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Where did all the Open Minds Forum members go?

Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:29 pm by Admin

With Open Minds Forum restored now for almost half a year at it's new location with forumotion.com we can now turn to look at reaching out to OMF's original members who have not yet returned home. OMF's original membership was over 6,000 members strong, prior to the proboards suspension, according to the rolls of the time. We can probably safely assume that some of those accounts were unidentified socks. If we were to assume a reasonable guess of maybe as many as 30% possible sock accounts then that would leave potentially somewhere between 4800 to 4900 possible real members to locate. That is still a substantial number of people.

Who were all these people? Some were average individuals with common interests in ufology, exopolitics, globalism, corruption, earthchanges, science and technology, and a variety of other interests. Some just enjoyed being part of a vibrant and unusually interesting community. Others were representative of various insider groups participating in observation and outreach projects, while still others were bonafide intelligence community personnel. All with stake in the hunt for truth in one fashion or another. Some in support of truth, and communication. Others seeking real disclosure and forms of proof. And others highly skeptical of anything or limited subjects. The smallest division of membership being wholly anti-disclosure oriented.

So where did these members vanish to? They had many options. There are almost innumerable other forums out there on the topics of UFO's or Exopolitics, the Unexplained, and Conspiracy Theory. Did they disappear into the world-wide network of forum inhabitants? Did some go find new homes on chatrooms or individual blogs? Did they participate in ufo conventions or other public events and gatherings? How about those who represented groups in special access? Or IC and military observers? Those with academic affiliations? Where did they all go and what would be the best way to reach out and extend an invitation to return?

And what constitutes a situation deserving of their time and participation? Is the archive enough? How exactly do people within the paradigm most desire to define a community? Is it amenities, humanity or simply population size for exposure? Most of the special guests have been emailed and have expressed that population size for exposure is what most motivates them. But not all. Long-time member Dan Smith has other priorities and values motivating his participation. Should this open opportunities for unattached junior guests who have experience and dialog to contribute to the world? How best to make use of OMF's time, experience and resources?

Many skeptics would like to see the historical guardian of discourse opportunity to just up and disappear; go into permanent stasis. They think that not everyone has a right to speak about their experiences and if there is no proof involved then there can philosophically be no value to discourse. I personally would respectfully disagree with them. Discourse has always been the prelude to meaningful relationships and meaningful mutual relationships have always been the prelude to exchanges of proof. In a contentious social environment with regards to communication vs disclosure how do we best re-establish a haven for those preludes? Is it only the "if we build it they will come" answer? Well considering OMF has been largely fully functional over the last four or five months this line of reasoning is not necessarily true. So what would be the best way re-establish this? Your suggestions are sought. Please comment.





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    Post by dan Tue Feb 02, 2021 5:02 am

    First topic message reminder :

    We really shouldn’t forget the old mnemonic postings....... https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t236p425-hello-cy-omf-ii-part-2  

    Here’s a partial glossary for the mnemonics....... https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t251p700-hello-cy-omf-ii-part-2 .... scroll down.....

    Don’t forget other topics pages.......  

    https://bestpossibleworld.com/index06.htm

    https://bestpossibleworld.com/aAquarium/content.html

    https://best-possible.fandom.com/wiki/Best_Possible_Wiki


    Here’s more mnemonics...... https://openmindsforum.forumotion.com/t236p425-hello-cy-omf-ii-part-2

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    Post by Foresaperire Tue Mar 09, 2021 11:00 pm

    Embody Truth and Love - pursue nothing
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    Post by hobbit Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:51 am

    Smelly El Chivo wrote:
    hobbit wrote:https://www.ancient-origins.net/news-history-archaeology/ancient-three-headed-serpent-column-delphi-rise-again-after-2500-years-020331

    The serpents twine together to empower 3D creation.

    It is in reality how consciousness compresses in a duality of spin to create so called atoms with individual fields with polarity and equator.

    The serpents enable life and retake life.

    hobbit

    Did someone say serpents?

    https://sacred-texts.com/ring/two/index.htm

    The ouroboros depicts the entanglement of consciousness spinning in opposite direction , then devouring itself into 3D.

