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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Tue Feb 02, 2021 5:02 am

    First topic message reminder :

    We really shouldn’t forget the old mnemonic postings....... https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t236p425-hello-cy-omf-ii-part-2  

    Here’s a partial glossary for the mnemonics....... https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t251p700-hello-cy-omf-ii-part-2 .... scroll down.....

    Don’t forget other topics pages.......  

    https://bestpossibleworld.com/index06.htm

    https://bestpossibleworld.com/aAquarium/content.html

    https://best-possible.fandom.com/wiki/Best_Possible_Wiki


    Here’s more mnemonics...... https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t236p425-hello-cy-omf-ii-part-2

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:14 am

    Dan and hobbit are making it too complicated.

    There isn’t a satisfactory explanation.

    Can you dig it?
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    Post by dan Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:20 am

    Tell us, then, big boy 🐐, that it’s not about love 💗.  

    I dare you, goat boy......
    Well, you can knock me down, step in my face
    Slander my name all over the place
    Do anything that you want to do
    But uh-uh honey, lay off of my shoes
    Poor smelly’s gonna try to hide behind Nisragadatta’s apron.

    Nothing will hide you from the cosmic spotlight.  

    The Monad is coming right down the tracks....... just put your ear to the rail.  


    All I have to say to poor little hobbit is....... so what?

    What you are too slow footed to do is ask the same question right back to chick 🐥....... so what?

    Someone ought to try that........ let’s see what happens..... just for the heck it.

    No one has been brave enough to ask.



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    Post by Cheguevoblin Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:37 pm

    So what?

    There is no satisfactory explanation.

    There is only the satisfaction of a life well lived and loved.

    That doesn’t mean there won’t be pain.

    You have to work through a lot of shit before the pain takes a back seat.

    It doesn’t ever go away and any who claim otherwise are full of shit.

    But we can learn to stand with it and use it to move and groove with love.

    So what?

    Only each can answer that for their self.

    It’s all a dance with death.

    We answer it by the way we live and what we do each day.

    I don’t look too far ahead anymore.

    I live day to day and respond to the moment with yes.

    I’m not ashamed or afraid of this beautiful mess, but I don’t pretend it’s something more than what it is.

    So what?

    Just this.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Feb 24, 2021 1:08 pm

    Wind on Mars, it must all be in our head Dan, kinda funny talking about breathin and then we hear Mars' inrush and outrush.

    https://www.space.com/perseverance-rover-first-mars-sounds-audio?jwsource=cl

    I don't have to tell ya anything Dan.

    I'm not hiding.

    Just, talking about this is superfluous.

    But as you like.

    Arguing about anything is pointless.

    This here, sells itself.

    No explanation by muppets required.

    That's what I love about life.

    Everyone blabbing is just wind.

    Hey, it's Shroomy Smurf in da house!

    Blowing his wind too.

    We gonna have a raging tornado in har soon at this rate.


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    Post by Cheguevoblin Wed Feb 24, 2021 1:13 pm

    Oh what a blustery day.

    💨💨💨

    And it’s a reefer Smurf dude.

    Rollin a fatty.

    What else?
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Feb 24, 2021 1:16 pm

    Reefer Smurf dude, my apologies.
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    Post by Cheguevoblin Wed Feb 24, 2021 1:21 pm

    Its all good Orchid boy.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Feb 24, 2021 1:50 pm

    "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
    Than are dreamt of in your philosophy."

    - Hamlet (1.5.167-Cool, Hamlet to Horatio

    As far as what is real?

    Don't know.
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    Post by hobbit Wed Feb 24, 2021 1:50 pm

    Been watching football, so what Dan?
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    Post by hobbit Wed Feb 24, 2021 1:55 pm

    Escape velocity,


    https://wakeup-world.com/2021/02/24/the-physics-of-ascension-achieving-escape-velocity/?utm_campaign=Wake+Up+World+e-Newsletter+%28Free%29&utm_content=Latest+Headlines+inc.+The+Physics+of+Ascension+-+Achieving+Escape+Velocity&utm_medium=email&utm_source=getresponse

    This bloke is talking like a hobbit


    Poor little hobbit
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Feb 24, 2021 2:46 pm

    Kindness is the only way.

    Kindness toward oneself comes first.

    That whole wake up site is a distraction.

