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We really shouldn’t forget the old mnemonic postings....... https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t236p425-hello-cy-omf-ii-part-2  

Here’s a partial glossary for the mnemonics....... https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t251p700-hello-cy-omf-ii-part-2 .... scroll down.....

Don’t forget other topics pages.......  

https://bestpossibleworld.com/index06.htm

https://bestpossibleworld.com/aAquarium/content.html

https://best-possible.fandom.com/wiki/Best_Possible_Wiki


Here’s more mnemonics...... https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t236p425-hello-cy-omf-ii-part-2

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Dan,

I am not religious at all.
When I had my most amazing of several events I asked straight out "Who are You?"
The answer was
"I am You"

It was then further explained that it was Me the eternal in 5D, of which a part resides in 5D in My vehicles heart.

My vehicle is a 3D construct encoded to be and to stay above ground as long as possible.

My consciousness memory field been in 4D.

I was told ( and instructed to keep repeating what I was been told so that it became into My 4D memory) that when in dream state I tripped onto 5D to connect to My eternal self to download information and to pick up information.

I was told I was here to experience, that there is no right or wrong or good or evil.

All the time My 3D vehicle was trying to shut the other two voices up as it wanted it's body back and the earth back and saying i wasn't supposed to see all of this.


it was fabulous and funny, I sure am clever in My eternal being, and was told i have had so many lives.


hobbit

Ok, hobbit,

So you probably had a personal contact with your higher self.  

If we subscribe to personalism, your higher self is as much a person as you, but presumably more closely entangled with the Monad.  

We might also think of these higher selves as our better angels.

But even the Monad/Source is also a person.  Some folks refer to the Monad as the I Am.  

The question naturally arises as to how extensive is the hierarchy of angels.  Many theologies have gradations of angels, as, for instance, archangels, and so on....... much like the gradations of monks, etc.  

With personalism, there is only one person associated with the Alpha and Omega.  

Does this imply that any of the rest of us are expendable?  

With 10^10 of us, one might easily suppose that one or two of us would be expendable.



(cont........)

Portal chasing ...

1340z........

Gary,  

We might like to know if the History channel is paying Brandon, or is it the other way around.  

I see John Alexander in one of the clips, and some of the others seem familiar.  
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1530..........

If God has numbered the hairs on our head, we might suppose that she has numbered us, as well.  

Back in the early days of radar, there were (informal) contests to see how many vacuum tubes could be removed, and still have the radar function.  

How many of us can be removed, and still have the BPW?  

How do wars, genocides and fertility manipulations relate to that question?  

How many more genocides are we supposed to have?  

China has no compunction about manipulating the fertility of its various ethnic groups.

Is that good or bad?


1830.........

What we’re asking is...... what is the best possible genocide?  

Well, ok...... looking forward or looking back?  

And, looking forward, is that with or without Disclosure?  

Without Disclosure, bad things will continue to happen.  

With Disclosure, it can be argued that the bad things will become less bad....... although there may be social collapse.  

Portal openings will have to be coordinated with the social dynamics.  

It is my understanding that there has been preliminary discussion of Disclosure at the UN Security Council.  

If so, this would be a rather significant development.  

As to whether the anticipated Disclosure includes any aspect of eschatology, I have not been informed.  

But I am told that the pace of disclosure is likely to be increasing.  

I asked about the politics of this initiative, as to whether it was coming more from the right or the left.  

I was told that the UN was formed to prevent the spread of communism, but that now the UN was supporting the spread of communism.  

Well, opinions may differ.  My understanding was that the UN was mainly in the business of peace keeping, but, hey, little chick has been wrong before.  

Going forward, I suspect that portal politics will come to dominate the socio-economic sector.  

I’m thinking that it will look kinda like communalism.  

But that’s just my opinion, of course.  

How does one do corporate communalism....... especially when portals are in play.  

And which side are we talking about?  

On this side, we’ll be heading back to tree hugging .  

On the other side........ it will not be business as usual.  

Sorry, donny, hotels and casinos will not be........ well, maybe I’d better take that under advisement.  

But, speaking of donny, I wonder how he will be fitting into this....... besides being a friend of 2&3?  



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Wow that was corny.

Where de water go? We don't know.

Water is not flowing, it is displacing relative to the route of consciousness, and consciousness always follows the route of least resistance.
The river does not meander in serpentine fashion, it displaces relative to the route of consciousness.
Consciousness flows in phase conjugate direction/s.