    The geometry that is created at the ring compression and de compression location has a dominant cross feature at 90 degrees and is the reason for the cross and swastika emblems in multiple cultures.

    The omphalos stones are carved with patterns showing the entanglement.

    The reason for our ancestors considering a giant dragon at the centre of the earth is due to a comprehension of entanglement at all scale, once You can comprehend such You can see a galaxy in every grain of sand, it is simple but most humans are so engrossed with complexity that they are blinded to the simplisity.

    K.I.S.S.

    I did not seek out the flows of consciousness they found me and found an OPEN MIND, an empty head not filled with useless indoctrinations that are used to enslave humans.

    I sleep with the middle line of nine ( fifth) hitting the centre of My head with another centre line at ninety degrees hitting My heart.

    https://depositphotos.com/18986987/stock-photo-heart-of-jesus-christ.html


    The middle ring of the geometry ( the ring been near thirteen inch diameter) is across My heart.

    The ring is actually a polygon.


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    Post by dan Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:38 am

    1340z........

    hobbit...... wonderful, but the concern now is getting the bulk of us through the portal..... with minimal coercion or deceit.

    The original idea was going to be to rely on natural attrition, primarily through drastically reduced fertility (à là China 🇨🇳)..... over centuries.... the Millennium.  

    The feasibility analysis came back...... wanting.  

    So we’re going directly into the Rapture mode...... via portals.  

    The open feasibility study is incomplete....... all hands on deck.  

    This is where immaterialism comes under considerable strain.  

    Entire industries have been built up around the maintenance of our bodies....... there is a great deal of entanglement.  

    Going gently into the good 😌 night will be problematic.  

    This should be our best possible problem.  

    Thanatology may come into its own.  

    The idea of a glorified body is wonderful, but there is a transition problem.  

    That transition likely has some parallels with our transition from Omega to Alpha.  


    1500.........

    In some sense, there is no transition.  

    We’re going back through a time portal.

    A lot of entanglement is being disentangled.  

    The Earth is going back off the grid.  

    What about all the cities and bodies?  

    They live on in Eternity.  

    The Earth doesn’t go anywhere.  

    The Metanarrative has its final chapter.  This is the chapter we are writing now.  

    Every moment is a moment in Eternity.  

    Birth, death, rising, falling....... all are illusions of entanglement...... well, and so is living...... as an individual ego.  

    The contrast between entanglement and disentanglement are illusions of relativity.  

    Entanglement from the point of view of the Monad is virtually the opposite of what it is from the point of view of the ego.  

    It’s like looking through the ‘wrong’ end of a telescope 🔭.  Who’s to say what is right and wrong 😑?  

    Time is our essential illusion...... but tell that to the victim of a bombing.  

    Chivo has the idea, but it won’t prevent him from growing old. The aches and pains of age are hard to deny.



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    Post by hobbit Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:53 am

    The current agenda via the trojan horse called covid is multi layered, the infertility will be based on eugenics ( why do You think they have spent 37 billion here in the UK on test and trace???)

    The injections will also cause mass cancer due to the mrna alterations of the elderly.

    The test and trace will "help restart our lives" says the wanker boris.

    He is not kidding is He, but most won't realise what the GREAT ( death) RESET means , will they.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-56343912

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    Post by dan Wed Mar 10, 2021 9:32 am

    Well, hobbit, there is going to be a Great Reset....... the question is which one is the best possible.

    The Great Fallacy is that this is a cyclical occurrence. It’s not.

    The GR lives in Eternity...... so it can’t really be a reset.
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    Post by hobbit Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:05 am

    dan wrote:Well, hobbit, there is going to be a Great Reset....... the question is which one is the best possible.  

    The Great Fallacy is that this is a cyclical occurrence.  It’s not.  

    The GR lives in Eternity...... so it can’t really be a reset.  

    So We have to follow the piper off the cliff edge??????/

    Funny thing about hobbits....they are inclined to shove the piper over the cliff edge.

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    Post by dan Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:18 am

    1720z........

    Your only alternative is to go hug a tree....... for dear life.  

    We don’t go directly from Omega back to Alpha....... we go by way of the Monad/Abyss.  

    So, yes, it will not be unlike jumping off a cliff....... call it BASE jumping..... Chivo is an expert.

