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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Tue Feb 02, 2021 5:02 am

    First topic message reminder :

    We really shouldn’t forget the old mnemonic postings....... https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t236p425-hello-cy-omf-ii-part-2  

    Here’s a partial glossary for the mnemonics....... https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t251p700-hello-cy-omf-ii-part-2 .... scroll down.....

    Don’t forget other topics pages.......  

    https://bestpossibleworld.com/index06.htm

    https://bestpossibleworld.com/aAquarium/content.html

    https://best-possible.fandom.com/wiki/Best_Possible_Wiki


    Here’s more mnemonics...... https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t236p425-hello-cy-omf-ii-part-2

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:19 am

    Live and let live I say.

    I’d love to see everything exposed in the light.

    I don’t care much for the mechanizations of muppets.

    But I respect true individuals and I can’t say for sure, but you seem like a nice hobbit.

    Walking round with your dowsin rods and spendin time round old buildings.

    If I was god, that would bring me a chuckle looking down on you.

    You know the thing about John Lennon, a smelly goat brother, he was vicious.

    He was angry.

    He was pissed.

    I can relate.

    I think John was just starting to relax when he got his ticket punched.

    Kindness is better than anger.

    I can’t see any place for anger in life.

    But it happens.

    John was playful, but he would cut you.

    We use good wood and bad wood.

    Here is how the dualistic stay blind.

    You have to use everything.

    Everything you find.

    Where we go wrong I feel is separating things into categories, judging, preferring.

    Why not take everything that comes on the same level?

    But it seems we are meant to do it wrong until we learn the other side of wrong.

    So then you see there are no mistakes.

    Then we hopefully learn, unnecessary suffering is so unnecessary.

    But we all suffer.

    Those hiding the most, suffer the most, been there.

    So I would say to all hiding, maybe now is the time not to hide.

    No need to torture the poor muppet.

    What if we all wished the same thing at the same time?

    Do we want to wish it all away?

    I don’t want it to all be blown away.

    This life is a wonder.

    Parties end and then the hard living must be lived.

    But our burden is light.

    We can whistle while we work.

    We can endure any kind of tyrant.

    We can push rocks up hills.

    We can suffer all fools.

    Being here seems miracle enough for me.

    That is why I 😈  and mock the prophet and soothsayer.

    I want to tell all prophets, baaaaahhhhh, shut up and relax.

    You will have to get around the accuser.

    You are the accuser and the accused.

    Play both parts well and just this is on the other side, but floating a few inches off the ground.

    Money ain’t gonna do it or get ya here.

    Orange 🍊 tyrants aren’t gonna get you here.

    Jesus ain’t doin it nor Buddha, nor Muhammad, or Cold Mountain.

    They are just abstractions done well.

    I find this all very interesting.

    I found the layers upon layers and patterns mesmerizing.

    The god of the land you dwell in will always try to take hold of your mind and press it into service for its benefit.

    For we do not fight powers of flesh and blood.

    Carl Jung showed us a lot about this.

    I find not fighting it just shuts it down immediately.

    It is in fear and resistance of others where evil lives and thrives.

    I cannot teach anyone anything and I’m not trying.

    I am only thinking less and less about this.

    Before long, I will have nothing left to say.

    I’m sure the others will appreciate that.



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    Be not concerned with right and wrong.
    The conflict between right and wrong
    Is the sickness of the mind. — Seng-Ts'an

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    God sent me that poem.

    The 👁 is on you, of that, you should have no doubt.

    We can bear it.
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    Post by Foresaperire Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:26 pm

    Dan, your portalin' adventures are approaching: https://www.popularmechanics.com/space/deep-space/a35795047/traversable-wormholes-could-exist-in-real-world/
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    Post by dan Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:05 am

    1300z........

    Fores/Bryan is being incredibly stupid.  

    Fores, in his own way, is being more stupid than all the rest of you put together.  

    How is that even possible?  What is the nature of this stupidity?

    Fores thinks you can make an omelet 🍳 without cracking the eggs 🥚.  

    Every one of your egos is going to have to be cracked...... open minded.  

    In retrospect, we can crack open the biggest ego in all of history.  

    This is the ego of the Antichrist.  

    The Antichrist was correct about somethings, of course.

    He was mainly correct about the fake news....... and even about the fact that the NYT was the world’s foremost purveyor of fake news 📰.  

    Everything after that was his own version of fake news.  

    Even the NYT got one thing right.......

    There was more under the Sun than dreamt of...... in its scientific materialist philosophy........ ufos 🛸.  