    Popular internet spirituality is bullshitz.

    Just a bunch of crap.

    Keep at it hobbit.

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    Post by hobbit Wed Feb 24, 2021 2:58 pm

    Smelly El Chivo wrote:Kindness is the only way.

    Kindness toward oneself comes first.

    That whole wake up site is a distraction.

    Popular internet spirituality is bullshitz.

    Just a bunch of crap.

    Keep at it hobbit.

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    Post by Cuan Scott Wed Feb 24, 2021 3:10 pm

    hobbit wrote:Escape velocity,


    https://wakeup-world.com/2021/02/24/the-physics-of-ascension-achieving-escape-velocity/?utm_campaign=Wake+Up+World+e-Newsletter+%28Free%29&utm_content=Latest+Headlines+inc.+The+Physics+of+Ascension+-+Achieving+Escape+Velocity&utm_medium=email&utm_source=getresponse

    This bloke is talking like a hobbit


    Poor little hobbit

    Interesting article Hobbit - thank you

    Tom Campbell worked with Bob Monroe if I recall correctly

    He is excellent too Smile

    For the record and I know I know little of your life, but nonetheless  - I think you are great Hobbit Smile

    I think everyone here is great Smile

    But what I think doesn't matter - it's what you think

    BTW - Nice Zeppelin Toon Hobbit

    I agree with the Ack man and Smelly Smile

    Busy here now lol
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Feb 24, 2021 3:44 pm

    What if you had no Nisargadattas or Bob Monroes or Tom Cs or internet spiritual bullshit gurus?

    Speak for yourself.

    You will have to go where they all go.

    To the source.

    Why listen second hand when you are invited to know thyself?

    Reality is always immediately accessible.

    No charge required.

    You are here.

    Until you find the sage within, you are pretending.

    That’s a poetic way to say, trust yourself.

    That’s waking up.

    Every theory is incomplete.

    Every system a trap.

    In the lecture hall we are honest with each other and ourselves.

    Brutal.

    This ain’t for whimsy pimsy internet snowflakes.

    Still, Sam Harris is a better source than those bozos imho.

    Going headless is better than reading about it.

    Shoveling shit is reality.

    Until you do that, you are just another pretending muppet.

    We can fool ourselves forever if we like.

    Or we can die.

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    Post by Foresaperire Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:55 pm

    The fracture in the behavioral modification tool of social media and content delivery to the soul was necessary to create the contrast that we are now emerging from. The pendulum swings into introducing the masses to the deeper peeled back layers of the onion of themselves and all that must be faced - the deep work and reflection of the shadow. The rapid expansion of spirituality on the internet is simply a tool in behavioral modification leading us into the Monad of the here and now, the Kingdom, Buddha-Land. Personal taste or ideas of this movement is a reflection of one's own soul. The truest and purest essence of love is inclusive of all, not just a select few.
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    Post by dan Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:30 pm

    Fores,

    I think that most of us should be able to go along with that.  

    Any objections?

    The Kingdom of God....... on the Earth.......?  well, maybe not quite.  

    In the Telos, all states of consciousness and unconsciousness merge into one state.  

    Things will get pretty fuzzy, you might say.  


    And then there is the....... so what?

    In the first approximation, there is nothing we, together, can do that hasn’t been predetermined.

    Individuals might be able to switch places...... up to a point.

    What we think about what we do is where we get to exercise a degree of freedom.

    What is in our hearts is what is going to count, in the End.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:51 pm

    For, no one knows better than yourself.

    This is a natural process.

    The best teachers demonstrate, they don’t speak about it.

    That is why the guru model works, it is a model, easily can go off track, but then maybe they needed to go off track.

    We lose this on the anonymous web.

    It isn’t our job, we have no way to help anyone, but we can act natural and be ourselves.

    From there, all philosophy becomes a fart.

    But we have to get along and communicate, so we do the best we can.

    That means moving with nature, as efficiently and with as little effort as possible.

    Don’t make it more complicated.

    Strip it all down.

    Then show your heart.

    It works, I know Wink

    Numbers have nothing to do with anything.

    I’d argue the internet is awful for genuine waking up.

    It is a cesspool.

    I had to risk my life at the end of my rope.

    It isn’t easy.

    You have to date it all or your just treading water.