Where it implodes , it outrushes.

https://www.academia.edu/14450717/Gobekli_Tepe_The_Bull_and_the_Serpent#:~:text=An%20analysis%20of%20the%20Bull%20and%20Serpent%20Imagery,about%20part%20of%20the%20cosmological%20basis%20for%20the

In a hole in the ground there lived an.....


Hobbit

My understanding is that the Chicken was formally reprimanded for evil doing.

Oh, so that’s what that was.

It was to encourage confession, penance, and atonement; but the Chicken could not get past the first step.

Well, there’s only one deadly sin......... blaspheming the Holy Ghost, so I guess I’ll get to spend some in Limboland with the cheetahs.

That last exchange of messages was in reference to a phone call from John S, regarding my request to join the ‘philosophy’ group.

John is not a member, but he is the security officer, and the my offenses have involved the leakage of information.  

My understanding is that this group is also involved with ongoing negotiations around disclosure, internationally, under the auspices of one such organization.  

Negotiations, almost by definition, must be confidential .  My participation could easily compromise the process, given my proclivity to blab/blog...... discretion would have to continue to be the better part of valor.

If we are to give any credence to this process, it almost certainly would entail aspects of eschatology, but what would those aspects be if they did not include the Eschaton, per se?  

That has always been my position........ if you take one step beyond lights in the sky, then there has to be a message from the stars.  

And what can that message be, beyond...... love one another?

It would have to speak to the future, and there are only two options available....... physical or metaphysical....... take your pick.  

It’s either Buck Rogers or the Eschaton.  

Well, ok, it’s either Elon or Eschaton.  

And most everyone would prefer Elon...... no doubt.  

Let’s have a contest........ Elon vs little chick .  

Little chick stands a chance only if he cheats, big time.  

Maybe I’ve seen the plot spoiler....... and spoiler it is.  

Is it Lucy in the sky with diamonds ?

Something like that.  

Is our future smelly&co?  That too.  

Cosmology isn’t really a democracy, is it?  

It may be personal, but, if all of us are created equal...... maybe we’re indiscernible....... deep down.  

Maybe there is but one Source...... and one Telos...... one Logos...... one Agape.  

How many can there be?  

Can’t there be multiple I Am’s?



(cont.........)

I received the answer "I am You"

If I had been religious, I could have easily ASSUMED that I am something special, I didn't, I don't.

I should have asked further, but the experience really is mind blowing enough.

I have concluded that all memories exist in 5D, every bug, every bird, every elephant, every fish, every plant.

And that a portion of such trips into the creation closest to it's memory , a mutual attunement occurs where the new creation radio's out for the information it requires to be.

Most of the deceased memories will be contained within the planets memory, and only large scale galactic transfers will bring in new memories from other planets .

In essence all is one , but memory is contained in timeless 5D awaiting the radio call, to trip across into 3D.

hobbit

1800z.........

hobbit claims to be nothing special, nonetheless, he’s had a close encounter with the I Am.  

Not all of us can make that claim.  

I may have had a close encounter with Truth....... the jury is still out.  

On the other hand, is there anyone of us who has not had a numinous experience....... of one kind or another...... even though we may not have recognized it at time.  

Falling in love is such an experience for many, and certainly not everyone has had that fraught experience.  

Being woke...... being born again...... they are all on the spectrum of....... some sort of recognition of the Beyond........ almost alien , it might seem, at first, but then the realization that it is coming from within.  

It can be as if the rug of familiarity was pulled out from under us.  

Opening up something unfathomable....... our own personal Abyss?  

The dark night is another way to encounter the Other in ourselves..... the Other that, ultimately, is much closer and more familiar than ourself.  

The metaphysical question remains...... how many Others are there?  

How many Abysses are there?  

Even with the most alien/impersonal of encounters....... there is some sort of recognition....... some sort of memory is triggered........ hello, darkness!  

In the recognition of the Other, we encounter the singularity of our own being.  

Somehow, we fathom the unfathomable.  

This is the mysterium tremendum...... where the gnostics and mystics want us to think they part company.  

Is it possible that these singular experience are, somehow, single?  

This is the gnosis of Parmenides.  

Does the gnosis of Parmenides actually differ from the gnosis of Heraclitus?  

One is just the obverse of the other....... suggesting, perhaps, the singularity of Being........ which is what I’m getting at.  

We all partake of the singularity of Being.

But why need there be 10^10 of us?  


2040..........

We are mortal, therefore we are expendable.  

We are the eyes of God.  We have two eyes, so is one expendable?