    The rest of you, who have the temerity to speak here, have no clue about the depth of the depravity that exists in SMP.  

    Every last one of you is trying to appeal desperately to some portion of the SMP.  

    The SMP is the only thing that will save you from Religion.......?  

    Hah!  Sorry, about that, sports fans...... the only thing that will save you from Religion is the Truth....... and you are about to get a dose of it......   

    Yes, the Buddhists got one thing right........ our egos are a bottomless abyss.  

    They got only one thing wrong....... not realizing that there was one, and only one, remedy for that bottomless abyss........ the Truth.  

    Nature abhors the vacuum that exists in the midst of our egos...... and the Truth is about to rush in...... sports fans.  

    You, members of OMF, are just much too close...... you have no perspective........ you may need a small vacation...... to get your heads back on, correctly.  

    And, Truth be told, your heads will then be in the Cloud ⛅...... with Monadnock 🏔 in full view...... enjoy the show.  

    Will foot 🦶 and Princess 👸 recover in time to enjoy the show?  

    The jury is still out, on that one.  

    Yes, the sacred Canopies of Science and Religion, were the only things protecting your little noggins from the falling of the Sky 🌌.  

    Jesus said the Sky 🌌 was gonna fall.  

    He said what he meant...... and he meant what he said.  

    Get over it 😤....... get used to it.  

    Go take a vacation while you’re thinking 🤔 about it...... it will be your last vacation.  

    Don’t go away angry 😡....... just go away.  

    Don’t go away paranoid....... go away pronoid.  

    Up until this point, the petty minded have ruled the world 🌎.  

    You know who you are........ get lost!  

    Yes, each one of our sacred canopies, we have constructed with our own bare hands........ especially the scientific materialist philosophy.  

    The SMP is our own, very special, Golem...... the scientists will have to wear that Golem around their necks........ it already stinks 😷 to high Heaven.  

    Shame on whatever shred of arrogance you still have left....... from that errant (sp) into the Wilderness.  
    .......

    Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.  

    I have cast the first stone.  

    Am I without sin?  

    Of course not........ but I am the first to be saved by the Truth.  

    That makes me the Spirit of the Truth........
    I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. He will glorify me because it is from me that he will receive what he will make known to you. All that belongs to the Father is mine. That is why I said the Spirit will receive from me what he will make known to you.


    1545.........

    Is it not polite to point a finger?  

    I point my finger at the Evangelicals who voted 🗳 for Donald Trump.  

    Theirs is the greatest sin, but, if they play their cards right, they could reap the greatest reward.  

    Up until today, the Evangelicals have been closer to the Truth than anyone.  They were so close to the Truth 🔥 that they got singed.  

    They were so close, that they even knew they would have to vote 🗳 for the Antichrist.  They did, and donny had his three and a half years.

    Now what?  

    Now that they have witnessed the Antichrist, some will start looking for the real Thief......... 🐥.  

    How far will they have to look?  

    Not far at all, once they set their minds to it.  
    .........

    Poor Fores........ he needs a small vacation...... he’s not answering his phone ☎......
    ...........

    More specifically, it will be folks like the Sojourners who get onto the scent first.  

    We have heard from the Christian Right.  

    We’re about to hear from the Christian Left.  

    The Sojourners can be gentle as doves.  

    Will they now be clever as serpents?  

    Being both gentle and clever is a tricky act....... you have to be a real Trickster....... and it will take one to know one.  

    Believe it or not, there are Christians at the CIA, although they are greatly outnumbered by the Mormons there.  They would have to exist as internal spies.  

    There would be a few of those who would be onto foot 🦶.

    At some point, they will feel compelled to squawk...... especially, now, with donny mostly behind us.  

    These are the ones who, with inside information, would know that a pearl of great price has been sequestered...... at a great price...... at least since 1947.  


    1820.........

    So what are they going to do about it?

    They had better alert 🚨 their network, and come up with a plan of action.

    Of course, they will only be dealing with probabilities...... but they will know that those probabilities are not zero, so they will be obligated to do something.

    Ain’t that right, folks?



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    Post by Foresaperire Fri Mar 12, 2021 8:40 am

    The little chicken finally gets his big moment and crashes and burns...
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    Post by Foot Mann Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:21 am

    Playing marbles throughout the day, his marble seem to have rolled away. Pecking the dirt as if to say, will my marbles return some day.
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    Post by dan Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:24 am

    Omg....... is that who I think it is???

    Has he been able to survive the two drop-dead dates??

    If truth be known, I was not terribly surprised when marbles #2&3 rolled away, when they did.