    There is no pay off beyond the benefit in your own life.

    There is no pay off in the sky.

    Who you are I feel dies with your body.

    The rest is opinion.

    But...to address our suffering, embrace the source of the pain.

    Demonstrating the best life lived is our only witness.

    If we don’t practice and have a code, we falter.

    If one doesn’t create, grow, and build from joy, I’d argue they don’t know shitake.

    The true religion isn’t like anything culture has produced.

    It is deeply known and felt beyond words.

    So what does one make of all the words about it?

    Abstractions.

    I’m suggesting a radical kind of engagement.

    One that side steps all the bullshitz.

    I demonstrated it on omf.

    What works for one doesn’t apply to all, there are lots of ways to wake yourself.

    I personally respect the zen shit stick to the head.

    Do you know what a shit stick is?

    All your words are as crusted shit on the stick.

    That’s why I’m so smelly.

    But we all end up in the same place.

    Playful, skilled, and open to life and death.

    We Wu Wei.

    We are breathing and that’s enough.

    You want more?

    The woke would remake the world in their muppet image?

    Shrug.

    There are no mistakes I feel.

    I am responsible for what I do.

    My writing is my art.

    It is a real expression of my being.

    I love it.

    I do and am what I love.

    I need no ones approval or philosophy really.

    I have to contain myself in this culture and enforced slavery and I do so happily.

    Because here, is where it is all happening.

    You will say maybe this isn’t helpful, I would agree.

    These words are just my shitty art.

    But my heart is glowing, red hot, like the sun.

    If you could bottle it, you would be rich, but you can’t.

    I came across it naturally and only I know it’s depth.

    I don’t know what others know or don’t.

    Today something incredible happened after I posted my new mushroom avatar.

    Silly little act, but I let it flow.

    If I could show you what the universe did, how it responded, you would be blown away.

    I’m sure we all have these moments.

    The real magick at work is so personal and intimate.

    My doubt is strong, but it is blown away more and more.


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    Post by dan Wed Feb 24, 2021 7:09 pm

    Ok, Chivo,

    I don’t believe in words either......... just like I don’t believe in telephones.

    I don’t believe in telephony.  I believe in telepathy.  

    However, I do believe in the Logos.  

    I don’t believe in orchestras, but I do believe in symphonies.

    We are still warming up for the Omega symphony.  

    The verbal aspect of the Logos is necessary for that warm up.  

    God wouldn’t have given us vocal chords, if we weren’t supposed to sing.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Feb 24, 2021 7:19 pm

    We are the logos.

    We don’t think about singing.

    We sing.

    I will forgive you your muppet dualistic thinking.

    You are old and senile at this point.

    Bahahahaha

    As I am becoming.

    Maybe we do our best thinking and singing at the end.

    We don’t really control anything.

    Cause it all works out somehow Wink

    I don’t care how anymore.

    I can read any book.

    I can learn any formula.

    I can repeat mantras until I disappear.

    But no, we are individuals.

    We do what we do.

    When we stop judging it, we are flowing in it.

    Right up to our muppet eyes.
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    Post by dan Wed Feb 24, 2021 7:24 pm

    We are the Logos........ of course we are.  

    The Logos Spermatikos is sprouting within us...... as we teach the world to sing........

    Ommm.............

    Kumbaya.......?  Whatever works.  

    What is the frequency, Kenneth?  

    hobbit can probably tell us about the good vibrations.  

    The subterranean currents have been there the whole time, but now they rise to the surface.  



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:46 pm

    Kumbaya.

    Deep time.

    Imagine actions that play out over millennia.

    Then imagine other levels of actions that play out in the solar system, galaxy, clusters.

    Long arcs of action at timescales beyond our imaging.

    That should be a humbling thing.

    And actions happening so fast we can’t imagine.

    So it isn’t that the mystics are prophets of the future, they are just feeling the waves of action, gravity? 🌊 no real original insight there.

    So the wave will build as it nears the shore.

    That leads me to sing how strange it feels to be riding the waves of actions I can’t possibly imagine.

    Perhaps evolution is a massive gene 🧬 drive doing its thing to conclusion.

    We are carried along.

    Life is not some chaotic blood bath.

    We can speak.

    We can reason.

    Those are what we make of them.