    It’s like a trust fall...... and, no, you don’t have to take my word for it.  

    How else do we break out of the illusion of time?

    An alternative is to shut down the electric grid...... the day the Earth stood still.  

    It would amount to about the same thing.  

    What happens to all our memories?  

    They don’t go anywhere.  Memories flow from the illusion of time..... into and out of that illusion.  

    I don’t believe in memories....... they are a, more or less, direct perception of the past.  


    1820..........

    We are not going back to the past........ we are simply revisiting it.  

    We are revisiting the present moment....... we just don’t remember the present.  This is our direct perception...... more or less filtered than our ‘memories’.

    The unfiltered present moment is also the view from Monadnock...... and it is not just a window....... it is full immersion...... in Eternity.  I guess it’s kinda intense...... I don’t remember it....... or it’s the only thing I can remember...... depending on one’s point of view.  


    2100.......

    We come here to get away from portals.  

    We can revel in our lack of portals....... in our total realism.  

    We are the portholes of the Monad onto the best possible virtual reality........ like a glass bottom boat gliding over a coral reef 🐠..... one where we get to talk to the fish.    

    And we still get to watch Tik Tok.  How cool is this?  



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    Post by U Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:58 pm

    Off topic but here's the follow up to the Little Anton posts from not too long ago. John Warner IV interview with Project Unity.

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    Post by dan Wed Mar 10, 2021 4:26 pm

    Thanks, U,

    I have to suppose that a lot of this is disinformation...... unbeknownst to John and most of the other principals.  

    It’s like a major effort went into deception, leading up to D-day.

    The main confusion is about big world v small world.  

    If you get that point wrong....... you will be thrown off the track..... in short order.

    Even John, racing car driver that he is, understands that there is a spiritual component.

    It’s just that a spiritual component will amount to a hill of beans, if we are dealing with a big world.

    It’s just that the small world concept is so radical that folks can’t get their heads around it.

    Does it really take a flotilla to run interference for a chick 🐥?

    Everyone expects the flotilla...... so you’d better float it out there, or folks would get suspicious.



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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Mar 10, 2021 4:51 pm

    Foresaperire wrote:Embody Truth and Love - pursue nothing

    Just act natural and go with the flow.

    It doesn’t matter what we think about what happens.

    Not one bit.

    And of course, HAVE FUN!
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Mar 10, 2021 4:54 pm

    I feel it is impossible to force someone through a portal.

    If that is the way, all of creation is useless and thinking is useless and I don’t care what happens.

    Hey, I don’t care what happens anyway Wink

    I can hope to be fat and happy for as long as possible.

    I can be an honest smelly goat.

    Honestly, people are exhausting and their stupidity is insurmountable by all but themselves.

    🐐💨
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:22 pm

    U wrote:Off topic but here's the follow up to the Little Anton posts from not too long ago. John Warner IV interview with Project Unity.


    Secret ape history is not that important.

    You should assume you don’t know the real story of good and evil.

    That you are a muppet.

    You won’t understand the world you appeared in.

    You certainly won’t see outside tha glass.

    Assume someone has a hand up your arse.

    Cause they do.

    No better or worse than the lies pushed to the polis.

    Every truth, spoken, is a lie.

    Every explanation is wrong.

    Theories are not provable.

    Most words have lost their connection to their original meaning, making them nonsense.

    How to live your life where you are, our only concern really.

    I think unity is the great evil.

    Unity is always a con.

    People speaking about unity are morons and liars.

    They don’t understand life AT ALL.

    I think any pursuit is quicksand.

    I have to say, my experience is this is a small world.

    You aren’t meant to dissolve, you are meant to blossom in the shit.

    That makes this a smelly green world.

    That makes it all my world.

    Mmmm 😋

    Get some.
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    Post by dan Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:46 pm

    Chivo,

    I believe that you should stop trying to impose your personal preferences on the rest of us.

    Who died and left you in charge?

    Many of us are naturally curious about the world.

    Behaving unnaturally will not be helpful.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:47 pm

    What Dan describes is the Yellow Submarine.

    Sorry Dan, the Beatles beat you to it.

    You apparently missed the 60s.
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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:47 pm

    Chick, I don’t believe.