    They took a small vacation.


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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:34 am

    Dan wrote: Fores, in his own way, is being more stupid than all the rest of you put together.

    How is that even possible? What is the nature of this stupidity.

    Bahahaha

    Don’t forget to add your own stupidity on top of that chickie 🐥

    It happens.

    You can show them the water, but can’t make anyone drink.
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    Post by dan Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:36 am

    Chivo,

    Folks will drink 🍺 exactly when they’re supposed to.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:38 am

    dan wrote:Chivo,

    Folks will drink 🍺 exactly when they’re supposed to.  

    Exactly, that’s why I don’t sweat fools and muppets and my own stupidity.

    This shit works itself out.

    No need to get frustrated at anyone or state of affairs.

    No muppet controls anything.

    Imagine if we new this giant asteroid ☄ flying by soon is a world killer?

    That would shut us all up pretty quick, huh?

    You could almost say it’s a sign.

    Like, hey muppets, you can be wiped away any moment.
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    Post by dan Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:45 am

    1845z.......

    True that we are almost on autopilot......... but we do have to stay awake.  

    Individually, we can crash and burn, at any point.  

    That’s ok, too....... but you will feel awfully foolish.

    This is just what foot said, so many years ago....... come hell or high water, you maintain your protocol.  

    Or....... we aim to please..... you aim too, please......


    1915........

    So, ok, we’re still, more or less, on track.  

    The powder remains relatively dry.  


    2040.........

    I’m hopeful that we may have turned a corner........ and a perilous corner it was.  

    I wouldn’t want to see a more perilous one.  

    Despite all of Chivo’s blandishments, I still get white knuckles.

    Chivo likes to be the backseat driver.  

    I felt reasonably safe for the last four years, knowing that foot was watching the other side of the street...... until he fell off the radar screen.  

    Contrary to popular opinion....... chick 🐥 gets no inside info.  

    Unless noted here, otherwise, I just have to fall back on my one news 📰 source....... Nowhere.  


    2150........

    The main problem with the Grey Lady is that she prints all the news that she thinks is fit to print...... but what does she know about fitness?  

    When it turns out that the Big Bang is fake news, that’s gonna upset a lotta apple 🍎 carts 🛒.  



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    Post by U Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:49 am

    Welcome back.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:22 pm

    Marble portal...



    It sure feels this loopy.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:27 pm

    Dan wrote:Chivo likes to be the backseat driver.

    Bahaha

    I wrote myself into the story Wink

    I got your back chick.

    As long as your aren’t murdering and eating kids or the weak anyway.

    But something is always eating something here on earth.

    It’s a real slaughterhouse.

    Come on, I’m as good a muppet proxy and canary/smelly goat in the coal mine as any.

    And maybe better than most cause I’m not a do gooder or evil doer, cause I don’t have a mission or a side, cause I don’t have a god or religion, cause I’ll take whatever comes.

    Find better and more prepared for the moment Wink

    Would Diogenes be any other way?

    I don’t really even have a name.

    That really opens things up, I’ll tell ya.

    Having no name is freedom.

    Being unknown is divine.

    Meet anything that comes with an embrace.

    It’s all you anyway.

    The faces don’t really matter.

    I really don’t like that 🍊 Trump.

    I want to see him get his.

    What goes around, comes around and he has some big stuff coming his way and there ain’t nuthin he can do about it.

    Too much good or evil and you are gonna get it.

    He made his bed.  

    But then I will have to get mine.

    Uh oh!

    How long can we wait?

    Maybe a billion years until earth is unlivable, maybe 1000 or 100 years if we don’t wise up.

    Maybe we will be on a New Earth by then Wink
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    Post by dan Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:30 am

    What I don’t know is whether there may ever be a peaceable kingdom on Earth.  

    I certainly would not want to rule it out.  

    If there were to be such, one might suppose that there would be more openness toward Disclosure.  

    The heavy lid of the Truth embargo seems to indicate otherwise.  

    It indicates that the nature of the anticipated final paradigm shift...... the cosmic gestalt switch..... is sufficiently radical so as to preclude an orderly social transition.  

    I cannot deny the possibility of a social disintegration.

    That negative possibility ought to provide us with a greater incentive to envision a positive outcome....... even while knowing that, whichever outcome, it has already been fated.  

    This lack of knowledge provides us with a provisional uncertainty.  

    The fatalists are not being given a free pass.  

    I might even be able to use this as ammunition against Chivo’s devil 👿 may care posture.  

    Fatalism will be a possibility, only with hindsight.  

    Cosmic censorship is to be seen as an individual existential challenge.  