Many of us can get along well with one eye....... but still.....

We can loose a toe, and hardly notice the difference........ but still.....

Are we not just cosmic spawn?  

You can have a megapixel screen, and, if one of those pixels is not illumined, it can be rather obvious.  

It may all be in the eye of the beholder, but how many beholders are there?  

But it’s not like this is an experiment in divine perception....... let’s see how many pixels we can remove........ if we just remove the row of pixels on the side, no one will notice.  

The organicity of the world is founded in Eternity...... the roots go everywhere........ total entanglement....... the World Wide Web is just the least of tokens.  


Take hobbit, below........

‘At every point, there are multiple dimensions.’

How many?  

Is not each of us infinitely entangled?  

It’s kind of like a fractal....... each point contains the fractal....... each point contains the hologram.  

Each fractal is a whole organic process.  If you remove a single cell in the process, the whole process is disrupted.  

If one of the cells in your body becomes carcinogenic, the can be the end.  

If one person kills another, it is still part of the fabric.  

In some beliefs it is anathema to squash a bug.  

The squashing and the anathema are both essential.  


But back to hobbit’s consciousness.......

‘Consciousness is omnipresent.’  

I don’t think that does it justice.  

Is consciousness in the world, or is the world in consciousness?  

And how many consciousnesses are there?  

The unity of consciousness speaks to the unity of the world...... and vice-versa.

Then there is the parable of the shepherd....... if one sheep goes astray, the flock is incomplete...... radically.  

The only thing beyond consciousness is the unconscious.  

How can we apportion one with the other, when both are infinite?  



(cont.........)

There is no "beyond" and no "within"

There simply is consciousness, it is omni present and geometry based that creates multiple dimensions in the same location.

Enormous voltage is involved with magnetism created.

hobbit

Picking up something on radar ... or is it just a bad dream ... time to step up the firepower at Skinwalker Ranch, perhaps? It's coming ...

1230z.......

I have been unable to confirm the rumor about an international Disclosure initiative.  

My expectations as to next month’s US/ufo report remain modest, indeed.  

Can we expect more than reports of lights in the sky?  I’m doubtful 🤨.  

The philosophy of immaterialism...... the small world hypothesis...... will remain obscured.  


1830..........

However, the government could be forced to release its own assessments of the situation....... in particular, is the phenomenon of terrestrial, extra-terrestrial or ultra-terrestrial in origin?  

If the report itself does not contain any assessments, pressure can be brought to bear.  


2000.........

And I suspect that pressure will be brought to bear.  

Then things might start getting interesting 🧐.  

The government will try to avoid any speculation along UTH/IDH lines, due to its inevitable encroachment on sectarian territory.  

It would be surprising, if they would not try to avoid it.  

Will there be pressure, though, to take up that topic?

That would be a big unknown.

If the is no forensic evidence from these decades of interaction, the UTH/IDH will inevitably gain in recognition.  

And what about forensic psychology?  

I know that folks connected with the government have collected implants from experiencers.

I know that they have conducted interviews with experiencers.  

What will the forensic psychology show?  

The number one witness from the government would very likely be Kit Green.  He would be willing and able to testify on a wide rangeof ufo 🛸 related topics, from the government’s perspective.  

Among many other things, Kit is a forensic psychologist.  

He is also knowledgeable in parapsychology.  

He also happens to be an FOR....... friend of Ron’s.  

They were colleagues at the agency for several years.  

Don’t forget that Kit has debriefed a number of astronauts.  

I think it’s fairly well known that a number of government people in sensitive positions have reported abduction type phenomena.  

I believe that Kit played a background role with TTSA.  

He certainly has been a key member of the Aviary.  

If the Kit saga comes to the fore, I can’t imagine that the R&D show would be far behind....... and what about Grant’s Managing Magic?  

‘“kit green” cia’ has 50K hits.

‘“ron pandolfi” cia’ has 4K hits.  

In other words, the Congressionally mandated ufo report will only open the door by a crack.  

And that’s what they said about Pandora’s Box .  

foot 🦶 has claimed to have briefed four Presidents, and I don’t think that counted donny.  

Once this starts coming, it’s not gonna stop .

Let’s not forget Chris Straub.

Congress could find plenty to do, just investigating itself.  

The Government could well point the finger right back at Congress.  

Or will the Congressional report just be a coverup of the coverup?



(cont........)

The Loons, Crooks, and Worse will not stop, but reality is everything UFO related falls into one of those categories.