    Just sharing the view.

    You are welcome to yours.

    We all got one.

    Life is uncensored.

    Not one is better or worse than the rest.

    Enjoy my smelly world.



    Sorry Dan, my head is in the clouds.

    I forgot you can’t handle the truth.

    Silly smelly 🐐

    You will have to tolerate me as Plato did Diogenes.

    You are not in charge.

    You do not know what is happening.

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    Post by U Thu Mar 11, 2021 5:36 am

    Smelly El Chivo wrote:
    U wrote:Off topic but here's the follow up to the Little Anton posts from not too long ago. John Warner IV interview with Project Unity.


    Secret ape history is not that important.

    You should assume you don’t know the real story of good and evil.

    That you are a muppet.

    You won’t understand the world you appeared in.

    You certainly won’t see outside tha glass.

    Assume someone has a hand up your arse.

    Cause they do.

    No better or worse than the lies pushed to the polis.

    Every truth, spoken, is a lie.

    Every explanation is wrong.

    Theories are not provable.

    Most words have lost their connection to their original meaning, making them nonsense.

    How to live your life where you are, our only concern really.

    I think unity is the great evil.

    Unity is always a con.

    People speaking about unity are morons and liars.

    They don’t understand life AT ALL.

    I think any pursuit is quicksand.

    I have to say, my experience is this is a small world.

    You aren’t meant to dissolve, you are meant to blossom in the shit.

    That makes this a smelly green world.

    That makes it all my world.

    Mmmm 😋

    Get some.

    I've made it abundantly clear who's hand is up my arse if said hand exists. Accept it or don't, it's an inconvenient truth, and indeed there is no truth. That reminds me though I have had an idea of creating a UFO Bloodsports channel where various personalities of the field can argue and scream at each other in a no holds barred fashion, reminiscent of the Richard Spencer vs Sargon of Akkad debate. We had a taste of it with CW Chanter vs Unirock on the Corey Goode scandal but I'd want more high profile characters instead. Maybe Ron vs AP could be my inaugural episode. I'd call it Project Divison. Wink
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    Post by dan Thu Mar 11, 2021 6:58 am

    U,

    Is it really true that there is no truth?  

    Why can’t there be the best possible amount of truth......?  Which there is.  

    If there were no truth, poor chicken little 🐥 would be out of a job.


    Chivo,

    Yes, Diogenes is the grandfather of Stoicism, which was as close as you could get to Christianity without the jguy.  

    I’m honored to be in competition with the Beatles over the ownership of the rabbit hole 🕳....... it’s just too bad that they didn’t have a better PR person...... they didn’t have a Diogenes.  
    ...........


    When it comes to creating worlds, portals are the very least of your problems.

    The problem is building the fences.  

    In fact, building the best possible fence is the 99% of difficulty of building the best possible world.  

    Portals are inevitable...... you just have to be very clever in hiding them.  

    So you use science and secret societies....... knowing full well that both of them are bogus...... distractors.  

    Nature is the result of hiding the fences in plain sight.  That is just a little bit clever.  

    Imagine that we have been kept very busy painting that magical Fence for millennia, and the more we paint 🎨 it, the further we get from the Truth........ until the little kid shows up, and wonders why the King is parading around naked.  

    The world is our best possible crib........ imagine that it has taken us this long to kick out the slats....... more accurately, it has taken us this long to figure out that there were slats to kick out........ yes, sports fans, in case of emergency 🚨....... just break the slats.  

    But you know how difficult it is to lead horses out of a burning 🔥 barn.  You have to blindfold them, first.  

    Yes, in this case, we have to be fitted with a new pair of spectacles 🤓....... it’s called the mother of all paradigm shifts (MoAPS).  

    And the horse is saying...... heck, no..... this is where all my food is.  

    So Chivo is right...... there is a sense in which we have to force the horse to leave the barn....... but I don’t think the SPCA will put up too much of a fight....... is Chivo the best they’ve got?  