    It is hard to imagine the best possible social disintegration.  

    Will the challenge be to see how long we can last in the burning theater before taking the portal exit?



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:47 pm

    Not to be a broken record and invalidate your profession or nuthin, there is no out there or in here.

    It is the way it is and I don’t think we need to tinker with the flow.

    In the world, things must balance on a head of a pin always.

    There is no heaven or hell.

    Hey, you wanna be natural, kowabunga.

    I don’t know any better way to be here.

    Live and let live.

    Don’t make a claim.

    I abdicate my throne.

    We were foolish to try to bring order to chaos.

    The best we are ever gonna do is a handshake, a hug and maybe a kiss.

    Well, god gave us a telephone.

    You just have to pick it up.

    The fungi are behind all this.

    You serve your mushroom overlords well little chicken.

    They look forward to absorbing you.
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    Post by Foot Mann Sat Mar 13, 2021 7:34 pm

    Chickens come home to roost, but on the way one may get goosed, for his disinformation has been sluiced.
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    Post by dan Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:52 pm

    0450z.........

    Uh oh, sports 🏀 fans 💗, maybe this isn’t the best possible world, after all.  

    Or maybe the Wuhan was not the best possible virus.

    Or maybe donny was not the best possible Antichrist.  

    Or was he not the best possible anteChrist?  

    Golly, the possibilities........ they positively abound!!


    1350........

    If foot 🦶 is actually back in the loop...... what about the status quo?  

    Will it be the status quo ante?  Ok ✅, but ante what?  

    Ante the Vectors......?  Ante the portals.......?  

    Ante donny.......?  

    And, to the point, who’s in charge of Disclosure?



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Mar 14, 2021 10:51 am

    Left Foot, I’d be happy to send you a book of “great” poetry.

    We gotta up your mystical poetry game dude.

    Not anywhere near our standards here.

    We are all flowin up in here and then you show up with your lame poetry about nonsense.

    You never flow here, I don’t think you can.

    If there was a muppet who thought they were in charge of anything, let me say...

    You ain’t in charge of nuthin.
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    Post by dan Sun Mar 14, 2021 12:02 pm

    foot never claimed to be in charge.........

    He is, after all, footmann to the Princess.  

    It comes down to the battle royale...... between the Princess 👸 and the chick 🐥....... with donny playing short stop 🛑.  

    The Princess is playing hard to get.  

    joe is tending to the Store 🏬.  



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Mar 14, 2021 12:31 pm

    That was a general swipe at any muppet claiming to run anything.

    They don’t and should attend to their own house.

    This was always and will always be a cooperative.

    When we realize this, life will improve in relation to the depth of our love.

    Now you can try to say something about Disclosure.

    You can’t.

    I just disclosed the whole thing.

    Nothing else matters.
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    Post by dan Sun Mar 14, 2021 12:40 pm

    Chivo........
    This was always and will always be a cooperative.

    When we realize this, life will improve in relation to the depth of our love.
     Of course....... but there is only one person.  

    Once in a coon’s age, that one person needs to put in a cameo.....

    ....... just to remind us that Creation is by persons, for persons and about persons....... lest we forget.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Mar 14, 2021 12:44 pm

    Each of us, in our small part, is helping the one by helping ourselves, by connecting more and more to this.

    I am part of this, a part who knows my part.

    No one can contain in their mind the scope and depth of this.

    Enjoy your part.


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    Post by dan Sun Mar 14, 2021 12:46 pm

    No one can contain in their mind the scope and depth of this.
    Well, this is precisely the point........

    This is our guarantee that we can be, and will be, one with the One.

    This is precisely why the best possible world is necessarily a small world 🌎.    

    Is this world not small enough for your little noggin?

    Is it not big enough?



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Mar 14, 2021 12:52 pm

    We are fortunate then that it all doesn’t rest on any one of us.

    That our grandiose egos can be shrunk down to fit the env.

    In fact, where authority builds up, like a knot, it must be dispelled.

    Authority grows like a cancer.

    There is something in this here, thriving for supremacy, which betrays a deep fear.

    A fear that nothing matters.

    Well, you are here, it matters.

    We just have to keep reminding each other.

    Agree there.

    Apes are stupid and cling to habits, they are violent if they don’t get their way.

    We have to be shocked sometimes, tis true.

    If we can avoid baking each other in ovens, life can be pretty wonderful.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Sun Mar 14, 2021 12:54 pm

    The world for me Dan, now, is just the right size Wink

    I can fill the space and relax.

    I wish the same for all.

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