Well, whoever you are (foot*), is there a phenomenology problem or not?

The Loons, Crooks, and Worse do not intersect any real problems.

foot*,

Wonderful, then which am I.......... a loon, a crook or worse?

And which is Donald Trump..... a loon, a crook or worse?  

And which phenomenological problem does he intersect...... the bully boy, narcissist, Antichrist problem?  

Besides, foot*, who is your legitimate Commander in Chief?  

Perhaps, foot*, it’s time for you to fall on your sword.  

Just a thought..........

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1320z........

There is a rumor that the leopard is on the prowl.

And there may be some serious 🧐 shape shifting.


1500......

The only really serious shape shifting is the cosmic kind.

One portalis worth a thousand rocket ships .  


1630........

jofo, yes, chick would definitely be a bmoc.  

With TTSA being mothballed, kit&foot 🦶 would have to step up.  

Kit’s aquarium name is Salmonids Iridis .....

We’re just missing starfish and tuna fish.  


1740.........

It is being said that the various agencies are not fully cooperating with collection of ufo data.  

But what about the rumors of mj12?  

Surely some such group must exist....... if only to run shotgun.  

It is generally agreed that there must be some overlap between mj12 and the aviary.  

The NYT definitely glommed onto TTSA....... as only a very little bit of misdirection.  

And then there are the Skinwalker and Shasta phenomena...... maybe even the Bledsoe phenomenon, and several parties were involved with all three.  

In the end, it’s a small world.  It’s not like there was a competition.

A significant amount of money has passed through a few of these hands.

It’s not at all hard to locate the PoIs...... if anyone wanted to get a little more serious than the lights in the sky.  

And there is a very large paranormal component that is inextricably entangled with the ufo 🛸 phenomenon.  

If the Congressional report does not delve into these aspects, it will be DOA.  

What did foot say a long time ago........?  The phenomenon cannot be tracked, so we track the persons associated with the phenomenon.  

If the report does not acknowledge this problem, it will, indeed, be DOA.  However, with such a glaring omission, the avenues of speculation are being fully provoked.  

And what about all the other countries?  

Their silence in these matters is almost deafening.  

Again, the competition never bothered to show up.  

Poor little chick , all he had to do was make three phone calls..... let’s call that $0.75........ Bob Oechsler, Larry Lemke...... and guess who........ 🦶.   Think of all the billions or trillions that might have been saved....... all for $0.75.  

But, hey, think of all the fun 🤩 we’ve had, in the meantime..... chasing our tails/tales.  


1950........

Another bon-mot........ we are not here to satisfy Presidential curiosity.  

POTUS is told what she needs to know, when she needs to know it.  

Could Congress be treated any differently?  

Congressional folks frequently make formal requests to the agency for such information....... anything merely formal...... ends up in the circular file.  

This is just another formal request....... slightly more public than the others.  

Reporters need something to print....... someone to quote.  

But mostly they just need to do a little homework....... just need to break the ice........ the glass ceiling of Disclosure.  

Like in every other business, it’s not what you know........

The small world is a very big conceptual barrier to us, modern minded folks.  

But one little portal will be like sticking a pin in an overinflated balloon ....... phsssssst....... I can just hear the air rushing out.  

Disclosure has been hidden right in plain, for all these decades.  

And all the reporters out there, looking for the Big One........

All they can think about is rocket ships and underground vaults.  

The only question is..... who has the key to the vault?  

Kit Green would have a pretty good idea....... button, button, who’s got the button.  

Could anyone not realize that Kit would have a few stories about Ron....... a few educated guesses about mj12?    

Kit has often said that he would respond to a Congressional subpoena, but nothing less.  

Just get Kit behind closed doors for a few hours....... and ask where the skeletons are buried.  

Ask him what witness to call next.  

The hearings would have to start with the ssci.  

You might have to secure some minimal cooperation between the parties.  That would be the only real obstacle.  

Lacking that....... it’s a non-starter.  

Imagine the posturing and grandstanding...... even behind closed doors.  

It might be better to let the staff handle the preliminaries...... as per usual.  

foot could be a very difficult witness.  He knows how to not cooperate.  

He is a master trickster.  

A Congressional subpoena could mean nothing to him.  

It’s not known that he has ever confided in anyone.  

There has never been an indication of any oversight.  

You could just ask who might know more about the phenomenon and its sequestration than he....... or about its role in intelligence and counterintelligence.  

Ask about the briefing of Presidents.  Is such communication protected?  