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    Post by hobbit Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:51 am

    https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=7nXrqW%2Fh&id=4AF050617E3F44F609063E836546E0FB1003B861&thid=OIP.7nXrqW_hLvphopIgNEkRUgHaJ4&mediaurl=https%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2Fd%2Fdb%2FAbernethy_mercat_cross%252C_Perth_and_Kinross.JPG%2F1200px-Abernethy_mercat_cross%252C_Perth_and_Kinross.JPG&exph=1600&expw=1200&q=market+crosses&simid=608043331222439887&ck=04437F23A93735925DCD017EA1F8D997&selectedindex=1&form=IRPRST&ajaxhist=0&pivotparams=insightsToken%3Dccid_l4zJTkid*cp_3CCAAB836168EA85F53571D7AB43A75E*mid_055B3C508EA2F7A1058EEE748056BF7533004263*simid_608052621180274470*thid_OIP.l4zJTkidIw4dhXJmqLHmrAHaE8&vt=0&sim=11&iss=VSI&ajaxhist=0

    Most villages here in the shires have one or more of the market crosses, or preachers cross.
    i went through a phase of hunting them down and recording the geometries involved with them.

    I came upon one leaning at an angle, and with dowsing rods in hand and a ship[s compass around My neck I went around them noting the angles of leylines crossing that point.
    As this one was leaning I had to lean over it Myself thus My head went direct over the central point of where the stone should have been.
    I had one of My strange encounters with what I saw there.

    You cannot stand where a large stone is sited ( blocking off the portal location)

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    Post by dan Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:06 am

    Chivo,

    Me thinks the hobbit has a case of loose lips.  

    What are we going to do, Kemosabe?
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    Post by hobbit Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:31 am

    dan wrote:Chivo,

    Me thinks the hobbit has a case of loose lips.  

    What are we going to do, Kemosabe?




    Your not sending in Tonto to scalp Me are You ?

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    Post by dan Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:43 am

    The question is........ which of us is Tonto, and which is Kemosabe?  

    Chivo pretends to be Tonto, but he’s actually working for Kemosabe.

    The quote is....... what do you mean ‘we’, Kemosabe?

    Those market crosses were not very well disguised 🥸...... except for the fact that they did manage to plug the portal.



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    Post by hobbit Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:56 am

    dan wrote:The question is........ which of us is Tonto, and which is Kemosabe?  

    Chivo pretends to be Tonto, but he’s actually working for Kemosabe.

    The quote is....... what do you mean ‘we’, Kemosabe?  

    Oh what a tangled web WE weave when first we practise to deceive.

    Spiders are good at weaving webs.
    All made of straight lines to capture their prey.


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    Post by hobbit Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:05 am

    https://www.bing.com/search?q=churchyard+crosses&cvid=534aad16cc464c79a538917a9a01214c&aqs=edge.0.0l3.15829j0j4&FORM=ANAB01&PC=U531

    Many churchyards have these also, especially in the southern part of the churchyard.

    But little hobbits hop all around the churchyards to locate the other locations( usually six)
    Then the reason there are NO drawings of the church layouts is obvious.

    Cathedrals have multiple such locations.

    I live near a St Marys at 86 degrees along the aisle.

    It's all in plain site if You know how to observe.

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    Post by Post Eschaton Punk Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:59 am

    So listen, I don’t have a problem with life being a kind of sham.

    I am just like looking at it all going, uh huh.

    This is what it is.

    Within the sham is a gift.

    I laugh at all authority, as if they had any clue.

    I brushed the wings of secret societies.

    Nah, not interested.

    I’d have never joined a secret group.

    I even tried a cult, not my thang.

    I’m sure Dan must be a member of a few secret groups.

    He is too curious not to.

    My great fun is I beat them all to this.

    When I asked the world who I was, all it showed me was a goat living in a barrel with Diogenes.

    That’s my life.

    But it’s fairly comfortable really.

    I enjoy my warm hearth looking out of my porthole on this virtual world.

    One learns not to take themselves or life too seriously.

    Magick has been used for millennia.

    The sorcerers have all the fun.

    Charming snakes 🐍 though, that’s a high art.

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    Post by hobbit Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:08 am

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loose_lips_sink_ships

    So smelly one, do You think I am about to sink a ship?

    I do hope that You have no intention of scalping Me ???? as hairs are antennae, hence it is better for hairy hobbits to act as receivers and transmitters of unseen information's.


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