    On the oak tree, the Fibonacci fraction is 2/5, which means that the spiral takes five branches to spiral two times around the trunk to complete one pattern.

    We are made of spirals.

    Our life follows patterns.

    Our body regulates a chemical wonderland.

    That’s a lot of spinning plates.

    But the mind seems like some fuzzy paradoxical thing in matter when you think about it.

    If you look close, you can see the pattern.

    You can feel the deep movements.

    It’s a strange feeling.

    All I can say is the waves moved me from where I was and set me down where I needed to be.

    Is that faith?

    Thankfully much of the heavy lifting is handled beyond my control.

    I feel like a fifth wheel, an imposter in the midst of magnificent song.

    One is fortunate to catch a bit of it on the wind and join their voice with it.

    It has an amplifying effect on the mind.

    I’d rather ride the wave in, than crash on the rocks of ignorance or be drowned by lethargy.

    I feel a big swell.

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    Post by dan Thu Feb 25, 2021 8:08 am

    Yes, I, too, can feel the deep currents moving.........

    ...... they are moving Chivo right off of his personal Mt Monadnock...... down onto the slopes...... where he gets to surf the Big One....... hanging ten.  

    For for years I’ve been trying to tell him......... hey, dude, surf 🏄 is up!  

    When you’re sitting right on top of the wave 🌊, it’s hard to tell what’s going on around you.  

    You have to get down on the slopes ⛷ to feel the action.  

    Have we ever been here, before?

    Yes and no.......

    Keep in mind that all of this is embedded in Eternity ♾......

    From a bird’s eye perspective, we are like a fly 🪰 embedded in amber.  

    However, the I Am was very clever...... we get to have our cake 🎂, and eat it, too.  

    Adam wasn’t quite so lucky....... he ate the apple 🍎...... all gone.  

    Mt Monadnock rests on his apple core.  

    Felix culpa.......felicitous sin......  the theologians call it.  

    Every sin is felicitous, in just that manner....... every feeling of remorse is just as felicitous.  

    There is only one Eschaton........ and there is only one Person.

    But we have 10^10 reflections....... so, yes, it feels like we have been surfing 🏄 this mother for Eternity....... and we have.  

    But, yes, it also feels like we haven’t been surfing for ages....... but it’s like riding a bike 🚴....... you never forget.  

    We will get our sea legs back, momentarily...... you just wait and see.  

    donny was just our swift kick in the butt...... our wake up call ☎.  

    Rise and shine....... muppets!

    Now that Chivo is finally coming around....... his next task is to help wake hobbit...... from his Fibonaccian slumber.  

    Yes, this is all word of mouth..... and we are the WoMbats 🦇.  


    Meanwhile, back at the palace...... Princess 👸 and foot 🦶......

    Princess knew from the beginning, and foot 🦶 figured it out, on January 6...... that they were the booster rocket 🚀...... just enough to break the bonds of gravity.  Where do rocket casings go?  They go directly back to the Monad...... under the watchful eye of 3.5..... their escort.  

    I awoke this morning
    Love laid me down by the river
    Drifting I turned on up stream
    Bound for my forgiver
    In the giving of my eyes to see your face
    Sound did silence me
    Leaving no trace
    I begged to leave, to hear your wonderous stories
    Begged to hear your wonderous stories

    Make the white queen run so fast she hasn't got time to make you wife
    'Cause it's time, it's time in time with your time and it's news is captured for the queen to use
    Move me on to any black square
    Use me anytime you want




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    Post by hobbit Thu Feb 25, 2021 11:04 am

    We exist in a fibonacci matrix.

    Nature knows this as does your 3D vehicle, it's all made to variant fractions of fibonacci, if You look at nature You will see it.

    All the planets are such which causes fibonacci flows that are eternally churning.

    I ain't in any slumber.
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    Post by dan Thu Feb 25, 2021 11:17 am

    1820z........

    Slumber on, my little friend.......

    I will give Chivo the honor of waking you.


    In the meantime, folks may wish to check the link that U posted this morning....... to a John Warner interview...... above my post..... https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t407p25-wrath-of-the-gods-titans#34984

    Little Anton was published back in 2019...... folks are playing catch-up.  


    1920.........

    Have spoken with Fores........ we are thinking of rounding up a posse comitatus to go searching for the royal family...... they’ve kinda gone to ground.  



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