having to receive a cheap shot?  

Are we dealing with the trickster?  

Is a message being sent........ by whom and to whom?

In this instance, the times is not actually reporting...... it is just allowing itself to be used as the messenger...... of public record.  


2040..........

So we see where the materialists have their heads at, and it’s not terribly impressive.



(cont............)

This Keith guy would better serve the public by explaining why 50% of republican idiots won't take a vaccine!

I mean, I detest these disgusting politics, propagated with a smirk.

I don't like identity politics either but the left isn't anywhere as stupid as the right wing morons.

It doesn't matter what you tell them, they won't listen.

They want blood, they want violence, they are tired of waiting for Gadot.

I'm tired of all of it.

Pastors are leaving churches because their congregations are brainwashed by QAnon.

QAnon, the easiest conspiracy in the world to see is a lie.

We are a very very stupid race.

I guess this is the best we can do for now.

A tragic comedy.

There is no vaccine.
There is an untested mrna altering synthetic drug injection.
I for one rely upon My own immune system.
If others don't mind what is injected into themselves that is their choice.
hobbit

dan wrote:So we see where the materialists have their heads at, and it’s not terribly impressive.  

Don't kid yourself Dan, you're a materialist.  You are sitting at a computer, typing.  You take medication.  You drive a car.  You watch TV. You live in a material world whether you choose to acknowledge it or not.  Your disregard for science and materialism is hypocritical and you will continued to be discredited until you come to terms with this.   Own your own stuff and stop pointing the finger - you are a product of a materialistic framework....starting with your father and the IRS.  

There is a bridge currently being built into the immaterial/other dimensions (fill in with whichever word you wish to use) whether you want to see it or not.  I find it ironic that many of the things which you seek are right in front of your nose but you cannot see it.  I'm not sure if it is a result of a generational disconnect or if your psychological state is that fixed.  For some reason I thought you had a bit more elasticity of the mind to connect the dots but I need to clearly re-orient my expectations.  I'm not going to sit here and call you "stupid" - that is a reflection of your own inner state of being.  I have compassion for you and your generation that was so strongly tied to the degradation of the human condition.   The clean up crew is here now cleaning up your messes - put on some relaxing music and spend some time with your Grandkids.  Enjoy every sunset you get a chance to see.  Smile, laugh, love and create a new intimate relationship with your breath.

Dan says I'm lucky.

I am lucky, always was.

Is that fate?

Love your fate?

What if I was unlucky, well, I don't think we are ever unlucky.

We are here or we are somewhere else.

Here is good enough for me.

World population, insane capitalism?

Man hating man, these are the things I know.

And I know love, love that never stops pursuing.

That you can continue to function and breathe and walk around is pretty much the whole game here.

So we have to keep at least one eye where we are.

If you want to let the other one wander, then so be it.

Some of us are not sprinting to get to heaven or run from hell.

Sure, I been beyond the rainbow.

I came back with a message, relax, be kind, please rewind.

I think all must find their own way to it.

Some of us are content in hell and thus, have gained heaven.

This is a backward world as much as a front facing one.

We cannot judge circumstances or events.

Dan is so focused on the small world and Disclosure.

I ask the obvious question, what is wrong with this here?

“Begin each day by telling yourself: Today I shall be meeting with interference, ingratitude, insolence, disloyalty, ill-will, and selfishness – all of them due to the offenders’ ignorance of what is good or evil. But for my part I have long perceived the nature of good and its nobility, the nature of evil and its meanness, and also the nature of the culprit himself, who is my brother (not in the physical sense, but as a fellow creature similarly endowed with reason and a share of the divine); therefore none of those things can injure me, for nobody can implicate me in what is degrading. Neither can I be angry with my brother or fall foul of him; for he and I were born to work together, like a man’s two hands, feet or eyelids, or the upper and lower rows of his teeth. To obstruct each other is against Nature’s law – and what is irritation or aversion but a form of obstruction.”

― Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

2210z........

Yes, Eric and I just got off the phone.  

Now I’m trying to call Fores........


0040........

I don’t know what Fores is getting on about.  

He is still not answering his phone.  


I doubt that we will be able to live in peace with each other or ourselves, without knowing the truth.  

There is a great deal of confusion and conflict down here.  

The Truth is that we have the option to be one with the One..... anytime we desire.  

Chivo has achieved this truth with the help of Ayahuasca..... others find it with the help of a portal.  

Either way, we have Disclosure.  

Either way, we have the small world.  

I don’t understand all the procrastination.  

May we not get on with it?  



(cont........)

"...nobody can implicate me in what is degrading."

To obstruct is evil.

There will always be evil here, so it is the way it is.

How we respond to the obstructions dictates the quality of our lives.

Shall a Trump embitter you or make you laugh?

Shall delays in Disclosure embitter you or make you realize you should disclose yourself to your fellow muppets?

Shall we close ourselves off, or give ourselves totally?

This is what life is.

Hmmm...go out of my way to go get a rushed vaccine that hasn’t even been properly tested or take my chances with a virus that has a .15% mortality rate for my age group.

We don’t know the long term side effects of the vaccine and many experience flu-like symptoms after getting it, which is expected and often happens with normal flu shots yes, but still...

No thanks.

I don’t even like getting seasonal flu shots.

I never get the flu anyway. My wife and kids can all have the flu and still I usually won’t get sick being around them every day.

I have a pretty good immune system I feel.

Not to mention I only leave my house like once a week to buy food and we rarely have visitors.

So ya, I’ll take my chances.

To each their own.

And no, the right are not more stupid then the left and Trump is no more stupid than dictator Newsom.

In fact, I’d argue that dictator Newsom is 10x worse than Trump when it comes to stupid.

And besides all that, if I do get COVID then the only other people I could transfer it to are others who have chosen not to get vaccinated themselves.

As far as immaterialism/materialism goes, Dan is def an immaterialist if there ever was one.

Just my opinion.

It’s a philosophical thing, it has little to do with the use of cars, medicine, computers, etc.

For instance, can dreams not have cars, computers, and medicine?

Of course they can, and they do.

I am the Foot, Man, I am not Ron, Dan.

very well

"I am not the Cheese Man. I am not the Bees Man. I am the Foot Man."

And I AM THE ARM

Notice that? Ya, something maybe glitching with left Foot.

A for effort there left Foot.

Ack wrote:Hmmm...go out of my way to go get a rushed vaccine that hasn’t even been properly tested or take my chances with a virus that has a .15% mortality rate for my age group.

We don’t know the long term side effects of the vaccine and many experience flu-like symptoms after getting it, which is expected and often happens with normal flu shots yes, but still...

No thanks.

I don’t even like getting seasonal flu shots.

I never get the flu anyway. My wife and kids can all have the flu and still I usually won’t get sick being around them every day.

I have a pretty good immune system I feel.

Not to mention I only leave my house like once a week to buy food and we rarely have visitors.

So ya, I’ll take my chances.

To each their own.

And no, the right are not more stupid then the left and Trump is no more stupid than dictator Newsom.

In fact, I’d argue that dictator Newsom is 10x worse than Trump when it comes to stupid.

And besides all that, if I do get COVID then the only other people I could transfer it to are others who have chosen not to get vaccinated themselves.

A politician is a politician.

They lie to survive.

I’ll be getting the vaccine.

mRNA vaccines are the bomb.

GSB wrote:"I am not the Cheese Man. I am not the Bees Man. I am the Foot Man."

And I AM THE ARM

And I Am the smelly part.