The Agency would have to say who ever briefs on phenomenology.  

That would have to be the place to start.  

If the Congressional report is silent on the matter of briefings, that, in itself, would be a major red flag .  

It has been said that Presidential briefings are very much tailored..... ad hominem.  That would make it rather difficult to say anything that is not personally privileged.  

So, lacking some relevant national crisis....... it will just be coverup as usual.  

Could one subpoena a former President?  

What about DCIs....... perhaps Woolsey, with a known interest.  

Were they ever rebuffed on requests for information?  

Do any feel that were given enough information to obtain oversight..... or to be convinced that there was nothing of import?

Have not any Congressional committees had closed door briefings on this topic?  



(cont.........)

If Kit gets national attention as part of the congressional 'disclosure' effort, your small world is going to get very big indeed Dan, with many new visitors to your web pages here on OMF.

Poor Chicken is locked out of the Roost. But his ego still needs a Boost. So the Chicken clucks about Kit being Jewced. He is still locked out of the Roost.

https://www-nytimes-com.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/www.nytimes.com/2021/05/13/opinion/ufos-aliens-space.amp.html

"There is a thick literature on how evidence of alien life would shake the world’s religions, but I think Brother Guy Consolmagno, director of the Vatican Observatory, is quite likely right when he suggests that many people would simply say, “of course.” The materialist worldview that positions humanity as an island of intelligence in a potentially empty cosmos — my worldview, in other words — is the aberration. Most people believe, and have always believed, that we share both the Earth and the cosmos with other beings — gods, spirits, angels, ghosts, ancestors. The norm throughout human history has been a crowded universe where other intelligences are interested in our comings and goings, and even shape them. The whole of human civilization is testament to the fact that we can believe we are not alone and still obsess over earthly concerns.

...The loveliest sentiment I came across while doing this (admittedly odd) reporting was from Agnes Callard, a philosopher at the University of Chicago. “You also asked how we should react,” she said over email. “I guess my preferred reaction would be for the knowledge that someone was watching to inspire us to be the best examples of intelligent life that we could be.”

1400z.......

Rumor has it that the Congressional report will come in three parts respectively intended for the public, for Congress as whole, and finally for special committees.  

The public part will acknowledge the other two parts.

The Utah ranch project is still moving forward with the history channel...... a third season is in the works.  

Some of the TTSA people are forming their own project.  

The Congressional report will cover artifacts, some with advanced electronic properties.  

Here is the latest article by Keith...... https://keithkloor.substack.com/people/1236413-keith-kloor

All these recent reports and articles raise so many more questions than they answer.  

Keith makes a distinction between psychedelic research, and the lack of any research behind the ufo stories.  

What he fails to do is to draw any parallels between the two phenomena.  

He fails to point out that both phenomena are dealing with altered states...... particularly any encounter phenomena.  

I haven’t heard that the Congressional report will mention any encounter phenomena...... or that it will mention the importance of humint over sigint.  

This likely omission, would be its central flaw.  

Mj12 data would likely be focused on the human element.  

Does the humint not go beyond the....... be nice to each other?

Is there no concerted substantive message from the stars?  

No mention of the future of humanity?  


1700.........

Any contact with the paranormal or parapsychological is considered by Christian fundamentalists as being contact with the demonic..... consorting with the devil.  

This ignominy goes back at least as far as the Inquisition.  

In all cultures, the numinous is treated with a degree of dread.

In all cultures the shaman is considered an outsider...... as being potentially disruptive or subversive.  

There are the notions of totem and taboo.

The taboo of the paranormal is strongly correlated with the rise and maintenance of scientific materialism in the West.

This has much to do with the division between secular and sectarian.

Secularism is nearly synonymous with modernism and the taboo of the paranormal.

The politics around the separation clause will render any public deliberations on the paranormal to be biased from the outset.

Full Disclosure will not be possible short of a public crisis..... short of a socio-economic meltdown, and then it would likely be too late.



(cont........)

So, what do you know!?

Fugal, who previously operated a private laboratory at the Provo Airport where he studied gravitational physics theories, told the audience was a “skeptic” before purchasing the property. He said he informed the former owner, Robert Bigelow, he would bring in his own scientists to “debunk” the paranormal activity on the ranch.

https://www.heraldextra.com/news/local/north/lehi/brandon-fugal-talks-ufos-skinwalker-ranch-at-north-utah-county-chamber-event/article_5b88be89-ed6b-565a-b60c-8f4c6e655789.html